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canadafollower posted an update in the group
The Humaniversity 2 months ago
I remember when I did groups in Pune in 1988 to 1990, we were always reminded by our group leaders to do Dynamic at 7AM, Kundalini at 5:15PM and go to discourse (video discourse if Osho was not well) at 7PM every day of the group. In other words, Osho’s meditations were always important even while doing a group. Therapy never replaced…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 2 months, 3 weeks ago
In reply to: Parmartha posted an update in the group The Humaniversity These humaniversity groups are basically a minority interets. My observation is that they seem to appeal to people who have self-importance and bullying […] ViewWhat I have seen is that yes generally in the Americas (North and South), it does not seem that Humaniversity groups have been too popular. The only place in the Americas where Aum Meditation has been going on a regular basis since 1988 and has maintained popularity is Montreal. Check out the Humaniversity.nl website to see where Aum Meditations…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted an update in the group
Has anyone seen this group advertised at the Humaniversity: Chandrika’s Mama and Papa group? See this link.
http://www.aummeditation.se/mama-papa.html
Is it possible that this group encourages perpetual therapy by group leaders acting acting as surrogate parents where participants have to always come back for more instead of guiding…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 3 months, 2 weeks ago
In reply to: Parmartha posted an update in the group The Humaniversity These humaniversity groups are basically a minority interets. My observation is that they seem to appeal to people who have self-importance and bullying […] ViewWould you happen to know what percentage of sannyasins are involved in Humaniversity activities? My idea is that people who have self-importance and bullying tendencies probably get to make it to the top and run the Humaniversity but others also participate in Humaniversity activities because they believe wrongly or rightly that these activities…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 4 months, 4 weeks ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity Answer to JCP’s question Dec 18, 2011 (I have a difficult time typing in a narrow column): I was disappointed when this friend of mine left the […] ViewThough I was disappointed that my friend left the sannyas scene perhaps he was right when he said that it no use saying anything because nobody listened,
Another thing too, a lot people like the Aum Meditation (including me) because it brought people close together in interaction which is rarely experienced elsewhere. I liked the namaste part.…[Read more] -
canadafollower posted a new activity comment 4 months, 4 weeks ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity Answer to JCP’s question Dec 18, 2011 (I have a difficult time typing in a narrow column): I was disappointed when this friend of mine left the […] ViewI think that this why a even rebellious sannyasin finds that it is no use to deal with these people anymore and will go somewhere else.
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 4 months, 4 weeks ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity Answer to JCP’s question Dec 18, 2011 (I have a difficult time typing in a narrow column): I was disappointed when this friend of mine left the […] ViewIt is not only Humaniversity leaders who have deaf ears which is understandable. It is also Humaniversity participants who have deaf ears which I do not find understandable. Some of this criticism aimed at group leaders might be beneficial knowledge to them. In spite of that often I have experienced intense anger from them. Some people seem to be…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 4 months, 4 weeks ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity Answer to JCP’s question Dec 18, 2011 (I have a difficult time typing in a narrow column): I was disappointed when this friend of mine left the […] ViewIt happened during the late 80s
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canadafollower posted an update in the group
Correction to sentence of last post:Though he had many criticisms of what went on, to the best of my belief, he never said anything afterwards which would be confrontational to the sannyasin therapists or higher ups.
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canadafollower posted an update in the group
Answer to JCP’s question Dec 18, 2011 (I have a difficult time typing in a narrow column):
I was disappointed when this friend of mine left the sannyasin community after a brief confrontation with the Aum Meditation leader over the Porno Dancing stage (although he made a few rare appearances at .sannyasin events and he kept in contact with his…[Read more] -
canadafollower posted an update in the group
I like to stress that I am not invalidating the positive experiences of some of those who went to the Humaniversity. More power to you. I am just addressing issues about casualties some people have suffered at the Humaniversity.
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 5 months, 1 week ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity My Question of the Day: Why do sannyasins often experience extreme hostility and anger from other non therapist sannyasins when they mention the […] Viewmaybe in the past, I felt vengeful and wanted to destroy therapists’ careers but today I am beyond that.
I would like to see dialogue between Veeresh, Chandrika et al and those who felt that they got negative experiences from the Humaniversity. When I hear that they ban people who criticize them or attempt to shut down blogs and websites that…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 5 months, 1 week ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity For a person to make a decision to go to the Humaniversity or not, one should be armed with as much information as possible from both positive and […] ViewI guess that many ”first generation” sannysins had gurus like ”Fritz Perls” and Osho was only secondary.
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 5 months, 1 week ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity My Question of the Day: Why do sannyasins often experience extreme hostility and anger from other non therapist sannyasins when they mention the […] ViewNo not all sannyasins react in this way. I had a few bad experiences with therapy groups but I discovered that it was wrong to invalidate the positive experiences that others experienced as much as it was wrong for others to invalidate my experiences. That is where things are confusing. Nothing is black and white. Some psychologists call this…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted an update in the group
My Question of the Day:
Why do sannyasins often experience extreme hostility and anger from other non therapist sannyasins when they mention the least bit perceived shortcoming of a sannyasin therapist even if they have made also some positive comments about this sannyasin therapist? In other words, why are positive comments are extremely welcome…[Read more]
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What an odd question. You talk about sannyasins as if they all react in this way. I’m sure there’s some that do but not all.
I have a suspicion this is all a bit hypothetical, when was the last time you actually had a conversation like this with a sannyasin and got this response?
I see your saying, if the negative gets mentioned, then…[Read more]
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No not all sannyasins react in this way. I had a few bad experiences with therapy groups but I discovered that it was wrong to invalidate the positive experiences that others experienced as much as it was wrong for others to invalidate my experiences. That is where things are confusing. Nothing is black and white. Some psychologists call this…[Read more]
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’We should not be angry at what others experience but develop instead a curiosity of where the person is coming from.’
I couldn’t agree more, then there is a chance of fruitful dialogue, and a possibility for both side to see new perspectives.
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maybe in the past, I felt vengeful and wanted to destroy therapists’ careers but today I am beyond that.
I would like to see dialogue between Veeresh, Chandrika et al and those who felt that they got negative experiences from the Humaniversity. When I hear that they ban people who criticize them or attempt to shut down blogs and websites that…[Read more]
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My impression is that many sannyasins were on the make in one way or another. So if Canada criticises snake oil therapist 1, he may criticise snake oil therapist 2 and 3 etc. Peoples livelihoods are at stake, remember, so they get defensive.
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 5 months, 1 week ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity For a person to make a decision to go to the Humaniversity or not, one should be armed with as much information as possible from both positive and […] ViewWhat do you mean by first and second generation sannyasins? I take it that you mean that first generation sannyasins are those who were attracted by Osho in the beginning but somehow got sidetracked by adulating guru minded sannyasin therapists. My guess is that a second generation sannyasin will assess a sannyasin therapist by his or her merit…[Read more]
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 5 months, 2 weeks ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity Here is another website that talks about the Humaniversity and Veeresh. Whether or not this site is truthful or slanderous or a bit of both will be […] ViewI did aum meditations and a few other Humaniversity things about 20 years ago though not at the Humaniversity in Holland
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canadafollower posted a new activity comment 5 months, 2 weeks ago
In reply to: canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity Here is another website that talks about the Humaniversity and Veeresh. Whether or not this site is truthful or slanderous or a bit of both will be […] ViewI personally know very little about Sarlo. I only posted the website address on the Humaniversity group because it talks a little bit about Veeresh and the Humaniversity (which would be of interest to people in that group) as well as Sarlo.
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canadafollower posted an update in the group
Various You Tube videos of the Humaniversity and specifically Veeresh: there are both negative and positive comments posted to these videos which are interesting
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canadafollower posted an update in the group
Here is another website that talks about the Humaniversity and Veeresh. Whether or not this site is truthful or slanderous or a bit of both will be left up to the reader to decide:
http://sarlo-guru-ratings-service.blogspot.com/2009/06/hidden-agenda-of-sarlos-guru-rating.html
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Sarlo is a good egg. He runs living Osho the way Pramartha and Dhanam run Sannyas news. He leans over back wards to avoid being dictatorial. He doesn’t join in at Living Osho as much as Pramartha does here, in the sense of contributions.
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I personally know very little about Sarlo. I only posted the website address on the Humaniversity group because it talks a little bit about Veeresh and the Humaniversity (which would be of interest to people in that group) as well as Sarlo.
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Whats your personal background, personal connection, story to humaniversity?
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I did aum meditations and a few other Humaniversity things about 20 years ago though not at the Humaniversity in Holland
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I did an Aum Marathon during the seventies in London. When it was over I went and bought a packet of cigarettes for the first time in my life. That is about my clearest memory from that time.
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Jai Bhagwan.
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When exactly did all this happen?
It happened during the late 80s
Canada wrote “On the other hand however, I think that he felt that it was no use to say anything because it would only fall on deaf ears. Nobody seemed to care. ”
It is also my experience that the Humaniversity people have deaf ears, do not seem to care about criticisms. It appears that the bottom line is sadly getting enough people to pay…[Read more]
It is not only Humaniversity leaders who have deaf ears which is understandable. It is also Humaniversity participants who have deaf ears which I do not find understandable. Some of this criticism aimed at group leaders might be beneficial knowledge to them. In spite of that often I have experienced intense anger from them. Some people seem to be…[Read more]
I think that this why a even rebellious sannyasin finds that it is no use to deal with these people anymore and will go somewhere else.
Canada wrote :” It is also Humaniversity participants who have deaf ears which I do not find understandable. Some of this criticism aimed at group leaders might be beneficial knowledge to them.”
Who knows. As Jay says maybe they are not too bright, so cannot deal with having their beliefs challenged.
Though I was disappointed that my friend left the sannyas scene perhaps he was right when he said that it no use saying anything because nobody listened,
Another thing too, a lot people like the Aum Meditation (including me) because it brought people close together in interaction which is rarely experienced elsewhere. I liked the namaste part.…[Read more]