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maybe in the past, I felt vengeful and wanted to destroy therapists’ careers but today I am beyond that.

I would like to see dialogue between Veeresh, Chandrika et al and those who felt that they got negative experiences from the Humaniversity. When I hear that they ban people who criticize them or attempt to shut down blogs and websites that…[Read more]

I guess that many ”first generation” sannysins had gurus like ”Fritz Perls” and Osho was only secondary.

No not all sannyasins react in this way. I had a few bad experiences with therapy groups but I discovered that it was wrong to invalidate the positive experiences that others experienced as much as it was wrong for others to invalidate my experiences. That is where things are confusing. Nothing is black and white. Some psychologists call this…[Read more]

What do you mean by first and second generation sannyasins? I take it that you mean that first generation sannyasins are those who were attracted by Osho in the beginning but somehow got sidetracked by adulating guru minded sannyasin therapists. My guess is that a second generation sannyasin will assess a sannyasin therapist by his or her merit…[Read more]

I did aum meditations and a few other Humaniversity things about 20 years ago though not at the Humaniversity in Holland

I personally know very little about Sarlo. I only posted the website address on the Humaniversity group because it talks a little bit about Veeresh and the Humaniversity (which would be of interest to people in that group) as well as Sarlo.

I would like to add that that the Brazilian sannyasin who wrote that webpage wanted sincerely to suggest improvements to the Humaniversity. If Veeresh, Chandrika et al dropped their egos and listened to what this fellow said, perhaps the Humaniversity would be a fantastic place today for personal growth.

What I find most apalling is how Veeresh, Chandrika, and other people responded the website published by the Brazilian sannyasin and the Humaniversity Friends Yahoogroup.

Instead of Veeresh, Chandrika et al responding to questions and concerns of people on these 2 websites, they chose to banish the Brazilian sannyasin and they contacted the Yahoo…[Read more]

I agree with your assessment of the Rick Ross site. A lot of anti-cult organizations such as Rick Ross are financed by mainstream churches such as the Anglican Church when mainstream churches themselves have been in the business for hundreds of years of brainwashing and manipulating their flock. Hence these mainstream churches are not against…[Read more]

Somehow a lot of sannyasins have misinterpreted Osho’s work in having the idea that sannyas is freedom and it means that they can do what ever they want including stepping on other people’s toes. Freedom to them means, for example, using false therapy to rip people off. A sannyasin cannot make an honest living so he invents some gobbly gook as…[Read more]

The thing that bothers me the most of about websites like http://www.rickross.com is that they have a huge list of religions considered to be cults and yet mainstream Christian churches, for example, do not appear on the list when they are often the biggest violators of brainwashing, blind following etc. This is bigotry. If what you say is true then I…[Read more]

Another thought: The positive thing about big events such as the Leela fundraising event is that there is a lot of strong energy and at these events one tends to run into sanyasins whom you have not seen for a long time. The nice thing about this is that a lot of sannyasins who can not go regularly to events because they are busy with work etc.…[Read more]

You thought that this event was fun from what you wrote in the past. You just did not like what they did to L.

Often there are events like this that have sannyasins with open hearts and the leaders of the event take advantage of these open hearts to do ugly things like selling fake certificates and ripping off L. I have experienced similar…[Read more]

Now we suspect that he is making money off gullible sannyasins

What happened at the ranch does not surprise me when I see type of sannyasins that I see today. Are you talking about narcissism? I think though that there are sannyasins out who understand Osho’s work but choose to be alone rather than be part of the me-ist or self-ist sannyasin community.

It is incredible how people can get away with murder when it comes to vulnerable such as L-it is incredible how people can lack empathy for other people’s pain and suffering just to make money and fill their pockets