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canadafollower posted an update in the group The Humaniversity 12 years, 4 months ago
Answer to JCP’s question Dec 18, 2011 (I have a difficult time typing in a narrow column):
I was disappointed when this friend of mine left the sannyasin community after a brief confrontation with the Aum Meditation leader over the Porno Dancing stage (although he made a few rare appearances at .sannyasin events and he kept in contact with his close sannyasin friends) Though he had many criticisms of what went on, to the best of my belief, he never said anything confrontation to the sannyasin therapists or other higher ups. I agree with you that he looked like a cop out though I really liked him as a friend. On the other hand however, I think that he felt that it was no use to say anything because it would only fall on deaf ears. Nobody seemed to care. Our sannyasin community was full of dummies it seemed. He encouraged me not to speak out because he felt it was useless. I myself left the sannyas for a short time but came back because I knew that there were some people who were like gems hidden in all that dirt.
Canada wrote ”On the other hand however, I think that he felt that it was no use to say anything because it would only fall on deaf ears. Nobody seemed to care. ”
It is also my experience that the Humaniversity people have deaf ears, do not seem to care about criticisms. It appears that the bottom line is sadly getting enough people to pay money for their ”therapy.” That is what they care about.
It is not only Humaniversity leaders who have deaf ears which is understandable. It is also Humaniversity participants who have deaf ears which I do not find understandable. Some of this criticism aimed at group leaders might be beneficial knowledge to them. In spite of that often I have experienced intense anger from them. Some people seem to be hell-bent to worship these therapists at the Humaniversity no matter what.
I think that this why a even rebellious sannyasin finds that it is no use to deal with these people anymore and will go somewhere else.
Canada wrote :” It is also Humaniversity participants who have deaf ears which I do not find understandable. Some of this criticism aimed at group leaders might be beneficial knowledge to them.”
Who knows. As Jay says maybe they are not too bright, so cannot deal with having their beliefs challenged.
Though I was disappointed that my friend left the sannyas scene perhaps he was right when he said that it no use saying anything because nobody listened,
Another thing too, a lot people like the Aum Meditation (including me) because it brought people close together in interaction which is rarely experienced elsewhere. I liked the namaste part. However one has to realize that along with the beautiful things there are extremely ugly things such as the Porno Dancing (which is to me nothing but a lure to attract people who only want sex). The good and the bad causes confusion because people think that there are no shades of grey. Everything is either black or white.
However as much as there are good parts of the Aum Meditation, the Aum Meditation is still problematic because of people catharting in each other people’s faces, the Porno Dancing, no follow up session afterwards etc.
It happened during the late 80s