Osho returns to India from America.
This video appearing on a Russian website at the moment.
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It says, “Video is not available.”
Just clicked at the link, “Video is perfectly ok.”
Who knows it is a country-to-country transmission policy?
It is still available here in the UK. I just checked. You have to wait what seems like an age before anything comes up.
Maybe someone who reads SN and knows about computers can offer a response as to why it does not seem to be available in India – for Kavita? She is one person who might recognise some of the old sannyasins at the airport!
On youtube, someone asks who is the woman sitting at the table giving answers. It is Ma Prem Hasya, American, recently deceased. At that time, termed Osho’s Secretary.
SN, the video is not available in Germany too….
Kavita,
I have uploaded the video to youtube for you:
https://youtu.be/5i1kZzc2_dA
Wait a while. Might still be processing.
Thank you, SN, Arpana & SL; yes, now I can watch on youtube
These are few sannysasins I have met personally:
3.1 mins: it’s Swami Suraj Prakash (‘Summila’). Osho stayed in his house in Bombay, he is no more).
3.29 mins: Swami Yoga Chinmaya.
3.54 mins: Sohan Ma (& her husband, Bafnaji. I have not met him, only seen him in the commune, both are no more). They were Osho’s host in Poona before he started the commune in Poona.
4.43 mins: Swami Shantam Prem.
Parmartha, isn’t that lady sitting on the left to Osho very magnetic?!!
Yes, Kavita, very true. But was hoping you might know who she is? Maybe ask one of your old friends?
It looks like she is the wife of the guy who does not look like he likes Hasya very much, pictured a few minutes before the beginning of where Osho speaks in Delhi.
Parmartha, I somehow think she is an Osho fan (not a sannyasin since she is not in robes), or maybe the Hotel Housekeeping Chief, or some sort of a bureaucrat. Actually, Osho looks at this lady after he sits down for the interview, seems he is also seeing her for the first time.
This morning I have shared the video with many sannyasins. One of them, Ma Bhagwati of Delhi (who happened to arrange for the videography to be made on Ma Laxmi’s request, she residing in Poona, opp. our building, since many years) is also in the video. She appears at 3.39 mins. When I asked her she also said she doesn’t know who this lady is .
Parmartha,I am so delighted to let you know that mysterious lady is Mrs Indu Jain.
http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5398
I had invited Pragya Ma today and when we got onto discussing the video she said she had seen only few minutes of it, but in those days Indu Jain was very supportive of Osho & her family happens to be owners of the Times of India.
After Pragya Ma left I checked the internet & found this: http://www.boldsky.com/insync/life/2011/indu-jain-indian-women-entrepreneur-100811.html
Thanks very much for your efforts, Kavita.
Like you, I think, I liked the vibe of this woman, who seemed not to be a sannyasin. I also agree that Osho seemed surprised to see her sitting there! In so far as he ever seemed surprised.
Thanx to Pragya ma too.
What went on at the Ranch and the Stanford experiment.
Just a thought.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Stanford_prison_experiment
Interesting, Arps, although I see in the critical remarks it notes:
“Cannot be applied to female prisons, since only males participated in the subject. Therefore results may vary depending on gender, so it should not be associated with women.”
Which cuts out at least half of the Ranch population!
@ satyadeva
Similar behaviour goes on in women’s prisons, amongst inmates, and in the prison population as a whole apparently.
Arpana, are you saying that Osho’s imprisonement could have been an experiment of some sort?
Yes, Arpana,
Very understandable, your association, not only concerning so-called former ´Ranch-times´ in the Sannyas Sphere.
There have been quite some educated people on the Ranch, being aware of it by their various psychological and socio-psychological studies BEFORE the experiment to instal such a commune in the Oregonian Desert started.
And the pain to acknowledge and to have to become aware how difficult it was/is, if not partially impossible it then turned out, to resist a mechanically collective smog and draft; this pain is indescribable.
Yet resistance was and is happening, to not get drowned in collective cruel madness.
I only discovered by reading at this website, long before I joined it actively, to what extent some of my nightmares there have been correct views (here presented as facts), and I also know by own experience that resistance to not get drowned in unconsciousness have been (and are) happening – also on the former Ranch.
Had its costs.
It always has.
Up to nowadays.
And I can also confirm by own experience, Arpana, that you are right, telling Satyadeva that female cruelty under such circumstances and in unawareness, is as much happening as with male experimental ‘inmates’.
If not more so, when they are given the possibility to execute cruelty also amongst their female sisters.
It’s after all a very everyday possible experience up to nowadays. Nowadays, where the hiding under ´anonymous´identity´, while showing up with an amount of indifference (camouflaged as humour or cruelty, or even ´murder of honour´, executed on isolated women´- camouflaged partially as ´investigative actions´ – was and is happening.
In the Rose-no Rose-but-Rose Garden of the Master as elsewhere and as at any other time. And also as in any other cults, in the some so called western Buddhists’ sections as well.
Not to speak of the self-righteousness in some Christian cults and not at all to forget Islamist happenings these days!
What else can we do but to stay focused on ´Awareness´, as to our best capacity?
And what else can we do but to stay focused to manage the ´dance´ of balancing everyday anew?
And what else can we do (or undo), to not go robot-like into actions of inconceivable cruelty? Hiding behind a peer and cheer group or whatever and mostly anonymous too nowadays.
Its raining outside this morning.
Nature waited long for the rain, needed here at least.
Yesterday was a day of very strong winds.
In the evening I visited a literature as a film school festival here.
And what else can we do as to also participate in cultural happenings, staying open as to our best capacity to how other sentient beings describe in Art works what they are going through?
The art of communication though in these precarious times in public
often unfortunately deteriorating into obnoxious (hidden) and sometimes also very mean kind of ´Encounter-GAMES´ besides the strongly presented heavy subjects and topics.
That´s very exhausting – for me a least.
Morning prayer from a Munich rainy November day to all of you, wherever you may really stay/stand/ move in the moment.
And may we all have a good day!
Madhu
“The art of communication though in these precarious times in public
often unfortunately deteriorating into obnoxious (hidden) and sometimes also very mean kind of ´Encounter-GAMES´ besides the strongly presented heavy subjects and topics.
That´s very exhausting – for me a least.”
Then why not avoid watching or listening to or reading such outpourings, Madhu? Or are you some sort of slave to the media? (If so, you’re in good company – about 5,000 million or so!).
@ Kavita.
No, Kavita.
I made a connection that the behaviour of some people in those times was similar to what happened during the Stanford experiment.
Oh well, sometimes the context gets mixed up!
Another thought:
Easy to forget, we wore uniforms at the time. We were a generation whose parents fought in the second world war, assisted in the second world war.
Our collective and individual psychology must have had so much going on about power and authority, and hierarchy, and conservative organisations, because of the connections of parents and grandparents, and teachers, and uniforms and military organisations of one branch or other.
I’m re-uploading the video on youtube. It should be available in one hour at least: https://youtu.be/yU_fjmc6Ziw
I’m not so sure about it but I hope Kavita will be able to see it from India.
There is confusion over whether the opening scenes of this most welcome video, are in Delhi or Mumbei. It is Delhi.
Osho returned there in November, 1985 and then went to Kulu Manali (where, incidentally, he first started Sannyas (in 1970) to recuperate from the last months in America.
After Osho’s world tour, undertaken in the first six months or so of 1986, he returned to India, to Mumbei, from Portugal, in July, 1986.
I think it’s clear it’s Delhi International Airport; maybe Shantam can throw more light as he was present there. I saw the video again, seems Shantam’s turban is very visible in the opening scene!
Unfortunately the video in question is no longer viewable on YouTube. Hopefully someone will put it up at some point again (possibly Oshoworld as part of their video collection as they have lots of footage which they are gradually uploading).
The press interview that Osho gave on that morning in Delhi, after having just a few hours sleep after arriving ]back in India at night from the US, is available to listen to freely as an mp3 on the Oshoworld site – however ], the site is currently down due to maintenance. Meanwhile, until the video is available again, here’s a shot of Osho with Ms. Indu Jain, who sat next to him meditating with him during that press conference:
Parmartha, would you mind to share what it is that is for you most welcome in and/or with this vid´?
As far as the discussion goes on here about who is who and to what accurate minute in 30 year-old streaming, going further then with pics and mumbling whose ashes were/are where to go, I can´t believe it that humans are discussing here, who have some presence in the now, or in meditation.
And maybe my tone is sharp as I am quite captured by the Paris terror attack yesterday evening, quite some 120 people killed just like nothing and for nothing, and hundreds wounded for nothing, and such a great wound in the collective soul as in every sentient being.
Madhu
Madhu, first of all, I am sorry but I also need to tell you, news is the last thing in my laundry list except for sannyasnews, which to me is not actually a news-news website, probably in a sense it’s used commonly. I guess we all have our own interpretations of all our inner & outer matters.
When I saw this video the morning before I felt as though I was present there at that moment; there was a time when I had tears when I saw Osho describing his pain. I did stay with that for a while, later I felt to share the video with my friends who I thought would be interested, so I shared the link through their email. Then I watched the first 7.25 mins again to share here, the who is who I have come across personally.
Later in the evening when I read Parmartha’s post I called Bhagwati Ma who I thought could possibly know about that mysterious lady & she gave the other details so I shared that too – but frankly, that was all for fun.
Just to let you know when the German Bakery attack happened in 2010 I was very much few metres away from it, so it’s not that I am not aware of the sensitivity of such happenings.
I quite agree with Satyadeva’s response: ‘Islamophobia and Nostramdamus’ thread, 14 November, 2015. at 12:55 pm.
Kavita, I had tears in my eyes nearly all the video. Just remembering…I have lost something irreplaceable in my life.
Sorry, Madhu, but SN is doing its job very well, thank you very much!
Yes, dear, we all have.
http://soletstalkabout.com/post/133204737720/pray-for-parisprivately
“The only people who see the whole picture,” he murmured, “are the ones who step out of the frame.”
Salman Rushdie, ‘The Ground Beneath Her Feet’
Like to quote that amongst many other ´possibilities, for you, Arpana (and me too, sure…so you don´t need to repeat it).
Madhu, Parmartha quite often digs in the past, the way Shantam always stirs the political mind of here ‘n’ now of sannyas disguised as Meditator. So if it is boring, people like you can contribute something else.
I will be glad to read some piece written by you or Satyadeva. From Arpana I cann´t expect. Lokesh and Simond have given good stuff.
Simple fact is whether to accept what is given on the plate or cook something different.
But this moaning!
It just touched me, Madhu. That’s all. I wasn’t there at Delhi that night, but the video, at least for me, made me feel like I was. Not the Hasya nonsense, or even Osho speaking.
It was the sangha gathering quietly and reverentially at the airport…and so many who felt to be there who had already seen through the discrediting of their Master.
It may interest readers that (which I have only just learned this afternoon) Laxmi commissioned this video!
Parmartha, my feeling is exactly the same. I am not touched by Hasya or even Osho repeating his defence, the joy is to see the disciples’ euphoria, their longing, their trust.
It is the biggest calamity in any spiritual path when books become more important than the human resources.
Master without disciples, or without disciple-disciple communication – every spritual movement loses its charm and grace.
Sannyas has become one such cold storage, where disciples are the cash crops.
Some footage of Osho`s arrest and incarceration in this video:
https://youtu.be/Zx1Mr3c55io
Replying to my previous comment here in 2015, which included a link to some rare footage of Osho in jail, another video which has also been pulled down.
Unfortunate, as that was a rare piece of footage, as I remember the video of Osho sitting very still in his cell and an American television crew commentating that “apparently he doesn’t move around that much.“
Anyway, here’s another video, different but still with a little footage of Osho’s Nightline interview with Ted Koppel in Mecklenberg County Jail:
https://youtu.be/UBzp3RiXj7s
I have not yet found the entire footage of that interview which Osho insisted on giving when he was in jail.
But I have found yet another compilation of rare footage of the end of the Ranch and Osho’s jail time, this one has Osho coming into the Nightline interview with namaste at 2.30 minutes: https://youtu.be/0sUm0J-eq1I
(MOD: This is a reply to Parmartha’s post of November 14, 2015, 1.23pm)
Indeed, as Parmartha states here, he did fly straight up to Kulu Manali after arriving in Delhi and giving this interview. There, up in the mountains, Osho rested and gave other press interviews which are collected in the book ‘Light On The Path’.
There had been plans for a new commune up in Manali but this never materialised. Osho ended up travelling up to Kathmandu in Nepal where he continued giving his talks and press interviews.
In Nepal, he spoke of buying an island in the Pacific that Marlon Brando was trying to sell, the connection presumably came through Hasya who knew Brando personally through her collaboration with her ex-husband Albert S. Ruddy in the production of ‘The Godfather’ movie.
I wonder why that deal with the island never materialised.
Osho spoke about the possibility of building a new commune on that place , an atoll, which was actually a group of twelve small islands in the South Pacific, that could be expanded with the use of houseboats and floating gardens.
“In my conception we can, for the first time, manage anarchism and communism both together. Just remove currency within the commune, and without any enforcement, without forcing people to be equal, we have brought a classless society. They will remain unequal; they will remain unique; they will remain themselves. And the commune’s function is to fulfill their needs. Their needs are different: somebody who plays on a flute needs a flute, and somebody who wants to play on a guitar needs a guitar.
In every dimension people should remain themselves, but the dignity of humanity will be equal because they have equal opportunity – and no government, because government is not needed.
There can be only a functional organization, just like the post office. Nobody knows who is the head postmaster of India – there is no need and the post office is working perfectly well. It is a functional organization. The railways – now, who knows who is the chief of the board of the railways? It is a functional organization. So we can have functional organizations without having any government.
There will be no need for any visas for anybody to come for as long as he wants to stay; there will be no need for any passport. At least we can create one place in the world where no nationality is recognized, no religion is recognized, no political boundaries are recognized. And perhaps that may give the idea to other people, that it is possible – and these are the same human beings, they have come from us. Just an absolutely clear-cut model is needed.
So there is no need to be worried. It is only a question of a few weeks..And soon we will have our own place, and I will call all my people to start working. And we can absorb as many people as we want, because we are not thinking of making houses, we are thinking of making houseboats. Then the ocean is unlimited; then there is no problem about it. Why bother about land? Just a small piece of land will be enough for the functional things – the hotel, the airport. Otherwise we can go on spreading on the ocean…
Man has not tried to live…otherwise water can be a far more beautiful place to live. Freedom to move – otherwise you become attached to the house, to the land. And I know of methods in Japan: they float gardens on the water. They mix straw with earth and float it, and then you can put any seeds on it; you can have roses and you can have all kinds of flowers. Japan has tried floating gardens for thousands of years; it is a perfect science.”
Osho: ‘Light On The Path‘, Chapter 3: ‘Now my commune exists all over the world‘.
27 December 1985 pm, in Kathmandu, Nepal.
Osho stated that ‘for the first time we can manage anarchism and communism together’ – although in fact in 1929, anarcho-communism had been achieved in Korea by the Korean Anarchist Federation in Manchuria (KAFM) and the Korean Anarcho-Communist Federation (KACF), with help from anarchist general and independence activist Kim Chwa-chin, which lasted until 1931, when Imperial Japan assassinated Kim and invaded from the south, while the Chinese Nationalists invaded from the north, resulting in the creation of Manchukuo, a puppet state of the Empire of Japan.
Also during the Spanish Revolution within the Spanish Civil War in 1936, Through the efforts of Spanish anarchists anarcho-communism existed in most of Aragon, parts of the Levante and Andalusia as well as in the stronghold of anarchist Catalonia before being crushed in 1939 by the combined forces of the Francoist Nationalists (the regime that won the war).
Anarcho-communist currents also appeared during the English Civil War and the French Revolution of the 17th and 18th centuries, respectively. Gerrard Winstanley, who was part of the radical Diggers movement in England, wrote in his 1649 pamphlet ‘ The New Law of Righteousness’ that there “shall be no buying or selling, no fairs nor markets, but the whole earth shall be a common treasury for every man” and “there shall be none Lord over others, but every one shall be a Lord of himself”.
The Diggers themselves resisted tyranny of the ruling class and of kings, instead operating in a cooperative fashion in order to get work done, manage supplies, and increase economic productivity. Due to the communes established by the Diggers being free from private property, along with economic exchange (all items, goods and services were held collectively), their communes could be called early, functioning communist societies, spread out across the rural lands of England.
Here’s a photo of Marlon Brando’s island in the South Pacific that Osho’s crew were hoping to purchase:
Thanks, Kavita, for finding me in this video at 4.44 mins.
There seems to be a lot of people holding twigs at the airport. Can anyone explain the relevance of all this ‘twig-holding’?
The twig-holders are water diviners, who just happened to be in New Delhi at a convention and got caught up in all the excitement generated by Osho’s return to India after conquering America.
“Water diviners”!!! Lokesh, how well on Earth did you describe that!
Ehm…erm…I have a very fluid imagination.
My guess is that carrying twigs and wearing orange turbans and jeans was the ‘in’ thing for Indian sannyasins back in those days.
Ya, just like English sannyasins wearing robes & mala was ‘in’ in those days!
You sure do!
Before I write my memory of that night at Delhi airport when I have the first darshan of my master, almost 30 years ago, I want to share one rare photo of lobbying work done by Indian disciples and Swami Arun of Nepal. This photo I have recently seen.
Once Osho was handcuffed by American government, Indian disciples united to create a force to appeal to the highest authorities in Indian government.
In this context, meeting with Indian President Gyani Jail Singh was a good step. Gyani-ji had soft corner for Osho.
In this photo are Swami Arun, Swami late Om Parkash Bharti, the founder of Rajyoga center in Delhi, whose son Satish is the power behind the rise of Oshodham in Delhi.
As I know from friends, this development has taken shape in his own farmhouse.
The third in the picture is Swami Anand Maitarya, whose little Samadhi is in the Lao tzu House of Osho Commune International, Pune. (God forbid, I will never address Osho´s property as Fucking Resort. It is mockery of civility).
Here I can say, during my Pune years I had heard some gossips that two more Samadhis will be constucted in the due time as per guidelines of Osho. One can guess whose ashes will adorn the ashram property.
Spot the odd-man-out in this rare photograph. I will give you a clue: BEARD.
Question:
Why is the Invisible Man sitting behind the desk?
I don’t see Arun in this photo, Mr. Shantam! Or is it that rather suave looking guy in the red suit? Looks a hundred years younger than how he looks now, if so.
Who is the shadow figure behind the PM’s ear?!
Red suit guy is Arun. One should not forget, if he was 35 at that time, now must be 65. Also, it shows his leadership qualities at that age too.
Behind the president, the guy in blue half-sleeve shirt seems to be secretary/translator/security.
Swami Banta Britannia reached upstairs. There he was surprised to see Hindus and Christians, Muslims and Sikhs etc. Swami-ji felt, it can not be right floor.
In his idea of right floor, rooms will be occupied by few Swamis and many Mas!
Parmartha, thank you for sharing this video and I am conveying the gratitude of the ones I shared it with since they thanked me & I told them it’s thanx to Sannyasnews & Parmartha
To be honest, I didn`t bother watching the video much during the parts where Ma Hasya and Osho were giving their press conferences, as I found it a bit boring.
But Hasya did comment on something that I found interesting, she mentions that Arjuna, the central figure of the Bhagavad Gita, had a Mexican wife, and she claims that around the time of the Mahabharat war, estimated to be around 5000 years ago, India had some kind of contact with the American continent.
Well, you learn something new every day.
“You will be surprised to know that Arjuna had one wife from Mexico too — Mexican kings had come with their armies to fight on Arjuna’s side. The Sanskrit name for Mexico is makshika; Mexico is a distortion of Makshika. Now much historical evidence has been collected and it is certain that Makshika is Mexico. In Mexico, Hindu temples have been found, Hindu gods and goddesses and their statues have been found. And the latest discovery is that there was a time when the water between Asia and America, the ocean water, was so shallow that you could simply walk from America to Asia. You could simply walk over the ocean; it was one foot deep at the most.”
Osho, ‘From Ignorance to Innocence’
Seems none of us, including me, were interested in Ma Hasya, but now I am wondering why and by whom were Ma Hasya & Swami Vinod Bharti commissioned to give the press conference.
To tell you the truth, Kavita, I didn’t like the so-called ´Hollywood tribe´ at the Ranch, mostly playing very special, like an adventurous’ reality’ soap, without having much to deal with other sides of a vision of communal living, be they beautiful (in comunion) be they very ugly. They also had their special bugging games, wires tapping (as I only heard later).
In her short time as a secretary she once visited Germany and it was for money and power issues and she left (like others) no doubt that she didn´t like us so much…exept that we gave money.
I loved Avirbhava though in Pune II as we say, and also when meeting her in the Ashram, she seemed to be the most natural one and really into giggling.
When I saw Hasya in the ´vid all those memories were triggered. Up to now, the American way to lead a school or centre – like in Sedona, where some I know have been for a while or even settled there – is quite different from the more grass roots happenings elsewhere.
I couldn´t say that I am not interested (historically), but I am not chilled either. I know that these people gave a lot of their money and are in a way important, and maybe then one of their issues is that you can ´t buy love, and this is a pretty strong one, isn´t it?
Madhu
Thanx for sharing, Madhu.
“I know that these people gave a lot of their money and are in a way important, and maybe then one of their issues is that you can ´t buy love, and this is a pretty strong one, isn´t it?”
I don’t know these people at all & Iam somehow glad I didn’t. Of course, I have come across such people in my life who think they can buy love but I make sure that they do stay away from me, you know what I mean.
Osho seems to have had a great capacity to make ladders out of most of the useless materials available to him!
There is no reply button to your response on my response to Arpana, this morning, Satyadeva.
Why am I not surprised? (MOD: WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY “no reply button”, MADHU?)
Your presumption that I would belong to a wheresoever media-sucking mass-entity is wrong; as simple as that, partly due to our tool of communication here as also to your prejudiced mind, I knew from before.
Why not be ´happy with yourself if you tend to avoid what is happening in the cultural (sometimes in turmoil) areas?
SN-UK, few bloggers here – not the navel of the world, fortunately.
Madhu
But Madhu, you complain that being exposed to such media presentations ‘exhausts’ you. So why bother with more than a bare minimum – especially when they bombard us with it all, virtually 24 hours a day, spreading the horror, the ‘dis-ease’, the emotional contagion of doubt, fear, resentment, anger etc. etc?
And I suggest that’s even more so for someone living alone, perhaps with ‘too much time on their hands’, as it were, too much temptation to get caught up in speculation and worry – all of it totally useless, of course.
Btw, what exactly do you mean by saying “your prejudiced mind”?
“Btw, what exactly do you mean by saying “your prejudiced mind”?”
Satyadeva, just re-read your second chapter again, then you will know. Maybe.
Otherwise, I feel sorry for you, when besides the yellow press or similar stuff there seems to be no variety of quality available.
I wonder about the sources you use to dare to describe the life I am living.
Third point is:
Compassion is not just a word.
Madhu
P.S:
We had this kind of ‘ping-pong’ already happening long ago; enough is enough.
Madhu, re “the sources” I “use to dare to describe the life” you are living, I was simply responding to the impression you often give in your posts, of someone struggling with her life-situation, living alone in an uncongenial area and largely caught up in various ongoing negative responses to both your immediate surroundings and the world in general (not to mention also to a few SN correspondents).
Given all that, I was suggesting that dwelling upon all the psychopathology of the world via the outpourings of the media – whether “yellow press” or ‘serious broadsheets’, tv or radio, online social media or blog – is not exactly conducive to nurturing one’s well-being.
If that sounds uncaring to you then perhaps you are imposing unrealistic limits on what you understand by “compassion”.
And btw, what exactly do you mean by my “second chapter”?
“If that sounds uncaring to you then perhaps you are imposing unrealistic limits on what you understand by “compassion”.”
Yes, there you are right, Satyadeva.
Madhu
And another P.S. to your straight way to teach me about ‘realism’, Satyadeva, I can add:
And even if people totally unknown to me (mostly males) spit out when they see me on the streets here the last years or have a massaging grip on their sexual machineries while looking at me, or women of the same area screaming “Allah Akabar” when stalking in a cheap supermarket, or when German neo-fascists here show up bald-headed with a Nazi swastika tattoo, stalking me the moment I leave the house and apartment…or the Turkish mother, the direct neighbour, whom I liked and wanted to become more acquainted with, who declared she is avoiding me for “cultural reasons”; or another one, when former Sannyas friends, like OM, a musician, did ask me last year around that time and totally out of the blue so to say, asked if I now would want to commit suicide…just like this, without giving me a clue why he was asking this…
So you are even more right, because if people don´t have any compassion at all it is truly so unrealistic to expect even a minimum.
And just a very few particles of everyday experiences I have to face for quite some time, Satyadeva, in the city jungle of unconciousnesses.
Experiences which have nothing to do with MY reading some ‘yellow press’ of some Facebook accounts, but very obvious with other people’s dealing with ‘Information-Age’ and going into action.
Btw, when I spoke of compassion in my response I had no idea of limits but meant:
Either compassion (empathy) is there. Or not.
So you teaching other stuff according to that matter, aren’t you? And yes, your approach is truly ‘more realistic’. According at least to street life nowadays. Fatwas unlimited. As a game.
Compassion? None.
Just to give you a little realistic background on everyday affairs I am confronted with – here where I am living.
Madhu
Sounds like a nightmare, Madhu. Is there a way you could move out of that area?
And, given those circumstances, there would seem even more reason to avoid media ‘over-kill’, wouldn’t there?
Madhu has written such a daring piece:
“And even if people totally unknown to me (mostly males) spit out when they see me on the streets here the last years or have a massaging grip on their sexual machineries while looking at me, or women of the same area screaming “Allah Akabar” when stalking in a cheap supermarket, or when German neo-fascists here show up bald-headed with a Nazi swastika tattoo, stalking me the moment I leave the house and apartment…or the Turkish mother, the direct neighbour, whom I liked and wanted to become more acquainted with, who declared she is avoiding me for “cultural reasons”; or another one, when former Sannyas friends, like OM, a musician, did ask me last year around that time and totally out of the blue so to say, asked if I now would want to commit suicide…just like this, without giving me a clue why he was asking this…”
WHY IT IS SO, MADHU?”
Perhaps SN contributors can provide some tips as to why the world is creating a victim out of you, why there is repulsion?
Do these people around you have no understanding of a woman full with Osho´s energy? Or there is another reality?