Message from the Amazonian Rain Forest…

Ma Yogini Bharti provides an update from the Ecuadorian Amazon, where she’s recovered from Covid but can clearly perceive we’re heading towards planetary disaster…

It is now well over two years since I wrote an article for Sannyas News, detailing my first meetings with Osho in 1972 and what happened to me subsequent to that. A lot has transpired in my life since then. For a start, the Covid virus made its way into the remote region of the Equadorian rain forest that I call home.

More than two million corona virus cases have been registered among indigenous people living in the Amazon basin (population 30,000,000), along with over 60,000 deaths since the pandemic began, according to the Co-ordination of Indigenous Peoples Organizations of the Amazon Basin (Coordinadora de las Organizaciones Indígenas de la Cuenca Amazónica, or COICA), the organization representing indigenous peoples across the Amazon’s nine countries.

I was one of the infected. Living where I do, running a fever is commonplace. Six months ago, I had a fever and put it down to being soaked in a downpour when tending my vegetable plot. It turned out that I had been infected by covid. I was bed-bound for two weeks and at one point I thought I was going to die because I could hardly breathe. Obviously I did not die and lived to tell the tale. I have recovered 99%, although I still feel a little tired some days, and I know it is not age-related. The same cannot be said for some of my neighbours.

The P.1 variant was first identified last November in the city of Manaus (a filthy city) in the heart of the Brazilian Amazon. In the year since it was first detected, the new variant has almost completely displaced the original COVID-19 virus that is most common across the world. The rapid spread of the new variant caught Manaus health authorities (completely disorganized) by surprise and the city soon ran out of oxygen as new cases—and deaths—skyrocketed over a short period of time. The spread of the virus is a complete disaster for the Amazon’s indigenous peoples.

Sitting where you are reading this you might well think this does not affect you, but it does. Science tells us that South America’s tropical forests that are managed by indigenous peoples capture more carbon, harbour more biodiversity, and are generally healthier than any other type of protected area in the world. Indigenous peoples and local communities possess detailed, time-tested, traditional knowledge on maintaining healthy forests, biodiversity and ecosystems. They are often better placed than scientists to provide accurate information on local environmental changes, and are important contributors to the management of forests to provide local to global benefits.

The Amazon rain forest represents this planet’s lungs. It helps manufacture the clean air you breathe. If you can afford to donate money to a good cause please send it to  Amazon Emergency Fund. Thank you.

Life goes on and so does Sannyas News. I downloaded a Kindle version of  ‘The Very Best and Worst of Sannyas News’ and was thrilled to see my previous article published in Chapter Two, Was Osho Wrong About Drugs? He was! I’m about halfway through the book and I must say that I am enjoying it to the point of reading it slowly so that I don’t reach the end too quickly. Some might think the book overdoes it with Anand Yogi’s ridiculous rants, but I can’t get enough of the guy because I find him hilarious. I think that his message is that it is important to laugh about ourselves. Poor Shantam gets blasted by Yogi and he takes it very well. If nothing else, Shantam is a very good sport and is quite funny himself at times, although I am not always sure if his ironic humour is intended or not, so I give him the benefit of the doubt. The book has come along at a good moment because the world is becoming an increasingly serious place to live in. So thanks to everyone at Sannyas News for making it happen, especially Swami G, who I take it is none other than our beloved Scottish Skinhead, Lokesh.

A week ago, I returned from the northern town of Puerto Francisco de Orllana. I went to have myself checked out by a doctor who was recommended to me. Turns out my immune system is flooded with covid antibodies, so I do not have to bother with getting vaccinated. It was the closest I’ve been to a population centre in a long time. I enjoyed going out to eat in a half-decent restaurant, drinking a couple of imported beers, and the view to be had of the mud-coloured River Napa from the suspension bridge was beautiful, but by the end of my long road journey I was happy to get home.

It is night time now as I sit under my mosquito net writing this on my laptop. A winged insect as large as my hand, attracted by the screen’s light, is flying against the netting and buzzing furiously as if in protest at encountering an insurmountable obstacle, which it hopefully is. Makes me think how different my humble abode must be compared to where you sit reading this now. A troop of howler monkeys have finally fallen silent after making a racket in the nearby jungle all afternoon.

Some weeks ago. I attended a meeting of local elders, who have finally come to grudgingly accept myfemale presence after some years. The local dialect is not easy to understand, but from what I gathered, coupled with what a friend told me, the news was not good. Deforestation of the rain forest by logging and oil companies continues at an alarming rate and the elders see this as just one more sign that our environment is on the brink of destruction, and they were not just talking about the rain forest.

One old Brazilian, Nuaraque shaman spoke about even worse infectious diseases than covid developing and blamed it on the ‘white’ people. He glared at me when he said this because I was the only Caucasian present. I’m by now accustomed to this type of social branding. The shaman also shared a vision he’d had about the eventual collapse of the white people’s civilization due to their over-reliance on electricity and technology.

Yes, I can hear you saying, you’ve heard it all before, but it is one thing hearing about it on the news, but another thing entirely to hear it said by a guy with red vegetable dye smeared across his forehead, who looks like he is 300-years-old and grew out of a tree and speaks with a voice containing the vitality of a healthy young man. I not only heard what the Nuaraque shaman said, I also felt it. It breaks your heart to hear such awful news from such a venerable being. Well, at least it has not happened yet, or else I would not have been able to write all this on my laptop and send it off to Sannyas News, when I visit the nearest village with satellite internet access.

From what I can gauge, from listening to the BBC World Service on my faithful Sony transistor radio, the COP meeting in the UK is just a lot of hot air. Or, as Greta says, “Blah, blah, blah!” Human life on this planet will need a massive effort by everyone, if our habitat is to remain habitable. I doubt it will happen. Everyone is so damned selfish. Nobody wants to give up anything much that would help our precarious situation. As George Carlin so poignantly put it, “We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam…The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.”

I am happy to receive emails:

I might add that the last time I put my email address on the site I received two emails from Indian guys asking me if I would like to have sex with them. There were other emails, one in particular I remember from someone called Lakshay in New Delhi, who sounds like a very sweet person.

Peace, love and harmony from the Equadorian rain forest.




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76 Responses to Message from the Amazonian Rain Forest…

  1. Lokesh says:

    That’s what I call an interesting article. So different from what we are used to here on SN. Thanks, YB.

    • frank says:

      “Pushing through the market square
      So many mothers sighing
      News had just come over
      We had five years left to cry in
      News guy wept and told us
      Earth was really dying
      Cried so much his face was wet
      Then I knew he was not lying.”

      • frank says:

        I was just listening to my favourite Bowie album and reading the latest article on SN when I received an email from Anand Yogi:

        “Certainly, the unconscious baboons who are reading ‘The Best and Worst of Sannyas News’ cannot handle the ultimate truth!
        Now they are abusing the freedom that Osho has given them and criticising holy words that have emanated from the very bowels of Swami Bhorat himself!
        Of course, it is to be expected that a Buddha will be murdered, a Socrates will be poisoned,a Jesus will be crucified and a Bhorat will get bad reviews on social media!
        And all from depraved, unconscious baboons who think that they are a joke unto themselves!

        In South America, as in mighty Bhorat, it is utterly necessary to listen to old men with dye smeared on forehead who are uncomfortable in presence of women!
        Certainly, goras are to blame for everything! Firstly, for urinating on holy shrines of our mighty religion and now emptying bowels on planet itself!
        The originators of all enlightenment religions, India and China, are not to blame at all!

        The only solution to problems created by goras and their minds is to bang head on marble 24/7 in deep meditation in 5000 yuga old tradition of Himalayan headbangers or to get blasted on Amazonian herbal brews in 5000 yuga old tradition of tripped-out thaumaturgists and shameless shamans.

        It is only hope for humanity!


  2. Klaus says:

    Yes, interesting writing about first-hand experience. Non-fiction.

    The old boys’ networks, everywhere.

    I have no doubt that the cutting down of the Amazon rainforest has strong effects everywhere: on the climate worldwide.

    “Only after the last tree has been cut down / Only after the last river has been poisoned / Only after the last fish has been caught / Then will you find that money cannot be eaten.” (Prophecy of the Cree Indians).

    Even Don McLean sings ‘On the Amazon’:
    “On the Amazon, the prophylactics prowl
    On the Amazon, the hypodermics howl
    On the Amazon, you’ll hear a scarab scowl and sting
    Zodiacs on the wing”

    The endlessly growing need for electricity for – imo, quite useless – things like ‘bitcoins’ is certainly one of the largest factors in the destruction of natural ressources: 1972: The limits of Growth – Club of Rome projects….

    For whom the bell tolls?

    • satyadeva says:

      Good, realistic but hopeful article in today’s ‘Guardian’, outlining findings of research into how massive changes in attitudes, beliefs and hence radical political action happen.

      Reminds me of the claim that ‘An idea whose time has come is unstoppable’…

      • Klaus says:

        Thanks for the link. And inspiration, SD.

        • frank says:

          Yeah, they need to make electric cars more affordable than old combustion engine ones. Otherwise it`s just too expensive for people.

          Which reminds me:
          A while back I went for a ride with a guy I know who has got a top-of-the-range Tesla. He wanted to show it off. It`s like a spaceship. I`m not really a motor freak so I didn`t realise how powerful it was. We went out onto a straight stretch of road and he suddenly put the accelerator pedal down to the floor. That thing does 0-60 in about 3 seconds! I was pinned back in my seat then felt violently ill for the rest of the journey.

          So, the tech is there.

          • Lokesh says:

            I do not believe that electric cars are going to help clean up the environment. I have a friend who bought a countryside property in Northern Portugal. She has now discovered that just up the road lies Europe’s biggest natural deposit of lithium, which is needed in the production of electric car batteries. Industrialists are starting to mine lithium for big profits. It is an environmental disaster, which amongst other things poisons the groundwater that the local farmers are reliant upon for agriculture.

            What to do? Very few car owners would be willing to give up their vehicles to clean up the air. Most human beings are selfish like that.

          • satyadeva says:

            Not all scientists agree that global warming is man-made. This is a very interesting video:


            If you find this documentary convincing then you might want to sign this petition:

            Petition Requests:
            Hold a referendum on whether to keep the 2050 net zero target.
            Set a referendum on whether the UK should continue with its 2050 net zero target.

            Essential details:
            “I believe net zero target lacks legitimacy and without a referendum the current climate change policy lacks the explicit consent of the people, as argued by The Harrogate Agenda. This exposes a massive democratic deficit in our system of government.”

            • frank says:

              It`s got Piers Corbyn in it.
              That`s a serious red flag.

              • satyadeva says:

                He’s not in it for long though.

                • frank says:

                  I don`t think anyone on any side is seriously saying that human industrial activity is not changing the ecosystem for the worse, tho`.

                  The argument of is it `the earth` or is it `people` seems kind of irrelevant. Humans are part of the earth, like it or not.

                  Never mind the complexities of mining and exhaust emissions etc., here in the UK the parliament just voted not to pressure the water companies from dumping raw sewage into the sea pretty much whenever they want, which they do with alarming regularity, to increase their profits. They pay occasional fines, which amount to little more than baksheesh for the govt.

                  It`s an extraordinary state of affairs.

                  In order to convince people to have/want less stuff, we have to reverse the whole cultural, economic, even philosophical super-concept of `growth` and profit. Actually, growth is a quasi-religious idea. It is so metaphorically ingrained that we even seek psychological and spiritual growth.

                  The whole of the materialist/capitalist world believes in growth. When an economy shrinks it`s a disaster. Saying that economies must shrink is probably going to be at least as difficult as trying to convince orthodox religious people that birth-control is necessary.

                • satyadeva says:

                  Yes indeed, this is and will increasingly be a crisis of the all-pervasive intellectual materialism that runs the world and, until we ‘wake up’, our lives.

                  I agree, it surely won’t go down without a hell of a fight as no one, or very few, wants to give up what they’ve got (in material terms).

                  And as many might ask, or imply, “Well, after all, what else you got?”

                • frank says:

                  As Covid becomes less of a burning issue and comes more under control, the focus of conspiracy beliefs will shift to anti-climate change/climate change denial.

                  It`s already happening.
                  Same virus, new variant!!

                • satyadeva says:

                  Although the scientists in the documentary aren’t denying climate change, they’re contesting the dominant narrative explaining its prime causes.

                • satyadeva says:

                  There’s a petition based on rejecting the man-made global warming narrative that’s now included at the post with the link to the documentary (November 15, 2.03pm).

                • frank says:

                  Talking about referendums…I ran into an old friend today, hadn`t seen him for years. He was a TM teacher since the 70s and been round the spiritual block including dabbling in a bit of Osho, now into some obscure guru from Gujrat.
                  We had quite a good chat for a while. Then he started trying to convince me to watch GB News. “It`s really balanced, better than the MMM”, he said.

                  “I never watch news programmes on TV”, I said, “it`s like inviting a bunch of nutters into your living room to shout at you, but who has it got on it?” I asked, feigning ignorance. He gave a list of names including, enthusiastically, Nigel Farage who “does interesting stuff about the migrant crisis.”

                  I pinched myself hard, and the weirdest thing: I wasn`t dreaming.

                • Lokesh says:

                  Nigel Farage! Man, that guy has got to be the biggest toad ever to crawl out from under a union jack.

                • frank says:

                  For sure.
                  But it seems some freaks have got their wires crossed. I can`t seem to convince them that Farage is not the right kind of toad to be licking!

                  They`ll end up on a bummer!

            • SD, thanks for sharing. This is a good video with sincere and intelligent intentions; not like the videos of the thugs who condemn Corona vaccination.

              Quite often sound of sanity gets buried when faceless frank kind of people take centre stage.

            • kavita says:

              SD, thanks for sharing this.

              Can’t agree more with Frank’s, “The whole of the materialist/capitalist world believes in growth. When an economy shrinks it`s a disaster. Saying that economies must shrink is probably going to be at least as difficult as trying to convince orthodox religious people that birth-control is necessary.”

              Sometimes I think we humans are much closer to cockroaches than monkeys, at least on the basis of our survival!

          • Klaus says:

            The batteries of electric cars and buses are very difficult if not impossible for the firemen to extinguish.

            In Stuttgart more than 20 buses burnt down in a fire: firemen could not do anything but wait and take care of the nearest other buildings.

            My neighbour is a recycling specialist. He told me that it would take 1 week for a burning electric battery to cool down in a water-cooling container.

            Fire departments are not prepared for electric car fires let alone e-bus fires.

            Technology, technology.

            • frank says:

              Thanks, Klaus, I didn`t know that.
              No doubt they will have to use even more poisonous chemicals to solve that problem.

              The whole tech story does sound alarmingly like using heroin to treat opium addiction and then using fentanyl to treat heroin addiction and so on ad infinitum.

              The only alternative is to go complete cold-turkey.

              It`s like the Zen story of the guy on a cliff ledge with the strawberry up ahead and the tiger down below.

      • swamishanti says:

        I always found there’s something special about sitting around a firepit close to earths natural beauty. The powers-that-be do try to make that difficult for people to do for too long these days. They hate the idea of folks living outside of their little pocket.

        I came across a beautiful wild area, a small piece of land the other day just off a main road that was blocked by a large boulder. That rock had just been put there in the entrance to stop people from driving into that field, which is not used by any farmer or owned by anyone except perhaps the National Trust, and now the overgrown field, which is flanked by small hills and bordered by some trees is lying empty. No one walks in there. What a waste.

        Apparently they’ve blocked most of the nicest places like that with rocks in England since the nineties so people can’t drive into them and camp anymore. You have to go up North or into Wales for a slightly more relaxed environment.

        Then I came across this track which seemed appropriate:

        “At night we’ll watch the embers blaze
        As sparks dance in the darkening sky
        And dream of better days…
        Of a freedom never bought not sold…
        No good intentions turned to dust
        It can’t be broke with threats or gold…
        I may leave but I won’t be gone
        I’ll be there beside the fire singing along to all out songs
        So I’ll meet you on the ridgeway downs
        Under the solstice sun….”

        ‘Ridgeway Downs’ from Firepit Collective:

        From a recommended album of folk which I discovered the other day.

        • Lokesh says:

          Shanti says, “I always found there’s something special about sitting around a firepit close to earth’s natural beauty.”
          Yes, that I can relate to. I have a hidden area on my land with a heap mighty sacred dhuni. During the hot months you are strictly forbidden to light fires on Ibiza. If you do, you will have a police helicopter over the fire within 10 minutes and receive a huge fine.

          This time of the year is different. You can light fires outside whenever you want. I love it. Nothing to beat a holy fire. Brings one back to a timeless time, where fires were the poor man’s TV. You can stare at the fire for hours and the movie constantly changes. I love altered states wherein the flames take you back to prehistoric times. A crackle and a cloud of sparks a cosmic event. Rising smoke a family of displaced ghosts. Might light a fire this afternoon, just for the pure enjoyment of it. All SN regulars welcome.

          • frank says:

            Yeah, but getting all that smoke in your eyes, coughing, getting mud on your ass, being bitten by midges and mosquitos, wouldn`t you rather be indoors watching Kim Kardashian’s ass on widescreen reality TV or watching the latest cult horror docu on Netflix whilst slumped on a comfy sofa and slurping on a tub of Ben and Jerry`s Half-baked Cinnamon Buns icecream?

            It`s a no-brainer,surely?

            • frank says:

              I found this by some phyasics guy:

              “Firewalking is an amazing thing. After all, walking with your bare feet on a hot road at 44°C for 35 seconds can give you second-degree burns. So how do people walk on fire and not get burnt?

              My first point is that the name ‘firewalker’ is not accurate. They don’t walk on fire. In fact, most firewalkers don’t even walk on naked hot coals. In general, they walk on hot coals that are covered by ash — but ‘ashwalker’ doesn’t sound as impressive as ‘firewalker’.

              My second point relates to the concept of ‘heat conductivity’. It sounds a bit complicated, but let’s take it one step at a time. It relates to how quickly heat travels from one body to another.

              Imagine that you have a cake cooking in a cake tin, inside an oven at 180°C. It has been baking for an hour, so everything in the oven is at 180°C. So the air, the cake, and the metal cake tin in which the cake rests are all at 180°C.

              You open the oven and plunge your hand into the hot air at 180ºC. Your hand does not get burnt by the hot air. Weird!

              Next, you gently, with your naked finger, touch the top of the cake, which is also at a temperature of 180°C. Once again your finger does not get burnt. More weirdness.

              But if you touch the hot cake tin, you’ll immediately get large blisters on your naked fingers. So you grab an oven mitt and remove the hot tin and cake.

              Why do the air, cake and metal cake tin all have different abilities to burn you?

              Welcome back to our friend, heat conductivity.

              Heat conductivity measures how rapidly heat energy can flow out of an object. ‘Conductivity’ and ‘insulation’ are opposites. If an object is a good conductor, it’s a bad insulator — and vice versa.

              Air is a bad conductor, and a good insulator. So the flesh of your hand can ‘touch’ the hot air in the hot oven and not get burnt.

              The same goes for the cake. Even though the cake has a lot of heat energy stored in it, its poor conductivity stops the heat from getting into your hands. There is a lot of heat energy in the cake, but it can’t flow quickly into your naked hand. Mind you, if you lay your hand on the hot cake for more than a few seconds, you’ll get a nasty burn.

              But the cake tin has both a high heat content and a high conductivity. Touch the tin for a second or two with your naked flesh, and you’ll get burnt immediately.

              But what about hot coals? They turn out to be very bad conductors of heat. A hot coal has a moderate amount of heat energy, but is incredibly bad at passing that heat energy to anything else.

              Back in 1997, Kjetil Kjernsmo, a Norwegian scientist from the University of Oslo, investigated the phenomenon of firewalking with heat sensitive cameras. The first thing he found was that the temperature of the coal bed varied between 150°C and 700°C. 700°C is hot, but nowhere near the 1,200°C that some firewalkers claim to have measured.

              The second thing that he found was that very little heat energy left the coals and entered the naked feet, during a firewalk. According to his heat camera, the naked feet didn’t cool down the coals much at all — so the hot coals stayed hot, and the feet stayed cold, all thanks to the very low thermal conductivity of the coals. He measured that after a typical firewalk, the bare soles heated up by only 4°C.

              Finally there is some physiology involved. The outer layer of human skin is dead. Even people who always wear shoes and have soft feet, have enough dead skin to provide good insulation. And as a final help, blood circulating through the feet is an excellent conductor, and helps to take the heat away.

              It’s not a higher state of spiritual awareness that protects you from blisters — it’s basic high school thermodynamics.

              So if somebody tries to take your money for firewalking, ask them to prove that they have something really special to offer. Ask them to walk on a hot steel plate — it might not be such a cake walk, after all! “

              • frank says:

                I love all that Jadoo wallah stuff.

                Back in the day, I knew a couple of guys who did a bed-of-nails act for money in tourist venues. One guy would strip down to his trunks and lie on the bed of nails. The crowd would wonder, ooh and aah. The highlight was when the other guy placed a lightweight breeze-block on top of the prone guy and then whacked it with a hammer. The audience would wince and applaud. The money would be collected.

                The trick was simple. There are a lot of nails on the `bed` and they are positioned close enough to each other so that the guy’s weight is evenly distributed, meaning no harm is done apart from the occasional scratch and graze, and the guy is careful getting on and off.

                The breeze block bit is just theatre with the guy exaggerating the power of the blow.

                Next week: How to pull a cast-iron roller 100 metres using only your testicles and a length of piano-wire.

  3. This is the beauty of Caucasian race, they are the creator and destroyer and maybe re-crator of present day human civilization.

    Thanks a Lot, Ma Yogini Bharti, for this wonderful writing.

    You are really a Ma.

  4. kavita says:

    YB, you surely are a living Amazonian!
    We city-living people are Amazonians of a different kind!
    Seems today is the Age of Amazon!

  5. satchit says:

    “Just another failed mutation”…

    It is human to dream of goals, but Existence plays the game of life and death.

  6. Let us send positive energy for Belarus/Poland conflict taking a world war shape.

    Remaining humanity has to start fresh:
    Koran will be the guiding book, no science, no technology, making love for babies, not for fucking Tantra!
    Elders in Amazon will feel happy to see world without electricity.

  7. If Amazon forests are lungs of earth, India was once dubbed as heart energy of the planet.

    I don´t mind to say, India has lost its innocence of the heart. Blame is mostly on its spiritual dealers and traders, founding father of Neo-sannyas & his followers included.

    Problem with sannyasins is, like their guru, they blame each and everyone for the decline and shamelessly take higher moral ground.

    If we don’t feel remorse or guilt, rectification is also not possible.

    It was a great opportunity given to Shree Rajneesh and his people; because of hedonist inclinations, opportunity lost its energy.

    Energy not used properly gets lost; even if that energy is called Enlightenment.

    • satyadeva says:

      Shantam, I would say any loss of India’s “innocence of the heart” is down to its embrace of the dominant world culture, intellectual materialism, rather than its “spiritual dealers and traders”. Blaming Osho and his sannyasins as contributors to this alleged decline is specious, to put it mildly, an assessment that would appear to originate from your own personal disillusionment rather than a clear-sighted, more objective standpoint.

      Similarly, re your criticism of sannyasins for blaming “each and everyone” and “shamelessly” taking the “higher moral ground”, perhaps you might attain more clarity if you were to turn that upon yourself and see whether it fits.

      Consider your last two paragraphs, for instance. I mean, for God’s sake, Shantam, you’ve been the most sex-obseessed contributor here, by a very long way! (Although how “properly” you’ve used that energy is in fact not entirely clear – LOL…).

      • My personal disillusionment…
        The bank created by a philosophy professor went bankrupt due to mismanagement of the funds; there was no hue and cry because professor was also a sect leader.

        In sects and mafia blame is always on the state. No wonder followers think like Insects once they are in the sects.

        Instead of contemplating on my post, SD took the gun and tried to shoot the messenger.

        Power of denial is such, it is always the others. Neo-sannyasins have learnt this from their guru.

        Every master is a human being too. All human beings can commit mistakes and blunders. It is human.

        Below human is to hide the skeletons in the cupboards created with third-rate logic and high dose of oratory.

        • satyadeva says:

          The trouble is, Shantam, this isn’t new from you, you’ve been repeating this for years.

          And the potential inherent dangers of “sects” and the possible fallibility of a master are issues that have long been taken on board by many. So what purpose do you think this outpouring of blame is serving, apart from perhaps making yourself feel less depressed at having made some choices that haven’t turned out as you’d hoped and expected?

        • Klaus says:

          Every time I get into that kind of a mood I watch myself some Rodney Dangerfield on the Ed Sullivan Show:

          That gets me back to normal or at least neutral.

        • Klaus says:

          @Shantam 16 Nov 2021 1:00 pm

          I am wondering indeed how much degrading, even dehumanizing language this forum is prepared to bear: “thinking like insects”

          I am wondering further if there is any goodwill in such tweets.

          What I sense is “ill will”.

          And instead of getting better their quality is deteriorating.

          My guess is that such a person would be cast out from any at least a little bit serious ashram:
          “There seems to be nothing for you to be learned here. So please leave the premises by 4 pm at the latest. Thank you.”

    • Klaus says:

      “Energy not used properly….”

      Well, the hindrances imo are “Greed, Aversion and Ignorance”
      (one can choose others according to one’s preferences).

      I admit that for me it is all three of them:
      I felt remorse for time not used fully or wisely, but no guilt as I also felt that I gave it my best.
      Better still is – or would be – not to get stuck with any of the above….


  8. Yogini,
    Maybe you can share the below article with the amazonian elders:

    My only concern is humanity does not carry outdated religious memories and imagination in the cosmos.

    Earth has become hellish because of religions based on adoring people who are no more.

    • frank says:

      Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kids…

      • frank says:

        AY from Facebook:

        “Certainly Amazonian elders led by ultimate Amazonian chief Jeff Bezos are seriously considering blasting people into space for good of humanity!

        Latest plans from Wackoleaks indicate that Nine Men of Mighty Bhorat, in latest attempt to save the planet, are planning to blast rocket containing Jayesh, Amrito, Arun , Kirti, Dhum and Dhummer, Sheela, Modi, Sadhguru, Shantam and few others into space in same rocket onto international space-station where they will all participate in ultimate reality TV show to be aired live on Amazon Prime!

        Certainly, after many decades of following enlightenment religion and preaching dangers of mind and ego, contestants will have very few ego problems and be able to live in harmony together to create new man/woman!

        Following ‘Big Brother’ template, at end of each week, terrestrial audience will vote on who gets thrown out of space station into space! Last survivor will be declared enlightened and given own ashram on Mars!

        By end of show, humanity`s hopes for future will be greatly improved!


        • Klaus says:

          AY the Visionary!

          The World is Strange. Mars is Stranger. New bodies. Same minds.

          • frank says:

            The show promises to be a blockbuster.
            I hear Gordon Ramsay has been recruited to shout and bully contestants in the kitchen as device for their awakening.

            Simon Cowell and Sharon Osbourne will be judging contestant`s levels of enlightenment, which sounds about right.

            Expect tiffs, tantrums, bitching, blaming,bribery,corruption,drug abuse,denial,poisonings,butt-stabbing, jealousy,revenge,score-settling, Machiavellian machinations, fascism, rightwing politics,forgery,heavy drinking, under-age sex, predatory sexual behaviour, delusional pronouncements and lies in spades.

            It promises to be the ultimate reality show for all those interested in the ultimate reality.

            But will the contestants have the X factor?
            Will they finally experience unconditional love on love island?
            Or will they be screaming, “I`m a celebrity disciple, get me out of here!” on the first day?

            • frank says:

              Of course, I forgot GBH, attempted murder and murder.

            • “Expect tiffs, tantrums, bitching, blaming, bribery, corruption, drug abuse, denial, poisonings, butt-stabbing, jealousy, revenge, score-settling, Machiavellian machinations, fascism, right wing politics, forgery, heavy drinking, under-age sex, predatory sexual behaviour, delusional pronouncements and lies in spades.”

              This reminds me of a cult once sitting on a higher pedestal.

              Many times people don´t say such things, because they don´t want to acknowledge disillusionment out of politeness, courtesy or false bravado.

            • Klaus says:

              @ AY:
              “It’s a Yes from me!”

  9. Lokesh says:

    Deforestation in Brazil’s Amazon rainforest has hit its highest level in over 15 years, official data shows. A report by Brazil’s space research agency (Inpe) found that deforestation increased by 22% in a year.

    Brazil was among a number of nations that promised to end and reverse deforestation by 2030 during the COP26 climate summit.

    The Amazon is home to about three million species of plants and animals, and over one million indigenous people. It is a vital carbon store that slows down the pace of global warming.

    According to the latest data, some 13,235 sq. kms. (5110 sq. miles) was lost during the 2020-21 period, the highest amount since 2006.

    Environment Minister Joaquim Leite said the data represents a “challenge” and said, “we have to be more forceful in relation to these crimes.”

    He added that the data “does not exactly reflect the situation in the last few months-.”

    • Lokesh, instead of copy/pasting one paragraph why not mention in a single sentence 2.010.000 results are available if one types ‘deforestation in Brazil’s Amazon rainforest’?

      As one sees, solutions are provided by those who are part of the problem.

  10. Lokesh says:

    Yes, Shantam, I do not need to mention that because you have just done that. What you fail to mention is that the data I supplied was only released 48 hours ago and is therefore current and relative to the topic, which is more than can be said about most of your above comments, which are all over the shop.

    You conclude, “As one sees, solutions are provided by those who are part of the problem.”
    I do not see that solutions are provided by those who are part of the problem. In fact, I am not exactly sure what you mean by this. Perhaps you might care to explain. Or is it yet another case of you just writing whatever enters your mind at any given moment with no need on your part to try and make it clearly understood what you are saying?

  11. satchit says:

    Bad News from the rainforest on Sannyas News.

    There are many bad news on this planet: climate, virus and so on. Is there any good News?

    What options does one have in one’s own hands to change bad news into good news? None.

    • Lokesh says:

      Satchit, when it all boils down we do not really know what is good news or bad news, although there is a lot of seemingly bad news around.

      My favourite take on the environment is from George Carlin, ‘Save the Planet’ on Youtube. Check it if you have not already done so. Very funny.

      • satchit says:

        Yes, George Carlin was funny.

        But maybe he is also a bit cynical?
        We call it “Galgenhumor” here.

        • frank says:

          George Carlin said: “Scratch any cynic and you will find a disappointed idealist”.

          I guess he could have been talking about himself

          Actually, I don`t find George Carlin that funny in the sense of laughing out loud ,splitting your sides, crying laughing.

          I think he is stronger at pushing you to see things as being generally absurd and mad funny.

  12. frank says:

    I see that there is an article at Osho News featuring a “presentation” of the book: ‘The Very Best and Worst of Sannyas News’

    Disappointingly, imv, they have not reviewed it themselves.

    Osho News was very helpful, as always, but said they had no one available to write a review of the book.

  13. Lokesh says:

    Yes, all the regulars on SN have now been officially immortalized.

    • frank says:

      Yes indeed, word is finally filtering out from the occult dimensions into the mainstream that the Eight Immortals of Chinese mythology/Taosim and the Nine Unknown Men are actually SN contributors.

    • Klaus says:

      Well, as an outsider I do not know what is happening behind the scenes.

      Thus, it registered positively with me that there “always is a helpful cooperation” as stated by the mods between the actives involved. Could have been different….

      Everybody should grow up in this life not only emotionally-mentally, but also spiritually. E/mancipating one’s good and bad selves from this or that leadership. Anyways, pain we experience ourselves will guide us on. Possibly in this way. Or any other.

      It is good to know about the traps and dangers or negative (over)identification. Examples/exhibits 1 to 1xxxxx.
      It is also good to know about the traps and dangers of positive (over)identification. Examples/exhibits 1 – could be me, for sure!! – to 1xxxxx.

      One of the, imo, helpful functions of this forum certainly is to point these out respectfully, discuss them from all the possible points of view. Based on experience or on opinion or (profound) research or all of it. Including outrageously hitting satire.

      What is immortal stays immortal.
      What is mortal will pass away or die. Sooner or later.

      For all (?) else, who you gonna call?

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