Pramada
Pramada played cello with ELO, a seven-piece band led by Jeff Lynne, from their first live gig in 1972 until he left in January 1975. He was a member of the UK Medina Rajneesh commune in the 80′s where he regularly played music for satsangs. Post Medina, he produced operas for Sadlers Wells and Covent Garden. In 1992, he released a double cassette as part of Tim Brophy & Deva Pramada.
Face the music (ELO information site) have posted a tribute to Pramada
O morning breeze, bring your happy face as soon as you can
To the Beloved’s Street!
You are the Messenger of Mystery, and now I know I am on the
Right path. So don’t give me orders, but urge me gently on.
Winebringer, give me some of your reddest wine.
As my soul is slipping from my hands.
Let me tie all my hope to Your woven gold belt.
This diet of reason I’ve been on has led me nowhere.
That waistline of Yours traces a divine subtlety. Now I know.
From where I sit, the sight of Your sword is a sure sign of drought,
So take me captive and slay me with water and buckets of ice.
I have written these words in code, made only for Your eyes.
Please take them, and read them right away! – a poem by Hafeez
Oh Bells Oh Bells..
You don´t ring just for them..
I hear my name also in your sounds.
Dilruba,
As many of us in Pune, who were Friends, were not meeting each other on regular basis but burning ghat was a melting point, time and again.
Burning ghat on the river banks, old Banyan tree, Noisy traffic and sounds of life from across the other side of the river, every sannyasins departure from the same spot Osho´s body was immersed in the fire was a living tribute to the spirit of modern day seeker.
Many guests from around the world were feeling a sense of deja vu.. as if in the fast forward clock of time, they have been given this send off in this high energy atmosphere of love and devotion.
Just from no where.. a living custom started fading..
Institutions are like the roots of the tree. When the roots loses the will to survive or tries to be something else.. rituals and customs around them start losing the shine, as if the bankruptcy mangers are making the last inventory. Love and devotion, caring and friendliness, co dependency and the community became ugly words at the root level.
Today.. i write again with my sannyas name and the name describing my socio religious identity.
I am a sannyasin… but a Sikh sannyasin, and does not crave to be somebody else.
I am Shantam Iqbal Singh, and when the death knocks me down.. i wish to say good bye with the customs, which were before my birth and stay after wards too.
I don´t mind even the presence of Christian priest in one of the Churches i visit frequently. Only request will be, just don´t make any plea to any one on my behalf. Just a Church song is more than enough, i wish to carry with me. Just like a sandwitch(Aloo paratha) and a cup of warm drink.
For my taste.. it is still real, if not grandiose.
Iqbal … maybe about 15 years ago when you were having fever .. you wrote on a piece of paper .. your will .. and asked me to keep it safely … but l threw it away .. after you got well … lets wait n watch … this time … l have not had lunch as yet .. so maybe .. will arrange some for myself … my mother is not at home .. so have to see .. chareveti … chareveti ………
Ciao bella!!!
when i heard about oshothemovie , and when i see website and cast , i felt as if osho is only left to make money and to use to fulfil personal ego and become famous. No actor can justify with osho’s role because he needs to be enlightened first and also what act possibly this actor can do . osho believed whole life in non doing anything.
and what this director of movie really want to show . whatever happened around was so recently that you can see yourself in osho discoures.
<My point is no movie will be able to show you what goes on inside the being of sannyasins or osho…..howsoever it can be beautifuly made ,osho movie only can mis guide . please write your comments on oshothemovie as well for director who is unknowingly going to do something childish
BY THE WAY I LOVE ACTORS WHO HAS BEEN CHOOSED TO PLAY ROLES IN MOVIE , KABIR BEDI, SANJAY DUTT AND KAMAL HASSAN ,
THEY CAN EASILY PLAY ROLE OF UN ENLIGHTENED SANNYASINS LIKE ME , BUT NOT OF OSHO . ONLY ONE MAN CAN PLAY OSHO’S ROLE , THAT IS OSHO HIMSELF
what about brian ” the doppelganger” rajneesh?
he is a shoe-in for the role.
he has done all the method acting homework,right down to the eyebrow movements.have you any idea how much dedication that takes?.
with him as the main man,you are looking at oscar nominations at the very least…
kate winslet as vivek.
some bolly bird as sheela
bill nighy as teertha
robert carlyle as hugh milne
and sean connery as magga baba……
i can`t wait…..
Frank, you are so funny,
yes rajneesh fits. i completley forgot about him, but they will still need someone to voice dubbing for him
frank, o my god, can stop laughing ……..sean connery as magga baba
Anugrah….ONLY ONE MAN CAN PLAY OSHO’S ROLE , THAT IS OSHO HIMSELF
How about Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top. As Osho must have been aware…’Every girl’s crazy about a sharp dressed man’
lokesh, Billy Gibbons never heard . can he play magga baba or masta baba
SORRY I SHOULD NOT MAKE FUN OF MASTA BABA AND MAGA BABA. THEY WERE GOOD FRIENDS TO OSHO
Anugrah, you ask, can he play magga baba or masta baba?
I reckon Billy could play anything. One thing is for sure he can play the guitar like ringing a bell.
Now, will you move on to the next thread please. I’d like to here what you have to say on the matter at hand.
Pramada
In january 1989 I sat watching him play Cello duets in muswell Hill with Rahmat and others.
That was a blessing.
Then and now
The sweetness and passion.
Re Osho The Movie….
I believe Osho once said he did not want a movie to be made about him. But I do not know if this is the sort of thing that still stands.
In principle I do not see why a movie should not be made about Osho.
But I do not think the way Lakshen is going about it is particularly good.
First I do not think it is a particularly good idea to try and raise money for the movie from sannyasins. If you cannot raise money from commercial sources that probably shows there is no market for the movie.
Second I do not think Lakshen’s synopsis is very good. It is too complicated. Only people in the know will understand what is going on. Someone who does not know much about Osho or the history won’t understand what is going on.
Third….this is what Lakshen says about distribution “Distribution-Participation to Festivals- TV, Dvd, Home Video distribution, etc.” Note he does not include cinema chains in the list. What is the point in making a movie if you do not at least aspire for distribution through major cinema chains?
In England we have (or had) a subsidised film industry which keeps lots of directors in work making mediocre films which are not distributed widely. The films end up as DVDs sold cheaply in stores. If the director is lucky his film is shown at some obscure film festival. Lakshen’s “Osho the Movie” could easily go the same way.
Wow! what a senseless waste…….of a lovely guy and a beautufully talented musician….a hay bale??!! christ you just never know what’s waiting, literally, around the next bend. As for osho the movie….Billy Connolly or Robin Williams ” men of gigantic proportions when it comes to funny and my goodness we need it.
I have just good memories of Pramada . I bet he would have a good laugh about the manner of his physical demise! A man who plays a cello with a grapefruit does not want tom die in an old folks home!
good point.