The outline of this story was originally told by Arvind Kumar, the then Secretary to Osho in Jabalpur in 1966, and has been previously re-told in various ways in various places.
A professor of the Banaras Hindu University in Varanasi read a book by Osho in Hindi, entitled Kranti Beej which means Seeds of Revolution. She became very interested by the book, and at the next available opportunity she left from Benaras to Jabalpur by train to see Osho.
On arrival at Jabalpur, she learnt from Kumar that Osho had gone to Delhi to lecture at a Jain event, and would be back after five days. Learning this, as she had the time, she decided to carry on to Delhi.
On arrival she was pleased to meet Osho directly and speak with him. She told Osho that she wanted to stay with him for the maximum of time and ended up sleeping in his room.
The following morning when she had been to listen to Osho’s discourse, upon returning she found that her luggage had been thrown out of the room and dumped on the veranda. As a result she decided to leave.
However when Osho learned of this, he called for the Jain organiser and asked what the problem was. Why was her luggage removed from his room? The organiser told that as per rules of the Jain Society a male and female can’t be allowed to stay in one room. Osho said, “If she wants to stay there and I have no objection, why should you worry?” But the organiser said that the Jain Society’s rules could not be violated for anybody.
The female professor commented that until now they had insulted only her, but now they were insulting Osho as well. With that she doubly resolved to leave.
But in the wake of this, Osho told the organisers to keep their stupid rules to themselves, and that he too was leaving, and got up to follow the professor. This was the moment when Lala Sunder Lal ji, a very well-known publisher of English books (Motilal Banarsidas) came forward to invite Osho and the professor to stay at his house, and took them there. As a result Osho was to stay with Lala on all his future visits to Delhi.
This incident became a highlighted news item at the time, published in a number of Indian newspapers !
When Osho travelled next, to lecture in Ahmedabad, some friends suggested to Osho that he should not give much attention to women otherwise it would earn him a bad name and people would not believe he was a celibate sage. At this Osho asked, “When did I tell you that I was a celibate sage”?
More conformists are the followers, more they enjoy the stories of their brave masters….
Shantam carped:
“More conformists are the followers, more they enjoy the stories of their brave masters….”
You’re jealous Shantam. Jealous because they won’t conform to you!!
This piece is written by great Osho devotee Aghey Bharti in oshonews.
Psychological and mystical question will be, why those Indians who supported Osho in the beginning withered away with time? Most of them have invested their time, money, emotions.
Compared to that, what was the investment of our senior sannyasin? Happily married Indian who always remained in his government job like all the Indians prefer to live, and can afford to maintain their devotion and gloat about the stories of the past.
Everybody loves low-risk investment with high returns!
This “story” is not original to Mr Bharti! In fact, one account apparently first occurs in Swami Gyan Bhed’s book, ‘The Rebellious Enlightened Master Osho’, and of course in the memoirs of Osho’s first Secretary, Arvind Kumar.
The photos here have been reused from OshoNews, but the text changed to get less of a Mr Bharti flavour.
I myself do not find Mr Bharti at all “great”, but maybe Shantam here is also being playful….
Parmartha, just reminding in case u need to be, this incident was discussed on SN: http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5398.
I also think he was being playful!
Everybody loves low-risk investment with high returns! – not all have the privilege to invest !
Those who embraced Sannyas invested heavily. Now they can think whether it was blue chip like Reliance, Apple or some Ponzi scheme!
When someone summed up Sannyas as “hullabaloo” or “cacophony” shows much.
Life is so hilarious: sometimes truth comes out, even from tight-lipped mouths.
@ Shantam:
But truth never comes from you under any circumstances. Just a perpetual, unconsidered prejudice.
Sometimes it is good not to react. Readers can still find out who walks like an elephant, who barks like a dog.
Religious opium has such an effect, whistle-blowers were condemned and ignored in the past and now too. So it is a uplifting task to broom the seats of sects, cults, religions.
Another puerile attempt at manipulation, Shantam barking dog.
Life is so hilarious: SOMETIMES truth comes out, even from tight-lipped mouths” – who no longer like to be tight-lipped &a have not missed a chance since a long time!
Yes, Shantam.
You definitely are jealous. LOL.
What a woman, this professor of Banaras University!
And we are talking fifty years back! She just left her place, I guess on her own, went to Jabalpur and then to Delhi and there she shared Osho’s room! She was really courageous!
And she didn’t mind any insults but she did mind when they insulted Osho. What a woman!
The religious people were worried about Osho’s genitalia. Had he had sex? Not allowed! It reminds me of a century ago, when the religious people were worried about the ‘pooing’ and ‘peeing’ of the enlightened ones. Not allowed!
And nowadays, what are the enlightened people not allowed? One wonders!
Cheers!
This “story” about Osho has the ring of truth, and also in my case makes me feel closer to him as a human being.
This lady, given India at the time (and even now) showed great courage, and one wonders if she ever became a sannyasin after 1970, when Osho began initiating people into sannyas? The story is from 1966.
I doubt very much, Big P.
I don’t think she needed to go into all that hullabaloo. I am sure she already was very much blessed by Osho.
Cheers!
“Hullabaloo”.
Spot on, Tan. Sannyas summed up in one word. LOL.
Here’s another:
Cacophony.
No wonder, Arpana, Tan, with your ´diagnosis´, and I include this time the one-liner of Veet Francesco to that topic, that nowadays dictatorial regime leaders are already dreaming again of the ´efficiency´ of concentration camps or are keeping experts of surveillance busy to instal methods of the so-called white torture, to apply that on people who talk too much.
As far as the indeed very courageous woman is concerned, who stood up against the whole ugly past in that incident here mentioned, we don´t know any much more about her, or do we?
And as far as Osho is concerned, we can read or have glimpses to come to know from the Source Book (History) or from His sharing ´Glimpses of a Golden Childhood´, what a blessing it might be not to be deep programmed in early childhood with all kind of prejudices – or what a blessing it might be to have a mature and loving grandma at your side in the early delicate years.
If such matches with a very special gift and talent of expression to communicate stuff which is needed to change on a collective level for the better and for more Humanness, that´s very beautiful, to say the least.
Re the topic:
I always loved listening when He differentiated ´revolutionaries´ from people with a rebellious spirit; the latter more a grass roots approach in being and inter-relating and getting courage for a change more the natural growing (-up) way.
Patience is not just a word in that context but a state of being – also a state of being in investigating failures, individually as collectively. More the work of a gardener in spiritual affairs.
Madhu
P.S:
Thank you, Arpana, for your link to the early TAO lectures of 1971.
@ Madhu:
“No wonder, Arpana, Tan, with your ´diagnosis´, and I include this time the one-liner of Veet Francesco to that topic, that nowadays dictatorial regime leaders are already dreaming again of the ´efficiency´ of concentration camps or are keeping experts of surveillance busy to instal methods of the so called white torture, to apply that on people who talk too much.”‘
Is that approval or disapproval, Madhu?
If you re-read the whole of my comment, Arpana, it´s gonna be easy, I guess, to find out, what is what re ´disapproval vs approval´.
Madhu
@ madhu dagmar frantzen 30 July, 2017, at 11:23 am:
I’ve read that paragraph six times and still can’t work it out!
If that is so, Arpana (at 11:23 am), then better for you to speak with my cyberstalking, streetwork-stalking neighbours here; best with the Turkish section as they have really known, with sophistication, for about 8 years, how to torture a woman sufficiently and get it done to their contentment.
Or maybe visit on the viral line some British coach nearby. The ´world´ is small, isn´t it?
I just can repeat: Re-read the whole of my comment here.
Madhu
Mod, Can you tell me if this is approving or disapproving?
No matter how many times I read that first paragraph I can’t tell.
MOD:
Madhu SUGGESTS YOU RE-READ THE WHOLE COMMENT, Arpana.
Mod, Can you tell me if this is approving or disapproving?
No matter how many times I read that first paragraph I can’t tell.
MOD:
Madhu SUGGESTS YOU RE-READ THE WHOLE COMMENT, Arpana.
The way it reads to me, and I’m not sure, is Madhu disaproves of me and Tan, but she does aprove of Osho.
“The way it reads to me, and I’m not sure, is Madhu disapproves of me and Tan, but she does approve of Osho.”
Are you jealous that she approves of Osho and maybe not of Arpana?
Bless. ROTFLMAO
The disciples of a brave master: more are cowards and more minimise his actions.
Ciao,
VF
Interesting that he was already taking steps to go against the stereotype of the enlightened master.
I guess the Acharya was a rock `n` roll animal before his time, demanding unmarried ladies in his room after the gig…
I wonder what the headline in the local paper would have been if he`d thrown a wireless outa the window of his room…
or driven his Morris Ambassador into the temple tank…
or ordered roomservice to deliver a coupla kilos of Paan leaves….
Then they threw his suitcase out of the hotel,leading to the immortal lines:
“Standin` on a corner
suitcase in my hand
visiting professor`s in a corset
Jains in their lunghis
and me,I`m in a rock n` roll band
Sweet Jain
Sweet sweet Jain….”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMMAKX2UcIM
“…those were different times….”
Why is it a big issue that Osho (an indian unmarried man in his thirties) invited an educated woman with same profession as he was who’d turned up with her all travel luggage to see him?
Maybe she did not have accommodation. It is Indian way of hospitality to welcome unexpected guest. Most normal Indians are heart-oriented people. But some hotels have rules.
Acharya never demanded anything. He, himself, would visit the ladies, married or unmarried, when he knew he would be welcomed.
Ladies in his room? In that time, I guess, only Kranti had the pleasure.
Cheers!
By way of information, this Hindi booklet was, as I recall, reprinted in an English booklet, and called ‘Seeds of Revolution’, but I welcome any comment on my memory. A pic of the cover of the original in English would be uplifting.
Let me share some religious background from where Osho took his flight.
My reverence for Him is for the reason he is the one of our time who dared to create His own path. Though this path has lost the direction and almost merged with the mainstream religion, but it is not because of Osho but the management in the foreigners’* hands, who have fucking no idea where Osho came from. Majority of them have not even visited the roots of Osho, the earth, water and air of that area which gave birth to rebellious spirit.
(*I don´t mind if truth and facts get condemnation of being called racist).
Jains may be the richest in India but their population is just around 4 million in a country of 1.25 billion. Sikhs are 20 million and Hindus are almost 900 millions. Now imagine, a man with a mission is born in a Jaina family to create new spiritual path in a country where boundaries and walls among religions are barricaded. Just imagine!
Just imagine how many people dare to create not just firms and companies but religious path and that too by criticising the other paths!
Shantam said. 30 July, 2017 at 12:50 pm:
“Though this path (of Osho) has lost the direction and almost merged with the mainstream religion.”
Now what can Shantam mean by this?
What Shantam actually means by this is that just as he can’t walk into a Christian or Sikh establishment, or Hindu for that matter, pick up a young woman to have sex with, particularly a young western woman, he also can’t do that at the ashram in Poona. Ergo the Ashram in Poona is now part of traditional religion.
Here at Osho Viha we have 3 copies of ‘Seeds of Revolution’ for sale. The book is 227 pages, in English.
There is one other story from the life of Osho, for me, more inspiring than this one. It must be plus or minus one or two years, 1970.
G.D. Birla, one of the top three Indian industrialists of that era, hands over Osho a blank cheque, so much he was impressed by Osho´s discourse delivery. Before Osho reacts to see such a gesture, Mr. Birla utters, “You can fill any amount to use for the reformation and expansion of Hindu Dharma.”
To hear this, Osho gives back cheque politely or tore it like piece of paper and says, “How come you got the idea I want to work for the reformation and expansion of Hindu Dharma?”
Conversation can be bit different. Most probably, Birla and Acharya never met again.
Through this story I am also answering Arpana´s post written in his not usual style of aggressive defence.
The way Sannyas management has taken a turn, Osho´s work has become a small shelf in the expanded Hinduism, the mainstream religion of master´s homeland.
There is not a single Hindu ashram, place of worship anywhere in the world offering daily meditation, let alone Osho’s dynamic techniques, plus meditation techniques updated by Osho from many other traditions; psychotherapy groups from various disciplines, refined by Osho; and showing a video of Osho giving discourse on a daily basis.