The Rising Moon

Shanti rightly lauded this very early video in a recent string.

Here is what we could find below.

Some of the SN collective were there at some of these events.

One is reminded that Osho is/was an energetic phenomenon, and a small minority of people around Osho in 74/75  did seem aware of this.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20506164rxgDn6rp

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36 Responses to The Rising Moon

  1. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    Thank you, Shanti,
    Thank you, Parmartha.

    Thanks to Existence, still allowing me to “come, yet again come” (Be).

    Love,

    Madhu

  2. swamishanti says:

    I don`t know if it`s just my computer, but the video qaulity of the recording above is not that good.

    I think I got the video from Osho Purnima distribution, years ago, but Osho Viha also now stock a dvd of this:
    http://www.oshoviha.org/p-1562-the-rising-moon-dvd

  3. simond says:

    i love Osho, yet feel nothing when I watch this old film.

    Madhu remembers and sees old faces and sentimentalises, whereas all I see is past. Dead past. Ancient history.

    The master provided a clear message to me: to drop the past, however beautiful it appears, to live for the moment and to live for now.

    Take what he offered and make it your own. The age of the fatherly master, with whom you could live through is gone. Let it be. Why are we still not hearing him?

    • swamishanti says:

      I guess that watching footage of a master whom one loves/had loved can stir the heart, and listening to music, if it resonates with you, is also a gateway into the present moment, and so it also has a meditative quality to it.

    • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

      “Why are we still not hearing him?”

      How do you know, Simond, to come to that conclusion about all and everybody (besides you)?

      As far as I am concerned, any contribution referring to that which Parmartha calls an “energy phenomenon” are most welcome. More so, when what we call our body-mind-soul is responding with joy and that joy is HERE-NOW. Always.

      And otherwise, through such ´compilations’ (and btw, I loved that it is technically not at all perfect, to say the least), I am/was given a chance to broaden understanding.

      You know, I´ve been quite stuck inside the day before with especially
      Prem Martyn´s, but also Satyadeva´s or Arpana´s quite clear response commentaries, which are pretty correct on other levels.

      Whatever opens my heart again, Simond, is good. That´s how I feel about it. And who knows, if that is allowing me to BE in the present moment?

      You can´t forecast that – me neither.

      A wonderful sky today here, sapphire blue, not much of a cloud to watch, just the vapour trails of aeroplanes, vanishing slowly, reminding us that traffic is going on, superficially crowding, likewise in that tiny little bit we can/are able to be aware of the sky.

      And the sky is vast, we cannot comprehend but BE part of it. On Earth.

      Madhu

      P.S:
      The talk of ‘someone or something is dead’ is mostly an egotistical way to put it, isn´t it?
      As that ‘someone or something is dead’ does not mean that it is ´dead´for others. But just changing forms.

    • shantam prem says:

      Simond, I don´t know what you do on the Christmas eve, but if by chance you celebrate this day with your parents and grandparents, please don´t be wise to spoil the moods by saying, “The master provided a clear message to me: to drop the past, however beautiful it appears, to live for the moment and to live for now.”

      • satyadeva says:

        What a monumentally stupid, gratuitously irrelevant post. Or perhaps Shantam thinks it’s funny?

        In fact, in certain circumstances saying something like that might be exactly the best thing to do, both for the one who says it and his/her interlocutors, if too much sentimental bullshine about ‘the past’ is going down, to bring a taste of ‘reality’ to the proceedings.

    • samarpan says:

      “Take what he offered and make it your own.”

      Doesn’t each sannyasin do this in his or her own way, Simon? For you, perhaps, it is to take what Osho offered and then drop sannyas and the whole master/disciple paradigm. For others, the response will be different.

      You are perfectly welcome to your response (especially since you say you “feel nothing” upon watching the video) – Osho is apparently not your Master (yet by moving on you claim you are the one who has heard Osho correctly). To each his own. You are doing the right thing to move in your own way. Let others do the same.

      “The age of the fatherly master, with whom you could live through is gone.”

      If this is so for you, Simon, more power to you. Walk on, make your own path. Why do you bother about what others are doing? Why do you judge others as being “stuck” if they continue in the master/disciple paradigm?

      Some of us do feel something watching this video. You say “I love Osho”, but are you in love with Osho? It is so wonderful to be in love. This love is not imagination or “emotion” or delusion (those could not be sustained for 35 years) – it is a cool and deep passion. Whatever it is, may this ecstasy never end! Jai, Osho!

      “Let it be.”

      Yes, please, let those sannyasins who are deeply in love with Osho continue…without needing to preach to them about how antiquated their chosen path is, as if nobody needs a Master in the 21st century, as if the Master/disciple game is over. Perhaps for you the game is over. For others, the game continues, full of amazement and wonder.

      It has only been about 35 years since I fell in love with Osho, but for me the love I feel has only grown in its immensity. For me, neo-Sannyas is alive and well and is characterized by continued growth and exploration.

      My love for Osho does not preclude admiration for Mother Meera, Amma, Adyashanti, etc. – or any of the thousands of teachers I admire on this planet in this incarnation. I enjoy them all!

      But, for me, Osho is not a teacher…he is incomparable…a Master of Masters.

      For me, with all the hundreds of other teachers I have come across there is respect, there is admiration, there may be agreement with what is being taught, there is enjoyment…but there is not a heart connection. There is not a soaring of the heart anywhere near the feeling of being crazy in love. There is not ecstasy.

      Have you ever felt hopelessly in love, Simon? For me, that feeling has only happened with Osho and continues right now, right here, in a cool and enduring passion.

      YMMV, as they say. Samasati, Simon.

      MOD: WHAT’S “YMMV”, SAMARPAN?

      • shantam prem says:

        “I love Osho”
        “I love Osho” –
        People who tattoo “I love Osho” on their chest won´t take a bullet in case it is needed.

        If Osho gets kidnapped by a magician and left in the freezing cold in a castle, “I love Osho” people won´t take the life-threatening adventure to make Him free.

        “I love Osho” breed of people seems to be those who get mesmerized by the spoken and written words of Osho. There must be innumerable people who feel, “I love you, Adele”. It is no wonder, just in 2 months her latest song, ‘Hello’, has been played 806,560,715 times just at youtube.

        “I love Osho”, “I love Adele” – other than the alphabets in the name, rest is the same.

        Isn’t it?

        • Arpana says:

          Do share with us some more of your potato wisdom, Shantam.

        • Arpana says:

          Don’t pay any attention to him, Samarpan. Shantam is just jealous because Tan gave you some positive feedback.

        • satyadeva says:

          “If Osho gets kidnapped by a magician and left in the freezing cold in a castle, “I love Osho” people won´t take the life-threatening adventure to make Him free.”

          I suggest that YOU are that ‘trapped’, ‘imprisoned’ person, Shantam, and much of your bitterness concerning ‘the regime’ etc. arises from your own, apparently far from satisfactory situation.

          As such, you’re a classic example of someone who can’t see straight, who can’t see the wood for the trees, your vision handicapped by purely personal issues.

          If your intelligence hadn’t been undermined by overwhelming emotionality you’d see this impediment and its consequences instead of blaming others for their alleged ‘crimes’ and, unconsciously, your own fate.

        • swamishanti says:

          Shantam,

          Why don’t you tattoo “I love Osho” on your forehead, take off your clothes, spread some peanut butter on your balls, and walk down to the gate at Osho International commune?

          This is bound to attract the attention of local media and further your cause.

      • Tan says:

        Yes, Samarpan. Many of us feel what are you saying…Spot on! Good that you bothered to explain, I would just tell them to sod off! Have a wonderful day! XXX

      • satyadeva says:

        Samarpan, just curious…
        Did you play cricket for the sannyasin team in Regent’s Park, in the 80s?).

        • satyadeva says:

          If you are that Samarpan, then, of course, I agree with everything you say.

          If not, it’s a load of utter codswallop!

            • shantam prem says:

              Satyadeva, were you schoolmaster in one of your past lives or in this life? Schoolmasters are as efficient as you to find spelling mistakes in a well-written prose. Schoolmasters never write anything out of their own. Education department has instructed them to stay with the prescribed syllabus.

              I have read quite a lot of English literature, never came across a single story or novel written by any headmaster or any head of the department of English Literature. These people know only how to comment on the work of others.

      • Tan says:

        I hope YMMV means:
        You Muppet Moron Vapid talker.

      • samarpan says:

        YMMV = Your mileage may vary.

  4. Kavita says:

    The black hair & beard dyed and the later funny cap & robe seems to be so unnatural to me, I love Osho in his white robe with his greys the best!

    This video was one of first videos I bought from the bookshop in Poona. Somebody borrowed it & later didn’t return it, I learned a lesson though through this: ‘Once you lend something, don’t expect it back!’

    Anyway, thank you for sharing this, SN.

  5. Tan says:

    Thank you, Shanti, and thank you, Big P. What a lovely Christmas gift! For sure, it enchanted my day! XX

  6. shantam prem says:

    Not as a boasting but as a fact, I am one of those in now fast disappearing, Neo-Sannyas ‘Cult’, who has seen this video and similar videos maximum number of times, and that too at the ‘Black House’, the global head quarters of Osho.

    From 1988 till 2004, whenever I was in Pune, my maximum working hours were in the Welcome Centre. Such videos were played on daily basis, sometimes few times in a day. As a host, it was important to watch few minutes with the group of guests.

    It was never a boring experience, many times a feeling of deep contentment of being with the right people at the right place at the right time.

    While living at any floor of a building or on the penthouse, we never see but feel the power of the foundation which holds the building. Similar is with the tree. Readers of this post can look around the trees in their surroundings.

    Every faraway branch is part of the living organism, the deep roots don´t make any distinction. The farthest branches too are part of the same whole.

    As a first generation disciple, it is my job to ask how come the rising moon became full moon and ended up as Bitter Moon.

    The bitter moon analogy is fitting because such videos have become taboo at youtube or daily motion kind of two most important web sharing sites.

    Is ‘The Rising Moon’ a kind of porn therefore deleted by the site owners? No, the organisation operating in the name of bearded man in this video don´t like such stupid and dead past.

    And me being part of such cult where bosses decide at the cost of disciples, I will say, “Fuck off from my life and take your personal Messiah with!”

  7. prem martyn says:

    Aaaaaaaahhhhhh….

  8. prem martyn says:

    For our closet bargain basement writer, a special Xmas greeting….

  9. prem martyn says:

    “Egads, Watson, ol’ chap…it’s Christmas 2015.”

    The story so far…
    Not even the evil Moriarty can stop the linking of an Indian name, a famous detective, and the beloved game…

    “I say, Holmes, top hole…What a sporting deed, sir.”
    “Merry Xmas, Watson, and a most felicitous New Year.”

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