(Please Note that SN does not share the views of Sw Premgeet, but we see no reason to suppress his views.)
A letter from Sw. Premgeet (Yogesh Thakkar)
Final Call: Now or Never
Friends,
In continuing efforts to make Osho’s work available in the Public Domain since 2012, various court cases in High Court, Civil Court, Police Department and the Office of the Charity Commissioner are pending against the administrators and trustees of Osho Commune Pune.
The present trustees and administrators are Mr. Michael Byrne (O’Byrne) alias Swami Jayesh, Mr. Mukesh Kantilal Sarda alias Sw. Mukesh Bharti, Mr. D’Arcy O’Byrne alias Swami Raj / Yogendra, Dr. John Andrews, alias Dr. George Meredith alias Swami Amrito, Mr. Klaus Steeg alias Swami Pramod and others.
So far, we are going ahead with positive results restricting said administrators from damaging Osho’s work and siphoning properties and funds of the charitable foundation into their private companies in huge amounts. Their restrictive policies are hurting the rights of Osho’s disciples to even enter Osho Samadhi.
While observing the performance of our efforts we find that there still are some areas on which we need to focus more in order to bring real change to the Osho Commune Pune. A few of such points are mentioned below.
1. The said administrators are wasting lots of time, money and energy in the court cases on the ‘Technicalities’ (wasting valuable resources of Osho Commune and Foundations.) We’re sure that if they would come straight to the facts of the cases, they can’t be sustained for more than 10 minutes!
2. We’re of the opinion that the results could be quicker and time saving when disciples and friends of Osho actively participate and protest. The process of Change would speed up when each disciple of Osho claims his /her rights in the Osho Commune. Surprisingly, only three persons are restricting thousands of Osho disciples from entering Osho Samadhi & Commune!
3. This happened when the members of Inner Circle which Osho had created started withdrawing their obligations under good reasons.
The members of the Inner Circle, secretaries, care takers and mediums had deserted Osho’s work and submitted before the wrong doers. Hence Osho’s work has been gradually been compromised to a point of destruction. (Except for a few friends like Neelam, Ramateertha, Anand Atul, Chaitanya Keerti, Satya Vedant and others who are trying to bring Osho in the Public Domain and save His work.)
4. Osho has created this Buddha Field, working hard for more than 40 years. (However He calls himself a lazy man!) At this time, when you don’t do anything to protect it, you are actually indirectly allowing it to die. When you are sick or your property or financial interests are threatened, you do something about it, right? (If you are enlightened and would not care to protect your personal interests then, effectively, you may opt out of this obligation for Osho as well!)
I would like to ask two simple questions to all the friends and especially the members of the Inner Circle, ex trustees and friends who are concerned about Osho:
• Do you find any justification valid enough to let Osho’s work being damaged to its present conditions? The way it’s going on, Osho ‘s unique work will be completely destroyed – sooner than you think.
• Are you satisfied that you have been attending the obligations Osho relied upon you? With or without any justifications and excuses! (However, Osho said that our main responsibly is to be a ‘light unto yourself’.)
When we’re discussing this matter with many friends, I hear from them:
• I have worked enough in the Osho Commune, now let other people do it.
• I am already doing Osho ‘s work in different areas such as conducting groups or meditation camps or something else.
• I don’t have time and energy.
• I am getting old!
• Or some words from Osho’s books such as “everything born in time will die one day” – so let this place die its own death? “Osho wanted this to happen,” or “free of attachments” etc etc.
However, if you still feel that something can be done to save Osho Samadhi and His work, please contact us. When we open our hearts and open the gates of the Commune, many friends will come and help. We just need to create a pool of Osho friends and give them an opportunity to contribute. This chance of doing something may not be available always. Hence it’s Now or Never.
PS: If you could give 1% of your energy for a while, we can save Osho’s work!
Yogesh Thakkar (Swami Premgeet)
Email: oshofriendspune@gmail.com – www.oshowork.or
Swami Prem Geet, I am speaking totally for myself. I came to Osho’s Commune & was never interested in the Inner Circle & their activities. I did have a friend who later became a neighbour, is connected to the Inner Circle through family, but I have never been interested or shown any interest in that area during conversations & otherwise, as I cannot connect with this aspect of anyone’s personal life.
Osho’s Work is a very relative term. I would like to share that initially when all this/that change started in the Commune in the late 90s of the last century, it affected me in some way, even though I had been part of it in a very small way since I was not fully financially dependent on the Commune, so probably it was easier to come out of it.
But I do remember there were times when there was rebellion from within the commune members. Ma Neelam & Swami Kirti always seemed to be on the Management’s side and I somehow still think if these persons were persistent enough when they were inside the premises they could have stopped this state that they & some sannyasins claim to be in.
Anyway, ‘All the Best’ to both the teams. As for me if any team wins/loses, it shall always in any case be a loss.
“As for me, if any team wins/loses, it shall always in any case be a loss.”
Yes, Kavita, I am with you with that and with the ´Tears of a Clown’.´
And yes, Kavita : All the Best for everybody present Here-Now.
And thank you for your contribution.
Madhu
Thank you too, Madhu .
Parmartha, the editor-in-chief,
My first impression is not about the merits and demerits of the case and PremGeet´s passionate plea, I am touched by your objectivity to give space to each and every component of a complex puzzle called Osho´s legacy.
I think this broadminded approach is an evolution of European mind. If Sannyas does not incorporate this capacity to resolve issues through diplomatic and democratic ways in the management affairs and think dead Daddy is sending sms to whosoever is the boss then I think Sannyas will be known as Tap water filled in Evian bottles.
I doubt whether this is really a “final plea”!
An exasperated man, this Premgeet. The dispute about those few acres of land will go on for ever I should think!
Do you have a reliable photo, Shantam, of Premgeet? Post it here if you do!
Madhu’s sentiment is good. We are all winners in this game, as we found Osho, somehow or other, in this mad world.
As it happens, SP, I have been a democratic socialist since 1963! I think democracy is very hard work, and certainly does not come easily to human beings; that’s why most of the world is basically living in tyranny.
I don’t think that Osho saw his organisation as one that should follow democratic lines – in that he may have been mistaken. What eventually went down in his name would not have happened had it been.
I think every Britisher knows till now about a well-funded childcare charity lead by a fat woman wearing headgear (Name of the charity I have forgotten, the founder is an Iranian immigrant), which was asked to close the accounts after summary trial.
I can say with 101% judicial surety, Osho Foundation International would have got the similar end if operating their NGO business from UK Soil.
God is very compassionate to crooked-minded if they operate from India.
Your post, Parmartha, I will reply to after the dinner.
“The dispute about those few acres of land will go on for ever I should think!”
17,Koregaon Park, Pune and adjoining property is not just a prime real estate, it is a labour of love co-operative property developed by a master and His disciples from around the globe. This property has sentimental as well as spiritual dimensions.
Western mind who pays in millions for used garments of pop divas and others of their cultural icons must appreciate 17, Koregaon Park, Pune as a place of pilgrimage at least.
The way Indian judicial system works, I don´t think issue will be resolved in the lifetime of litigants.
In the end, side of Premgeet will win. Reason is, there is no support for Jayesh. He is a master of spin, his capacity of wheeling and dealing is legendary, there is no one like him in his group, whereas Premgeet is only a front person. Delhi and Dharamshala based Indians are the backbone and money bags and majority of western disciples with resources also are supporting this David v/s Golliah fight.
When I visited first time Pune in 1984, Premgeet and the second-in-command in the cases against Resort, Anadi, were part of the commune. As I am 52 now, I can imagine both must be in their late 50s. These people therefore know all the trade and trust loopholes.
Discourses of Osho look very cool but the property management around Him through various trusts are the brain work of highly professional and shrewd chartered accountants and trust fund lawyers.
When foreigners want to have the complete control over an Indian property, they must use every possible trick to safeguard their interests. The name change from Osho Commune International to Osho International Meditation Resort is one such trick.
Personally, I never had any contact with Premgeet. He is not my type of person. In the commune, one could also see the merger among the races but also the invisible walls among us.
North Indians and Gujratis don´t fit with each other. They have different software. It is like Germans and Britishers. I am living in Germany but I am waiting for the referendum when Britain will say ‘fuck off’ to European Union. I love democracy therefore cannot bear Germany´s tyranny over others.
Same is the situation with Gujrati and Punjabis. Narendra Modi is Gujrati. The CFO of Osho Foundation is also a Gujrati. One can imagine how clever they are to attract power.
The Delhi group is dominated by hardcore Punjabis and very cultured Gujratis. This tenacity will bleed Resort´s drying financial resources. India, being the land of epic war Mahabharata, teaches clearly it is unavoidable to avoid war when both sides become adamant.
Personally, I have more respect and love for Jayesh and Amrito in comparison with other group, but in this case of their high handedness, I stand with the underdogs.
During my last Pune visit 4 years ago, when I have made a clumsy video appeal to Jayesh, I also went to visit Premgeet in his flat. After more than 20 years of knowing each other through face-to-face and once in a while casual hello, this meeting was quite heart-to-heart.
I just wanted to convey to him “yours is the just cause and therefore never get tempted by their offers to buy your loyalty or get intimidated by their underarm tactics. May you win. It will be a victory of disciples over the disciples who have become priests.”
Thanks for photo, SP. Which one is Premgeet??
Three wise men…??????
And you know what happened then…
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(Notice a familiar figure at bottom left).
“I doubt whether this is really a “final plea”!”
Yes, Parmartha, very doubtful!
Btw, nice photo!
Ho Ho Ho
Oh, oh! It is Osho’s work! Shantam seems to have, not surprisingly, a lot of juice for this particular thread, so perhaps he would like to share with us his interpretation of what Osho’s work represents to him and also what active part he is playing in it.
Of course, this invitation is open to all who participate on SN. This is not a joke, but it might be, for all I know. Plus, this might get the thread going a little, because right now it sounds like something for Swami Perry Masonji.
What Osho works represent to anybody or for what reason someone went into Osho trap is an interesting theme. It is a psychoanalysis of one´s own life.
I think for this reason, it needs an independent string. Lokesh, create am opening paragraph for a new string from your own life´s journey with Osho.
Now I am thinking how many of us will be honest enough to lay bare their inner personal truth!
Why be worried about Osho’s “work”? There are many Osho centres around the world, and lots of his books are being sold and read, everywhere.
Osho has lit many lamps and the embers are still burning all around the Earth. And this world is only a temporary phenomenon, anyhow. Surely that was his real “work”, to transfer the flame of awareness to whosever is ready to receive. it.
People are pissed off: “Why have they taken all the fucking pictures of him down?”
“What about the absurd entry price?”
“Why have they banned everyone?” etc, etc.
But do sannyasins really need the Poona ashram anymore? Osho has left his body. Yet sannyasins still feel his presence around the world.
More masters will be coming anyhow with similar messages to Osho’s. Similar beards, bald heads. Ashram will get into the hands of Indians at some point, anyhow.
Consciousness is expanding, in this world has a lot to learn.
And then we die.
Soon we will all be changing forms anyhow.
Yahoo!
MOD: Consciousness is expanding, in this world has a lot to learn. PLEASE CLARIFY, SS!
There are many Osho centres around the world; which one you visit, Shanti?
Lots of Osho books are being sold and read everywhere…
Ya…
I am willing to offer 100 euros reward to anyone who shares one single photo of any bookshop around the world where Osho title is displayed on the windows during the Christmas time, when book sales is the maximum.
Sometimes I wonder from where Osho attracted pacifist kind of people. I am ok, you are ok, everything is fine. I also wonder what was missing in the family religion of such pacifist people.
Your capacity for moving goal posts is infinite, but your lack of self-awareness that you are doing that will ensure you never stop, and also ensure your goals will never be reached.
It amazes me why people like Arpana, Shanti, Samarpan, Madhu, who are with Osho from the time of Pune 1 or Rajneeshpuram, are unable to accept the fact, Organism called Osho Sannyas has got infection and virus, self-inflicted injections with some kind of Botox! They have nothing to do with Ronad Reagan or Sheela Birensteil.
I am not an outsider, part of the Sannyas from my formative years. I feel it as my sacred job to point out where something has gone wrong and what are the curative measures.
It pisses that old mind who thinks, when Islam means peace, there won´t be any massacre, at least not from our side. It is all because of Jews and America.
People who unironically refer to themselves as ‘freethinkers’ almost invariably turn out to be the most dogmatic and conceited creeps imaginable.
“I feel it as my sacred job to point out where something has gone wrong and what are the curative measures.”
But you, Shantam, can’t even apply that self-inflated, grandiose-sounding purpose to your own life, let alone to ‘Osho Sannyas’!
Thus you exemplify one of the main causes and symptoms of a radically dysfunctional world:
You think you know what’s best for hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of others, while apparently having little or no idea of who you are (or are not), and while living a personally unsatisfactory life.
First things first, old boy (and remember, one of the first ‘rules’ of self-responsibility is blaming others or ‘circumstances’ for your situation is just a cop-out).
My God…
First you know who you are and then you will know why cough is coming!
I think one needs to take notice of the simplified version of life preached by Indian gurus and repeated by their parrots.
If you want to bring the breach of trust case in the court, you don´t need to know fucking yourself. The capacity to distinguish between facts and fictions is enough.
I agree with the latter part of this post, Shantam. Problem is, you plainly don’t know the difference between fact and fiction, so you really are not in a position to preach.
You will no doubt recall your remarks as follows, and I quote:
“It is a known fact no white sannyasin has ever handled a potato.”
“It is a known fact the egos of all white sannyasins are hurt because Osho is an Indian.”
Your astonishing statement that you have a skill set that makes you particularly suited to running the ashram.
Just a few of the reasons you have no credibility, why nothing you write has any credibility.
Spot on, Arps.
Shantam, your belief that you’re in any way ‘qualified’ to have a major influence on the future of ‘Osho’s Sannyas’ is as pure a piece of self-concocted “fiction” as one is likely to ever come across!
Unfortunately for you (and for everyone else who has to suffer your absurdities) you are unable to perceive this simple “fact”, obvious to all but yourself.
Yes, it might be true that any fool like you can start a legal action. But that in no way implies the purity or ‘rightness’ of motive of the individual concerned and in your case, Shantam, the latter is highly questionable, your motivation arising from a purely personal discontent with your own life, together with a misplaced dream based on a flawed conception that it’s possible to restore the dead past, to make everything ‘all right’ again, as it was in ‘the good old days’.
Which, to be blunt, for you fundamentally means the possibility, however remote, of ‘free’ sex with willing young foreign ladies, hopefully eventually finding a wife, does it not?!
It seems that’s basically what’s ‘running’ you, plus a fervent wish for the usual collective Indian traditional routine of formal religious observances, worship of the guru etc. etc. in order for you not to feel so much like the ‘fish out of water’ you have been for a long time (not to mention the prospect of getting ‘revenge’ on those whom you – wrongly – hold responsible for much of your own purely personal discontent, the ‘ashram regime’).
In a way, one can perhaps understand where you’re coming from, the unhappiness with your lot, the otherwise apparent almost total lack of purpose in your life, but trying to mask these self-ish reasons behind a self-created façade of “sacred duty” is the stuff of self-ignorance – where fact and fiction are indeed badly confused.
At least attempting to see oneself clearly is the very name of this game you’re allegedly in, but so often, Shantam, it seems you just can’t be bothered, preferring to trust your aberrant emotions, that are anyway likely to lead you astray, based as they largely are, on personal unhappiness.
That’s why you get so much criticism here – and why you’ll almost certainly say I’m talking a load of irrelevant rubbish!
“I am willing to offer 100 euros reward to anyone who shares one single photo of any bookshop around the world where Osho title is displayed on the windows during the Christmas time, when book sales is the maximum.”
Shantam, as far as Osho books being sold in the window at Christmas time in the West, dream on!
But it just reflects the consciousness of the society as a whole. You may have to wait a long time before we have Osho books in the windows; even other spiritual seekers have difficulty accepting Osho as a genuine ‘enlightened’ being, controversial as he was.
People are much more interested in Eastenders than Enlightenment, anyhow.
Didn`t Osho state that it would take a couple of hundred years for his teachings to be understood by the masses, or something like that?
I have seen many Osho books being sold at all of the Indian railway stations, alongside books on Sri Ramakrishna, Shankara, etc. And those books always have a nice picture of Osho on the cover, the way that they used to, unlike the bland new style without the photo of Osho which the present Resort management is publishing.
I haven`t been to the Resort or the Ashram since 1989, so I cannot judge myself about the changes that have been made, but I gather that a lot of people are fed up.
I understand that you prefer the ashram set-up as it was in the late eighties and early nineties, Shantam. Perhaps you could take some sort of direct action at the Resort, to try to change things?
I would suggest creating some kind of scene outside the main gate, some street art perhaps (ever tried using those coloured pastels?) or you could go wearing a big cardboard cut-out sign on yourself, a placard, with whatever message you want to display printed on it in large letters.
That would catch the attention of the local media and draw attention to your cause. You would probably end up in the local newspaper.
Or perhaps you could go and join some folks who have similar ideas to you about the way that the place should be run, like Swami Rajneesh and his chums in Mexico.
This letter reads like an exercise in manipulation:
“The process of Change would speed up when each disciple of Osho claims his/her rights in the Osho Commune.”
What rights? When were sannyasins given rights? And who gave them?
It was always my understanding that taking Sannyas required wearing a mala, orange and adopting a new name. When I accepted these rules I cannot recall being told in return that I now had certain ‘rights.’
It’s popular these days to hear about all manner of rights being infringed. I see a similar strategy being employed here to arouse a false sense of injustice.
I recalled on SN, some time ago, how I was once ‘sniffed out’ of the morning lecture (presumably as some kind of warning for me refusing to take part in a bogus marriage). I remember being exceptionally annoyed, more so because I was told to sit in an area which located me much closer to Bhagwan than I would have sat. Hence making a mockery of his supposed allergies.
I know that if I had stood up during the discourse to remonstrate with Osho about my unjust humiliation, he would have simply answered, “Did I ask you to be a sannyasin?”
Meditating over this answer may be useful before anyone complains about anything. And I would suggest that the disgruntled Sikh meditates over it the most.
“It was always my understanding that taking Sannyas required wearing a mala, orange and adopting a new name. When I accepted these rules I cannot recall being told in return that I now had certain ‘rights’”
Swami Anand Anubodh, I am picking up a deep humour (even a pretty special English one) in these, your lines. And yes, indeed, it´s worth to go inside with it and recapture memories of big or small ´river-boat shuttles’ and also the one or other ‘swim’.
Just came home from an afternoon ride on the bike, I was stalked then on the last few metres before ‘home-base’. The sky today, like always, deep and marvellous, full moon rising.
Humans, in their actions, are – and are not – of this quality. Sometimes looking as if they would ask: “Did we ask you to live here and rent a flat?”
With what I want to say, as long as we are living in this body we will have to deal with inter-connectedness, and it’s quite all right to have feelings of all kinds about that. Especially when we are feeling helpless and exploited and harassed.
Well, thanks for your deep and complex reminder, Anubodh.
Nobody said that ´Sannyas Interrelating’ is gonna be a rose garden without thorns, or really so different from the market-place.
On the contrary, I feel (and also heard Him say, the experience in the communal living has been a pressure cooker, while the so-called market place (sometimes!) is a pressure cooker too. In my case, for quite a while even more so.
Madhu
P.S. to my response to Anubodh:
It’s needed to add to my response, I guess, that some gang stalkers here entertain ´piratical’ intruding by IT – hacking my private space to the fullest, and like to ´play´ a lot then.
And as far back as I recall, former ´Sannyas-Relating’ has been face-to-face – uncomfortable or comfortable, or being still TOGETHER or touching each other, if that happened.
More fair it was in former times. Wasn´t it?
Don’t know what people really thought about the ‘sniffing’. Not so bad to use simple soap, I thought. Wonder if it can be still bought?!
My view is that it was really a device not about ‘smells’, but energy. Why those who sniffed felt that they ‘knew’ what was good energy, or bad, seemed crazy to me; if they felt they could ascertain the difference, maybe they themselves should have been sniffed out.
Osho was in an American dormitory jail for a few days in Charlotte in 1985. The smells from other human beings there would have been awful. But neither he nor anyone else seems to have mentioned it, as I recall?
“It was always my understanding that taking Sannyas required wearing a mala, orange and adopting a new name.” (Swami Anand Anubodh)
Hmmm…I remember the name was optional, you could keep your given name. What I remember were these three things: 1) wearing a mala, 2) orange, and 3) meditation.
Later, Osho said the orange and mala were optional…that only meditation remained as the essential part of neo-Sannyas.
Hello Samarpan,
Yes, I agree, the name became optional. But not in 1975, my year of Sannyas.
Later, when large numbers started to arrive, I reckon the option to keep your own name was pragmatism (as the Indian ones were starting to run out).
I am surprised that you are not more concerned with the obvious manipulation of sannyasins in Premgeet’s letter. Unless, of course, you believe taking Sannyas gives you rights.
If you do, then please post what those rights are. (And who told you).
The problem with metaphysical religion is that it tries to give pregnant significance to nothing at all. It cannot stand the mundane and tries to turn uselessness into transfixation.
Not giving a toss is a supreme talent accessible by all. It’s also shareable and very, very real and existential
There are, of course, things to give a toss about
but they are too bloody obvious and demanding.
So we take up not giving a toss by giving it a name of ‘enquiry’ and realising that even if we didn’t give a toss about it, it really wouldn’t be noticeable anyway. Unless you are a born tosser, in which case nothing can help you.
Tell me if I’ve got something wrong here…but I’m thinking that there’s one thing Gurus, their cohorts, Kings and Queens & their courtiers, Popes and their flockers, fanaticals and their fan base, politicians and their polling spin doctors all have in common (& online bloggers and bloggereers)…
They never apologise.
For anything
Ever
That they actually got or get wrong.
Ever.
A bit like a nightmare dysfunctional relationship.
But with less fucking to make up for the missing bits.
Or just being fucked, and you know you’re alone with it.
Festive tip: Avoid.
“Seeing me in difficulty, a man offered me his hut, saying, “You can stay here for the time being.” I have never been in such a poor place in my whole life. Not only poor, but utterly dirty, stinking. The man used to sell kerosene oil, so it was really awful. He offered me a bed for the night – the bed was smelling of kerosene oil and nothing else.
I could not turn over, because to keep my nose as far away from the bed as possible, the only position was just to lie down straight and look up. But I enjoyed it really – remaining in the same position, looking at the roof, the stink of the kerosene oil all around, bedbugs, mosquitoes…everything that you could conceive to make a man suffer. I laughed.
The man was on the veranda. He said, “What is the matter? Why are you laughing?”
I said, “I am laughing because of this little experience of hell. I have always been intending to go to hell; this is a good training! And I promise you that once in a while, whenever I pass through here, I will be your guest.”
He said, “I was afraid, because although I do this business, the stink is so much that even after doing it for years I have not become accustomed to it. The mosquitoes are so big, the bedbugs are there; and I can see you are not even lying on your side. I know the reason,” he said, “but I am sorry. I don’t have anything else to offer to you.”
I said, “Don’t be sorry. I am rejoicing in the whole experience. It is so new to me, and everything that is new is a great adventure and excitement.”
Next day, when I was leaving, he asked me, “Are you really thinking of coming back again?”
I said, “Certainly.” And I went to his hut at least four times. Whenever I passed through there, I always stopped at the wrong stop, reached the hut. And the man could not believe it: “Either you are crazy, or something…because now you know where to get down. The first time it was a mistake, but why are you doing it again and again?”
I said, “I am not making any mistake – I enjoyed that night so much. I could not sleep at all, and I had had no experience of bedbugs, mosquitoes. It is always good to be acquainted with new people. One never knows where one will end up…New acquaintance is always good. And your kerosene oil makes me feel I am in hell. I don’t know whether there is any hell or not, but I don’t want to miss any experience. Perhaps there is no hell after life; then I will have had this experience. And I am immensely grateful to you.”
Whatever happens, you can always look into it and find something really precious. Now, once in a while sleeping on my back, looking up, I remember and I laugh. That experience has made all my life’s nights far more beautiful. Now the comparison exists. Before it there was no comparison, it was stale: no bedbugs, no mosquitoes, no kerosene….
I don’t regret, I don’t feel that it should have been otherwise. No, whatever has been should have been exactly the same as it has been. And I am perfectly happy with every act and with every consequence, because everything has been a tremendous teaching. It is just that you have to change your outlook, and the whole of life becomes a terrific drama.
And you are not victims, you are just actors in it. You can keep your witness untouched by whatever happens. And the witness knows no regret, the witness cannot say, “I am sorry.”
Osho, ‘From Bondage to Freedom’ (ch. 42)
Festive tip:
Do not avoid. Go headlong fully into the Mystery. Try witnessing yourself, especially in situations that, viewed from the outside, seem to be hellish. Then laugh…and be a joke unto yourself.
Oh, so you need scriptural authority for experience – from above? You need to re-define abuse as well then, mate, whilst editing the emotive responsibility dictionary.
Deference by internal sabotage? Have you considered re-writing newspaper headlines too? Or do you prefer obsequious group rooms and imposed screwed relating in the name of the father, son and holy moly?
I love laptops…it’s a great game for all the dysfunctional family. At Xmas.
P.S:
Role modelling generic abstract answers means you miss a go and have to talk from your own experience and extrapolate from there, for yourself though. Sorry. No, really, rules are rules, sorry mate…it says so in the book.
Crackers, anyone?
Of course, as it’s Pantomime season in the UK, you can now all join in with the refrain, ”Oh no it isn’t”, to which you receive the reply, “Oh yes it is”. This then goes on for several more exchange (which I’d be glad if someone could find a good Yuletide Xmassy panto clip for).
Merry Xmas -
”Oh yes it is.”
”Oh no it isn’t.”
Etc. etc. etc.
Osho is alive in hundred of thousands hearts around the globe. This aliveness is passing on to friends and next generations! No way to stop this! Even if you burn all books, audios, videos, samadhis from Osho! One dip in the Ocean called Osho is enough!
And who knows, my feeling is Osho’s message will get stronger when it is passed on without books, audios videos or samadhis: Om Mani Padme Hum: The jewel is inside; pass it on straight from heart to heart…because who is the owner of this divine energy called SELF? RIGHT!
So I wish that you, Devageet, will enjoy this fight till you drop it and see Om Mani Padme Hum! The treasure is inside and has always been!
MOD: RE LAST PARAGRAPH, YOU MEAN Prem Geet (NOT Deva Geet) SURELY?!
The best words I ever read after Osho left his body were the words:
“The question was, would be intelligent enough to understand that the question was all the time our own presence? He is, anyway, present.”
The words were from Amrito.
One day, it touched my heart very deep when Osho said: “Do it not with me”. The work has been always an inner work. “A journey hand-in-hand”, Osho said. We ARE Osho!
MOD: ROSHANI, PLEASE CLARIFY:
LINE 2: would OR who would?
LAST PARAGRAPH: “Do it not with me” – IS THIS ACCURATE? WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
Roshani, can you tell about yourself, if it’s ok with you? & where, when & which Amrito said, “The question was, would be intelligent enough to understand that the question was all the time our own presence? He is, anyway, present.” ?