Mexican Osho Commune Created by Swami Rajneesh

Dhyanraj talks about the new project of Ozen Swami Rajneesh

Ozen Swami Rajneesh is a disciple and devotee of our beloved master Osho. His vision is to create an oasis, a meditative space for Osho meditations, groups and therapy training courses. It is also planned to give space to creative arts, crafts, music, dance, yoga, massage, and silent retreats.
The difference with other centres or holistic venues is that the meditation events and groups will be offered by the commune for free. All a participant would need to pay is for the rental of a room (inside or outside the commune) and food (offered at cost price). Naturally, any participant who wishes to do so can give a donation to contribute to the running of the commune.
The property that has been purchased consists of 50 acres in the midst of a tropical forest and has a cenote, a sacred Mayan lake. It is located 7 km from the sea, 8 km from the next town called Playa del Carmen, and 40 km from Cancun International Airport.
The plan of this eco-village is conceived in the shape of a mystical Mayan circle with the cenote at its centre, surrounded by beautiful tropical gardens through which run walking paths in stone or wood planks for silent zazen and zen walking.
Plans have been designed for 88 residences plus 18 different separate communal and public structures such as: Buddha Hall, Welcome Centre, traditional palapas with thatched roofs made of dried palm leaves for meditation and dance, an Art Centre and an Art Gallery, a hall for martial arts and a building for Vipassana meditation, events, therapy and groups rooms. To relax and enjoy the luxury, a natural swimming pool meandering through the forest is under construction, final touches are being given to a massage centre plus spa, Asian and Italian restaurants, a bakery, a juice bar and a café.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSWeozOPQbs

Great importance is given to the gardens. 3000 orchids have been planted and a variety of over 6000 plants and fruit trees; the gardens are already blossoming and growing. A new way of watering with sprinklers on trees which spray mist, and as a bonus create beautiful rainbows in the forest, have been designed and implemented. One of the concerns is that everyone respects and protects the natural forest environment: trees have been conserved and keep on growing in the midst of several buildings (and some are even growing through their roofs!).‘

 

The Progress so far
2012-mid 2013: a team of 30 sannyasins from all over the world worked to complete federal requirements of property land titles, topography, bio and environmental impact studies, government application for the project approvals.
2013: completion of the master plan for electric, hydraulic and sanitation studies, structural engineering, and architecture design.
2014: urban development and municipality license and approvals received for the development of the eco-village.
2014-2015: project development and construction together with 4 local contractors and 100 Mexican workers along with 40-50 sannyasin residents and volunteers. Sannyasins and friends have come together from USA, Canada, UK, Russia, Romania, Ukraine, Czech, Denmark, Holland, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Ireland, Italy, India, Afghanistan, Mexico, Argentina, Korea, Vietnam, China… a truly diverse meeting of unique individuals.

The commune opened in November, 2015. The general public and casual visitors are welcome to come and participate in all activities. Entrance will be free. Food is prepared by sannyasins and residents, and will be offered at cost.
The 88 available residences have already been sold to sannyasins (at cost) and they can be rented out to visitors (through the Ozen community desk). Visitors can stay for any period of time, subject to house availability. It is also easy to find inexpensive houses to rent in the touristic Playa del Carmen area, a few miles from the commune. (To become a permanent resident is, at least at present, no longer possible.)
The best time to visit Ozen Cocom is from October through to April with tropical and pleasant temperatures of 10-25 degrees, while it will be hotter in summer with rains in June and July.

 

A dream come true
Reading this article almost gives the impression that it was all free sailing, but it has been a 5-year herculean effort not only for Rajneesh but also for the many volunteers who have put in their hours and money. It has been a difficult journey; capital investment has been huge, financial losses and risks have been great, climbing mountains and treading rocky pathways… yet the unwavering focus was there to create the dream of a free Osho commune.
Even Rajneesh’s heart attack in 2013 and the harsh construction conditions did not deter them from going on.
But now here there is a space for all of us to flower, This very place – The lotus paradise!

Dhyanraj-and-Rajneesh

Ozen Rajneesh, on the right, originally from Bombay, India, became a sannyasin when he was 18 years old. His talks (‘spontaneous gossips’) given over three years have been compiled in 6 playful books, some of his quotes in 4 books, and his journey as a sannyasin was published as ‘Tears of the Mystic Rose’ (translated in 14 languages and downloaded by over 2 million)
Satyam Dhyanraj, on the left, grew up in northern England where he studied art. He took sannyas from Osho in March 1981 in Pune. He met Rajneesh in the late eighties at Rajneesh Ashram in Pune and connected with him again on one of his India tours in 2009. Since then has been involved in helping his work in various ways, such as transcribing his event videos for books, as well as creating artwork and woodwork for the commune.

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244 Responses to Mexican Osho Commune Created by Swami Rajneesh

  1. Arpana says:

    Small point of order:

    This is the second time I have seen the claim that this set-up is free, and the point of that claim is to say this is superior to the way the Ashram in Poona is funded.

    However, this set-up is not free.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but the project is being paid for from a fortune amassed selling watches, designing watches or something like that, so in fact is being paid for mostly by individuals, indirectly, who are nothing to do with Sannyas.

    • satyadeva says:

      Sounds a wonderful place, credit to them for achieving their dream and I’m sure it’ll be a success.

      Interesting that Rajneesh has included therapy groups, having apparently renounced his view that ‘only dancing is necessary’.

      Speaking purely personally though, apart from any other possible considerations, I’m not at all sure I’d actually want to spend time in a place run by the likes of him and Dhyan Raj, given the impression they gave here at SN a couple of years or so ago. Perhaps that might be foolish, but it’s nevertheless my initial response.

      Might suit Shantam though….

    • mini kang says:

      We are offering all Osho meditations and therapies and groups for Free here in the commune.

      Whosoever is touched and moved by these free groups and therapies can make a donation out of their heart.

      This is the way Swami Rajneesh feels Osho should be offered to newcomers and young seekers. They do not have money to pay for groups and therapies and they also deserve to experience Osho.

      Remember, Mystic Rose is 3000 US$ in Poona Resort. Can young people who wish to do this group afford it?

      • swamishanti says:

        Mystic Rose, 3000 US$!
        Well, at least that will give everyone doing the group lots to laugh about!

        And how much is the entry price to get into the Resort these days?

        • shantam prem says:

          “And how much is the entry price to get into the Resort these days?” To ask such a question simply means someone is sleeping, Shanti Shanti, on the pile of books.

          As far as entry price is concerned, it is written at the official website in clean and transparent way, exactly the way western businesses are clean and transparent about their exuberant prices.

          I also wonder about the current knowledge of Arpana and Bros. In reality, their Osho is still Bhagwan, the great Bhagwan of Rajneeshpuram and 1977 Pune India.

          Mini Kang is right to write about the price of 21 days Mystic Rose meditation therapy.
          I think I should write an independent article about day-to-day cost in Pune and in Resort in general.

      • Arpana says:

        Can you provide a link to the Mystic Rose $3000?
        I can’t find it.

        • Arpana says:

          Last year it cost $18 for a day ticket, half that for Indians. And even less if a ticket for a week or a month was purchased. That is about $550 dollars a month for international visitors, not taking into account buying a discount ticket. Allowing for inflation, that isn’t drastically worse than thirty-five years ago.

          Where does $3000 for Mystic Rose come from?

          • swamishanti says:

            So if it was $18 just for the entrance fee, this works out at about rs1191.
            If Indians go half-price, then they will be paying about 500/600 rupees per day just to get through the gate. Of course, this includes all of the active meditations and watching the video.

            But this kind of price will restrict entry to the Brahmins or very wealthy Indians only. Still, perhaps it was always that way.

            And Osho never intended to create a traditional style ‘ashram’.

            • Kavita says:

              SS , I just checked for the current prices :
              http://www.osho.com/visit/rates-offers/seasonal-rates

              ”And Osho never intended to create a traditional style ‘ashram’.”

              Agreed.

              • ramon carballo says:

                I met Osho in December, 1980. I went to Poona, sent by my guru, Guru Raj Ananda, to see his friend Rajneesh (not yet ‘Osho’) to learn some lessons about sex and money. My guru´s Master was Sri Ramakrishna. In Ramakrishna teachings money and sex must be far away.

                The new message Guru Raj brings was that what we call God IS TOO in money and sex. Why not LOVE, sex and money?. Is not God everywhere? Why this problem with Godsex and Godmoney?

                • swami atmo says:

                  Money is God? Money is just a convenient invention; moment they becane a god is spoiling everything on the Earth. You can see it in Poona managemenet, money for them is God.

                  Are you looking for such God? Sorry, we are not…So people are welcomed in Ozen Cocom if they have love…even if they have no money.

                • Kavita says:

                  “So people are welcomed in Ozen Cocom if they have love” – that’s higher price than money you asking for, Swami!

                • Arpana says:

                  You are obsessed with money.

                  Money never comes up here, apart from an occasion I posted an article, which no one was particularly interested in.

                  Someone from your project regularly mentions money; the last time you all turned up en masse, and now: how you’re not interested in money, unlike the organisers of the Poona Ashram.

                  Serious bit of projection going on here.

                • swami atmo says:

                  We just comment on Ramon Carballo’s post above that “God is in money”.

                  Situation is very simple, we understand the value of money and we appreciate money a lot because money will help commune to grow and develop, but we always remember that money is not a goal, and if person has no money he is still welcomed. That’s all our obsession, projection etc.

                • Lokesh says:

                  Atmo, you are obviously a very enlightened man, or else how else could you have attained such deep insights? Would you say this is because of Swami Rajneesh’s positive influence or simply a natural development?

                • swami atmo says:

                  Beloved Lokesh,
                  I made a lot of personal attempts in this life and also maybe some natural development happened to me, but it still was a kind of wandering in a darkness with rare glimpses of light and deep thirst inside to know what is true. Near Rajneesh new dimension becomes available, something becomes very clear and simple, you feel like first time after a long, exhausted journey you are coming back home and drink fresh water…and if you really feel some light in what I am saying here it is consequences of being near Rajneesh.

                  Yes, I also done many things before but to walk that way which I came in three months on Rajneesh camps I guess I would need three lives of natural development…

                  So now door is open, everybody is welcomed.

                • Lokesh says:

                  Atmo, thanks for your sweet response. Good luck to you.

          • Lila says:

            Mystic Rose is between 1000 to 1500 USD depending on low and high season. 25 USD for day entry fee. Not to mention the flight ticket to India that costs 1500 USD more or less from anywhere around the world.

        • prem martyn says:

          Arpana…If you’re gagging for a Mystic Rose you can laugh, cry and shut up in the privacy of your own home. I’ll give you a discount…as long as you don’t buy any watches with it. How about $19.99, including a video of Ken Dodd (with a beard, of course)?

      • Ananda Vimal says:

        I can, as a young seeker, only celebrate this offer!

  2. prem martyn says:

    Thanks, Parmartha. Must be the comedian in you who likes the nostalgic end of the year comedy programmes.

  3. Parmartha says:

    It used to be a Hindu tradition in India, particularly from many offering spiritual practice and guidance, to offer things free (perhaps in Buddhist places also?).

    There seem two discussions here. What does one think about:
    1) that practice
    2) charging costs, as I experienced in the very early Osho ashram
    or 3) charging commerical rates.

    The second discussion is questioning the big-heartedness of the Mexican initiative. Surely these guys deserve praise for getting this together, not only Rajneesh but his crew of sannyasin people there who have made this place. Surely we should not be mean- mouthed about that. Some of us have been involved in such a major enterprise, and it is not a piece of cake by any means.

    Shantam Prem, please note this is also an option for yourself; get a place together under your own auspices and leave others to plough their own furrow.

    Just for the record, SN did ask if we could have some copy re the new initiative, and Dhyan Raj kindly replied in the affirmative. Someone threw doubt on this.

    • Arpana says:

      The point I have made is that they are not being offered free. Someone is paying indirectly.

      • Parmartha says:

        Yes, of course, Arps.
        But we would not have walked around so joyously in the new Poona Ashram in 1975 without the mighty largesse of Greek Mukta (who largely bought the place) and others who contributed to Osho’s work at that stage, including some major philanthropic Jains and Parsi people.

        No one beat themselves up saying we only have this place because of a Greek shipping magnate’s inheritance.

        • Arpana says:

          I’m not knocking them for doing it that way. I just think it should be said.

          I realise Poona was paid for in huge part by donations. I don’t think that’s wrong, but my impression of them is that there is a split for them between spiritual and money.

          • Parmartha says:

            Yep, Arpana.

            But bear in mind that most of us did not know the financing of the early Ashram back then.

            Speaking solely for myself when I arrived in 1974 I did not even think about it. I was just very grateful to find such a place. And happy to pay the small number of rupees asked for activities.

          • santosh anam says:

            Arpana, u are a idiot. What have u ever done? Money is always needed but I understand u, I want it free because I am enlightened.

          • shivani says:

            Where is the split, Arpana?

            Well, of course materials and labour is not offered free to the ones who are building cocom. they don’t offer wood or stones or tiles for free in the shop just because in this place that is getting built meditations are free. Of course, for this we pay. And anyone else would pay.

            So this is money and it’s really hard to get all the things together and get this money. It’s not to buy tiles for fixing a single bathroom, it’s to buy tiles for a hundred bathrooms. And all of it is done by one man! By Swami Rajneesh. All the thinking, arranging, management is on him. Of course, sannyasins are helping him to get this done. And believe me, they know what they are working for. There is no split in them.

            Then, after this place is built, people will get Osho meditations and groups for free! And some small charge for food. so where is the split?

            It’s just money is money and love and spirit is love and spirit. Actually, here it’s all in harmony. One supports the other, which rarely happens in the world. You can experience it here for yourself, the no-split.

            • Arpana says:

              Doesn’t seem wrong to me that money should change hands so that people can meditate. Young people spend a fortune on running mobile phones. On drink and drugs. Why can’t they pay to do meditations?

              • prem martyn says:

                The money saved from not paying for meditating in Mexico is used to donate to the Hairy Krishnoids, who in turn buy watches for the poor.

                Who pawn them at the Used Watch Shop, to then buy flour and lentils from the greengrocer who is saving to buy a pass for the Mystic Rose in Pune.

                Who then invest the money in Switzerland in an offshore arrangement involving revolving doors and holidays in Cancun.

                Allegedly.

              • swami atmo says:

                i promise you personally that not a single person in Ozen Cocom will prevent any young people from paying for meditation. But why create this ugly pattern, “pay for”? No need to pay for, if young or old person wants to help this place they can ‘give for’, not “pay for”.

                Feel the difference between goodwill and grateful heart from one side and necessary to pay from another side: if somebody has more money than he needs he can donate and help those people who has not enough money.

                And this is union, this is commune. And that is how universe is living: sharing in utter abundance not ‘paying for’.

    • mini kang says:

      Whatever may be the discussion points here talk is very easy and cheap. Especially sitting from behind a computer with opinions and judgments. Atleast Swami Rajneesh has worked hard together with 50 sannyasins for 4 years.

      We spent 4 million US$ and land was 2 million US$ Now the project is valued at 15 million US$. And still Swami Rajneesh is offering Osho meditations and groups for Free without even asking for any entrance fee or any money!

      Just come and experience Osho meditations. Without any business or money exploitation.
      We are also offering breakfast, lunch, dinner, 3 meals for only 12 US$ and I can tell you the food here is delicious and healthy.

      He does not want to make profit from people who are just wishing to experiment and experience Osho meditations.

      He has promised this always and now he is walking his talk. People always want to judge and pass their opinions. I do not know any Osho commune in the world that is doing what is happening here. Nothing comes even close to this project.

      We have a big 50 acres property which is now developed in totally international standards of a hotel resort.

      One has to learn to appreciate how much we all have put into this dream with 50 sannyasins working 12 – 16 hours daily without any demands for ourselves. It has been so fulfilling and will be more so when people come and celebrate Osho without any business.

      • Parmartha says:

        I am agreeing with you. Mini Kang, in case you had misread me.

        I know from several periods in my life about full-time worship! And done with love, and also know that such projects can never be delivered without inspiration, dedication and self sacrifice.

    • shantam prem says:

      “Shantam Prem, please note this is also an option for yourself; get a place together under your own auspices and leave others to plough their own furrow.”

      Parmartha, I don´t need such childish advice from anyone. My appreciation for Rajneesh was always there, whether he has made it or has not made it. I have cordial relations with him as one should have with one´s elder brother. If I have time and inclination, surely I will visit. Rajneesh has personally invited me, even gave the hint, “Flights to Maxico are cheaper from Barcelona.”

      But my interest is in the liberation of Pune. That property is a joint venture. Because of wrong policies it is going down the drain. I am adamant to work for commune´s freedom and will ask new management to construct an old people´s home for elderly disciples who have invested their youth and money without knowing it will go into the hands of ponzi schemers.

  4. prem martyn says:

    Ahh, Osho communities…’if only’ (magic wand time) we were structurally anarchist in our associative development, not surreptitiously using distorted forms of Nietzchean ‘Will to Power’ and all manner of psychic baggage that burdens every conversation (and remains part of the human dilemma, like it or not).

    You know, on paper and on screen a smiling face doesn’t actually tell you that I’m actually utterly round the bend…I like fluffy rabbits. Really.

    P.S:
    If anyone else is interested/curious about intentional libertarianism, the role of autonomy and self-determination, communes, communities, mysticism, Sufism…then check this out…

    Yep, it’s from the Kurds, whom I have only just discovered run an autonomous canton of 4.6 million mixed ethnicities in Rojava. Read on…

    “Rojava is the autonomous western region of Kurdistan made up of three non-contiguous cantons in northern Syria. It is a democratic confederalist society partially organized on principles of libertarian municipalism inspired by former anarchist philosopher Murray Bookchin.”

    Ahemmm…( and currently threatened by those saudi-sponsored loony tuners Iscumbag State…)
    but…
    We are all aware, aren’t we, of the huge influence of Sufism in Kurdish life, aren’t we? And that Damascus and Aleppo were once the only remaining hotbeds of Sufi ‘tekke’ gatherings, but I didn’t know how (apparently) informed the libertarian influence was in the Kurdish social life (Iraqi Kurd leaders Talabani and Barzani are/were adepts of the Qadiri and Naqshbandi Sufis).

    “The existing police force is trained in non-violent conflict resolution as well as feminist theory before being allowed access to a weapon. Directors of the Asayiş police academy have said that the long-term goal is to give all citizens six weeks of police training before ultimately eliminating the police.[92]

    Criminal Justice A new criminal justice system has been implemented that emphasizes restoration over retribution. Prisons are operated by TEV-DEM, housing mostly those charged with terrorist activity related to ISIS and other extremist groups.”

    Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava

    Well, that’s enough of contemporary news that won’t affect you anytime soon…
    speaking of which…

    The Captain Scarlet Mime School of Mexico, that the democratic organ of Sunbed News posts here might enjoy running some autonomy classes…and miming the results online in a series of teach yourself Osho glove-puppet hand movements.

    Muppets, anyone?

  5. Kavita says:

    Rajneesh, firstly I felt to kiss your hands for creating this Paradise. Also, thank you to Mini & your Support team. Ojas, your music is just wonderful . no words right now!!! – Dilruba.

    • swami atmo says:

      The only reasonable comment in all this thread full of mind arguing, suspicions, logical conclusion and etc…Just pure heart and clear vision…Thank you and big hug!!!

      • satyadeva says:

        This is a discussion forum, not necessarily a mutual appreciation society (unless mutual appreciation happens), so, Sannyas or no Sannyas, as well as praise and support, sometimes queries, doubts, fears, scepticism, opposition or even downright antagonism are to be expected; it’s just par for the course for any properly free-spirited, democratic set-up.

        • Kavita says:

          Yes, SD, agree with you.

          All the Best, Swami Atmo :)

        • Arpana says:

          Nicely put, old bean. I am liking that.

        • swami atmo says:

          First you should find a free spirit inside you, otherwise all your doubts, fears, scepticism, opposition will be just a defence of the mind, meaningless garbage and nothing else…and will prevent you from find something very essential.

          And free spirit knows nothing about fears and knows nothing about democracy, free spirit is looking for freedom to be, not for freedom to doubt and fear. If, on this way, doubts naturally arise then it is another matter but one should be very concious about his motives.

          Don’t forget that a lot of people had a lot of doubts and fears about Osho and only chosen ones who were able to open their hearts to him gained something.

          Anyway, you can take my comment as another way to oppose, antagonize etc. – I just want people to first experience and then talk, otherwise unbased talking will become a grave for your free spirit.

          • satyadeva says:

            “First you should find a free spirit inside you” – well, yes, Atmo, but that, for very many people, begs many questions, many issues.

            I suggest that becoming aware of doubts, fears, scepticism, judgments etc. etc., opening them up to scrutiny and discussion (in and/or out of therapy), ideally together with sincere meditative practice, in and out of formal processes, is a perfectly valid approach to clearing the way to that free inner spirit.

            And “chosen ones”? Chosen by whom or what? Something in me finds that description rather nauseating. I hope you don’t regard all Swami R’s adherents, including yourself, in similar elitist light. If you think you’re ‘special’ there might be a few surprises in store, I reckon.

            • swami atmo says:

              Satyadeva, please…

              Person on the path should be very alert…or he knows or he doesnt know…he doubts in everything which he didnt experienced but leave his heart open…first experience and then doubt or agree or do whatever you want…before experience he will doubt even in his own doubts…for the real seaker very necesserily open thirsty heart and alert mind….there is no other way….if such person will read this article all he can say: this project seems very beautiful, i should come and check…that is the only honest and sencere approach as i feel it. Ok?

        • swami atmo says:

          Satyadeva,
          Simply saying, afraid of limits, doubt in limitations, oppose to forcing – what kind of freedom you are looking for being antagonistic to a beautiful place with free Osho meditations and food for a price of cost? Sorry, I don’t understand.

          • satyadeva says:

            Well, once again you seem to have overlooked, forgotten or misinterpreted what I’ve already said here, fairly near the beginning of this thread.

            I wrote how impressed I was with this creation, that it’s a credit to its creators.

            But one can have a ‘nuanced’ view, eg both such praise and admiration, together with doubts, eg about certain of the people concerned (not to mention its suitability for oneself).

            The one doesn’t preclude the other. And to deny the validity of such concerns is just denying someone’s reality, however limited you might believe that to be.

        • Parmartha says:

          Correct, SD.
          The psychology of those who cannot abide living with differences is an unconscious form of totalitarianism.

          • prem martyn says:

            Happy Easter, everyone…

            ( I’m really unable to take any more vituperative flak for stating the obvious…so I thought I’d go elliptical and off topic – just the once, eh?).

  6. Santosh Anam says:

    Nothing should be for free, the freeloader will pay for sneakers. Advice given for free is never heard. But Osho commune is a rip-off. Oh, I forgot – Osho Resort.

    • Ma Prem Madhuma says:

      Beloved Swami Rajneesh and friends, I would like to come and join the buddafield middle of Feb to middle of April as Working in Meditation or as a massage therapist with Art of Tantric Touch, Tantric Therapy and Tantric Cuddling Meditation. Let me know the info on lodging, prices and how to arrive to the Ozen from the airport and if you are open for new sannyasin to join?

      I’m right now at oshorisk.com in Denmark after months visit on my way to Sweden.

      With love,

      Ma Prem Madhuma aka Freia Sidanius

  7. Nydia says:

    Thank you, all sannyasins and volunteers for your time and efforts. As a Mexican I can imagine how hard it was to make this project happen. Also, thank you for respecting the environment.

    I am glad with Osho & oooh, I remember when I started watching his DVDs, I didn’t know who was him and now He is in my heart. I hope to visit Ozen with the wish of benefit my spiritual path and my evolution. Peace and love :)

  8. I have not seen Ozen Cocom but I can feel its beauty and lively presence by seing its few glimpses through internet. The place is a high level of creation that can be manifested only by energetic and generous people.

    A few number of buddhafields should exist where a common thirsty people can enjoy the taste of Osho and can be proved as a workshop for development of NEWMAN.

  9. Lokesh says:

    Sounds good. I know the area well. Good luck to all concerned. The Yucatan is host to the occasional hurricane. The cenotes are wonderful. I have dived in a few of them. Beautiful part of the planet.

  10. prem martyn says:

    Yes, folks, it’s the end of the year and time for going to a tribute concert by one of your favourite performers.

    If you didn’t see him the first time round, well, don’t worry. The analogical clock team at Switzerland’s finest watch repairers have come up with a grand clockwork rendition of the original.

    Studied in finest detail and crafted in fully working parts, this year’s favourite tribute band-leader comes complete with his own tribute commune, tribute ra-ra team and resident tribute Yeay-sayers who all nod in agreement To The Same Tune. What a marvel this is and a great present for all the dysfunctional family, yes, yes, yes!

    If last year’s tribute funster from Nepal didn’t hit the right chords with his version of ‘A Doo ARun ARun’, that sixties favourite classic, well, don’t worry – this year it’s even better, with our very own team of precision movement puppet masters and ticky tacky clock makers able to render every movement in near precise detail.

    Driven by an unbending urge to be just like the original, this year’s tribute team have pulled out all the stops, including a model that closes its eyes and can actually wobble its arms in endlessly repeated arm dance routines of the original.

    And what tune will the musical funsters be dancing to this year, from a selection of tribute bands?

    Well, it was a difficult choice. At first, the team thought they might be able to get away with an ABBA tribute band-cum celebrational community with the same look, calling it ReBjorn Again. However, after dancing to another master’s tune for so long they realised they had all better sing from the same score sheet this time round and so came up with a tribute band singing that old famous 70s hippie commune hit, ‘You’ve Got Me’, by The Hollies.

    For those of you who just love this sort of thing, this is a great time to dust off your old red-robes and be taken for a ride down memory lane by our team.
    Here is one they made earlier…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_wfKVjuJM

    P.S:
    Can anyone spot the original artwork by Klimt, posted below? ‘m really at a loss to know, or how to.

    Thanks,

    Sw (Senor) Captain Scarlet Osho Zen Babe Magnet Sannyas de la Bhagwan Chihuahuaita.

    • Sumana says:

      It’s a parody of ‘The Scream’ by Edvard Munch.

      • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

        Some ‘Beauty-and-the Beast’ theme also as embedded (story) inside the parody (?) about ‘Scream’ (by Munch, Edvard, rightly recognized), but did you had a go for Klimt? ‘The Kiss’?

        Well, what to say about ‘UK’ chatting, it´s buzzing, isn´t it?

        Otherwise, Prem Martyn, you have good human eyes (functioning) and mine are not so bad either.

        Swiss watches are told to be the best, are they? Dropped wearing watches very long ago.

        Madhu

  11. prem martyn says:

    Or this…

  12. Anant Akash says:

    Ozen-Cocom is one of the most visionary, beautiful, marvellous, breathtaking ashrams ever built in the world. Although it is not completely finished, it is likely to be so in the near future. It provides a clear alternative to a few of the Osho communes, whose mission and vision have been centered on profits for those who have managed and claimed ‘ownership’ of the ashrams.

    Ostensibly, this is especially true of the Osho International Federation (OIF), whose managers claim ownership over the Osho Pune Commune and who falsely claim trademark over Osho’s name as well as false claims of sole copyrights to all Osho’s videos, audios, and other related media.

    While lawsuits have been pending for several years by concerned Osho sannyasins contesting these claims, ostensibly the OIF managers have used secret Swiss bank accounts and other companies tied to their financial interest so monies/profits go directly to them.

    So beware what you may read about the Ozen-Cocom and Ozen aka Swami Rajneesh, who is an enlightened devotee of Osho. Ozen’s single focus for five years now has been the building of this commune so seekers have a genuine place for their spiritual journey, not a place for profits for a few.

    Many of those who have borne false witness herein and in other forums about Ozen are associated or connected with the OIF, including some of the therapists. Ozen’s vision not only includes free meditations at the ashram but also free therapies. Not just free for daily meditations, but free also for long-term meditations, for example, Mystic Rose, No-Mind and Vipassana.

    So for the reader in this forum, come to conclusion yourself about the Ozen-Cocom: https://www.facebook.com/OZENcocom, and Ozen: http://www.ozenrajneesh.com/ozenrajneesh/home.html, by reading and watching videos about the ashram and him as well as visiting the ashram. Not until then can you have realistic conclusion about Ozen and the ashram.

    For too many years, the OIF hypocrites, betrayers who hijacked Osho’s vision and legacy have pulled the wool over many sannyasins’ eyes. Ozen has given his life effort to provide a vision and legacy consistent with Osho, his master’s intent.

    I am unapologetic for the tone of this message. Even Jesus spoke in a strong tone regarding the hypocrites. He had a soft heart for the thieves, murderers, prostitutes, etc. But the hypocrites he utterly condemned because they prey on those who have limited awareness, knowledge or who are simply gullible. The hypocrites know better but they take advantage and use those who do not know better.

    When it comes to any master for whom I feel false witness has been given, I will have a strong tone. With that written, I wish for you all love and light, and I hope to see you at the Ozen-Cocom.

    • satyadeva says:

      As I wrote here yesterday, it’s interesting that Rajneesh, having previously denounced therapists (notably at a public meeting at Osho Miasto, Italy, and here at SN), regarding therapies as unimportant, non-essential, even unnecessary, declaring that “dancing is enough”, has done an about-turn and proposes to make them part of the ongoing programme at his new centre.

      Can’t be for the financial benefits as there’ll be no charge. Perhaps then, it’s simply to attract people who otherwise wouldn’t bother?

      No comments so far about this, and I wonder why.

      And btw, just curious:
      Are there any recommendations or even ‘rules’ re the colour of clothes to be worn there? (I see several people in the previously ‘statutory’ crimson/mauve etc. garb in two of the photos). How about the wearing of malas?

      If people are encouraged or ‘made’ to adopt certain colours and/or the mala then I’d be rather uneasy, it would lend the project a whiff of ‘cultism’, which, as we know, is always a danger in these enterprises. Not to mention, of course, Osho having discarded all such rules a long time ago.

      • swami atmo says:

        It is interesting that talking about video, some people are not able to be attentive enough to watch it…Even in Miasto videos Rajneesh says that he appreciates a lot therapy methods made by Osho…he just doesn’t like that therapies become more important than normal meditation and doesn’t like that therapists became superior people who impose their vision to innocent seekers.

        It was very simple message from Swami Rajneesh, no need to misinterpret it as Rajneesh declaring therapies as non-essential and non-important.

        In some cases, especially in yours, they can be very precious because sometimes sannyasins are not able simply meditate, simply dance and simply enjoy, and lose their time in meaningless internet battles. Such people need a little push and Osho therapies are good and very precious and essential toy for them.

        • satyadeva says:

          Ok, Atmo, no need to come on as if you are some superior species. If I misunderstood then fine – and in fact I agree re the limitations of therapy in a larger spiritual context and that therefore therapists should ‘know their place’ (and that this should be known not only by sannyasins but by anyone into any similar ‘search’).

          However, to denigrate all therapies to the level of a “toy” is again somewhat arrogant, given that they are very often life-transformers, even life-savers for some or even many people.

          Perhaps though, you yourself lack similar experience of personal crisis to draw upon and are merely looking from the outside (and, in your eyes, judging by your tone, from ‘above’) – always a dangerous stance in such matters, as I trust you’ll agree.

          • satyadeva says:

            P.S:
            Any comments re colours and malas?

            • mini kang says:

              People just wear whatever they feel comfortable wearing here. So far there is no rule as to clothes or mala, but Swami Rajneesh says he will have many surprises.

              So we just wait and see!

              • satyadeva says:

                Ok, Mini, thanks.

                Tell me, if Swami Rajneesh orders you to wear nothing at all at all times for (to be ‘realistic’) 3 weeks – would you obey?

            • dhyanraj says:

              There are no rules about how people dress in Ozen-Cocom, Satyadeva – Rajneesh did ask me to keep my pants on though so as not to scare the delicate girls. Although as you can see from the photo with Anna, a model from Russia, it may be me who should be scared….

          • satyadeva says:

            And Atmo, do you really know, from your own experience, that therapies are mere “toys”? Or is it just that someone you look up to has told you?

            • swami atmo says:

              “And Atmo, do you really know, from your own experience, that therapies are mere “toys”? Or is it just that someone you look up to has told you?”

              I know nothing at all. You talked about what Rajneesh mentioned in video and found you were not precise enough in quoting him, that’s all. But if you want to know what is my experience, let me tell you one beautiful joke:

              Two workers are walking along the road, one is digging a hole and another one immediately buries it back. One man who was just passing by came to them and asked, “Hey, guys, I wonder what are you doing?” And workers answered him, “Please try to understand us, normally we are three people in a team, one of us digging a hole, another one is sowing the tree, and then third one is burying the hole – but today the second one is sick.”

              I like this joke because situation with therapies is exactly the same: somebody is missing who is planting a tree but the other two are so blind that keep on doing meaningless work, unnecessarily digging the ground of people’s minds.

              They were never aware that someone else was present invisibly who was sowing the plants. And in commune of the Master their work for the first time becomes meaningful, because here is a place and time to sow the seeds….

              • Chinmayo says:

                Haha, super!!

              • mini kang says:

                Perfect reply, Atmo. Exactly what Therapists need. To drop their serious heads and egos, that they are special.

                Therapists only know how to search people’s faults and weakness. Create fear in their minds. Then make a business and suck the blood of innocent seekers. Swami Rajneesh knows how to expose these parasites.

                • anand yogi says:

                  Perfectly correct Mini!
                  You are perfectly correct to say that Atmo is perfectly correct!

                  These blood-sucking parasite alcoholic baboon rapists just seek to prick our bubble by reminding us of our failures!

                  Family tragedies, inability to communicate, childhood traumas, incapability of forming meaningful relations with blood relatives, competitions about girlfriends, about boyfriends – all just mind stuff that only baboons and mindfuckers are interested in!

                  All that is needed is Osho’s dream to obliterate this nonsense from the mind like enlightened electric shock treatment that Rajneesh is giving!

                  The therapists must drop their ideas that they are special! It is us, the true seekers, real inheritors of Osho’s dream who are special!

                  Mini, you are much more special than they are! It is obvious!

                  When Rajneesh was on Sannyasnews some years ago he gave real therapy!

                  Like Gurdjieff,he pretended to act like a petulant, spoilt brat throwing his toys out of the pram and gave the impression of a thoroughly vain and silly man, telling off-colour jokes and threatening to chop egos, dicks and heads like a man whose mind had stopped at about age 14!

                  The therapy worked wonderfully.!

                  All the negative fools of SN stayed away whilst the special chosen few became more special for understanding what was really going on!

                  Keep up the good work!
                  I will come to Osho Cocom after lobotomy date is finalised!

                  Yahoo!
                  Hari Om!

                • swami atmo says:

                  Anand Yogi,

                  As far as I remember that thread, one Spanish therapist was very upset after innocent Rajneesh’s joke about his girlfriend. So if a person whose mind stopped at 14 years old managed to upset a great Osho therapist, at which age stopped mind of the therapist?

                  It looks like it was the only way for Swami Rajneesh to communicate with such people – become more silly and threaten to cut dicks to be understood at least a little bit, otherwise gap is such a big one.

              • satyadeva says:

                “I know nothing at all” – about what, Atmo? About therapies, from personal experience, or rather, no personal experience? Or is this one of those supposedly ‘spiritual’-sounding expressions meant to indicate how ‘empty’ the speaker is?!

                • Swami Ali says:

                  Atmo, if this Yogi bothering you, you say word and I use martial arts and chop his dick with bare hands and make into goulash. This very good strong Russian soup.

                  You say Rajneesh is chopping dicks of Osho therapists.I not know this. This good news. This necessary because gap of enlightenment so big that violence only language these people understand.
                  Rajneesh like Putin. Very strong man.

                  Soon I come Osho Cocoon, I make workshop teach you how chop dicks and other body parts. I chop many dicks in Chechnya and Ukraine.

                  Like Mini say, these people parasites. Parasites must be removed and crushed for health and cleanliness so I come Osho Cocoon and give lessons. Dhyanraj right, we need people like me to protect innocent seekers .

                  I think we can practise on Dhyanraj – his dick worn out and he no need any more – so no problem.

                  But first I have to go back Chernobyl electroshock hospital for little while.
                  Don’t worry – I promise I find many new disciples for Rajneesh there.

                • swami atmo says:

                  Satyadeva…the last one…but not to indicate how empty i am personally but to indicate that in a space of awareness your personal knowledge and personal experience has no any value…you become just a light which reflects things…thats why osho could say about family or children not having personal experience…because he became the light and this light is transcending all your so called knowledge…and having a glimpse of this light i can say that know nothing at all and dont want to know…is it spiritual or not i dont care…just the fact – some source is open and i can speak out of this source and i enjoy my speaking immencely…and i dont care am i right or wrong…this glimpse of light is my only rightmess and it indicates something to the light inside other’s people

                • swami atmo says:

                  Swami ali…

                  Mmmm…let me think…i guess your progress is obvious…your skills are more than just a comedian in a third rate show…now you can successfully work as a clown on a childrens party…some small children will laugh, applaudise and will find you funny

                  Just take some lessons from dhyanraj before doing something with his such desired dick…now he looks more funny than and you should grow…

                  Good luck!

                • Swami Ali says:

                  Atmo,
                  You sound like have inferiority complex. This I understand because you like one-legged blindfolded boy with learning problems in ass-kicking contest who think he big bear!

                  You jealous of Dhyanraj. He chief disciple have big beard and you just little bumfluff disciple talk blah blah blah judgments on internet. You need grow some hair on balls before speak. But first must have balls in sack.

                  Rajneesh prefer Dhyanraj pudding breasts more than your yours. He real man. Like Putin.

                  You talking humour I no understand. You sound like homosexual in tutu at circus.

                  I Russian. Very strong.
                  I put foot in your ass.
                  I call Rajneesh, tell him as master he must put foot in your ass too.
                  I real disciple. I have real spiritual experience.
                  You just Talk.
                  I Russian. No talk but act. I come soon, chop dick and put foot in your ass. Then you have real experience.

                • swami atmo says:

                  Swami Ali,

                  I’m afraid your skills are reduced, but at least all the keywords are used: dhyanraj, balls, tits, Putin…now you just need some skilful therapist to interpret it correctly.

                  Big hug to you, my balls-tits-Putin-obsessed Russian friend.

          • swami atmo says:

            “However, to denigrate all therapies to the level of a “toy” is again somewhat arrogant, given that they are very often life-transformers, even life-savers for some or even many people.”

            Beloved Satyadeva,
            your approach just shows ordinary attitude of therapists and psychologists to people as they are some sick persons with a lot of problems who need help. What do you mean when you write “life transformers”? The only real life transformation is a mystical celebration called enlightenment when you are losing your mind, losing your body and still something remains present…watching…observing…in utter joy…

            Which therapy can help to come through this experience? And what do you mean when you write “even life savers”, as if life as it is is a supreme value? All Osho teaching is to go beyond life and death and if you keep on staying in your body but mystical celebration is not happening to you then what is the meaning to even “save” such life?

            Don’t reduce people to patients of hospital, they have something immensely more valueble which transforms not even life. After this transformation you have no life any more – but all your being.

            And this experience is becoming available near people like Osho or Rajneesh. That’s why they can say about therapies as just toys; they know something beyond…And that is why therapists are so serious about their therapies – they know nothing more than these psychological games.

            • Tan says:

              Swami Atmo, you said “the only real life transformation is a mystical celebration called enlightment, when you are losing your mind, losing your body…”

              Did you experience it? If so, please, let us know…

              All the best.

              • swami atmo says:

                Tan,
                Last years I am very happy to let everybody know that on Rajneesh events this experience is easily available. I didn’t only experience it but it keeps on growing in me and becomes almost everyday reality.

                That’s why I publicly write in favour of Swami Rajneesh and commune because this experience is available for everybody, and all that one could read in Osho books and think about it like about something from another world, in Rajneesh’s presence become very real; actually the only reality which always invisibly happened but suddenly became realised.

                And I celebrate it in a deep gratitude to my master.

            • satyadeva says:

              Atmo, you emphasise that I misunderstood Rajneesh’s tirade against therapists and therapies, at Miasto, Italy, a few years ago.

              However, as Martyn’s post has reminded me today, what came through to me on that video was how poor an impression Swami R made on that occasion, coming across as a rather mean-spirited, conceited sort of chap, particularly when he used the sadly premature death from cancer of Ma Yoga Sudha (a much-loved presence at Miasto and indeed, throughout the Sannyas world – I myself had known her as a superb therapist many years before and she it was who introduced me to ‘Bhagwan’ way back in early ’73) and her reported trepidation on her death-bed, as a means of propagating his anti-therapist agenda, ridiculing her last-minute fear, using it as a means to hold all therapists in utter contempt.

              It was that video (plus one or two similarly unimpressive impressions, eg the apparent imitation of Osho, and his posts at SN) that turned me against him, evidence that however ‘enlightened’ someone might be they aren’t necessarily deserving of adulation, awe, or even 100% respect.

              As for your criticism of my approach, well, it seems you yourself have failed to understand what I said here a few days ago:

              “…in fact I agree re the limitations of therapy in a larger spiritual context and that therefore therapists should ‘know their place’ (and that this should be known not only by sannyasins but by anyone into any similar ‘search’).”

              I specifically asked you whether you’d had experience of personal crisis, requiring therapy, but apart from saying, “I know nothing”, you didn’t reply clearly, unambiguously, instead choosing to deliver a short story – all very nice and spiritual, but not a straight answer.

              So again I ask, what is your actual personal experience, of therapy, of ‘personal crisis’? If you have none then you’re not really qualified to make such pronouncements as all therapists are “ill”, with “serious problems.”

              How would you know? Again, is this just something you’ve been told and taken on board as your own truth, without researching, examining it for yourself?

              It seems to me that there’s a danger inherent in any such communal enterprise, where large numbers of people, caught up in a collective euphoria, simply believe what they’re told, unthinkingly. And then attempt to teach others, as if it’s their own truth.

              Someone once called this symptom, fairly common in ‘spiritual’ circles, ‘guru-itis’! And we’ve seen quite a few examples here over the last few days. I suggest that such immature, probably largely unconscious behaviour apparently going unchecked (or perhaps even encouraged?) by the ‘guru’ in question doesn’t reflect too well on him.

              • swami atmo says:

                Satyadeva…about sudha: rajneesh said exactly the truth…she teached to go beyond death and herself was afraid of death…he simply stated the fact…do you like it or not the fact is the fact…if we search for truth what else can we do than state the facts as they are?

                About my personal crisis…i dare to claim that absolutely every unenlightened person is living in a deep personal crisis…does he knows it or not is irrelevant…did he come through therapies or not is irrelevant…the only way to go out – is to find something beyond personality…because your persona is crisis itself, it keeps you separated, it keeps you blind about your undivided nature and if after therapy you feel yourself little bit relieved it is nothing but anestetic…so my own experience to solve personal crisis is to find eternal center…and this center can be found only near someone who’s gone beyond his own personality, near mystic.

                That is my experience..and i didnt say that therapists are sick people with problems…i just said that their approach to people as all the people are sich and have a problems…first they should to convince person that something wrong with him and then appoint treatment: one month this therapy, another month that…but if they dont know their reality, how can they show you your reality…and if you dont know your eternal center how can you know that you solved your crisis? You just try to find the way for more comfortable sleep, but it is not solving anything, just delaying

                • Arpana says:

                  How exactly does your parrotting what you have heard parrotted make you any better?

                • swami atmo says:

                  Arpana,

                  Parroting? Sorry, I talk out of myself and whatever I talk can not make me better or worse, I just express what I feel, no need to be jealous about it.

                  To get a glimpse of light in a presence of the master like Swami Rajneesh is just in the very nature of things. And you also are welcome, you can come and check. Don’t hurry to judge through internet.

                • Arpana says:

                  @ swami atmo says:
                  1 January, 2016 at 9:30 am

                  You sound like a character out of a science fiction novel, who’s come to this planet to save humanity.

                • Arpana says:

                  Re: Swami Atmo says:
                  1 January, 2016 at 9:30 am

                  And you and your cronies are not judging through the internet.

                  MOD: IS THIS A QUESTION, ARPANA?

                • swami atmo says:

                  Arpana,

                  Look carefully inside yourself. You sound like a character from this planet with complex of inferiority. Characters with complex of inferiority always afraid that somebody tries to be superior to them.

                • Arpana says:

                  @ atmo
                  1 January, 2016 at 11:00 am

                  That’s projection.

                • swami atmo says:

                  Arpana

                  Ok, but can you explain to person with projections how do you know that I am just parrot? I can sound as charecter from movies or I can sound like the most humble man in universe…but how did you decide I am just parrot?

                  Are things which I say are too intelligent for you and vision is too profound? Then sorry, I’m not gonna drop my projection and still feel that your comments are just complex of inferiority.

                • Arpana says:

                  @Swami Atmo
                  1 January, 2016, at 4:52 pm

                  When you grow up a bit – well, a lot actually, you will also be able recognise a parrot squawking, recognise projection.

                • swami atmo says:

                  Are you sure you’re grown-up enough to recognize it? Please tell us about your growth and your experiences…maybe it will encourage me and I will start to grow also…mmm?

    • swamishanti says:

      Meanwhile, whilst different groups of Osho sannyasins bicker and battle with one another over their different interpretations of the master`s ‘message’, another spiritual group, famed for wearing orange , or saffron, the bald-headed warriors or Hari Krishna`s, are also bitching and battling amongst themselves in a similar fashion, the `Iskcon` purists here, denouncing other Krishna devotees for mixing with the likes of Ram Dass and the disciples of Neem Karoli Baba, who they deem to be a “corrupting influence” on the purityy of their mission.

      They do seem to be left with some confusion with what is and isn`t acceptable behaviours.

      http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/08-12/editorials8857.htm

    • Lokesh says:

      Anant declares, “Swami Rajneesh is an enlightened devotee of Osho”.

      Anant, how can you be certain of this?

      I would also be interested to hear what your definition of enlightenment is and how Swami Rajneesh fulfils this role for you, and what you hope to gain, attain, from being around him. Thanks.

      • Anant Akash says:

        Lokesh… thank you for your questions.

        I cannot be certain of anyone’s enlightenment, including Osho or Ozen aka Swami Rajneesh. So, it would be more accurate for me to write, Ozen is “considered” by many, including myself, to be an enlightened devote of Osho.

        Enlightenment is considered by mystics to be a permanent state of connection to Existence where one lives from the centre of one’s being, which is characterised by peace, joy, centredness, bliss, serenity, compassion, and divine love. I have only had glimpses of ultimate reality, Oneness. Accordingly, I have no direct existential knowing that this can be a permanent state of being.

        No one can begin to know if someone is an enlightened being unless they have had spiritual communion with this being. In other words, the being of the enlightened one enters and communes spiritually with the being of the disciple. It is at this point one becomes a devotee, not until this point.

        Moreover, it is not possible to realize fully if someone is an enlightened being unless you are enlightened yourself. Otherwise, the consideration is based on mind, feelings, or visceral intuition, and that is not an existential knowing. An existential knowing means it is your own existential experience.

        I am disciple of Osho and Ozen. Since I have not had spiritual communion with either being, I cannot be a devotee, which by my definition, spiritual communion would be a requirement. Ozen has come into my dream once and we hugged, which seemed like for eternity. My heart has literally stopped while watching him walk, his mere saying of my name, or merely looking into his eyes. But, this, I feel, falls short of being a devotee. I continue to have doubts and will continue to have doubts until there is a deep spiritual communion with Ozen or any other ‘Master’.

        Ozen can fulfill the role of helping me in my spiritual growth by playing the master/disciple game with me. But I feel more that he is a very special friend rather than a master. If he is an enlightened being, if enlightenment exists as a reality, this play will enable me to discover and live more and more from the centre of my being.

        I am not searching for ‘enlightenment’. I deeply long for a loving connection with the Source. I have felt for many years that if I live in a buddhafield with an enlightened being it will immensely help with this connection. My intuition, not my knowing, directed me to Ozen and the Ozen-Cocom.

        • Lokesh says:

          Hi Anant, thanks for your sincere and considered response. I appreciate that.

          As you admit yourself and I quote:
          “It would be more accurate for you to write, Ozen is “considered” by many, including myself, to be an enlightened devote of Osho.”

          Those doing the considering are not enlightened and therefore, as you also admit, incapable of seeing whether someone is enlightened or not.
          So, basically, you do not know if Ozen is enlightened or not and hopefully in future you will no longer experience the need to proclaim that he is, as you previously said, “Swami Rajneesh is an enlightened devotee of Osho.”

          Live and learn.

          • swamishanti says:

            Lokesh chimes:

            “Those doing the considering are not enlightened and therefore, as you also admit, incapable of seeing whether someone is enlightened or not.”

            But, how to you know that those doing the considering are not enlightened, Lokesh?

            Perhaps Mr Ozen Rajneesh has enlightened devotees, who consider him to be enlightened, just as he was a devotee of his own master, Osho Rajneesh, whom he also considered to be enlightened.

            There are also other alternatives: enlightened ones may also make mistakes, and consider people to be enlightened when they are not, or perhaps temporarily ‘awake’.

            Perhaps it`s difficult to tell without being physically near.
            For example, sometime in the seventies, whilst in Woodlands, someone showed Osho a book of Adi da Samraj, with some pictures of him in it, and asked Osho`s advice, and Osho told that person that Adi Da was a “Buddha,” and that they were immensely lucky to have found him, whilst later, sometime in the eighties, Osho declared that Adi Da “was not a Master”. (This was probably after he had heard about all of the scandals emerging around Adi Da).

        • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

          “I am not searching for ‘enlightenment’. I deeply long for a loving connection with the Source”

          I simply love what you are in essence putting out herewith, Anant Akash, and I am enchanted by your honesty in your response.

          Such an invitation to relaxation too…and more….

          With Love,

          Madhu

  13. Kavita says:

    I wonder what the group rates were when Osho was in the body & whether sannyasins at that time had any problems with the rates then ?

    To me, when I came to the Poona Commune the entrance sticker was Rs.20 for Indians & non-Indians, but which was quite expensive for Indians. I didn’t think it was any issue to me then & even when I was broke I found my way in. I guess now too anyone who really needs to be/go inside can always ask for a scholarship/work as meditation and if I may say, where there is a will there is a way.

    When I did Mystic Rose in 1994, there was a worker’s concessional rate of Rs 2100 which was quite expensive even then.

    Somehow the rate of an entrance sticker or doing a group was not of concern for me & few of the sannyasins I knew then, as something always fell into place. Probably I was/we were lucky & I don’t see why it could be different for anyone else?

    I personally think & feel Swami Rajneesh is going through his journey. Of course, we all have our own journeys & I guess each & everyone who is banned or has problem with the Commune management team does not necessarily & may also not see the need, nor have the capacity, to create a Commune/Ashram.

    Nevertheless, I bow down to Swami Rajneesh’s spirit for creating a space where he can do or not do whatever he needs to for himself & his fellow-travellers.

    • Parmartha says:

      Kavita,
      Just for information: there were no ‘groups’ when I arrived off the road in Poona in November, 1974. There were the ‘camps’ and Osho encouraged us all to do those. And they were good.

      I am a forever young sort of person, but due to the time that has elapsed, cannot remember exactly what the prices of doing camps were. I know at the time people from London could survive quite easily for six months on around £500, including all accommodation, etc. and one could save £500 in London at that time in a month’s working, if one just put one’s mind to it.

      A minority of westerners there at that time were what were called hippies. Oddly enough, though they often behaved in a poverty-struck way, they often came from richer families who provided them with allowances.

      I met quite ‘poor’ Indians on my first camp. I remember one guy with whom I became friendly saying he worked on the Railways and was using his holiday to do the camp.

      The atmosphere was good, and I never heard anyone complaining that they were being ripped off financially, etc.

      • Kavita says:

        Thank you, Parmartha.

        I wonder if money or anything else could ever be any criterion for most seekers. & even if there are any they turn out to be challenges which one eventually foregoes, I guess.

  14. Swami Prem Vimalgit says:

    Isn’t this what the Master’s vision is?

  15. pato says:

    I have lived already for one year here in Ozen Cocom. Working every day with people like Mini, Chinmayo, Maitreya, etc. These people have been the main team behind Rajneesh, working very hard. Sacrificing themselves for the creation of this majestic project.

    This quality of people you cannot find anywhere else in the world, they have put their whole life into it, for Rajneesh, for his vision. I am inspired by them, and blessed to be part of this team.

    I hope many young people like me have the possibility to come and join this experience. I am grateful also to Sannyas News for publishing this article, there are many young people out there, searching for a place for the inner growth, but don’t know where to find it. This was my case more than a year ago, but luckily I ended up in Ozen Cocom.

  16. pato says:

    A photo of our team on the Masters Day celebration last 31st of July. Welcome Centre opening.

    • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

      Strong pic, Pato; your eyes caught some flavour of the jungle and of the wild plants in it.

      Maybe you all up-and-down there could invite Clarissa Pinkola Estes to your place? She is a fabulous, wise, wild woman and a most fabulous story-teller too, South American, a Cantadora!

      And a Lover of the Unnamable too.

      Me too, I am.

      Madhu

  17. prem martyn says:

    Welcome aboard Air Traffico, your friendly, favourite airline.

    We will shortly be arriving in Mexico. Passengers connecting to Cancun, please take a moment for reviewing our handy local language phrase book, in the seat pockets in front of you. All conversations have been vetted by a local northern English and fluent Mexican translator.

    Visiting Seeker: “Hello there, are you a local Cancunian, Ji? I am from Manchester, in fact I am a Mancunian.”

    (Translated: “Ola, local hombre de Cancun, No? Si ? Oh non comprende? El blimeyo, uhm…Manchesterio Unitedio!?)

    Local Cancunian: “Aaaaa…Si, si, si. Manchesterio Unitedio…crapola league 2015.”

    Visiting Seeker: “Where is the most wonderful religious community since sliced bread and marmite was invented?”

    (Translated: “Donde esta the biggo communita de la history de la humanidad, por favor?)

    LC: “Que?”

    VS: “La grandioso projecto de amor profundo, avec hugs-gratis-free garantios, eh luuvv, daaarlin’???

    LC: Que, dises? Yo no understandio nada!!

    VS: La grande projecto de $12 food pass el dia, con arseyio sittingios gratis?

    LC: $ 12 food pass el dia, es bastante mucho por una familia de local campesinos, por una week, gringo!! Me understandio nada, okdokeyios?

    VS: Look, D…O…NN..DDDD… EEEEy esta la community de le Capitan Scarlatti, el fundador de la fabricacion de Rolex Chinesios?

    LC: “Aaaayy, mi madre…Si, si, el fundador de MexiXfactor…uhmmm, aahh, si…ermm, “Tonight, Simonios, I wood like to seet laykke Osho?” Esta Hombre?

    VS: “Erm, Oui, er Ja, er alroiht meayte, yeeh, thhatts ‘im alroiht, Si, Si.”

    LC: Oh, why didn’t you sayios in the first place? Just follow the pink Rolls Royce to Thunderbird headquarters.

    VS: Yes, Osho.

  18. shantam prem says:

    Let us say someone goes to Pune for Mystic Rose or goes to Mexico, in both the cases it is like someone from England goes to America for a routine blood test.

    When people travel that far, there must be some deeper connection with the place and the people. In which way it is going to help some European by seeing the photos of world´s biggest mall in China?

    As far as Rajneesh´s creation is concerned, as a charismatic leader he has won the trust of people who are willing to invest their energy and money as per his vision.

    Because he has seen how the closest disciples were making holes in Osho´s Noah’s Ark, he will be careful not to allow the ego clashes among the close disciples.

    In any case, it is a small project with limited number of people, so everybody will be under the observant eyes of the founder-in-chief.

    • swami atmo says:

      Ozen Cocom is not a small project with limited number of people. Limited number of people just created ground for hundreds and thousands.

      And this place is absolutely unique in a world of Osho Sannyas now. Buddhafield as a place for grow is available again and this commune as material and social structure is just a neccesery basement to start somethong which is beyond material. Button is pushed…everybody is welcome.

  19. prem martyn says:

    Latest news-video in, about the secret of dancing, man’s red flower and Wanting to be like…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOTZJ8EFgpk

    Now then…
    If I had extraordinary skills which allowed me to micro-detail the working parts of a watch, have that become hugely marketable, then, also perhaps apply that skill of recordable observation in other areas such as mimickry.

    And, if I had a will to personal power which had as a reference, the ultimate in cognition. i.e ‘knowing’, which then allowed for ‘one-way’ recognition by others to/of me…then I might well use that obsevational skill and poised speech, to even sponsor forms of collective living which allowed for deferential unquestioning behaviour in my favour.

    If I could then cover my lack of capability for transparency, borrow formulaic deference and refuse others’ enquiry until I felt confident enough to improve even upon my own iconic teacher – then, together with a similar latent wish for vindication against those who had ridiculed me since I was a teenager, I might then be lauded and feted for my capacity to create a working legacy, of community, very similar in its usury to other models of religious double-talk, gone previously.

    For example…
    There are vegan seventh day adventists who are kind to animals but bonkers about a bearded God existing. Does it matter as long as they don’t harm anyone?

    Well, on the face of it they are great advocates for animal compassion. Should one declaim and praise them at the same time?

    But can/should we ever afford to nitpick at the level of who we are?

    Well, obviously if ‘who we are’ is the sine-qua-non of the purpose of the endeavour, then I’m afraid you are obliged to question it, as lyrically and lovingly and as viscerally as you wish, privately and publicly.

    Truth has a habit of undoing the best laid plans, whatever one intends (and the Ranch was evidence of that).

    I like to think that I don’t buy into compromise unstated, whether in private or civic life, simply because it affects our ability to openly, fearlessly, discriminate and to use language, discourse and personal empowerment effectively. Which does not need or require acts of indiscriminate faith or credulity. One creates one’s own permissions anyways as rationale, internal dialogue or defence.

    Osho’s (the dead one’s) therapeutic meditative interventions can be powerfully disorientating, in a positive authorising way. That is plenty to be getting on with, without sub-texts.

    I for one will not, do not and cannot recognise those currently receiving kudos and a liberality of passive indulgence on this forum. And this here voice is used many times over in my incarnations in daily life amongst sannyasins and onwards. I take it as my learning from being sannyas-oriented all my adult life, but without an address and knowingly so.

    Do I care? Not a tossio.

    Thank you – and now for the adverts.

    • shivani says:

      So is that your hero, Prem Martyn? The one in the video? Ah, nice to meet you! I’m sure you can be like huuuuumaaaan too and express yourself in a direct and clear way. or you think if you state something directly without using mockery and sarcastic jokes humans won’t recognize you? Just try!!

      What’s behind that grimace on your half-human, half-monkey face? Do you care??
      Do I care? Oh, I’m just enjoying the dance with a man who can give you priceless experience.

      Because if you even wanted to pay for what Osho gave you or for what Rajneesh could give you would you be able to do that? Or would you care and dare to mock?!

      Meanwhile, enjoy the dance with your hero. There’s still hope.

    • swami atmo says:

      If you had a courage to come to Rajneesh and spend time with him you wouldn’t need to write any words above.

      But obviously you have not and you should cover with all these words your lack of capability for searching truth.

      How to gain this courage – it is art…beyond forum bla bla bla.

      Welcone to the real world, Martyn neo – without “if I had”.

  20. Elena Buka says:

    This place is so full of all the hearts that were willing to create and build it.

    Everyone was trying so hard. Our beloved Rajneesh worked like crazy…still working now. Slept like 5 hours at night. He always does maximum he can, gives maximum he can.

    There were so many troubles, he could have just left and forgotten about them! But he never gave up.

    Why? Because many beautiful seekers now can come and experiment
    and they only need to pay for food and bad. (MOD: bad? DO YOU MEAN bed OR board?)

    And those who talk about money or other bullshit have no understanding of what was and is going on here

    This is the most beautiful thing that is now happening on the planet Earth.
    Let it bloom
    Let it dance
    Let it celebrate!

  21. mini kang says:

    Swami Rajneesh interview with Nirman video about why he is offering Free Osho meditations, groups and therapies.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQzmKI-A2TY

    In the past 7 years he has also set up websites with free download Osho books, audios, photos, Osho art and signatures.

    He gives all Osho videos free, they only need to bring a 3 terra bite hard drive and 3000 videos are given free to distribute.

    He says it is the way of his Heart!
    To “share” Osho
    Not “sell” Osho!

  22. ANA says:

    I’ve been working in Ozen Cocom for a bit more than a year. It is drop in the huge ocean of Rajneesh’s work. Such a bliss being a part of the team…no words to describe…Melting in love…intensity.

    Beloved Rajneesh doing an incredible work for this place, paying attention to every single small detail, every person who is working here. When I met him…the new life is started for me…and I am thankful…So much beauty, so much love.

    People who are working here they are sooo…special, beautiful…No words…you just should come and see….

  23. samarpan says:

    Neo-Sannyas is alive in 2015 and Osho is still at work. Projects may start small, like 17, Koregaon Park started, and then they grow…Pune 1 started with 6 acres and now has 40. Pune 1 never had 50 acres to expand into like Ozen Cocom does. Ozen Cocom is beginning with 50 acres.

    Saludos y felicitaciones a ANA, mini kang, Elena Buka, pato, dhyanraj, and all those who have worked so hard to make the new Osho buddhafield a reality. It seems like Ozen Cocom is an acorn ready to become a mighty oak.

  24. meera says:

    You must have missed the lecture where Osho talks about the new MYSTERY SCHOOL.

    It cannot be compared to Poona Resort or Ranch. That mystery school is something totally different.

    And if you want to follow the master into the unknown u must be a rebellious spirit and not calculating your money.

    In fact u must be ready to surrender to whatever Existence wants you.

  25. Svarupa says:

    Goodness gracious, what a lot of busy buzz zz zz ness. Good luck and love.

  26. Marta Medina Muro says:

    Trying to live the present, trying not to make judgments, all of us, Sannyas and not Sannyas, in search of serenity and trascendental life, should really avoid comments of this type.

    I met Rajneesh in Spain about 8 years ago, following one of his dynamic meditations. Afterwards, I spent two months near him in Goa, three years ago I went to Mexico to live the evolution of the project moving from Goa to Mexico, and today I’m again in Yucatan, living in the Cocom for some weeks.

    This is the best university you could be in. Useless to learn ‘things’ if you haven´t first the knowledge of yourself. There´s nothing out of oneself.

  27. sw anand shunyam says:

    Very good.

  28. Elena Buka says:

    This place is the best thing that is happening now on the planet Earth.
    It is full of hearts that were willing to create it.
    It is full of beauty.
    So much work was done.
    So many problems arised!
    Nobody stopped! Everyone was trying hard to do their best for this place!
    And now all the beautifull seekers are welcome!!!
    Who wants to talk can talk, blah, blah, blah.
    Who wants to experiment and dance, come, come, come!! :)

    • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

      “Who wants to talk can talk, blah, blah, blah.
      Who wants to experiment and dance, come, come, come!! :)

      Take care, Elena, as soon as you´re moving your keyboard to write such, you are part of it, as anybody else.

      And that doesn´t diminish in my eyes your passionate invitation to a wonderful place, all of you, fabulously created.

      It´s just to say, we´re all standing on invisible ´shoulders´, whether we acknowledge that or not.

      With love,

      Madhu

      • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

        P.S:

        And Elena or other bloggers here too:
        I might not be the only one knowing nothing about the ´history´ of previous fights and their kind of streching around the globe via Pune, Goa, Europe, and finding a kind of end (?) and roots in Mexico. Its after-effects then but being felt in the blog thread.

        And if somebody (more acquainted with facts here) says “Good Luck”, I may follow that from afar, as well as also say (which I did) it´s nice to keep in mind that the living is a river AND and also it’s true that we are standing on many invisible shoulders while passing ´rivers´.

      • Elena Buka says:

        Madhu, are you trying to catch me using my words? I have nothing to lose, I already came to Cocom. But those who didn’t come are wasting their time uselessly writing here their comments. They don’t want to exeriment and meditate. Otherwise they would be doing it and not spreading their mud.

        But if they don’t want to come, why write bullshit?! Just because they want to say something? In Russia we call it gag for every barrel. Obviously those who are in Ozen Cocom will tell that it’s a great place and they will never listen to idiots who have never been here. And those who are going to come will never listen to any idiots saying negative things about Cocom and Rajneesh. So why write all this?

        There are toilets, no need to shit everywhere!

        • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

          Yes, Elena Buka,
          There are toilets – indeed, no need to shit everywhere! I totally agree.

          Otherwise, three days ago, I tried my best to respond to your contribution in an open UK Sannyas, and Sannyas Friends chat room, called ´caravanserai’.

          Best wishes,

          Madhu

          P.S:
          I have not been into ´catching´ anything, Elena. I am very slow (could be your granny…probably) – and anyway well known here as being too ‘icky’ for tarantula kind and other verbal-jungle ´surprises´).

          Maybe you read again what I wrote? Or not….

  29. Parmartha says:

    This sort of herculean effort is widely praised here, and by myself also.

    Nonetheless, within Sannyas we do have to consider the Ranch and satellite communes around the world, which covered itself in glory within three years between 1981 and 1984, by the production of a much-lauded city. And it was impressive, and I shared in that creation. It required unstinting effort and love.

    Sadly. it had a flaw at its heart which was basically unquestioning ‘obedience’ which led to its collapse. The paradox was that this unstinting obedience made it much easier to create something materially so impressive.

    Let’s hope this major lesson is not being ignored in Mexico.

    • Arpana says:

      That’s a good point. Fascism is more efficient than liberalism.

      • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

        Yes, a good point indeed, Arpana; and another might be to reflect on the sinister mechanisms of self-fulfilling ´prophecies´ at work. Just to be aware of it, as to everybody´s best capacity.

        Madhu

      • prem martyn says:

        That’s a belief exposed so it won’t be going anywhere soon. Which in turn makes it transparent. Fascism made transparent is an attribute of truth over time. Hence libertarianism as inherent/enduring, addressable by truth, although undemonstrable. In contrast to ‘proseltysing’ as created and maintained and prone to self-destruct over time by inward or outward forces attracted to it.

        Without manufactured consent and with libertarian lip-service in praxis, THEN fascism is promoted. Fascism requires consent, but of a weakened type.

        Hence the search for Osho’s absolute unapologising yet apparently redeeming autonomy as a personal not collective model. But from where did that arise? Aye, there’s the rub.

        Try to copy it, especially en masse, and it becomes fascistic; all orthodoxies are thus consigned.

        • swami atmo says:

          Prem Martyn,

          Are you enjoying your life? It doesn’t seem so…In all your intellectual reasoning something is missing…joy…fresh flow from inside.

        • Kavita says:

          Martyn, what you say makes total, absolute sense, but how can this be humanly possible in totality in the absolute sense, I wonder?

          • prem martyn says:

            Kavita…

            Sense makes sense, there’s no how there – although the implication is what counts in practice, I agree.

            But there is no absolute, like truth, as sense is contextual. Truth doesn’t even partner up with integrity very easily if judged by others’ actions. My truth, your truth, our truth…or do we mean values?

            Making sense is very useful, workable, just like companionship and reliability. It generally works hand-in-hand with personality, preference, mutual self-interest, intentions, etc.

            For truth to exist there must have to be a loss of identity, it seems, because it is history/identity that restrains energy. Truth cannot afford that restriction/attachment In Oliver Sachs’ books (the neuropsychologist) he often describes how a loss of self releases pure capacity for totality/absorbtion, even through simple neurological damage.

            For further reflection I like these from Havel, of course:

            “The deeper the experience of an absence of meaning – in other words, of absurdity – the more energetically meaning is sought.”

            And this :

            “The truth is not simply what you think it is; it is also the circumstances in which it is said, and to whom, why, and how it is said.”

    • Kavita says:

      “Let’s hope this major lesson is not being ignored in Mexico.”

      In any case there is not much we can do about that, just wait & watch!

    • dhyanraj says:

      Ah well, Parmartha – I suppose in the end you just couldn’t resist making some negative comment to cast doubt on the creation of our new buddhafield, eh? And to change the subject quick with a new topic of discussion for sannyasnews.

      Yes, we all must be brainwashed, obedient robots, eh, or we wouldn’t have been able to make the place? You know, Parmartha – that’s not right.

      A new buddhafield is needed in Osho’s world of Sannyas; we have built the kitchen for the master to work in, now the cooking will start – and you start on about lessons from Rajneeshpuram. Do you imagine that Rajneesh does not know the past mistakes of Osho?

      • satyadeva says:

        That’s a rather over-touchy response, Dhyan Raj, reminiscent of how you came across a few years ago here, and as such not exactly guaranteed to ‘win friends and influence people’.

        No need to be so defensive, Parmartha made a perfectly valid, timely point so why not simply acknowledge that, with good grace, and assure us all that such an eventuality has been well covered by the power(s)-that-be in your set-up?

        As for “changing the topic”, well, no need to be over-anxious, what’s stopping anyone so inclined from pursuing ‘yours’?

      • Parmartha says:

        DR,
        I was sometimes accused of negativity, though not often, in Pune 1, Medina and the Ranch. Looking back, on those occasions I was right, and wished I had pushed a few points more, but am sure I would have been ejected.

        As I remember, Rajneesh himself had numerous problems with the ashram authorities, and good on him I would say.

        My comment was just a reminder, I respect what you have done there. You know me well enough to know that is a genuine sentiment.

        Love,
        P.

        • Avery Wiseman says:

          Welcome to Clonestown!

          • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

            Avery Wiseman,

            Would you mind to say what you mean with “Welcome to Clonestown!”?

            And who is you?

            Madhu

        • dhyanraj says:

          Yes, Parmartha – perhaps i was a bit hard on you – we are friends after all. For me though, this talk about fascism from few people here is simply parrotting anti-Osho propaganda. Those who worked in those historical communes of Osho out of love and devotion, such as yourself and me – did we do it because we were obedient people? Oh no, not at all! We were rebels with a common higher purpose in life – and to support the buddha and the buddhafield around him is the highest thing one can do with one’s life for me.

          What is more worth to do with one’s life than create the opportunity for those seekers who can transcend their small fake identities into no-mind, eh?

    • meera says:

      Mexico cannot be compared with Ranch or Resort.

  30. meera says:

    SO,
    Just stand a little aside and not in your own way…lol

    ‘Sannyasins’…

    “Sannyas means to become consecrated to God,
    Surrendered to God.

    Sannyas means allowing God to live through you.

    You simply stand aside,
    You don’t come in between,
    You don’t hinder.

    You open all the doors,
    To the sun,
    To the moon,
    To the wind,
    To the rain
    To all the messengers of God.

    You are simply available
    To Existence
    With your whole heart,
    Without holding anything back.

    In that very moment,
    When you are not holding anything back,
    Prayer has happened.

    In that very moment,
    The ego is no more,
    The barrier has fallen.

    And suddenly,
    We are one
    With the Whole.

    And to be one
    With the Whole
    Is bliss,
    Is benediction.

    To remain separate from the whole
    Is misery.

    Because it is not according to Nature,
    It is not according to the fundamental law,
    It is not true –
    That’s why it creates misery.

    When we are one
    With the Whole
    We have accepted the Truth
    And dropped the lie.

    To be true
    Is enough to bring tremendous bliss to you.”

    !! OSHO !!

  31. Parvez Bahri says:

    As a seeker of truth, Ozen Cocom is the final frontier, the gates to your self-liberation and an oasis paradise in the heart of most exotic and attractive happening city of Mexico, ‘Playa Del Carmen’.

    From a spiritual perspective, we all know about the typical approach to reaching the truth through ways that one in today’s generation is not capable of pursuing. Gautama the Buddha is one of the prime examples: leaving the kingdom as a prince with loved wife and kids and not knowing where to head to in seach of fulfilling his thirst.

    Here you have a living master, Swami Rajneesh, doing everything in his ability to humbly create a Buddhafield where all the sannyasins’ candles in their hearts could be lit up. Let’s all keep an open mind and experience this place and Swami Rajneesh for ourselves before blindly repelling him because someone told us to do so. Otherwise, how can we call ourselves civilized, evolved souls?

    My name is Parvez and I came to Ozen Cocom February this year as a volunteer offering a helping hand to build the Ashram but at the same time in hopes of seeking Osho’s wisdom and light in a living Buddha. And Swami Rajneesh, my beloved master, revived my dying light and transformed my being while in the midst of intensive work making the dream a reality.

    My two cents I thought I would share with you all beautiful buddhas.

    One Love!

  32. Lila says:

    Ozen Cocom is everything and more than what you see in the photos and videos. In a secluded Mexican jungle, every single structure is so aesthetically pleasing, everything here is art, even the bathrooms.

    Every morning when I wake up I go for Dynamic and when I open my eyes after the meditation all I see is the greenery, pure nature. I have breakfast with other sannyasins and we head off to work. What else can I ask for?

    The people of Ozen Cocom are sharing the news about a place that is for once, non-profit and non-commercial. Everything here was hand-made with love, dedication, and all meditations, groups, therapies will be free of cost becase we cannot put a price on a seeker’s thirst.

    I feel so happy and blessed with my life that I wish every girl can feel what I feel!

  33. Hamid rk says:

    Ozen cocom, this place is full of love and peace. It’s been almost a month for me being here and the light inside me which was dying in Canada was saved just being around such an amazing master who holds me with his open arms. It brought tears into my eyes and the internal light will always stay with me.

    The master is beyond words to describe, you have to be here to experience it yourself. You would never know such an amazing place exists with such an intense, vibrating energy and people.

    Hands down to ‘him’, the one and only who has transformed an ordinary jungle into a living paradise!

  34. meera says:

    Are all people here waiting moderation or I´m the only one? Lol to be a bit of a fascist attitude.

    MOD: NO, WE’RE PICKING ON YOU ALONE, MEERA, AS WE RECKON WITH THAT LEVEL OF IMPATIENCE YOU NEED TO EXPERIENCE WHAT OSHO TERMED “A TASTE OF FASCISM.” (LOL)

  35. Chinmayo says:

    OZEN RAJNEESH WALKS HIS TALK

    and after talks his walk
    to poke the folk
    that doesn’t walk his talk

    he talks and talks
    and talks and talks
    to poke the ass
    of certain folks

    he walks and talks His walks
    to poke the folk that talks and talks
    about something which he never walks

    but mostly He talks and walks
    His talks and walks
    to inspire the ones who wish to walk

    those that recognize that talk is talk and walk is walk

    those same ones who know that

    enlightenment talks through the walk
    of a certain folk
    the same one whom here walks his talk
    and talks his walk.

  36. Maggie says:

    I’m a girl from China. To me, Ozen is such a special place that you cannot find anywhere in this world. Here you meet people from all over the world. We live together, work together and also meditate together.

    What we are building here is a new community, more scientific, healthier for future generation. Beautiful nature, fresh air, simple and meditative lifestyle. Here you can simply be yourself and be natural, which you can find less and less in the city life.

    And meditation makes it not only mundane life but spiritual. And our máster Rajneesh has decided to make all the meditation free…So it is a place truly out of love, not for commercial purpose. I deeply thank my máster!

  37. Swami Ali says:

    Hello. My name Ivan Ivanovski. My sannyas name give me by Swami Rajneesh: Swami Ali. I meet Master in Moscow. I immediately know he emlightened. I know he real leader. He not wear shirt – this just like Vladimir Putin. He real man. he not afraid to show big breasts in public, not like leaders of ashram resort and other western leaders.

    Dhyanraj also great man, he also show breasts but they more wobbling like English black pudding, but I want get enlightened in this lifetime so I not judge and just blah blah blah on internet like negative Sannyasnews people who say Dhyanraj spend 10 years in Koreagaon Park in darkened room watching TV, smoking waco baccy and playing with himself.

    Also negativity people say because Rajneesh walk, talk, dress, act, speak like Osho he imitating – these people no meditate but hate Osho.

    I go soon to Osho Cocoon. I want meet beautiful people. I want meet Meera,I think I can have very good conversation with her. She speak very sensitive, intelligent and original thoughts and also not afraid to use violence against fascists. This good. I Russian. I meet fascists, I crush testicles. We Russian very strong.

    I also want meet and have quiet east Asian girlfriend like Swami Rajneesh. They quiet and obey all orders. This very good. They not have mind of own like western women who have mind of their own which very noisy and like Master is teaching is nothing but the mind!

    In Russia, before I put in hospital, I in Russian army ,so I can work hard for commune and if they have problems with negativity people I can use martial arts training to chop body parts in Zen way, like Rajneesh is advising.

    In army ,I have spiritual experiences but army no understand so put me in hospital and give electric shock treatment. When I get out and meet Swami Rajneesh in meditation camp I realise full-functioning brain not necessary. Brain damage no problem for enlightenment. The Master teach me this. Dhyan Raj also lead by example. This I am very grateful.

    I have no money but no money necessary in Osho Cocom. Instead, I grow beard and now looking very wise. Therapy not necessary for me. Buddha not have therapy. Mahavira not have therapy. Osho not have therapy. Rajneesh not have therapy. Dhyan Raj had little therapy, that why he sometimes blah blah blah with baboons on Sannyasnews, he not completely mindless just yet, but Rajneesh is devising many techniques to make it happen!

    Tommorow I fly Osho Cocom.
    I write my experiences from there.

    • sannyasnews says:

      Ha Ha, very funny.
      Maybe this is Frank or Yogi come back in another name!

    • swami atmo says:

      Humour is always good – but why remain comic from third-rate comedy show if humour of higher planes is available? Near Rajneesh you will know what is real laughing…some sense of humour deep inside you is still waiting to be released.

      • Swami Ali says:

        I no understand this laughing, so-called English sense of humour. For real man, Russian man, not homosexual giggling like girl, this not funny.

        As disciple of Osho it very important for me that new Red Army of Sannyas led by Swami Rajneesh must take back Koregaon Park just like fearless, topless Putin take back Crimea and Ukraine from interfering western baboons.

        Osho Cocom buddhafield cannot just remain ‘Internet Pirates of Carribean’ for ever. New movie must be more ‘Stalingrad’. With my old comrades from Russian Army and Chernobyl electroshock hospital, I can do it!

        I very strong like big bear and now with power of enlightened unconditional love of master, even stronger. Like bear eating huge pot of honey!

        I go to Osho Cocoon tomorrow to put plan on table and take pictures of me and Rajneesh topless in jungle for press release.

        • Lokesh says:

          Thus spoke Alithustra.

        • Swami Vimoksha says:

          I wanna be like Swami Ali!!! We can crush more testicles together! Chuck, chuck, one, two, three.. Yes or no?

        • prem martyn says:

          Anand Yogi,

          I have begun looking at humanity with different eyes since I understood how powerful beards are for obtaining wisdom.

          Here I have posted some pictures of therapriests who have returned from the Ozeesh Cocacancunut resort to spread the news in the streets of the United Kingdom. As you can see, they all show their newly found devotion by resembling each other in look, walk, talk and sometimes also by an overpowering form of radiating aromatherapy.

          But they have changed radically Osho’s original message: instead of offering help in therapy at vastly expensive cost to the bourgeoisie, they now need it desperately, instead!

          What magic Ozen Redjeesh has made for them to help mend the errors of their ways.

          With Redneesh’s charity, and those rich friends of his who have all made their money by simply giving it away first, we can at last relax. I am so happy to help unburden their own bourgeois ploys, even late in the game.

          He is such a humble fellow of such compassion who celebrated therapist Sudha’s death, as we would all want to be celebrated in death – by gloating in her passing, in a video of his discussed on SN some years ago. What charm the man has.

          Love,
          Swami Billji Gatesjeesh

          P.S:
          Do you recognise anyone in the photo?

          • Swami Vimoksha says:

            There are politicians earning their money by killing people, creating wars, making frienship with criminals. All this system is wrong! And you showing your silly unhappiness with your own conclusions about Rajneesh?

            He is making something really meaningful not only in ‘Oshoworld’, but in the world itself! And what ‘magic’ you made for anybody (even not talking about your master)? You must be really stupid. Fooling yourself with your own sarcasm.

    • Tan says:

      Swami Ali, I am crying with laughter and can’t stop…looking forward for tomorrow. XXX

      • prem martyn says:

        Thank f’ for the Seventh Cavalry. I was just about ready to do my Michael Caine impression in ‘Zulu’ – faced with huge numbers of the brutes surrounding the last post- and then Swami Ali came rushing in with re-enforcements…

        (rushing – geddit? Ok, ok, I’ll call quality control next time, I know when to raise the white flag…).

    • dhyanraj says:

      Good to hear from you again, swami, ali my old friend. I am glad to hear you will be gracing us with your presence here in Ozen Cocom soon – any fascists wanting to come here better think again, Ozen Cocom needs strong men like you to protect peace-loving meditators from unwanted attentions of such types.

      Thanks for correcting the rumours going around about my former life in Koregaon Park – every one who knew me then knows I was a respectable magic stones dealer and part-time Laotzu gate guard in the nineties and not only the stoned wanker they say to rubbish my reputation as an enlightened man, a reputation carefully cultivated by growing the long beard to show how wise I am in fact.

      Now I have adopted a rainbow turban, like fellow-guard Sardar Gurudial Singh, to make me look even more holy.

  38. Arpana says:

    “if person has no money he is still welcomed.”
    That;s impressive. Very Christian.

    London to Mexico City by air: $1100.
    That’s really super, helping poor young people with their mobile phones who can afford $1100 to get to Mexico, and then shell out more to get back. Plus the cost there and back to your project.

    Mini Klang said it cost $3000 to do Mystic Rose in Poona. A huge part of that is air fare. How are you different? Maybe if the Poona Ashram had a multi-millionare throwing money at them they could charge less.

    • samarpan says:

      If you shop around and book in advance, you can find flights much cheaper than $1100, Arpana, though your point is moot. No place of spiritual growth in the world is going to pay your airfare to get there.

      And why would anyone fly to Mexico City? The Osho commune is minutes from Cancún. Cancún is where you want to fly to.

      LONDON TO CANCUN (travelling in February or April 2016):
      $736.53: Roundtrip price for 1 traveller, including taxes and fees.
      9:30am to 2:10pm Travel time: 10h 40m
      Heathrow (LHR) to George Bush Intercontinental (IAH) to Cancún (CUN)
      Austrian Airlines 7809 operated by United
      Economy/Coach (K) Boeing 767-300

  39. shantam prem says:

    I think Swami Ali has stolen the show.
    Name is fake but the person is real.

  40. Anand says:

    First of all…Happy New Year to everyone! I really hope everybody makes the best of it and enjoys it to the max!

    Having said that…

    I’m really surprised at how much animosity there is towards Rajneesh, really surprised, though I understand, it’s still shocking. Why? Because this unique individual has done something no other sannyasin has done before: create an open, non-snobbish, free ashram for seekers across the globe.

    The project is even more beautiful than the first designs, it is a living paradise, changing and adapting everyday, new plans and ideas and surprises come up constantly. There’s the love of the meditators, their hard work, their creativity, skill, awareness and sweat put into it, from people all over the world.

    Osho is still the most beloved, the light shining on our paths, Rajneesh is carrying the flame, as each one of us sannyasins. The difference is Rajneesh has actually decided to take the big work unto his shoulders. Some sannyasins don’t appreciate this, filling their minds with small nonsense like: “What about the cost of the plane ticket to Mexico?” Well, maybe you don’t know Ozen’s complete vision, I’m sure I don’t completely, so let me give you a bit of extra information and things to ponder upon:

    Plane ticket to Mexico? Is this ashram only for Europeans? Indians? Are there no people in Mexico? (Please check how many MILLIONS live in this country alone). Also, this ashram is JUST the beginning, the first pebble of the temple of Love of my Master. Many more will be created soon all over the world. So you can save some money and come, or wait some time and go to a nearer Cocom.

    Is it really free? Yes. I’m sure most of you know about S.N.Goenka and his wildly successful franchise. He gives EVERYTHING for free, even the food and tea you take, absolutely free. How does it manage to expand so vastly? The loving hearts of those grateful for receiving the gift of Birmanian Vipassana.

    Now, if you really want to find a straw in these eyes, maybe you should know that Playa’s jungle is WILD. Yes, lots of mosquitoes, tarantulas, tabanos and even snakes. Maybe that could be a reason not to enjoy the buddha’s paradise, if you are too icky. But, let me add that there are many things being done to counter this, and probably the only really tough season is summer.

    As far as everything else is concerned, the place is flawless. Why? Because Rajneesh and his team are working on it 24/7, and Rajneesh is impeccable; this you probably don’t know because you haven’t worked with him. Have you seen Devil Wears Prada? The same thing, but full of intelligence and compassion.

    I really don’t expect many of the usual writers here to agree with me, as Osho taught us so well, the mind can wrap itself around any possible idea, no matter how crazy or nonsensical it might be.

    I hope this ashram is the beginning of a new birth of ‘our’ movement (Osho clearly said that the Sannyas movement is not his movement, but the movement of the seekers of Truth), because this world needs as much light as it can get, and why not for the fun of it too?!

    My deep gratitude towards Rajneesh and all the beloved souls around him. Amazing job, guys…& lt;3

    MOD: ANAND, lt;3 MEANS WHAT, PLEASE?

  41. mini kang says:

    Yes, I can reply to Lokesh here:

    There are no copyrights to Osho materials. We all know that Osho never gave any copyrights and they have been forged by Osho Poona Resort managers. These same managers have FORGED Osho will!

    Yes, Swami Rajneesh is giving all Osho materials for free on internet as it is, according to him, property of all seekers.

    It anyway does not belong to Osho Resort managers, who are just stealing all the money and putting into personal banks.

    Osho wanted to distribute his message at cost, and now internet is free. Why sell books at such profits? To spread his message or to make a business out of Osho message?

    If Swami Rajneesh is giving all Osho materials for free (which he did not create himself) then same way, why are Osho Resort managers stealing all this money from selling data which they never created themselves?

    And Group leaders and Therapists are selling Osho meditations for business. They have not created these meditations, so have no right to sell something they did not make. Just by doing one course they make a Business out of what OSHO created?

    The Wisdom Of Insecurity:
    All the people here in Ozen Cocom live our lives with the wisdom of insecurity. Rajneesh himself says that only inner security is of real value. We are offering everything for Free. With no Fear and not searching any security. We know what it means to live in Insecurity, as we are proving by our actions.

  42. swami devamali says:

    I hope one day, when all the bitching is over, we can all love each other again.

  43. Kavita says:

    Yes, Sir, Saluté.

    • Kavita says:

      Kavita says:
      31 December, 2015 at 9:25 am
      Yes, Sir, Saluté.

      is a reply to

      prem martyn says:
      31 December, 2015 at 12:20 am.

  44. shantam prem says:

    Let me say honestly, if I feel a bit of sibling rivalry, it can be only with Rajneesh and no other disciple, living or dead.

    This is my compliment to Rajneesh, Mini, Dhynaraj and their beloved fellow-travellers.

  45. Parmartha says:

    When I lived in Pune 1, in Medina, in the Hamburg commune, and on the Ranch as a full commune member I can remember having ‘flashes’ of an insight that however wonderful it was from time to time, it was a closed world.

    I remember one demonstrative example of that: when the Medina ‘leader’, Poonam, turned on me and said, did I know that the UK had been at war with Argentina for nearly a week before she knew?! She had been embarrassed by this in some business meeting she had had in London.

    After that the commune solicitor had an extra job, to read the Guardian every day and report anything of major significance.

    Rajneesh, Dhyan Raj and crew deserve plaudits for what they have done in Mexico, and may it continue to show its early strength. But dont forget, as Shanti seems to imply somewhere here, that there are many strands of Osho. For example, in Costa Rica there is a much less self-advertising commune that has been around for 10 years or more called Paca Mama.

    People associated with SN who have been there say that ‘Osho’ is there and Tyohar has an unobtrusive style of leadership. AND, they do seem in touch with the world! They even know the football results, and play and watch games!

    People forget that Tyohar himself was banned from the ashram in 1991, but his response is much the same as Rajneesh, to create one’s own commune.

    In both cases, and there are others in India, this seems a healthy response. In fact, a hundred times more healthy than waiting for regime change in Pune.

    The fact of the matter is that Osho himself did not like Pune very much, and always told his close disciples he wanted to be in the Himalayas. It would certainly have agreed more with his health. Pune is now a very polluted place, and was, even when Osho was alive.

  46. Parmartha says:

    This string has prompted a Lokesh-inspired discussion abut enlightenment.

    The point is that if such a state exists it is not ‘protective’. All human beings make mistakes, and that includes the enlightened, if you have to use that term.

    It is a sad fact for many from the sub-continent that a much better division of men is those who can acknowledge and see their own mistakes, and who attract those around them who are of like mind. Then that elusive ‘flavour’ of real communication begins to come through.

    My own view is what Rumi and others were talking about when they referred to “Sorbet” was close to this, and in any case one might call such a definition a “Modern Sorbet”.

    A truly spiritual ‘conversation’ needs that, and of course it is elusive. And it ain’t easy either! Much easier to simply sit at the feet of a Master who thinks for you, and with whom no conversation of this type takes place.

    • Arpana says:

      So much of what constitutes ‘mistake’ is not conforming to the ideas and expectations of some fucker or other, who’s a perfectionist, who expects a 1000%-plus from others and 1% from themselves.

      • Arpana says:

        The perfectionist usually cant deliver the goods themselves, and the more they are incapable of delivering the goods themselves, the bigger pricks they are about their expectations of others.

    • dhyanraj says:

      I don’t understand what you are saying, Parmartha – enlightenment is not ‘protective’, you say? Spiritual conversations? Acknowledging mistakes – what does any of that have to do with moving into no-mind, eh?

      Since I am enlightened I will tell you and for free – absolutely nothing!! It’s all intellectual bollocks.

      Then you rubbish the relationship of masters with their disciples, masters who you say think for you and you become a robot slave, I suppose you mean to imply – all rubbish, Parmartha.

      I don’t know anything about Rumi or his “sorbet” – what I have experienced is the energy created around Osho and his buddhafield, and lately around Rajneesh and the new buddhafield. My God, Sannyas News intellectuals will make mind stew out of simple stuff – can’t you understand no-mind?

      This is why I never became a guru, Parmartha, after my enlightenment: people are simply too stupid and only deserve a good kicking in vain attempt to awaken them – and even that will not work, I know.

      • Parmartha says:

        Hi DR,
        On the subject of mistakes, Osho himself answered me once, he said it was good to recognise that they were the ways humankind advanced in all fields. The point was to make as many mistakes as possible, and as quickly as possible. So I don’t think this domain of discourse about mistakes should be debarred.

        I am interested to read ‘you’ are now self-declared enlightened. Don’t forget one of Osho’s whole books was called ‘Beyond Enlightenment’.

        I saw that book at the time as Osho trying to shift the focus from enlightenment.
        If in one paradigm people want to talk of being enlightened, etc, fair enough. But there is nothing ‘intellectual’ about common sense.

        My take on it is that the Master/disiciple paradigm is something rooted in history, and basically a zen thing. Whether it really fits here and now, I doubt.

        • dhyanraj says:

          Parmartha,
          Zen is a word meaning meditation, coming from the Sanskrit word dhyan. Meditation is as relevant today as it ever was for those who are seeking the truth of themselves. Master-disciple relationships have existed since historical times and beyond – they have only ever fitted with a few people who can fall in tune with the master. Of course, it will not be of any use to the vast majority of people who will not be interested.

          When you talk of paradigms I have no idea what you are on about – sounds clever though, so I suppose that must be the main thing, eh?

          Good you remind me that enlightenment is only the beginning and there is a beyond enlightenment also – in fact, the journey of life never ends.

          There are many who are enlightened and don’t know it – I myself forgot I was enlightened for years. It’s not something that you remind yourself everyday, but it happened long ago.

          Anyway, those who long to go beyond their small identity and experience enlightenment, such as my friend Swami Ali can take heart from me: “If even an idiotic wanker like Dhyanraj can become enlightened then what is the barrier for me?”

        • Swami Ali says:

          Beloved Dhyanraj
          You say people `too stupid and only deserve a good kicking`. You right. I understand.
          This also my observation in Russian army and observation of all strong men with shirt off and good breasts.

          Violence only language unenlightened fools understand! You speak same language like me comrade! We can chop body parts and put foot in ass together!

          #Listen- you need professional combat training people like me in Osho Cocoon sangha. You sound violent -that is good-but look like hippy burn-out – you need special forces led by Swami Ali to give good kicking to intellectuals who make mind stew out of enlightenment and not eat good Russian goulash with beetroot and chopped dicks.

          Also no need to acknowledge mistakes when strong leader and enlightened too. This acknowledging mistakes for unconscious baboons,intellectuals,homosexuals,people with mind and enemies.

          I help you crush them like parasites.

          You worry giving good kicking not work.
          No need to be negative my brother. Swami Ali is here.
          I Russian. Very strong like hungry angry bear.
          You wait. I come Osho Cocoon very soon.

          Skoro uvidimsya!

          • dhyanraj says:

            So encouraged to have you on our side, Ali my friend – I have violent feelings when confronted by idiotic, brainwashed robots day after day. Yet unfortunately, no training to overcome my own limitations as a stoned-out wanker who no-one will respect.

            Looking forward to your Russian army-style foot in arse techniques to correct this anomaly and teach the fools some wisdom.

            And thanks for your brillant insights about mistakes – why bother acknowledging any? Once you start doing that you quickly logically reach the conclusion that the whole bloody planet and life on it is a mistake and thinking of ways to end the misery of humanity once and for all. Not by pansy stuff like vipassana meditation but by finding a way to wipe the whole lot of us out in hopes that mass death will cleanse the existence of all this ignorant mind rubbish, eh?

            • Swami Ali says:

              Beloved Dhyanraj,
              You right. You very good philosophy even though have no mind.

              If acknowledge mistakes in life then necessary logically reach the conclusion that the whole bloody planet and life on it is a mistake and then think of ways to end the misery of humanity once and for all.
              This true.

              This why enlightened ones and great men not acknowledge mistakes – this way to save the world from global suicide – very compassionate.

              You insight go very deep. I respect very much.

              When one my students say I make mistake I beat very hard. My wife also. Then feel very good, like satori. Neccesary to beat in order to save world otherwise necessary to destroy whole world.

              Also very conscious to direct anger at idiotic, brainwashed robots who all speak same words like cloned sheep. This way to spread Osho dream.

              You say you stoned-out wanker and cartoon character but you very modest. Truth is, you enlightened, stoned-out wanker cartoon character but only chosen few can see this. This very good device to separate sheep from goats!

              If enlightenment wears off, you welcome at Chernobyl electroshock hospital. There also have latest technology for removing all ignorant mind-rubbish. Very effective.

              Skoro uvidimsya!

  47. Tan says:

    Swami Ali, 8:07 pm: to finish 2015 with laughter is a real blessing. Thanks, you, who brought a bit of no mind disguised as entertainment to this crazy SN. Much appreciate your intelligence and good will. Cheers!

    • swami atmo says:

      I beg to differ, tan

      It is not a bit of no mind, but a bit of mind which is obviously jealous about beautiful project, created by a huge attempts of dozens of people as a place for free dancing, meditation, laughing, celebration and discovering their true nature…

      Many young, beautiful and juicy people who are now in commune left their reasonable, honest and intelligent comments here with impressions about this place, and if, in spite of direct comments and objections person is hiding behind the mask of sarcasm it just shows that he has nothing to say directly against this project and still can not remain silent so sarcasm is nothing but his last shelter.

      I can understand such people but should state the fact that such comments just show their rotten conciousness and sick mind…And appreciating such “intelligence” you show your blindness and nothing more.

      If you could look carefully at such comments then in spite of saying thanks you would be very compassionate to a person with a lack of ability to participate in something really meaningful and beautiful which happens right now on a planet where he lives.

      So next time, think twice and don’t be childish, please.

      • satyadeva says:

        When someone discovers something they find (or hope they will find) exciting, life-transforming even, whether, for example, it’s music, a writer, a therapy, following a football team, an ideology, philosophy, or a new guru, then it’s understandable, natural even, to want to ‘broadcast’ that to people they know, even to strangers, and urge them to follow suit, isn’t it?

        Haven’t we all experienced that sometimes almost messianic feeling that ‘everyone ought to do/like/follow this, they’re missing out if they don’t'? Only to find that responses might well vary, from the enthusiastic to the condemnatory, via the ‘interested’, the mildly curious, the uninterested, the satirical and the critical?

        Passionate advocates of anything, seeking to ‘convert’ others (because that’s what it often amounts to) need to recognise the simple reality that what suits one person, or one set of people, doesn’t necessarily suit others. And what might be right for a person at one time will almost certainly not necessarily be right at another time. That’s just how life is, it moves on.

        And unfortunately for the ‘enthusiasts/broadcasters/experience-and-hope sharers/propagandists’, the more the particular message is broadcast, especially in a patronising manner, as if their audience are inexperienced fools, and to the extent it’s ‘pushed down people’s throats’, as it were, the greater will be the resistance, and the more antagonism, even hostility, will be generated.

        Which, I imagine, is surely counter-productive, contrary to the purpose of the exercise, isn’t it?

        • Lokesh says:

          SD, good post.

        • swami atmo says:

          Sorry, Satyadeva, I should be honest with you: nobody is interested to convert anybody, especially people like you or Prem Martyn and etc…maybe only out of sheer compassion.

          But if you several days writing message after message and I don’t see any meaning in these messages I should state simple fact that you are filling comments with garbage and leaving this garbage has certain psychological reasons.

          If I am not right, please in short write here list of reasonable objections: number 1, number 2, number 3. The only thing which till now I’ve read from you was that Rajneesh provides therapies although he said before against therapies…but even this your objection is simply lie.

          So it is not a question of converting anybody but just attempt to understand what all these comments are about? Now it all seems sheer garbage, verbal vomiting of sick, unjuicy persons. If I am not right, please write list of objections about topic.

          • Kavita says:

            Swami Atmo, can you explain what compassion is?

            • satyadeva says:

              It’s often enough, Kavita, a term bandied around in ‘spiritual’ circles, which can allow certain people to make patronising, condescending comments, which, by implication, place themselves on an altogether ‘higher’ level than those whom they are addressing.

              Atmo’s recent use of the word with regard to Martyn and me is such an example, ie sheer, unadulterated humbug! Similar, in a way, to the use of the term “beloved” – also used by Atmo towards me (but not today, when he seems rather angry!) – when used to address people the writer doesn’t know at all.

              • Kavita says:

                Actually, SD, when I was a new sannyasin, nearly more than two decades ago & I confidently used such words, my boyfriend would interrogate me about that & it took me quite a while to get even 0.infinitely 01 % of the real meaning.

                Even now it seems such words are far beyond my understanding. I am grateful to my boyfriend & now here the SN-ners too, who question me, as it is mostly a welcome challenge for me now to share my innermost, whatever there is to share.

                Somehow I think & feel Rajneesh deliberately sends his homegrown organic produce to SN to have their nutritional value checked! Rajneesh knows in his heart the stringiest of valuers are available freely on SN!

                MOD: stringiest? MEANING, PLEASE?!

              • swami atmo says:

                Satyadeva,

                If you allow me I will also answer.

                When I call you “beloved” I feel exactly this. I would like to call everybody “beloved” in every comment but keep myself because of misunderstanding. I don’t need to know you personally, because this beLOVE is beyond any personality.

                Maybe you don’t know yourself and don’t love yourself, otherwise everybody in the world become beloved, and you are beloved by everybody. But it doesn’t mean I’m gonna always be kind with you, sometimes things should be said straightaway and look rude.

            • swami atmo says:

              Kavita,

              Compassion is a sense of unity with the swan who can fly high but thinks it is just chicken. And not only sence of unity but alive flow towards the swan to help it recall its ability to fly.

              • Kavita says:

                Thank you, Swami Atmo.

                So compassion is converting the one who does not share same views to one’s own view, according to your 1 January, 2016 at 11:37 am comment, that’s what I am guessing.

                • swami atmo says:

                  Kavita,

                  Of course it was a kind of joke and certain sarcasm in that message, but if you want an answer to your question:
                  First, person with compassion has not any own view, because any view is blindness, he has a clear vision and only in a state of clear vision compassion can happen. Sometimes, yes, out of compassion you can convert person to some view if he can not understand you directly without any point of view, that’s what Osho has done in his discourses – but he had not any views himself, just clear vision and immense compassion.

                  And I hope you are intelligent enough to see the difference when I am joking and when not.

                • Kavita says:

                  So, is there sarcasm in your comments to Swami Ali too?

                  In your case, until now, you seem to be very serious, calling something you don’t get as lower form of humour. To me, at least Dhyanraj seems to be getting the humour.

                  Anyway, thank you for responding about your view on views & clear vision.

          • satyadeva says:

            Atmo, over the last 6 days I have made certain points clearly enough here, and I am surprised you seem unable to grasp them adequately. Perhaps your own viewpoint, rather than helping to illuminate those of others, in fact tends to obscure them, thus turning them into “garbage” (a word you’ve used 3 times to describe my views in your last post – are you really unable to understand what I’m saying, or are you just frustrated, even angry, that I ‘dare’ to say such things?).

            As for your points in today’s post:
            Re the ‘trying to convert’ issue, well, I’m afraid you’ve again, wilfully or not, misunderstood what I wrote. I was actually careful to say this is “often” the case with people ‘on a mission’, ie implying that it’s not necessarily always true. Still, you’ve refuted that one, thankfully, yet many of the posts from Ozen-Cocom do hint, on some level, at such a (perhaps unconscious?) motivation. Bound to be so, I suppose, perhaps par for the course in such an enterprise.

            Re calling the view that Rajneesh is against therapy “simply lie”, this is not the impression presented by his performance on that Miasto video, where he spoke scathingly about therapy per se, not just about the ‘false status’ enjoyed by therapists in the Sannyas movement. Yes, he might use therapies in his commune, but his attitude was grudging; what he did was to thoroughly damn them with the faintest of praise, reduce them to a very minor significance, which, to me is an exaggerated stance, coming from someone with absolutely zero personal experience in that area (rather like yourself, Atmo, it seems).

            Anyway, my feeling is that you need to go back and re-read the 10 relevant posts I’ve made since last Sunday, ie:
            Sun., Dec. 27, 7.02pm
            Mon., Dec. 28, 4.39pm, 5.40pm, 6.45pm
            Tues., Dec. 29, 1.52pm
            Thurs., Dec. 31, 7.14pm, 7.57pm, 8.16pm, 8.27pm
            Today, Fri., Jan. 1st, 10.28pm.

            If there remains anything you don’t get, let me know, ok?

            Enough for today!

            • swami atmo says:

              Ok, I will try.

              • dhyanraj says:

                What a torture Satyadeva has given you, eh, Atmo: re-read his comments to try and discover his points of objection to Rajneesh. A shame he can’t be bothered to list them simply as you asked.

                The fact is he can’t list them, can he? His objection is an emotional one based on fear and resentment of the Buddha, who is seen as a threat to his tiny, fake identity, which must be protected. It’s well known on sannyasnews that the one calling himself Satyadeva is only a fake persona who is afraid to show his fear-filled face.

                • satyadeva says:

                  For a self-proclaimed “enlightened” man, your judgment is sadly lacking, Dhyan Raj. Perhaps you only think you’re enlightened’, “eh?!” Or maybe you never were too bright anyway?

                  As I pointed out to Atmo, my recent posts are clear enough and it’s down to him to read them properly, not up to me to repeat myself. If you don’t understand such an obvious little issue like that then you’re not really qualified to make such a gratuitously foolish comment.

                  As for “His objection is an emotional one based on fear and resentment of the Buddha, who is seen as a threat to his tiny, fake identity, which must be protected”, well, you would say that, wouldn’t you, “eh?”! Total bollocks (and as such, entirely predictable), but still, pointless to argue, you merely hear what you want to hear, interpret my words to suit yourself. And, on all known evidence, are unlikely to change any time within the next three or four decades.

                  As I said, you don’t come across as the sharpest or most ‘sympathique’ tool in the box, so I won’t waste any more time on you, matey.

                • swami atmo says:

                  Yes, Dhyanraj, it is true, to read Satyadeva’s post is a torture. I hoped he will help me but anyway when I will come back to commune and have more time to read I will do it. I’m really interested what they can really have said against commune.

                • satyadeva says:

                  You’d “hoped” I’d “help” you? Pull the other one, swami! (Ask Dhyan Raj what that means, he’s no doubt your ‘advisor’ in these matters, warning you against ‘fraternising’ too much with ‘the enemy’!). Neat little avoidance strategy – better do what he says though, “eh”?

                • swami atmo says:

                  Satyadeva,

                  I have no enemies here. When I say it is hard to read your posts, it is not enmity, I mean exactly this. I hope in nearest days I will have better conditions to use internet than small, stupid tablet, then I will read and answer.

                • Arpana says:

                  @satyadeva 2 January, 2016 at 10:37 am

                  Something about the way Brian’s cronies are carrying on reminds me of the way the Sheela conformists carried on in the early 80s, the very early days. The same arrogance. Incredibly knowing. Judgemental. Elitist.

                • satyadeva says:

                  Yes, well, Arps, whatever the achievement (which I salute, actually), and whatever the hardships and struggles out there (but it seems to me they’re very well looked after – and why not?) they’re nevertheless in a sort of cocoon, a veritable psychic hothouse (in every sense), the sort of environment that can tend to generate such self-important attitudes and beliefs, including the “we’re going to change the whole world” number.

                  Par for the course for the relatively young and inexperienced (and good luck to them, at least they’re taking action and will learn from the experience, however it pans out) – and not at all uncommon in ‘spiritual’ circles. On current evidence, some might even label it more than somewhat ‘cultish’ – or at least, containing that sort of potential.

                  A problem for them, I reckon, is relying upon the likes of the lugubrious bombast of Dhyan Raj (Swamishanti’s comments on the ‘Little of This’ thread are apt here) and the intermittent squawking of Minnie Kang, to oversee their PR programme. Despite their perhaps admirable commitment, who would ever appoint such a pair to generate goodwill for the project? Er, well, I think we know the answer to that one, don’t we, “eh?”!

          • Tan says:

            @ moderators: Where is my answer to Sw Atmo post of 1st Jan, 9:23?

            MOD: IT’S UP SOMEWHERE, TAN – POSTS ARE GETTING A BIT UNRULY, PROBABLY DUE TO OVERLOAD ON THIS THREAD.

  48. dhyanraj says:

    A photo from New Year’s Eve party last night – these are our own resident working and management team of Ozen-Cocom.

    MOD: WAS THE LAST POST UNDER YOUR NAME (LAST NIGHT,7.31pm) REALLY YOURS, PLEASE, DHYAN RAJ? THE EDITORIAL TEAM THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A SPOOF!

    • Arpana says:

      A photograph of ordinary people who are not members of your elite group having a good time on New Years Eve.

      • swami atmo says:

        Difference is obvious. I noticed that if you want to find in google some image of happy person, never type in google ‘happy person’ – you will see such false smiles as on your photo.

        Better type ‘Osho sannyasins’ and you will find required photos immediately. If you don’t see this difference – I’m really sorry.

    • dhyanraj says:

      If you mean the post responding to Parmartha’s discussion about enlightenment (timed at 7.21 pm) – yes, it was mine.

      I get a bit pissed off sometimes when people talk incomprehensible twaddle about enlightenment and obsess over fears their mind is being taken over by the enlightened ones, who are attempting to take the people connected with them above mind into no-mind – such fears reflect a lack of courage.

      The truth is, all people’s minds are full of bogus bollocks implanted by societies’ mind control techniques – and the fear of losing the mind is simple stupidity: what are you losing by moving into no-mind? Only a small, fear-filled, fake dream-like identity – a movie which will end and die soon anyway.

      I have seen it die in my own life. Real life begins when the fake mind disappears – and mind can then be used in its rightful place as a tool for the consciousness.

      • anand yogi says:

        Perfectly correct Dhyanraj!
        One who has gone beyond the bogus bollocks implanted by societies’ mind control techniques has every right to feel a bit pissed off about those who speak incomprehensible twaddle about enlightenment!

        It is a sad day for enlightenment when the baboons cannot tell the difference between spoof and reality!

        Bhai, I wish you safe journey.

        Not only have you gone beyond the mind, you have gone beyond parody!

        Gate gate
        Paragate
        Parasam gate!
        Yahoo!

        • dhyanraj says:

          Thanks for the compliments, Yogi. As we all know, Osho improved on Buddha’s maxim, “be a light unto oneself”, with his own contribution, “Be a joke unto oneself”.

          This being walking around named Dhyanraj is simply a cartoon character. The enlightened ones are madmen who don’t believe the nutty stuff the mind throws up in its ridiculous ideas of ‘reality’; the consciousness stands outside of it all and watches all this silly game of life unfolding – free and untouched.

    • Marta Medina Muro says:

      This picture represents much. Its the Cocom on New Year’s Eve. Thirty Young and beautiful people, average 30, belonging to 19 different countries! This number is out of any statistics. Even looking for that diversity possibility, it would have been hard to reach. What energies are flowing in this sacred jungle? What Mission is about to burst from this community? Watch everybody laugh or smile, and perceive the truth of sharing the same inner joy. They know they are One in their Being. They all have the same inner message. Nobody knew each other, they all arrived following the same need of growth and detachment .
      How could they, otherwise, feel a same identity having being born, in Chzeck republic, Cánada, Pakistan, Germany, India, Denmark, Vietnam, Argentina, Russia, Afganistan, China, Usa, Mexico, England, South Korea, Holland, Portugal, Belgium and Spain. No matter each personal culture, no matter each personal social structure, here we are beyond the self.
      The Mission, began by Osho… followed by the wings given by Rajneesh are spreading in the Univers. There is hope for this world, as the light from Ozen Cocom will transform the whole Word.

  49. Be says:

    Happy New Year to all Osho sannyasins!

    Come to Ozen Cocom and have a taste of the real Buddhafield, where grass grows and sun shines, where Magic and Mysterious is Reality and Wonders are Awakened.

    The master’s bell talls loud and long that who knows if it is this year or next year is the year that holds the last moment, the last, last breath..?

    And let’s hope that the last breath is not one of regret…
    that one has missed the chance,
    the last boat of our Master Osho yet again…

    Happy New Year!