Some SN readers seem genuinely disturbed by the odd coincidence of hundreds of thousands of Moslems coming to Europe, (locked in centuries of Islamic pre-conditioning, which to many gives a terrible sense of superiority) and Christian “do gooding” to “help” all those who appear to be suffering. Where to go with this? Arjuna gave a short commentary on Nstradamus, below which may help to contextualise thie issue. Comments welcome on the general or particular.
The Islamic terror of Nostradamus’ Christendom
Friends,
Twentieth-century America had its national fits of “red” Bolshevik scares. The worst promoted in the late 1940s early 1950s by US Senator Joseph McCarthy’s inspired witch hunt under the congressional auspices freely effected mostly by innuendo a pogrom against communists in the Hollywood movie and television industry. The Soviet Union in the 1960s fell sway to a red scare in yellow peril when Russian Marxists differed with Mao and Red China’s Confucian model. The Soviet scare was a collectively Russian throwback to the 1300′s when Mongol Hordes conquered and subjugated European Russia for centuries. The new “yellow peril” had become Mao Zedong’s Red China with newly acquired atomic bombs in 1964. Border clashes on the Chinese-East Siberian Soviet frontiers nearly lead to all-out nuclear war in 1969.
From Red to Islamic scares, we in the West know the jihadist jitters well but nothing like in Nostradamus’ day. I believe the great 16th-century prophet from Provence suffered at times from seeing his world through a conditioned socio-political and religious filter of fear of an Islamic peril. Like all collectivized scares, red, yellow or Islamic, they are founded on some fact. Communism made it clear it wanted to spread all over the world and take down the capitalist imperial countries and their middle-class bourgeoisie. Russia, ever successful in overthrowing invasions from the West always easily fell to invasions from the East. The rise of a nuclear, belligerent and massively populated red giant in the East frightened the Politburo in Moscow. Scenarios for preemptive, unilateral nuclear war with the People’s Republic of China in the late-1960s were seriously considered. The odds were 2 to 1 that it could happen. Jeane Dixon foresaw it. Richard Nixon prevented it in the early 1970s with his brilliant gamble of trilateral diplomacy.
Nostradamus in the mid-16th century lived in a Christian Europe seriously divided by the Protestant Reformation at a time when the Islamic Ottoman Empire was at its peak of power. Sultan Suleyman the Magnificent was Islam’s Alexander the Great, gobbling up Mediterranean outposts of Christendom and Christian kingdoms in Eastern Europe. More than once he threatened to sack Vienna, capital of the Holy Roman Empire, with his vast armies. The coast of Nostradamus’ native Provence was frequently raided by the 16th-century terrorists of his day. Rather than hijack planes and set off truck bombs, these Barbary Corsairs hijacked Christian ships and sacked coastal towns in South France.
It was enough to make Nostradamus fall into fits of prophetic hyperbole about Muslims conquering Europe no less ginned up than McCarthy’s prophecies of imminent communist takeover of Hollywood and the world, or the Soviet Politburo’s forecast of Red turning pale yellow perilous if Mao’s China kept going against the Marxist-Leninist path.
Nothing masks a prophetic bias better in a prophet then an accurate vision of threat in the future.
Nostradamus says:
You will see, sooner and later, great changes made,
Extreme horrors and vengeances:
For as the moon (of Islam) is thus led by its angel,
The heavens draw near to the reckoning.
Barnum Effect:
The tendency to accept certain vaguely worded and generalist, bland or meaningless information, usually psychic predictions and/or exaggerated and unprovable claims, as having some kind of genuine value.
“Barnum effect is an expression that seems to have originated with psychologist Paul Meehl, in deference to circus man P.T.Barnum’s reputation as a master psychological manipulator who is said to have claimed “we have something for everybody.” (Barnum did not originate the expression “There’s a sucker born every minute,” though it has often been attributed to him.)”
But really, look again at that first line…
“You will see…sooner or later…great changes made….”
Profound prophecy indeed.
As per Arjuna´s version of Nostradamus in 1980s Osho was that great master Heavens have sent to be the world teacher!
Rest is history.
Your kind of narrow-mindedness, combined with fanaticism is AT TIMES absolutely unbearable, Shantam Prem!
This is female prose and Anand Yogi sponsored you with according poetry to that matter. Enough is enough. Both of it!
Had a little research about the self-acclaimed “prophet” in California.
Those kind of people come out of every nook and corner in precarious times like this. Has always been that way throughout history. Did as much harm as possible. To stir some very ´muddy waters´, if you know what I mean.
You, Shantam Prem, would be probably well advised to bring your garbage to the garbage bin and sweep your apartment and not forget the window clean! Inside – outside. And maybe then invite some friends for dinner. And have a chat – like this. Not virtual.
The Internet is full of rubbish, SMS speech and manipulative stuff. I would really like this website being a more heart-to heart connection in the lines.
You, Shantam Prem, are sucking a lot of energy here without giving rarely anything back but destructive verbal attacs.
I am pissed about that.
Madhu
Wow…religious feelings are hurt. Is Osho a new Prophet Mohammed, Miss Madhu?
Such is the stupidity of human fanatics, they burn the postman!
I am an indeterminist, so all this prediction stuff is not of interest to me. The unpredictablity of what comes next is what makes life interesting!
However, on this post, I do think that the Arab Spring, and the West’s interpretation of it was an enormous mistake, which led to to the support in Syria of disguised or real jihadists, which has led to an endless civil war.
The enormous numbers of people coming to the West from Syria at Merkel’s invitation, are displaced persons, not economic migrants. Apparently, they are of the most secular form of Islam, and this gives one just a little hope.
How much lies and superstitions are spread by the Nostradamus books industry is a matter of great shame.
During the last part of last century such books were selling like hot cakes. It was even predicted two thirds of the world will be wiped out.
If there was some sense of responsibility in such writers, many should have hanged themselves as repentance for imposing their mind on the unknown elements of Cosmos.
Shantam says:
“During the last part of last century such books were selling like hot cakes. It was even predicted two- thirds of the world will be wiped out.
If there was some sense of responsibility in such writers, many should have hanged themselves as repentance for imposing their mind on the unknown elements of Cosmos.”
Er…are you aware that the person who made this prediction was Osho, your master, who predicted, in 1983, that two-thirds of the world would be wiped out from AIDS?
Shantam says, “If there was some sense of responsibility in such writers, many should have hanged themselves as repentance for imposing their mind on the unknown elements of Cosmos.”
One can only wonder if Shantam would apply this to Osho, who also went through a period of delivering ridiculous prophecies about AIDS killing a third of the world’s population, Mount Fuji blowing its top and of course his highly unoriginal one about California tumbling into the Pacific.
These prophecies were delivered at a time when new sannyasin recruit numbers were dwindling. The essence: the prophets of doom make good business sense. Nostramdamus is still selling books today.
So, Shantam, Osho was guilty of imposing his mind on the unknown elements of Cosmos. Were Osho alive, would you have seen him hanged? Kind of difficult to integrate that with Osho being the great master Heavens have sent to be the world teacher! A statement that reeks of hi-octane hyperbolic bullshit. After all, Osho did not even succeed in teaching you very much, let alone the world.
Let me say with humbleness and humility: Rules of life apply to everyone, including Jesus, Mohammed or Osho.
As human followers, only benefit we can give to giants are, “Lies were made, laws were broken, wars were fought out of compassion and not out of ego-fulfillment.”
In hide sight, it seems laws of existence work without any favour and malice. Osho himself has left elements of destruction in his own work.
Time has shown, after Osho´s departure from America 30 years ago, Nature is favouring Americans with creativity and intelligence, and not sannyasins.
Sorry, Master!
Shantam,
That is 10 more lines of absolutely meaningless gibberish for the collection!
Fact is, that if you want to present yourself as some kind of voice in or on the Osho movement, as you do, but you don`t even know some of the basic and significant history of the man you claim to be representing (two-thirds of the world AIDS story the case in point) you clearly show yourself as an absolute nonsense-spouting idiot, who’s suffering from being utterly ignorant of your subject whilst imagining, in your inflated mind, to be making some kind of significant comment.
The same applies to your ludicrous and even more ignorant take on western/Christian culture and history which you are now spouting off again.
Not long ago you wrote, in all seriousness, on SN:
“I don´t want to write an essay about Christian values in the foundation of western civilisation, as it is quite obvious: behind every single innovation happened till now in the West, whether in the field of technology, medicine or laws, there is somewhere some Biblical sentence.”
As I say, it is both comic and pathetic.
If you can`t take these simple points from a “faceless” person, you will probably never take it from anybody.
Your loss.
Do you ever recall in your younger days, hearing attempts to communicate with Mary Whitehouse?
She’s back.
Faceless Frank, if you are the encyclopedia of meaningful thoughts write with the authenticity of your face. If cannot, ask some psychoanalyst why you are proving a rat. I hope such service is provided by NHS.
I mean, what kind of shameful coward and cunning being you are. You know every single nook and corner of Osho but no one knows who you are.
In my eyes, it is disgusting, shameful and utterly indecent if someone does not stand with his knowledge and wisdom yet wants to communicate with the public. It can be 2 people or twenty thousand plays no role.
MOD: LAST SENTENCE MEANS WHAT, PLEASE, SHANTAM?
Shantam,
Read this…
and tell me if it`s true or not.
Fact is, that if you want to present yourself as some kind of voice in or on the Osho movement, as you do, but you don`t even know some of the basic and significant history of the man you claim to be representing (two-thirds of the world AIDS story the case in point) you clearly show yourself as an absolute nonsense-spouting idiot, who’s suffering from being utterly ignorant of your subject whilst imagining, in your inflated mind, to be making some kind of significant comment.
The same applies to your ludicrous and even more ignorant take on western/Christian culture and history which you are now spouting off again.
Not long ago you wrote, in all seriousness, on SN:
“I don´t want to write an essay about Christian values in the foundation of western civilisation, as it is quite obvious: behind every single innovation happened till now in the West, whether in the field of technology, medicine or laws, there is somewhere some Biblical sentence.”
As I say, it is both comic and pathetic.
If you can`t take these simple points from a “faceless” person, you will probably never take it from anybody.
Your loss.
It seems I could not convey in right words. My point is whether someone addresses his thoughts to two people or to twenty thousand, one should not shy away from showing the face. Readers and fellow communicators have the right to know who the person is.
I find it quite pathetic that at Osho disciples’ prime website, where freedom is almost absolute, to take pot-shots at the master too, bloggers protect their own identity. If there’s guilt or fear behind, they have to find themselves.
I think Frank, whosoever he is, has spent considerable time in all the phases of Osho´s work. He knows all the hidden weaknesses, he knows all the players, therefore won´t miss a single opportunity to punch anyone, but with a tactical style of Talibans.
I feel this attitude indecent, specially when I write with all my vulnerabilities, like an open book. For me, to write here is not just to pass time but sharing with the fellow disciples.
Sannyasnews does not need to be that big as news corporation for any writer to feel proud of; Osho is also not Rupert Murdoch!
Shantam, you say, “I write with all my vulnerabilities, like an open book. For me, to write here is not just to pass time but sharing with the fellow disciples.”
Instead of playing the ‘hard done by, poor little innocent me’ card I suggest you make more effort to research what you write about (Frank’s two examples are merely the tip of the iceberg) and simply wait and ‘think’ before you toss off any old, undigested, unprocessed nonsense that your seemingly ever-feverish brain comes up with.
You seem to be under the misapprehension that whatever is ‘spontaneous’ must therefore be ‘authentic’, and hence of great value when immediately communicated. Sorry, Shantam, it doesn’t necessarily work like that, old chap, and in your case, almost never.
Also, why not take the time to actually read others’ posts instead of avoiding or glossing over them, or telling yourself such people are ‘unworthy’ of a response? If you have no adequate answer, why not say so? You’d gain far more respect here, I’m sure.
But if you prefer to invite further unlimited ridicule then just carry on as you’ve always done – and realise your responsibility in inviting the whole humiliating (for you) scenario.
Shantam,
What kind of shameful coward and cunning being you are.
You are disgusting, shameful and utterly indecent the way you avoid responding to the most straightforward of comments.
Arpana, don´t try to put yourself in the same league as Lokesh, Frank, Satyadeva. I know how to answer them and when. I don´t mind to use abusive language and get abused in return, but this is not with everyone. Like everyone, I have my choice.
Shantam, don´t try to put yourself in the same league as Osho.
“These prophecies were delivered at a time when new sannyasin recruit numbers were dwindling. The essence: the prophets of doom make good business sense.” (Lokesh)
Osho went out of his way to get rid of followers, first the Jains, then the Gandhians, then sannyasins. He got rid of people by making outrageous jokes. He got rid of people by making outrageous (and only apparently contradictory) statements. Then Osho tried to get rid of more sannyasins by entering into 3 years of silence in the middle of a desert in a religiously fundamentalist area. Ranch fascism was the final straw and shook off a lot of sannyasins who’d had enough…they never made it to Pune 2. They decided the guru trip was passé…they decided one does not need a guru…the only guru you need is within you…LOL!
My take on Osho’s predictions of doom is that it had little to do with the outer world. The doomsterism was another way to prod people into meditation. The outer world is a lost cause…so “go in!” …the outer is a reflection of the inner.
I consider all of Osho’s successes 100% successful, and his failures were successes, too…but I am not numbers-oriented…I’m not counting how many neo-sannyasins there are, nor do I consider money, fame or numbers of followers to be valid criteria to judge of success. Like Krishnamurti, Osho was saying the only true revolution is the inner revolution. That Osho left a bibliographic legacy that continues to move people to meditate is success.
“Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don’t resist them – that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like.” (Lao Tzu)
Perfectly correct, Samarpan!
Everything is perfectly correct in the perfectly correct world of perfectly correct mystics!
Yes, Osho worked extremely hard to get rid of followers from day one, and this continues through his energy today!
Now we have got to the point where he has got rid of everyone except you, me, Shantam, a couple of hard-core Hindus here and there and a couple of boozers in the Ashram!
Osho`s vision is certainly coming to fruition!
And you are right, Shantam is a human being! He is the elephant man!
Yahoo!
Hari Om!
Yogi…u uttter bar steward… great stuff!
Sammy, not only are you uninformed and brainwashed, I suspect that you are also pretty stupid.
Osho was very interested in numbers, especially if it had to do with increasing the numbers of his followers and money in his organisation’s coffers.
I have heard that a top PR man was hired in Poona 2 in an effort to attract more people to the commune. It is from this move that Osho’s ridiculous prophecies stemmed.
The picture you paint of Osho is absurd, a projection of your own reality, your own dream. Nothing to do with actual facts. As Lao Tzu advises, resisting these facts will only create sorrow. It is true. For you have become a sad case.
“Sammy, not only are you uninformed and brainwashed, I suspect that you are also pretty stupid.”
And Lokesh thinks he gets automatic rights to ridicule devotee kind like Samarpan.
I think there is a little criminal in Lokesh, who wants to perform surgery.
In my opinion, Lokesh, you are a man with average understanding about human nature.
The whole evening I was thinking to say Sorry to Lokesh and modify my comment. The word ‘criminal’ is not justified in any context while describing some psychological trait of Lokesh.
So I take the liberty to say, in my observation, there is a smart chap in Lokesh who wants to perform surgery before getting the degree from a university.
In any case, I feel Samarpan´s devotee-like response does not need such harsh criticism. It is every disciple´s right to project his projections on the master. If it is disturbing sleep of the master, let master tell to the disciples. It is like no pain, no gain. Every profession has its own uneasy side.
My observation is many of the westerns who embraced Sannyas had a very low impression about their native religion and family tree. Osho created the hope for a better loving world without priestly interventions and a vision of commune which was show cased as the new tribe better than the damned families.
Communes could not pass the test drives but hate for the native religions is very much there.
So in this background, my feeling is sannyasins kind of extreme leftists living in their theoretical ideas of one Earth, one humanity will be the first ones to rejoice if Christianity-based countries get some viruses from here and there.
Shantam says:
“Osho created the hope for a better loving world.”
In fact, when local people wrote a sign, “Abandon hope all ye who enter here” at the outskirts of the Ranch, Osho welcomed it and lauded the accuracy of the sentiment.
Fact is, it is Christianity which had been ‘creating hope for a better world’ for centuries. The fact that you continue to pontificate about matters about which you are entirely ignorant is often amusing in a kind of ‘watching a fat man slip on a banana skin in repeat mode’ kind of way, but underneath that your self-image as a guy with something significant to say is really a bit sad.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2012/05/30/whats-really-behind-europes-decline-its-the-birth-rates-stupid/
To me, this ‘Syrian’ situation is not very different from the ‘Tibetan’ situation which India is facing since the last century, only that in the Tibetan case it was a political asylum based on humanitarian grounds & the ‘Syrian’ case, at least for now, seems more of a humanitarian asylum based on humanitarian grounds.
Frank, if you were so sure about your fucking wisdom you won´t be hesitant to show your face publicly. If you have computer, most probably you have smartphone too – if not, ask the nurse to click a photo for all of us.
Let we see, who is this wise uncle Frank.
My suggestion is, first be an authentic man before spitting your sarcasm on one and all. Before one asks the other, one should take the lead, so here is my photo. If someone’s buttons are pushed, spit on it. Don´t forget to wipe computer screen.
OMG! Shantam is a human being, not a punching bag. Everyone, please take note.
lols
Shantam, the comment you have written to accompany your selfie betrays your nasty streak.
It is because of people like yourself that some of us choose to keep their identity hidden, because you have a tendency to use and abuse anything you know about the other bloggers on this site. It is a behavioural characteristic of yours that is both immature and fucked up. Maybe you should examine that. I doubt you will.
Pity, as it would help create a better sense of self-esteem on your part. You are not doing your best here on SN and ultimately this will lead to self-judgement, self-abuse and regret on your part. Life is quite mechanical in this respect.
“It is because of people like yourself that some of us choose to keep their identity hidden, because you have a tendency to use and abuse anything you know about the other bloggers on this site.”
What a foolish and ugly attitude. It shows there is no living master around you but your coconut kind of hard shell mind. You have not kept your face secret, nor Kavita or Parmartha. Tell me, when I have abused them or you.
Exchange of hard words between us is not abuse, I presume. On the contrary, I am willing to ask each and every one who has ever written on this platform, are they absent because of me or others?
I am also willing to ask anyone who wants to write here, are you hesitant because of me or the others?
If it is because of me, I can withdraw or promise not to write a single word on your articles and posts.
Matter of the fact is, the racist British, Irish, Scottish mind wants to dominate this site and go on entertaining themselves. Most of them without any visible investment of any kind in Osho or Sannyas. Surely, my level of respect is minimum for such egocentric fools projecting themselves wise.
If any of you would have been the editor of this site, I would not have thought even to look after two three attempts.
It is due to Parmartha, the unshakable Osho disciple, that I am here at this site. He is keeping the free flow of communication.
I personally feel, faceless people are the ones who repel people.
“It is due to Parmartha, the unshakable Osho disciple, that I am here at this site. He is keeping the free flow of communication.”
Perhaps you should enquire as to why Parmartha suggested you need to do a Sannyas-type encounter group, Shantam? A suggestion that – entirely predictably – you rejected.
Moreover Lokesh, have I ever asked any blogger to share their personal information?
What I have asked is simply a photo, a selfie, that the words have identity and a presumption writers with faces take the responsibility of their words. It also give readers an imprint what kind of energy they are having.
It is the bare minimum requirement in the age when one billion faces log to facebook on daily basis.
“Matter of the fact is, the racist British, Irish, Scottish mind wants to dominate this site and go on entertaining themselves. Most of them without any visible investment of any kind in Osho or Sannyas.”
Shantam, as I suggested earlier today, if you continue to post such vitriolic tripe, you’re only going to get more negative responses, further humiliation.
I mean, how many times and by how many people does a person need to be told he’s being a stupid, ignorant fool before he begins to wonder whether there just might, perhaps, be something there for him to look at, to consider, to take seriously?
And I’m beginning to wonder how long your ill thought-out posts that do little except generate ill-feeling and contempt will be allowed to virtually dominate this forum….
Shantam, here’s some more feedback for you from someone who hasn’t given any so far.
My partner, also with a long history in Sannyas, reckons that your almost incessant outpouring of repetitious, poorly thought-out, ill-researched posts is rather like the behaviour of a needy child, one that seeks to get as much attention as possible via repetitiously aberrant behaviour. Especially so, given your apparently isolated daily life.
Now, instead of immediately and predictably reacting in your habitual manner, how about really looking into that and seeing whether there’s any truth at all there?
The future is now…
Still aware of Fukushima’s effects and the cataclysmic news around the north-west Pacific:
http://enenews.com/
http://enenews.com/rapid-stunning-complete-crash-animal-population-nuclear-site-150000-antelopes-dead-after-bleeding-internal-organs-experts-100-mortality-example-history-like-really-unheard-doesnt-make-sense-infe
http://enenews.com/nuclear-experts-1000000-cancers-could-result-fukushima-already-hundreds-times-thyroid-cancers-tip-iceberg-worst-enormous-spikes-cancer-devastating-health-effects-video
http://enenews.com/tv-massive-decline-fish-throwing-ecosystem-along-california-coast-expert-population-collapsed-theyre-gone-virtually-everywhere-whale-numbers-dropped-significantly-squid-disappearing-video
http://enenews.com/former-official-fukushima-plant-dumping-radioactivity-ocean-daily-basis-foreseeable-good-ideas-stop-japan-govt-worried-attempts-stop-going-nuclear-waste-flow-sea-video
http://www.thenuclearproctologist.org/new-index-1/#/page-15-fukushima-death-to-pacific-ocean-marine-life/
Any more good news?
I was hoping you’d ask…
http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/fukushima-accident-updates.html
This site declares itself as non-conspiratorial, scientific, impartial.
Plus:
I have invested in the purchase of two statues of the Buddha for the garden and a full CD album set of the Sound of Incense…so as to accelerate world peace.
Apparently, finding the good in goodbye works not only with ending relationships but also when it’s time to leave planets…
As in, “Goodbye. I’mageddon outtahere, thanks for the ride, it’s been great….’”
P.S:
The trouble begins always with incarnating and the contrary greeting of “Hell-o”. As a safety tip I recommend using the full phrase, “Hello, I must be going”, to include all options at all times, thus avoiding attachment, like the plague…erm, uh, metaphorically speaking.
Also, there’s those old ‘palm-leaf prophecies’ that the Indians have got:
http://www.meditationclub.com/Palm.htm
And more world predictions:
http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=https://soolaba.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/bhrigu-samhita-predictions-2000-2050.pdf&sa=U&ved=0CA8QFjAAahUKEwjnwYaRh4TJAhWJiywKHbZOCIs&sig2=dm6teoQtjQdKu4dADe1hog&usg=AFQjCNEllqZxzCAJ05ZIDJG71W4HUUogaQ
Arjuna? The author of the lead piece? A commentator on Nostradamus.
No-one really commented on him?
There is much to write on Arjuna too. At the very beginning of this string I have tried to bring his interpretations in limelight.
7 November, 2015 at 7:22 pm:
“As per Arjuna´s version of Nostradamus in 1980s Osho was that great master Heavens have sent to be the world teacher!
Rest is history.”
One response was there, and that too with venom and anger, from Madhu.
Fellow bloggers simply duck the contents raised by this Shantam and focus on the postman. I cannot push the level of awareness in others or even in me.
Yes, I did, Parmartha, yet only a sparkle of my uneasiness when I visited a website about his Californian web performance and some contents of further ´prophecies´.
Maybe this man feels very much intrigued by a ´spiritually loaded’ name in the big Sagas about Krishna and Arjuna? Who knows?
There is for me no doubt about it, that sensitive humans can forsee and already FEEL (and mostly really suffer about that) what is in the morphic fields and there is neither any doubt about it that in this so-called technical ´Information-Tech Age´, the misuse of information or the distribution/administration of information has developed to an ongoing extent of inconceivable measures.
Quite often mutating into manipulating masses in truly horrifying ways.
Btw, I do not share your insights about the ‘Arab Spring’ becoming Winter in most all of the areas, but I am so fed up with stupid response-comments of contempt that I won´t go into that now. What I may share with you -who knows? – is a kind of silent prayer to ease the pain of wars, may they be visible or less visible.
And get courage to live moment to moment and may we do (or undo) our very best to meet each other in a human way.
And gather some Emotional Intelligence, which in my eyesight is thoroughly missing in everyday affairs.
Madhu, wishing you very well – also in your work with refugees.
Not a lot of people are aware that Nostradumus himself mentioned Arjuna in a little known quatrain in the original medieval Latin:
“Veni vidi, sooner or laterus, definitlius maybius
Blancus robus Hogus rogus bogus hocus pocus takus pissus
Et scamus cum ad hoc ad lib taurus excrementus
Et takus suckerus per mugus et takus el denerius et scarperus.”
Not just for discussion sake, when someone writes so methodically hilarious, desire also arises to shower flowers on that person´s face.
This Latin thing is a sixer on a bouncer.
(MOD: Above line is a cricket metaphor, meaning a great, exciting piece of skill in the game).
I knew you went to Eton, Frank.
How else would you know Latin?
I don`t know any Latin. I think I must be channelling Nozza himself.
“Dodgus geezus Iannus Hogus ogus pogus continuus
Cum absolutus completus bolloccium scrivat
Idiotum nuagerus et sanniasus nuttus purchasus biblius
Et swallowus crapus untilus taurus ad domicilus returnunt.”
Interesting to me is that the calculations for his quatrains were able to happen because of the development of maths and scientific instruments, which could work out where the planets were and had been in years previous to his work. (Would imagine there was a lot of seeing what you wanted to going on. Mind you, that hardly makes him a primitive. Most people do that most of the time anyway).
This work, along with alchemy, played a huge part in the development of the rational sciences.
Have you read this? Even if its not particularly your thing. Fascinating.
‘Connections’, James Burke.
http://goo.gl/T92jyt
Shantam, first of all, why would anyone in this age need a postman except for maybe parcels? These days, even rickshawallahs in India have a smartphone.
I think here on sannyasnews, as the name suggests, it’s a sannyas-based site, so do you think these persons do not know what is really happening around? Sometimes I really wonder if you shall ever get what Sammasati is!
Few have got Sammasti, few have got Satori, Few have got Samadhi…
To see such rich people, I imagine it is not bad to be poor!
Use headphones for this, Shantam…
↓https://youtu.be/LCb4bYzdaog
‘God Loves Everyone’ (Ron Sexsmith):
Singer is really bringing his heart out (though there are only 44 clicks during last one week).
This is definitely crab mentality in action!
Thanks, Kavita, before this post of yours I was not aware about this expression, “Crab Mentality”.
Yes, dear, it’s the English version for ‘hum toh dubengey sanam’.
What is Sammasati, Kavita?
This word is not from the languages I know, nor from the cultures I am grown into. So maybe you can tell what is Sammasati and from where one gets it?
Shantam, this is supposedly the last words of your Master to all his disciples in Buddha Hall; that’s what I have heard in my formative years of living in Poona & it’s probably Prakrit as that was the language Buddha supposedly conversed in.
What I got is that Sammasati is self-remembrance. I thought you should have known it since you always keep harping about Osho’s last days. Isn’t it strange you didn’t come across this word or are you pretending or..? Well, maybe it’s one of your sarcastic streaks!
Without the series of all the words, last words loses its meaning. It is like when general anatomy is not healthy, erogenous zones have no charm.
More than two decades ago, I had a T-shirt with bold printed ‘Sammasati’ and then in small prints, ‘Remember you are a Buddha’.
This was purchased from annual Osho festival in Köln. Like all the Osho festivals, this too could not sustain long. Declining number of participants must be the reason.
The way I follow the news of the world, my observation is in the sexual grooming of underage girls in the West, most of the people involved come from one particular religion. These people have no emotional bonding with the rich countries where they live, neither they have any respect for the body-mind-soul of western women.
Islamophobia is a real feeling. Degrees can vary from case to case.
And also, I must say, in my observation, women from Islamic cultures have more heart energy than those in the line of selling and buying the seminar pads to open their heart chakras.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/indian-origin-journalist-arrested-in-paedophile-sting-in-uk/1/521544.html
Now normally, one would, of course, never venture to suggest that you, Shantam, are in any way similar, however remotely, to these wretched ‘under-age sex groomers’ regarding ‘lower chakra matters’ – yet one can not help pondering over such ‘news of the world observations’ as:
“…neither they have any respect for the body-mind-soul of western women…And also, I must say, in my observation, women from Islamic cultures have more heart energy than those in the line of selling and buying the seminar pads to open their heart chakras”.
And wondering whether in fact there’s more common ground between you and them than might, on the surface, appear to be the case….
This is the problem with faceless creatures like you, Satyadeva, you can shit and piss anywhere. I had always this impression, you are emotionally underdeveloped. To cover this deficiency, you use out-of-the-mark analysis of others. When was the last time you have self-analysed your mean steak?
I wonder how people cope with you in daily life. Maybe there you use another name, another persona.
I’d put that down as a rather extreme over-reaction, Shantam – which perhaps speaks volumes…
You know what they say, if there’s no semblance of truth in another’s comments, no need to react at all, one can just laugh.
Satyadeva, I accept it was an over-reaction. I have to read three, four times your post to understand what kind of weapon you have used. It was a kitchen knife and not assault rifle. So sorry for the collateral damage. It was an over-reaction out of self-protection.
It is really not my style to target individuals, but collective mind. Individuals which I target are not individuals, but some kind of priests and politicians.
Thus gabbles Shantam, stereotype of a priest and politician.
Everybody else is busy to be a therapist, facilitator, trustee, management team member, mystic and mini- master, Shantam Prem is being chosen to be a priest and politician.
Somebody has to be the asshole when every dick wants to be head and heart.
I love my job.!
You don’t have to be an asshole, but you are, whilst deluding yourself you live in the heart.
This is the problem with pompous windbags like you, Shantam. You can shit and piss anywhere. I had always this impression you are emotionally underdeveloped. To cover this deficiency, you use out-of-the-mark insults to others. When was the last time you have self-analysed your grotesque sense of entitlement?
I wonder how people cope with you in daily life. Maybe there you use another name, another persona.
Shantam, how can you say that “women from Islamic cultures have more heart energy than those in the line…”? Your observation is totally wrong, there is no question of having more or less heart energy among women of different cultures.
This only shows your prejudice against western women, who, by the way, won’t hesitate in kicking your fat ass! Sod off!
As it happens, it’s on the record that the majority of grooming cases where men of `Pakistani origin` in UK have been convicted of abuse are, more specifically, Punjabis.
“Mr Shantam Singh, I am arresting you for molestation, benefit fraud and the use of ludicrously mixed metaphors in a public place. You do not have to say anything but it will certainly harm your defence iuf yo say anything at all. And your chuddies will be taken down and may be given in evidence.”
“And also, I must say, in my observation, women from Islamic cultures have more heart energy than those in the line of selling and buying the seminar pads to open their heart chakras.”
Out of 10, if 2 bloggers have taken notice of this sentence, I owe some clarification. I stay with my initial observation, but heart energy is not the only energy. One can say there are 7 subjects in the class, on a collective level, western women are on the top position in every subject. They have right therefore, to be not that good in one subject.
Again it is an observation about collective mind.
Your chuddies will be taken down and may be given in evidence.
This is something that will, of course, take place in a bio-hazard containment facility.
Maybe Arjuna can predict on the basis of Nostradamus or someone else:
Will the Muslim terror remain forever on the Earth?
As far as our lifetimes are concerned, yes (leaving out nuclear Armageddon and/or overwhelming natural catastrophe leading to mass wipe-out of the human race) of course…
Elementary, my dear Shantam!
Next easy question, please….
Cool.