Here is an interesting take on the day that Osho died from someone living in Pune at the time, but not a sannyasin
I vividly remember springing to my feet and quietly exiting from a Marathi literary meet when a fellow journalist whispered in my ear that there was talk of Osho having died.
It was late in the afternoon/evening, and this was much before breaking news, pagers or cellphones had come to the fore.
There was no point in rushing blindly to the Osho Commune International at Koregaon Park; some phone calls had to be made from my Pune bureau office first.
I dialled the commune’s press in-charge, Swami Chaitanya Keerti, who confirmed the news. The priority, now, was to be at the commune, about 7-10kms away.
It had been three years since Osho and his band of followers returned from their misadventure in Oregon. The press office, which was in the habit of issuing frequent statements from Osho, curiously, on the day of his death, issued a routine statement (that was hastily withdrawn within hours).
In that statement, Osho had warned against Shirley Maclaine’s Inner Workout exercises, which were “doing tremendous damage to spiritual seekers wishing to go into meditation”.
A small crowd, largely maroon-robed, had gathered at the
commune. They were standing alone or in small groups with anxious expressions. In contrast, some were dancing to loud music — a characteristic feature of the commune in those days.
The dancing did not appear a natural expression of joy, but
deliberate. It was in keeping with the philosophy of not mourning death.
The dancing soon turned to frenzy, and there was also some sobbing. I recall the sight of four men carrying Osho’s body in a bier held low so people could have one last glimpse of the mystic in his flowing white beard and cap. I don’t remember the colour of his clothes; but his senior disciple Swami Satya Vedanta (Vasant Joshi) informs me that he was “draped in black velvet and flowers”.
The commune’s managers decided against keeping Osho’s body in that state for too long; the cremation was to happen the same night within a matter of hours after his death at around 5pm. The cause of death was stated as heart attack.
The body was carried in a procession to the nearby ghat at Koregaon Park and the cremation happened at around 10pm without any religious rites being performed. The pyre was lit by his younger brother Vijay Bharati, Joshi records in his latest book, The Luminous Rebel.
Many remained at the ghat till early morning.The unusual aura of music and dancing at Osho’s cremation is still etched in my memory. I also recall wondering about the haste with which his body was cremated and not kept in the state for at least a day to allow darshan (last glimpse) to his followers. I was told that this was against his philosophy.
Abhay Vaidya
I was also in Pune, but did not have the opportunity of a last viewing of my beloved Osho. That this happened to so many of his people is a grave infringement on our collective love for Him.
As I am sure that Osho did not stipulate Jayesh take pole position in the procession to the ghats, I am also sure that Osho did not stipulate any time frame for carrying this out. At least it wasn’t in the all important official address containing Osho’s last words. I leave you my dream, and by the way, take me off at full speed to the ghats.
Perhaps the Inner-Circle got together and decided that it was part of Osho’s philosophy to carry this out ASAP. Osho’s philosophy is not about short or long periods of time, it is about the timeless. The Inner-Circle is not a philosophy club. The Inner-Circle is also not a spiritual club. It is a managerial or administrative club. If there were practical reasons for hasty departure of the body, then so be it. If not, then the format taken should have been a balanced view that took into account the various interests of Osho’s people – whether that be reflected by a spectrum of the Inner-Circle members, or the collective of Osho sannyasins present in Pune: thus giving Osho sannyasins the chance to see their Master in a final fair well.
You might here like to argue that this would be beckoning the worshipping that Osho despised his whole life. If you did so, it is not your place to have that viewpoint come into effect. What one person despises as worship another says is simply saying goodbye to a Master they have loved and trusted for perhaps their entire life. What were we all doing sitting at his feet for so many years? For us all it is a mysterious mixture of meditation and love. In different religious traditions, the leaving of the body of even a disciple is a tremendously important opportunity for deep meditation – as much energy is being released from the disciple’s body. What to say of the Master? Whether or not this is the case does not matter. It points to something. The matter of seeing Osho’s body is open to spiritual interpretation. To decide on hasty removal of Osho with the reason of avoiding excess worship is not a decision Osho left anyone the power to make. It is outside the practical mandate of the Inner-Circle.
As I have previously pointed out, if Osho’s leaving the body was hastened considerably by poisoning, then this in all likelihood happened just prior to contracting an incurably ear infection and falling gravely ill in the September of 1987 in Pune – and not in America at the hands of the CIA. Also, since he was at the time in the care of his closest disciples and not on a prison swapping tour, it is also most probable that if he was poisoned, he was by one of his closest disciples. There is a very interesting method of poisoning: via the ear canal. Also, thallium (the supposed weapon of choice) has been shown to cause incurable ear infections in lab rats. Such a method of poisoning was perhaps not widely known, but there was certainly a reasonable body of medical literature covering the finer details of this covert criminal act.
My article on this issue is:
http://oshodemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/09/who-really-poisned-osho.html
A factual reference is as follows:
Eclectic medical journal, Volume 22 – 1863, Ohio State Eclectic Medical Association, Worthington College (Ohio). Reformed Medical Dept
pp43-44 On Secret Poisoning – A paper having this terrible title was read by Professor Harley, at the Meeting of the British Association, held last month at Cambridge…yet he was sorry to say he could not but repeat the statement he made last year in a paper on slow poisoning, read before the Royal Medico-Chirurgical Society of London….Nay, more, he even went a step further, and declared that he not only believed that we magnified the difficulty of perpetrating the crime, but that we were also inclined to exaggerate the facility of its detection.
The article goes on to discuss how in small doses a slow death may result in the toxin going undetected.
Also, Osho sannyasins are quick to dispute the advice of relevant experts that Osho had likely been poisoned by thallium (found in rat poison). The reasoning is that Osho did not suffer hair loss.
There is a wide body of literature documenting thallium poisoning with or without hair loss – in rats and humans. Thallium poisoning does not always cause hair loss:
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S019606440248969X
A hasty cremation of Osho’s body. Who diagnosed the cause of death? Who authorised the ceremony without giving time for our last and uncherished wish?
Osho left no successor and no one in management has the slightest capacity of attaining to an understanding of his philosophy, let alone his spirituality.
Again I point out that no one, not even Jayesh or Amrito, had the authority to decide for a hasty cremation ceremony unless it was for practical reasons. Perhaps there were practical reasons that remain currently undisclosed.
Crimes against oShomaninty
http://oshodemocracy.blogspot.com
Inner circle cliaming that keeping osho ,s body for a day to allow darshan ( last glimpse) was against osho;s philosophy. it is simply not true. Inner circle should have kept the body for sannyasins to see osho,s last glimpse instead of rushing to burning ghat. My personal feeling is that inner always avoids contoversy and chaitanya keerti then and now sadhana and other indians simply follow orders.
press in commune is control by jayesh and amrito
keerti and sadhana never question the orders because that will put their job in danger.
role of press all around the world is tell turth ,
as far as resort is concered press mis guide on many key issues of osho,s vision ……….i do not trust resort press , and you guys will be surprise that many times sadhana used to write editorial and it was often edited by amrito and never vis. varsa………….
bottom line is that is lot more than we know to osho,s death . I request swami keerti to come in public and clear lots of stuff which he is keeping to himself .
i know he is scared to go to jail by exposing jayesh and amrito…….he is fighting against them , but narrowoly , he can not win . He and neelam has to come out more often and recall lots of dirty events took place during 1989 1990
they never talk about hasya and abhirbava leaving commune or nirvano,s death . Why Why Why
All the time i heard from them is copyright , budha hall and nothing else.
is osho.s death is smaller then copyright.
it is time sannyasins like to listen to the turth and atleast their opinions ……..
please feel free to correct me if i am wrong
please do not delete this posting from here
i am just asking some old wolfs to come forward to clear something to us ……..we osho lovers needs that now more than any other time
love
amano
“I was told it was against his philosophy”
Osho left noone to decide what was and was not Osho’s philosophy. Osho left no successor and the Inner-Circle was to function only as a practical managerial body: to take care of his legacy, not to interpret his vision of spirituality. Maybe Osho’s body was getting a little smelly, and so for this practical reason the commune management decided to burn his body quick smart. Though this would be a pathetic reason, it is within the scope of the authority given to the managerial body known as the Inner-Circle.
It seems that Jayesh and Amrito did not even wait one day after Osho left his body to start preaching their version of Osho. I am wondering about other members of the Inner-Circle – Keerti and Neelam for example. From what I have read of Keerti, it seems likely that he would have totally supported time for Osho’s people to have a last glimpse. The commune management referred to in the above article would likely be Jayesh and Amrito – later known as JA & Gang. It seems that battle was waged from day one – or was it day zero, or day minus some? This is very interesting indeed.
Jayesh and Amrito are not even trained philosphers. Jayesh has a financial background – he made his money flipping condominiums in Canada. Amrito is a medical doctor – although OshoBob has some doubts on this matter. The Inner-Circle was to take care of the practical running of Osho’s affairs. So how is it then that philosophical reasoning determined that Osho’s body be burnt without delay?
This same language, starting presumably from the day Osho died, has been used to justify all kinds of conduct – the demolishing of the Pagoda and the removal of Osho pictures for example. I read how Veeresh was explained that the other justification for such decisions was because Osho had not actually stipulated this or that. He had for example not actually said to bring a chair onto the podium, or to put up his pictures around the commune.
Who is to say what Osho said directly, what he agreed with indirectly, and what he disagreed with indirectly. There will be of course a few decisions that can be attributed to Osho, however on the whole the matter is entirely without clarity. Probably Osho never directly said to buy any further land around Mukta’s house either. To be consistent JA & Gang should rule that all this land be demolished of its structures and sold off. This kind of argument has no validity. Decisions cannot be made this way for they fall into the land of spiritual debate. The Delhi Devotees for example make a clear case for how Osho was even till the end, an ardent support of devotion as an aspect of his spirituality. In such arguments there is no way forward on spiritual grounds, nor does there need to be. In the role of caretaker of Osho’s legacy, the Inner-Circle only had the capacity to undertake practical managerial decisions. If there was a practical reason for demolishing the pagoda – it was about to fall over – than this would need to be addressed.
From day dot JA & Gang had already started out on their path of domination and control. This means that prior to Osho leaving the body, they already had serious power issues. Did those desires for power manifest in any other ways prior to Osho leaving the body? Clearly some members of the Inner-Circle had an interest in succeeding Osho as the Master. I wonder how strong this interest was?
The only logical explanation for Osho’s physical decline and premature death is that he was poisoned with thallium around the time of his incurable ear infection in Pune 2. It makes no sense that he was poisoned by the CIA, and yet by all accounts showed no sign of serious ill-effect until years later. There was no marked reaction to the supposed poisoning by US government officials. Do you think the CIA devised a kind of sleeping thallium, that only became active a year or two later? I do not subscribe to such a theory.
People that make there money flipping condo’s have a simple plan. You buy when the market is down, make a face-over, and sell on the up. It is not about adding essential value to a long-term investment. It is about making a pretty façade, knowing the market conditions, and being a good salesperson. This sheds new light on the façade at the resort in Pune. I know for a fact that for years during the monsoon people drank seriously contaminated ‘drinking’ water at the Pune resort. I also know that not even a minimum expense of a few new filters was permitted to rectify this. Having a good quality water system is an expense and does not impact on the façade – so long as noone finds out. So somewhere in senior management there is a willingness to do such things – to in my view poison people. I wonder how long that psychopathic tendency has been lurking in their minds?
Yehaa
Abhay
I it good to discuss, I do appreciate Amano and Abhay to speak up, even I do not agree. so I will make my contribution here.
Why is always so, that if you people criticize inner circle it is as if they (inner c) would want something evil to Osho’s legacy or as if there would be some conspiracy against the rest of us?
Somebody has to decide, this is not democracy to run the Resort/commune/ashram./company/project etc. 99,9% are not willing to take any responsibility, ever, for anything, but like to be resentful (envious, know better etc) towards the authority figures and suggest some things, often meaningless details, from the side (and get hurt if things do not go THEIR way). Personally I would just hate that job. But to be in charge for anything is not a dance on the roses, ever. Just watch around.
Still, use your common sense for not being the lamb. If your (personal) friend is planning to murder or poison somebody, surely you should be able to just say NO. Can we make a difference here?
Few things from here.
1. What evil happened with taking Osho to burning gates the same day? I was there, I spent all my time in the ashram the whole day and next night in the burning gates, and it was enough for me. Should there have been some kind of vote for what to do? If it was too soon for YOU, so what?
2. Also, why it is everybody’s issue if Vivek committed a suicide or in what way they buried her? Did you know her personally? Are you family or friend? Why would anybody be responsible to organize her funeral in YOUR way or even explain anything about her to any of us?
3. So what if Keerti let Amrito edit his text, if he was Kertee’s boss that’s how it goes everywhere, how ever irritating the bosses are. In the end it is Keerti’s responsibility to keep up with his own text, perhaps his articles were boring. Anyway, who cares,; is Keerti somehow super talented in writing or did he had to hide something? Osho Times is anyway kind of ”corporate magazine”, media aware people understand that. And now he is doing his thing in Delhi….
4. If you know anything that would put people to jail, please tell us and show us some evidence, otherwise it is just evil from you to hint that way personally to some real people.
5. Inner c took Osho’s pictures away and moved old Buddha hall etc trying to say NOT to worship Osho as a God or Guru. Just visit some Hindu gurus or Christian priests and see if you really want it that way, please do that. I did visit a friend’s guru….. They were talking about the guru exactly the way I did about Osho 20 years ago. I sounded really childish. Devotion in that way is HINDU TRADITION; Osho’s sanyasins do NOT belong to ANY tradition. I have even heard some Indians say ” Ok., Osho is one of the Gods….” Arghhhhhh……NO. Indians should really look at them selves here with this devotional issue. It is an other life now
6. About Indian workers. Most obvious reason to use Indian workers is, that VERY FEW (or none) sanyasins would do those ”shit jobs”. And if you would, then people would be complaining about this inner c that is forcing them to do ”SIT JOBS” while they are sitting in the office. It is the same with young people in normal world. Nothing new.
7. Entrance fee. I paid 10, – rupees when I came to Pune first time. It is NOT niece to pay 700,- now. But what to do, we want luxury meditation facilities.
There is NO way to back there with Osho the Zorba as a master. However, where are student or unemployment reductions etc…and there is thing called price-demand-curve (or whatever), it is true, even for a customer like me, it is already irritating….bad management.
So, I Ihave my own complainment list. I could spend some time changing it to suggestions for The Resort’s marketing team….
Well, I think Amrito and Jeyesh could make more money and have much easier and luxurious life somewhere else than in Pune. Perhaps inner c is only reflecting us, sanyas as a collectivity. We have to start looking inside more, and be more abundant for the collectivity, not just whining and demanding like children, or customers.
But sanyas energy is low, that is a fact. What is the reason? it can not be only inner c…
And inner c does mistakes like everybody else. But it does not necessarily mean they would be evil or have any selfish motives behind. It is good to give them feedback too.
Dont think Osho would have wanted any Hindu or other “Rituals” at his funeral! He hated everything like that.
Yeah, there did seem a great hurry to burn the body, especially to those of us from the west. Certainly this was not going to go to an autopsy!
Maybe our Indian friends can tell us? I always understood that bodies were burnt pretty fast in India because of the heat and associated smells, and possible spread of infections from the body, etc.
Osho Resort Pune 31.1.2010: Poll closed, Samadhi closed, entrance fee 700 Rs.
Heraclitus says,
“Dont think Osho would have wanted any Hindu or other “Rituals” at his funeral! He hated everything like that.”
Then why did Osho’s eldest brother light the funeral pyre? And carry the urn of ashes back to the Ashram the next day? And place it in the bed/samadhi hole?
That seems to be a long standing Indian traditional ritual, if I’m not mistaken.
Like…why did Gurdieff’s funeral take place at the Russian Orthodox Church in Paris when he died?
Wild anti-religious iconoclasts in life, and then they die, and it’s back to the rituals they were seemingly vehemently against.
Osho Resort Pune 31.1.2010: RINZAI pyramid next year not available. Meaning ? Leased, sold?
Pune group and session rates are higher this year then f.e. Osho Miasto in Italy, plus you have to pay the 700Rs entrance fee.
What is the plan behind all this?
Good oshobob, now we are talking something new.
(I do love Indian culture, everything about it, but this is different thing)
Einstein ordered that there would be no Jewish rituals at his funeral. Fortunately this was acceded to according to the biographers.
Familes tend to take over at funerals in my experience and re-assume their own traditions, etc, even when in life the individual has been a total rebel.
Clearly some family ritual was re-assumed here with Osho, but the main one ignored about “glimpsing” could have easily been his wish.
Yes Anand. Good point. Inner c is not doing marketing research.
Have you seen this documentary (done by English, non-sanyasin, I think) ? It’s really fanny. I love it.
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I hope link is ok. It is about No Mind festival in Sweden (most of the organizers are sanyasins, but I have nothing to do with it). Point is, they get 1000 participants for 2 weeks every summer.
They do something new. And have different price levels.
The Resort will loose the customers, if the management will not improve.
We, sanyasins want soul (not religion), fun, freedom and transparency (not rigid, unnecessary regulations or arrogant attitude) , luxury facilities (no need to over do it) for decent price levels and different ways to participate.
did you know that one of the reasons it has been slow to bring in modern sanitation with running water into india,is the widely held traditional,religious based brahminical hygene idea,supported by ancient texts,that one should not defecate directly into water?
so india turned into a vast public toilet.
people ended up literally living in shit because of religious crap!
(don`t get me wrong,i love india too-as i have said before,squatting in a parched field with 60 or seventy others,and letting the bowels fly can be an enlightening experience for us westerners,cheaper and more effective that most of your cutting edge “therapies”.)
the point is,with all this:
osho said this,osho said that,his wishes,his words,his “philosophy”quotes,quotes and more quotes……
we will end up the same way .
walking around in piles of religious psycho-shit
because what people said and did in the past.
count me out.
What if the Resort is going bankruptcy? There are not so many people for more than 2 week…
it is stupid to raise the prices that high.
that’s right Heraclitus, families do tend to take over at funerals, but….
in Osho’s case his family members that were involved were his sannyasins, supposedly freed from the shackles of tradition — that’s the theory anyway…
Osho’s mom and dad were his sannyasins, that oldest brother Vijay was, his brother OshoShailendra was, and probably some more of his 11 brothers and sisters, if not all of them.
So, if his family members were traditional Jains, and they took his body back to the little village of Kuchwada in Madhya Pradesh for a closed family funeral in the local Jain Indian tradition, then ok, we could accept it.
But that wasn’t the case here….
In Gurdjieff’s case, it’s a strange story too. There supposedly were some brothers (and maybe sisters) involved in his life…G. even talked about some ongoing family businesses — rug selling, and things like that — that he and his family were involved in. These people never surfaced in ‘The Work’ stories, but could have popped up at the end to do the orthodox Ruskie church service thing, who knows…
As to the justification of taking Osho’s body quickly to the burning ghats because of body deterioration concerns, that’s just a bunch of hooey. Then that would be the case with everyone dying in India, which it is not. Even if the sannyasins had concerns there, they could put Osho’s body under a refrigerated clear acrylic enclosure for indefinite public viewing and darshan. Or just dump a some buckets of ice cubes all around his body, like some kind of a summer party oerduerve festival smorgasboard thing….Amrito and his medical team could have come up with something unique…Osho loved very cool surroundings — remember all the Ranch World Press interviews, with the journalists wearing coats and scrarfs, and asking Osho, “It’s really cold in here, don’t you think?” Osho replies, “No, not cold, just cool….that’s the way I like it.”
His body could easily have been kept well pickled and static, enough even for people all over the world to get plane tickets, come to Pune, and get a last glimpse of their master. But it wasn’t done. There are reasons for it. Amrito said it was Osho’s wish. Any proof for that? Or just “Trust me, I’m a doctor,” kind of thing?
DDD — Don’t Distrust the Doctor!
Yeah, sure….
Yes Fresch somebody has to decide, but not as a Master. Osho clearly stated that the Inner-Circle was a practical, non-philosophical club and was not to function as a collective Master. I know you have a sweet spot for Amrito. If you want him to be your personal guru that is well and fine. He can even be your special secret guru in Pune. Nevertheless in his role as Inner-Circle member and manager he has no spiritual authority. Neither of course has Jayesh – if you also have a sweet spot for him. A decision to promptly burn Osho’s body based on a notion that this was in accord with his philosophy and would prevent worship is a decision based on spiritual and philosophical considerations. It is outside the realm of their authority.
Other people that Osho charged with having authority would have no doubt objected to the decision to promptly burn Osho’s body. If Jayesh and Amrito put up a philosophical reason, then people like Keerti would be obliged to respond at that level. The argument would simply be that Osho allowed a deep reverence to his being, and this needs to respected by allowing the normal time frame darshan (last viewing). Here we enter into philosophical debate.
Yes decisions have to be made, but it has to be within the context of the authority given by Osho. The principal role of the Inner-Circle is to be the care-taker of his legacy: to make all aspects of Osho available to as many people as possible. If an Inner-Circle member wants to make a specific aspect of Osho available and not other aspects, there is nothing wrong with setting up shop elsewhere. However the minute they say there shop is the authentic Osho, and some other authentic Osho shop is a fake, then there is a problem. The problem is that you have compromised your function as Inner-Circle representative. Yes you can make one aspect of Osho available, but to try and stop other genuine aspects of Osho being made available constitutes a breach of the guiding framework.
JA & Gang have done this with the resort. All the Osho sannyasin mystics and devotees have been forced out, and this aspect of Osho is no longer made available at the resort for potential new seekers. In the same way, OIF’s conduct in trying to shut down legitimate web-sites and legitimate centres and legitimate Osho books is another attempt to shut down a legitamte aspect of Osho. When I use the term legitimate I simply mean that good quality authentic Osho material is being made available. That material may be his words transcribed and well printed, or perhaps a meditation session with clear instructions as set out by Osho.
The decision to promptly remove Osho’s body is a decision that also seeks to reject an authentic aspect of Osho: the devotees and their legitimate interest in darshan (last glimpse) of the Master. On SannyasNews, Keerti and others a little while back presented material that showed very clearly how devotion was an integral aspect of Osho, and not just in the old days before he became popular with Westerner’s and began talking about Zen. Also, it was pointed out that Osho’s view of Zen certainly included devotion.
Now here you may simply say that Jayesh and Amrito also have a legitimate interest. They have a view of Osho in his last years that is considered in some way ‘Zen’. ‘Zen’ to Jayesh and Amrito excludes devotion. Their idea of Zen is their interpretation of Osho’s idea of Zen. Their idea of Osho Zen is inconsistent with Osho’s own ideas. They have a certain interpration of Osho Zen, and this seeks to reject devotion. This puts them in the position of saying they know better than Osho. It means they are trying to play the guru, or to succeed Osho.
Here they can argue that they have legitimate interests, along with their supporters, and these interests should be catered for. This makes sense, but it does not give them the right to criticise or reject other legitimate interests. In the instance of Osho’s funeral, this simply means that they do not have to attend any ceremony if it does not suit them. They can sit in their Zen posture in their room until it is over if they like. However what they cannot do is try and interfere in another legitimate interest that other Osho sannyasins have – the interest in darshan (last glimpse). The key is that to do this is to negate an aspect of Osho, when their role is to make all aspects of Osho available: to be the care-takers of his whole legacy, not just a part of it that suits themselves.
As stated previously, if they feel strongly enough they can build a centre elsewhere, but they have no right to pursue only one aspect of Osho in the Pune space. As also stated previously, if at that other centre they not only seek to further one aspect of Osho, but also seek to reject or negate another aspect of Osho that may be being pursued elsewhere, then they are breaching their responsibilities as members of the Osho Inner-Circle. Basically, if they want to go and play guru so be it, but not in the name of Osho.
Fresch, it is not evil to raise legitimate points, state credible facts, and make sound arguments. Here is a hint, if you have a bias because you like Amrito, than do not let that cloud your objectivity. The more aware a person is the more the biases that create neurosis are removed. A mental bias equates to unconsciousness.
Yehaa
Abhay
http://oshobuddhism.blogspot.com
fresch, Thanks for contribution , l agree with you most of points , but in the end you wrote something which i disagree
you said jayesh and amrito can make more money in west and can have more luxury and better life in west. that is not true……..it has been tried by them , but did not work out. it is hard and there is no luxury in west for them because law and order is good in west ………..in india they have luxury to play with law and tax department . jayesh owns the commune or resort which is worth more than 100 million dollers , ( 500 crores ) . in west he would have own couple of real easted no more than worth 5 million and amrito would have make no more than 5000 uk pounds being the thrid rate doctor…….there are one million doctors here and too much compitition . so my point is that jayesh and amrito have better life in pune with money , than in west………….here nobody would talk about them on website like we stupid people do …….i have to meditate and change my focus to osho insted of jayesh and amrito
hello Indian friends?
Why are you not answering?
Did I hurt your hindu religious feelings?
Harri wrote : “As I am sure that Osho did not stipulate Jayesh take pole position in the procession to the ghats, I am also sure that Osho did not stipulate any time frame for carrying this out.”
I was in Pune on the 19th and 20th Jan, 1990. As far as I recall, on the 20th, the date of ‘I Leave You My Dream’, Amrito said Osho said the previous day : “Just take me to Buddha Hall for ten minues and then take me to the burning ghats.”
Yet Harri is “sure” Osho did not stipulate this!
Text from ‘I Leave You My Dream’ below….
“And what about the celebration?” I asked.
“Just take me to Buddha Hall for ten minutes,” He said, “and then take me to the burning ghats -and put my hat and socks on me before you take my body.”
See below for complete text of ‘I Leave You My Dream.’
http://www.tabaan.de/osho/odeath/imag03.html
Alok John,
I think there’s some confusion in your recollection as to the day that Doc Amrito addressed the gathering of sannyasins and read that prepared speech that was filmed, which later made up the beginning of the video “I Leave You My Dream.”
Although in the written text link (which, btw, is not complete as stated, when compared to the video — the last part is left out), it appears Amrito is speaking the day after Osho “died,” the sequence of the video clips does not support that.
First comes the speech, with Amrito ending up saying, (and I paraphrase)–”so let’s give our master the great send-off he deserves!” …to the wild applause of the audience. Then, the video continues with the shots of Osho’s “body” on the podium, the bier carriers — Jayesh, Amrito, Anando, Avirbhava, Mukta, Neelam, etc. picking up the stretcher and carrying it off. Then to the ghats, then the burning, then the return with brother Vijay holding the urn, then the placing of the urn in the bed with Vijay and Amirito. Sannyasins singing and dancing all throughout.
So, from this, it appears that Amrito read that prepared speech between the time Osho died on Jan. 19, and a few hours later before the body was carried to the ghats.
At least that was it seems. I have watched this video over 10 times. Unless the media dept. that made the video switched the time sequence of the speech and the carrying of Osho off. And Amrito was inciting the crowd to give Osho a great “send-off” the next night in some day-after White Robe singing and dancing “celebration send-off”, that was not shown on the video at all.
Since you were there those 2 days, what exactly is your personal recollection of when that speech was made?
Bob,
Very little was said on the 19th. We all assembled for White Robe. At about 7 pm Amrito announced that Osho had left his body at about 5pm. This was the first I knew of the death. Amrito explained that the body would be brought to Buddha Hall for ten minutes, then off to the burning ghats. The body did not appear for a while, maybe an hour. We were all there in Buddha Hall for an hour shouting loud “Oshos” to high energy music. So the body is bought in at about 8pm, and we shouted loud “Oshos” to the music for ten minutes. Then off to the ghats, a ten or fifteen minute walk. There was unforgettable singing as the body was burnt, especially I remember the song “The Universe is Singing a Song on a day like this.”
Dr Amrito did make a big speech on the 20th January. The speech was the same as or similar to this text http://www.tabaan.de/osho/odeath/imag03.html
I have seen the ‘I Leave You My Dream’ video, but not for years. It may be that events from the two days are not in sequence in the video, for “artistic” reasons. I do not know which day Amrito said “so let’s give our master the great send-off he deserves!”
I am sure Dr Amrito made his big speech on the 20th. People were too shocked for a big speech on the 19th.
Alok, my copy of this video is in video cassette format (remember those days, long, long ago….!), I don’t have a VCR player anymore, so i’m going to go up to the university where they have some players, and review this ILYMD video. I haven’t seen it for years either. I’ll check the sequences, what Amrito said, etc. Maybe i can make a post later today if I see anything worth reporting that is new.
By the way, that doctor that determined that Osho died of “heart failure,” was an Indian sannyasin, I think. In-house death certificate, Indian style, sannyasin style. It might be wise to be a little skeptical of it.
Bob, also do consider the purpose of making ‘I Leave You My Dream.’
Osho had just died. People in centres all over the world needed to be told what had happened. They needed to be reassured that Osho’s work would continue. No doubt copies of the video were couriered all over the world quite soon after the 20th.
People in centres would have learnt quickly by phone, but the video would have helped everyone get over the shock.
Just got back from the university VCR room. I reviewed both “I Leave You My Dream”, and “The Rising Moon.”
Alok, it looks like you’re right on the major Amrito prepared speech being given the day after Osho died, Jan. 20. At least according to the dates flashed on the screen.
Here’s how the video plays out:
– Scrolling Text: dated Jan. 18, explaining how Osho has been very sick the last few days.
– short video clip of Amrito in white robe on podium in Buddha Hall, no date given. He ends up saying something like “Let’s give him the send-off he deserves.” Crowd cheers.
– extended video beginning with Osho’s body being carried onto the podium by inner circle types. Then the rest of the video of events,ending with spaced out, smiling sannyasins strolling around the samadhi, outside, etc.
– extended video of Amrito in white robe again on podium, this time dated Jan. 20, the day after Osho died. He begins with ” In the last few days, Osho has been very sick….” ,maybe 15 minutes of prepared speech, ending with “it’s almost 7 o’clock, he’ll be waiting for us for that to happen again.”
So either Amrito gave those first words on the 19th, or it was spliced in from the speech given the next night. It’s a little hard to tell, because Amrito used the present tense for everything, as to Osho’s wishes of not speaking of him in the past tense.
To be honest, it’s not the exact dates and times of the sequences that tilt me really, looking at that video, it’s something else…
Looking at the Rising Moon video though, the dyed hair story is very apparant, there is B&W film of him in the late 60′s it looks like, with all Indian audiences, with much graying hair in his beard and hair. Then, in what appears to be years later, at Mt. Abu camps and the inauguration of the Poona Ashram in 1974, with a mix of Indian and Western disciples, his hair and beard are completely jet-black. Then, quite soon later at Poona 1, they are quite gray again. I have nothing against it at all, just an observation. Maybe his ladies persuaded him to do it, you know how women are….!
Yes, I can see Alok, that the motivation for the video was to let global sannyasins know the story being told.
A sannyasin recently said the same thing to me. But there are also other motivations for that video — less on the educational and informational side, and more on the propaganda side — that have not been clearly seen, I believe.
Bob,
It wasn’t that whoever made the video was just a bit overly professional about it?
Hair dye. Who cares!
Methinks you are seeing a conspiracy behind every tree!
Alok John, you are commendable for making such a big leap in understanding. It means that you will now inevitably make the next step…to look at your own understanding. You previously had a belief, that you (and the majority of Osho sannyasins) were ‘sure’ that Osho said ‘take me to Buddha Hall for 10 minutes and then down to the ghats’. You are as sure that Osho said this as I am sure that Osho did not say this. You simply do not know. The difference is that you have created a general belief about the matter, whilst I have not. It has settled in your unconsciousness as something you believe to be true, complete with many assumptions. I have not heard any stipulation that out last viewing be in the evening meeting just a couple of hours after His physical body’s death. It is common practice to delay such a viewing for at least a day, to give time for people to come to pay their respects. It must have been a great effort to organisation such a hasty ceremony. The normal course of action would have been to have had the ceremony sometime in the coming days. The reasoning offered for the haste was varied. It has been presented that this was in tune with his philosophy. There was also speculation that to undertake the ceremony at the earliest would avoid a gathering of mentally challenged sannyasins that may find Osho’s death too much for them. Neither of these scenarios are plausible within the framework of authority given to the managing body known as the Inner-Circle. The first scenario would mean that the Inner-Circle is assuming too much about themselves. The second scenario would mean they are assuming too much about others. I also find it unlikely that the second scenario would have had anything other than minority support within the Inner-Circle.
Thallium has an interesting possible symptom of the darkening of hair roots.
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/821465-overview
Hair roots may have dark brown or black pigmentation as a result of the accumulation of gaseous inclusions that diffract the light. With chronic exposure, these darker regions appear in bands, demonstrating multiple thallium exposures.
Elimination is slow with an elimination half-life of 3-30 days, varying with the dose and chronicity of the exposure.
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/821465-diagnosis
Microscopic inspection of scalp hair reveals dark black and brown pigment in the hair roots in approximately 95% of poisoned patients. However, this may be difficult to visualize by the untrained observer. Darkening of the hair root can occur as early as 4 days postexposure. These dark regions are an optical phenomenon caused by the accumulation of gaseous inclusions that diffract the light, resulting in the appearance of a black band.
http://members.tripod.com/~Prof_Anil_Aggrawal/poiso009.html
The root of the hair -the part of hair that remains buried underneath the skin- shows dense black coloration. This may be seen on the actual hair too, if there has been repeated intake. In fact, if there has been a repeated but interrupted intake, several dark bands coinciding with the period of intake may be seen.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6702318
Structure of the hair in thallium poisoning]
[Article in German] Metter D, Vock R.
The alterations in the hair roots discovered by Widy in 1956 were interpreted as accumulations of pigment which form as a consequence of a catalytic action of the poison. The goal of the present investigation was to clarify the structure of these inclusions. Hair from the heads of six victims who were involved in the poisoning of Würzburg medical students in January 1983 was available as investigation material. In the investigation in transmitted light and in polarized light, the black zones typical for thallium intoxication were found filling to varying extents the root and hair shaft near the root. Their intensity corresponded to the degree of severity of the intoxication. When examined under reflected light, the inclusions were shown up with a white color. They thus showed the same optical behavior as the air-filled medullary strand of normal hairs. This indicates that gaseous constituents are involved. This hypothesis could be confirmed by further investigations. After mechanical damage to the hair (pressing under high pressure), the gaseous inclusions disappeared and with them the “thallium strip.” The same effect was attained by the chemical action of various acids, embedding agents, and dye solutions. This process was especially rapid after exposure to thioglycolic acid; the escape of the gas bubbles can be directly observed here. Scanning electron microscopic investigations on transverse sections of hair revealed a loosening of the spindle-shaped elements of the fiber layer as signs of structural disturbance. The gaseous constituents in thallium hair arise as the result of a trophic disorder in keratin formation. The structural alteration due to this leads to alopecia.
As I understand it, it is typical that microscopic examination be used to verify such a discoloration. However these dark bands can be for example 1mm in length. I assume therefore that it is possible to observe this phenomenon with the naked eye. Also, if say the poisoning was low dose over a protracted period, then presumably the discoloration would be more subtle and with less distinct bands. In other words I am assuming that a dull darkening at the base of the hair be visible observed for example (as the hair slowly grows out whilst a person is being poisoned at a low dose). In this case I assume that there would be a visible appearance which is the reverse of what you normally see. Typically people who have grey hair die their hair black. After a little while the roots naturally grow out, and there appears an anaesthetic grey band at the base of the scalp. However if a person with grey hair was being poisoned with thallium I draw that there may be a similar yet opposite colouring effect. There may be a band of darker hair at the roots, with the remaining majority of the hair follicle being grey in colour. If you are not looking for it, you might notice this pattern and assuming that the person has died their hair. Of course it would be strange that a person with black hair dies their hair grey. In a lot of people going grey you will see a division between the grey roots and the treated black hair. In the case of thallium poisoning it would be in reverse. Please note here that the extent to which this phenomenon can be picked up by the naked eye I am uncertain of.
Did anyone notice blackening of the roots of Osho’s hair at the time he was gravely ill in September of 1987 in Pune or at the time of his death – or indeed any other time? Who was his hair-dresser? A close-up photo of his head showing the contrast between the bald scalp and hair line may be telling. The hair may be grey and the roots black. The eye-brows and eye-lashes can also be affected. I assume that a beard may also be similarly affected.
The gaseous inclusions formed by thallium poisoning alter the physical structure of the hair. Eventually, if the alteration is sufficient, the hair literally breaks up from inside out. Even if gases are released, the hair will still have this structural disturbance. Being in the possession of a hair follicle, knowing the date it left the body, and knowing the approximate rate of growth of hair, if there were structural disturbances likened to those caused by thallium poisoning (and who knows, if there were still gaseous inclusions with the same constituents as those caused by thallium), then an approximate time and duration of possible poisoning can be established. There are possibly other reasons for having similar structural disturbances and gaseous inclusions in the hair follicle? Perhaps on close microscopic and chemical examination this is considered not the case.
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0190962203032766
Abstract
Drugs, chemicals, and biological substances accumulate and are stored in hair and nails where they can be detected and measured. Advantages of analyzing hair and nail samples also include their easy and non-invasive collection, the small sample size required for analysis, and their easy storage at room temperature. We report 3 examples of heavy metal poisoning diagnosed because of the hair or nail symptoms. Drugs and toxins that can be detected in hair and nails are reviewed and the application of hair/nail analysis in general and in forensic medicine is discussed.
I have heard that Osho gave his hair and nails to sannyasins as a gift. I wonder if they would be open to providing a gift for forensic analysis? If thallium was detected, would it be possible to identify the time of poisoning? Perhaps it is possible to prove that Osho was poisoned around the time of his incarceration in US jails. If this was the case, it would be good to know.
Thallium is a heavy metal, so presumably it is not destroyed by a wood fire. I assume therefore that if Osho was poisoned with thallium, there would be trace elements of it in his flowers (ashes).
Crimes against osHomanity
Harri wrote : “You previously had a belief, that you (and the majority of Osho sannyasins) were ‘sure’ that Osho said ‘take me to Buddha Hall for 10 minutes and then down to the ghats’. ”
Why don’t you take the trouble to read what I said. I wrote ” Amrito said Osho said the previous day : “Just take me to Buddha Hall for ten minues and then take me to the burning ghats.”” I was not in the room when Osho was dying, so I cannot be “sure.” However I think it is likely Amrito was telling the truth, judging by his character and Osho’s.
Osho was a rebel. Just because the traditional death celebration is so and so, does not mean Osho would follow it.
The US Government prob used two or three poisons simultaneously to kill Osho, in order that the symptoms would not exactly correspond to those for a single poison. The US Government is smart.
PS. I really was told that a sannyasin, presumably Western, committed suicide on the night of the 19th/20th.
Alok, not only is there a conspiracy behind every tree, there are millions of conspiracies that don’t have a tree to hide behind. There are not enough trees to go around! Even if all the do-gooder Green plant-a-tree type people plant a new tree every day, there would not be enough trees for all the conspiracies that are circulating these days.
Btw, conspiracies don’t have to be necessarily nefarious or evil — they can be of the good, white, and clean variety. Depends on the motivations.
Every time 2 people get together, and devise a plan behind someone’s back, a conspiracy is formed. It is usually a survival mechanism for that particular “group”.
Would Romeo and Juliet want to tell the Montagus and the Capulets their plans? Not likely. In fact, if you took all the conspiracies out of Willie Shakespeare’s plays, there wouldn’t be much left, now would there? Every show would be a complete flop.
Easy come, easy go
I will try and help Harri Om out here. The words that are missing from the text, that you have in you unconscious mind, is take me ‘today’. Yes Osho may have said on the day he died, ‘take me to Buddha Hall for ten minutes’. What has not been stated is that he said ‘today’. You are assuming that in your unconsciousness. Even if Amrito was telling the truth, you are adding something that has not been presented by Amrito.
Again Alok John, I have never heard of a combination of three poisons actually leading to the victim having no physical symptoms. Osho did not appear to have any significant physical ill-effects from his incarceration in the US. This issue of poisoning by the US came into being during Osho’s becoming gravely ill in Pune 2. It was from this point that Osho remained unwell and his health gradually declined until his body gave out. Is it that the triple-combo poison pack actually had the effect of delaying the poisons action until some years after it being administered?
Even if a sannyasin did commit suicide, who is to say that they may not have if the celebration was delayed for a couple of days? Saying that Osho died is a shock in itself. Seeing his body is another shock. Seeing his body burnt in a fire is another shock. All these happening in quick succession without the mind getting used to the idea may have been more harmful than following the normal procedure of waiting a day or so. Saying that Osho has died at the start of White Robe on the 19th would have left the entire meeting to help process this. However saying that Osho has died and his body is coming out for 10 minutes and then we are going to the ghats to burn it means that peoples minds would be going ‘out’. The would have been anxiously waiting to see his body.
Alok John you denounce the ‘conspiracy’ theories that are being put forward here. Yet these theories have a sound logic to them. Your theories on the other hand exclude common sense. Of course your theories are part of the same old myth that has been repeated so often that you simply believe it even though it does not make sense. You also then reject any suggestions that do not conform with this belief, even though they have merit. This is called insanity. It is the foundation behind all closed social circles (including and especially religious ones) whereby the people in question have wacked-out beliefs that are inconsistent with civilised and sane society, and are also utterly absurd. Ever seen the movie The Wicker Man?
Yehaa
Abhay
Abhay, it was probably obvious in the context that Osho meant “take me to the ghats today.”
But I was not there. I judge by character. I have met Dr Amrito and know his history in the movement. I judge him an honest man, albeit with a tendency to use PR speak for the non-essential. I think there is not much more you can do but judge by character.
Alok John if you were in Buddha Hall on the 19th Jan, and you heard Amrito give a little speech and then Osho’s body came out, you would naturally come to assume that Osho meant ‘today’. If you had developed some respect for Amrito – he and Jayesh certainly had the appearance of being worthy close disciples – then it is natural to implicitly assume Osho meant ‘today’. However it is certainly not obvious that Osho implicitly meant ‘today’ from the case you have presented. It is rather something you have assumed based on Amrito’s conduct, and presumably your positive appraisal of him.
Jayesh and Amrito participated in the ceremony. Presumably therefore they acknowledge that the ceremony had some value, else why attend in the first place. They did not entertain the typical time-frame that would allow as many of Osho’s people to pay their last respects as is practically possible – within the usual time frame of a couple of days. I can imagine quite a few sannyasins would have immediately caught a taxi to the airport and been on the first plane to Mumbai. International sannyasins could have been their before most of the Indian long hall trains made it into Mumbai or Pune.
Jayesh and Amrito have pushed their ‘Zen’ philosophy at the expense of all other aspects of Osho (along with these disciples and devotees). Even if it is true that Osho said do this or that, it is still the case that all along they have added their own personal touch into the mix.
I have heard reasons for having Osho’s body cremated just few hours after he left the body. These reasons are simply different people’s spiritual interpretations and inclinations. Still, I accept that Jayesh and Amrito would have a case for being involved in the decision of when to have the ceremony.
If I accept what has been presented as the truth, then presumably there are two conditions for the ceremony: a ten minute viewing in Buddha Hall, and make sure he has his hat and socks on. The issue of when to have this ceremony was not presented as something that Osho imparted to Jayesh or Amrito in his last moments. Therefore that decision is something that Jayesh and Amrito did not have the capacity to make.
Is it perhaps that they tried to contact other members of the Inner-Circle, but could not manage to get in contact with them. Even at short notice I do not believe this would have been the case. By rushing through the ceremony it gave Jayesh and Amrito the opportunity to carry out the ceremony in a timing that suited them, and in a timing that would have been clearly objectionable to many other members of the Inner-Circle – had they had the opportunity to be heard. Of course history tells us that even if they were heard, they would anyhow have been ignored.
Did the frigid temperature in his room suddenly drop to normal wintery conditions because the air-conditioner also left the body? My opinion is that in acting in the manner they did, this puts their stamp on having ultimate authority in Osho’s affairs: Amrito coming out with a touching speech or two, and Jayesh in pole-position in the procession. They have also established a method of domination: they are simply following what Osho has told them to do. The fact that they are anyhow introducing their own flavour into the decision making process matters not. The fact that they are anyhow ignoring the views of the other members of the Inner-Circle matters not. You see, the moment Osho left the body they established their authority.
The manner of carrying out the ceremony also gave Jayesh and Amrito the opportunity to draw all of the sannyasins in Buddha Hall into the plan. With everyone elses interests sidelined it gave Jayesh and Amrito the respect of all those in Buddha Hall on the 19th. A nice speech on the 20th, and then a professionally packaged media kit spread to all his people meant that all of Osho’s people came to believe that Jayesh and Amrito were Osho’s ultimate authorities. They had added their own spiritual flavour into the ceremony, and this gave the impression that Jayesh and Amrito were not only the ultimate managers, but also had the authority to make decisions of a spiritual rather than practical nature. The myth was established at the outset, and has been propagated for twenty years.
New sannyasins that come into the fold simply get told the myth. Perhaps Amrito is walking by and an old sannyassin whispers in your ear that that is the famous Doc Amrito. Then you sit down at lunch time and watch the old propaganda video. It is very convincing. It is however a cleverly executed deception.
Yehaa
Abhay
“a cleverly executed deception”?
that`s more than you can say for some people around here!
And this too has to be remembered: I cannot always be in this physical body with you; one day or another the physical vehicle has to be dropped.
My work is complete as far as I am concerned. If I am carrying this physical vehicle, it is just for you. Some day, it has to be dropped. Before it happens you must be ready to work in my absence, or in my nonphysical presence–which means the same.
And once you can feel me in my absence you are free of me, and then even if I am not here in this body the contact will not be lost.
OSHO
Very arduous to dipict what is the final call
But one thing can be said:
It’s not possible that the world can escape from the greatest Master ever walked on our planet— OSHO
Dear Friends!!!
Here I would like to tell the whole world that Ragging is pure violence. There are other ways to be playful. There’s a very famous Osho book: Shiksha Me Kranti, Revolution in Education, which has been in circulation for last 40 years. The 3 Idiots script and film is based on the Osho vision. Read the book and you wud find it out yourself. Another book in English is Glimpses of Golden Childhood by Osho. Osho shows us the way, specially those of us who are teachers and students. We are happy to see Osho vision unfolding thru movies and novels and stories.
I say the success of THREE IDIOTS is none other than OSHO
Poets, politicians, painters, philosophers, journalists, directors…steal as much as you can, from me and my literature regardless of whether you mention my name or not. What I am speaking is not mine though it is happening through me. I happen to be the medium. What I am speaking is eternal and everlasting. I am simply the empty flute and the song of existence is flowing from it. But really what I am speaking is important, not the one who is speaking. But remember those who love me, know me and understand me, they will simply recognize it. You can not hide it in any way. My statements will surface from the whole orchestra; they will pulsate; they will be radiant enough to eclipse the eyes of the intelligent ones. Osho, the 20th century mystic from Indian soil, knows very well the very nerves of human Nature and it is why he has already spoken everything that one is yet to know, accomplish and execute.
When for the very first time I glimpsed the trailor of the movie Three Idiots, and there I saw Madhavan (FARAHAN) speaking as: even to be born I had to fight with three hundred million sperms. The one that won in that race was me. I simply recognized the voice of our beloved Master OSHO.
And when I watched the movie, Osho was found everywhere blowing the walls of our dreams. Even the lines composed in the song:
Bahati hawao sa tha wo,
Odati patang sa tha wo…
Hamko to thi raah chalati
Wo khud apni raah banata
Humko kal ki fikra satati
Wo bas aaj ka jashn manata…
Hum sahame se rehata kue me
Wo nadiyo me gote lata
Ulatee dhara cheer ke chalta tha wo…
Badal Awara tha wo
Pyaar humara thaa wo…
The biographical sketch of Rancho Ranchhor Das Chanchad is aslo derived from the Master. We should here be reminded of Osho having been called in America as Rancho Rajneesh.
After the movie got released, I became very surprised at the claim made by Chetan Bhagat that the story is derived from His famous novel Five Point someone.
Surprised- because this sort of story can be found from any College. The great writer’s hankering for being recognized simply indicates that his own world is so poor that he needs them to get compensated.
OSHO has always been telling us that if anyone is impressed by any poetry or good piece of work, then never try to go to meet the man who has written them. Because your whole sense of poetry will be marred. You will get all your sense of receptivity spoiled. What they do is to fill the gap through them and it becomes a sort of consolation to them. And it is because of this they never fail to cling to it, for that is their only treasure.
Generally the poets, novelists, great writers live their life just opposite of what they write. Once OSHO gave an example of one of the best poets in Hindi Sahitya, Ramdhari Singh Dinkar who is known to have written great heroic poems and who was a regular visitor to Osho Discourses. He always tries to know the ways of how sweets and diabetes can go together. Always talking to Him about politics, sons having gone astray and the likewise. Osho used to tell him: Dinkar! my whole sense of poetry is spoiled when I read your poems because you come in between the lines talking about all the rubbish. Dinkar said,”Bhagwan, I am not twenty four hours a Poet.” Osho said,”Come, when you are!” Actually the inner life should flower. The man should be recognized by not what he writes or speakes but by what he is and how he lives. But Dinkar was personally very timid man .
So far as the content of the movie is concerned, I have asked just one question to the people at large whether the dialogue delivery of the film is also there in Chetan Bhagat’s book to whosoever has read his Five Point Someone. I was responded from every corner: No. I contemplated that anyone can easily manage to make a story like the movie Three Idiots if he goes to any reputed Engineering College of the Country and tries to know the life and the milieu there. But I can say for sure that the philosophy rendered behind that movie is not possible than to have already gone from the teachings of the Master Osho.
Though I say that if one could understand the basic message of the movie, one will only stept on the first ladder of the whole world of Osho; the world that is everybody’s birth right. The Buddhahood that is everyone’s essential Nature. We have not yet been able to make ourselves even to understand the first step of the whole ladder.
Three Idiots is great in this sense as it can prove a stepping stone to move towards the whole ocean of Freedom, Bliss and Love.
It was in this sense Osho spoke a book entitled Sambhog Se Samadhi Ki Aur which people totally misunderstood. They did not even read it and they critisized. Every step of a ladder has got equal importance and place. No one can be replaced.
Appraisal of Three Idiots is a good sign as it indicates that perhaps people can understand. And of the greatest importance is to understand oneself.Understanding oneself is very simple but because of man’s incessant sifting from this very moment has made him hereft from it. The whole exercise of Science, the total effort of mankind in making the world better, the complete Education system if they do not let us dwell into reaching our Essential Nature, everything done in the world is simply a stupid and idiotic game which will keep man weeping, crying, frustrated and compelled to live a life of meloncholy.
The movie has become the greatest hit ever. But I have asked to so many movie watchers as to what is the principal message intended to be conveyed by the movie. I am surprised. Not even a single individual I could find who could be able to confer the real message. They liked, loved and are influnced by it but they are found confused and bewildered at the very living philosophy shown in the movie.
Osho says: there is no difference between the character and understanding. Understanding is that part of character which is not visible; and character is that part of understanding which is visible. So it never happens that one understands and does something else other that what he understands. We know anger is not good but we never give up any chance of expressing them when the moment comes. Therefore, as far as I am concerned, Three Idiots is a turning point which can pave the path for the world to understand OSHO whom the world has still been missing. In fact, we are not understanding what we are missing.
Soon the moment will come when the world will face its final collapse if Osho is not understood. As Bertrand Russell in one of his essays Science and War says that man is such as he will choose death if he has an alternative between death and understanding. At last, he says: I hope I am wrong.
I appreciate the brilliant attempt of all the characters and the director that they all have done a great job in portraying the message of the Master adroitly.
The only thing lacking in the movie is the name of Osho being told to the world openly. The money can be made; entertainment can be done but when it becomes the matter of Death and Awareness, it shouldn’t proceed likewise. Swami Rajneesh’s saying in His mystical book Tears of the Mystic Rose that the World has gone really mad at Osho having been handcuffed in America is enough for world that it has really been missing Him.
I totally agree with Maa Amrit Sadhana saying: Why man can’t feel gratitude?
Aamir Khan, Rajkumar Hiraani and all the great ones who are able to convey the message should tell the world that
This is OSHO
This is OSHO
This is OSHO
The Master of Masters
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