OIF Directors Re-instated

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Swiss Government Reinstates Board of Directors of Osho International Foundation

All accusations against the Board of Directors proven to be false. Swiss government and administration clear Directors of all charges,  and confirm that Foundation is doing its work according to Osho’s intentions.  (You read it here first!)

 

Zurich, 13th September 2014:

The Swiss government authorities (EDI) in a strongly and decisively worded written decision of 12th September 2014 reversed an earlier order which had temporarily suspended the board of directors of Osho International Foundation after accusations made by Robert Doetsch aka “Swami Ramateertha” proved to be totally false and baseless. (We had informed you in a mailing in June about the decision of the European Trademark case, decided in favor of the Zurich foundation, and the new attack by Ramateertha which had taken place at the time.)

As a result of this 12th September decision the five directors of the Foundation have been reinstated by the Swiss government with full control of all day-to-day activities of OIF, including all publishing and international licensing activities of Osho’s works around the world.

What follows is a translation of some relevant excerpts of the decision of the Swiss authorities.
“As became apparent shortly after the initiation of the above-mentioned Order and once the administrator had commenced his work, the allegations raised in the regulatory complaint regarding improper use, or even illegal appropriation of Foundation funds by bodies of the Foundation, could not be substantiated […] In particular, there was no evidence whatsoever of any conduct by the Foundation’s bodies that would be of relevance as far as criminal law is concerned, as had been repeatedly indicated by the complainant….”
“The investigations of the EDI [Federal Department of Home Affairs], the extensive work of the administrator, and the disclosure of internal relationships by the respondents themselves, have showed that the Osho International Foundation thoroughly fulfills its purpose of spreading the teachings and messages of Osho, both directly through “Publishing Agreements” with publishers as well as indirectly via the Osho International Foundation in India, which in turn has entered into agreements with Indian publishers.”

“The central allegation by the complainant, that a purposive, global, confusing network of companies was established in order to thereby be able to siphon off assets in favor of the respondents, has proved to have no substance whatsoever.”

While the official Zurich complaint was filed by Ramateertha in his personal name, two other complainants had asked government authorities to keep their names anonymous in the official papers but later claimed publicly, on the internet, to have been part of this action. The Swiss government came to understand in the course of this legal case that Ramateertha was not acting alone in this endeavor, but was in fact fronting for a group of people who have been attacking the intellectual properties of Osho’s work (copyright and trademark) for over 14 years.
The response to Ramateertha’s attack by the directors of Osho International Foundation was supported by several submissions, some from highly reputable law firms, giving the Swiss government valuable insights into the background of Doetsch’s methods, history and involvement in attacks against the foundation over more than a decade.
“Since the year 2000, the complainant [Ramateertha] and closely related parties attempted to take legal action against Respondent 1 [OIF] in different countries, with the aim to “bring down” the trademarks and copyrights of Osho International Foundation. The complainant himself apparently conducts lucrative business affairs under the name Osho through various enterprises. The EDI was unaware of this background; the supervisory complaint of May 20, 2014, in its section “motivation and legitimacy of the complainant” makes no mention of this, so the impression was created that the complainant was acting as an individual and not as a representative of interested parties or of actual competitors of respondent 1.”

As actual evidence responding to the accusation was submitted, the Swiss authorities became more and more aware in these proceedings that Ramateertha had provided, not only misleading and false information in his complaint against the board of directors, he had also withheld important information about his past involvement of orchestrating legal attacks against the foundation and Osho’s work. By way of example Ramateertha failed to inform the Swiss authorities that he was behind the recent legal action of attacking the foundation’s European trademark and that he had earlier tried to attack the legal and international copyright protection of Osho’s work that was personally put in place by Osho. These “omissions” changed now the course of this legal action.
“The August 12, 2014 response to the complaint does not only invalidate the raised accusations and allegations against respondents 2-6; the corresponding statements additionally place the complainant himself in an unfavorable light.”

While the Swiss government was initially obliged by law to take every complaint seriously, it quickly became obvious to everybody involved that the allegations were false and had been filed without any proof, and were moreover intended to damage the Foundation and the reputation of the members of the board. As a result of the omissions the Government will also re-evaluate the legitimacy from the very outset of Ramateertha’s complaint. In other words whether Ramateertha should have been given the standing to even file this action at all.

“In the June 2, 2014 Order this legitimacy within this framework regarding the complainant was confirmed. Due to the current file situation, however, this question appears to be open again […]. The re-evaluation of the legitimacy of the complainant shall be reserved for the final decision in the present complaint….”

The Swiss authorities also had strong support in their decision from the administrator, Mr. Andreas Keller, who was appointed by the Swiss government to oversee the workings of the Foundation during the time of temporarily suspension of the board. Over the last three months Mr. Keller supported the ongoing publishing and licensing operation and activities of the Foundation to prevent additional damage to the Foundation.

“In his September 8, 2014 opinion statement, the administrator also concludes that the complainant’s allegations, in particular with respect to any self-enrichment by respondents 2-6, are invalid. The administrator points out that respondents 2-6 have given detailed comments regarding every complaint that was raised, and that in his view the respective explanations are credible. This especially applies as far as the developed corporate structure is concerned […] which was primarily created for tax reasons. The Osho International Foundation itself, however, is not a tax free entity; it has never submitted an application for tax exemption to the concerned cantonal tax authority. It is thus in no way true that Osho International Foundation’s tax exemption was revoked, as has been repeatedly, and partially also publicly, claimed by the complainant (e.g., in a report dated August 28, 2014 in Oshonews Online Magazine1).”

For your information, the mentioned OSHOnews.com web site is an entity under the control of a group “Osho World” which also calls themselves “Friends of Osho.” The site pretends to be an independent news site, but is in fact used to put out distorted information, often diametrically opposed to Osho’s guidance and requests, and with specific focus on attacking the Zurich and Pune Osho International Foundations. In the current case this site/newsletter published Doetsch’s slanderous accusation and distorted presentations to which the Swiss government refers to in the paragraph above.

Ramateertha not only accused the board members of stealing money, he also, using bogus royalty calculations, accused the Foundation of not making enough money from Osho’s works. The Foundation has since many years issued licensing agreements to publishers all over the world. It has done so at attractive and reasonable financial terms so that Osho’s works could be available in as many countries and languages and as quickly as possible. Ramateertha claimed that the Foundation should make more money from Osho’s works. The Swiss government addressed this claim in the following way:
“The fact that Osho International Foundation realizes only marginal revenues through the copyrights of the works of Osho is accounted for by the purpose of the Foundation and by the Founder’s wishes, in accordance with which the works of the Master are to be sold at affordable prices. Thus, economic success is to be subordinated to the widest possible dissemination of the Works.”

The Swiss government ends their detailed analysis and reasoning of their decision:
“On these grounds it is ordered:
The suspension of the complete Board of Directors of the Osho International Foundation, ordered by the June 2, 2014 Decree of the EDI, is revoked. The following persons are reinstated in their offices and functions […]
Michael O’Byrne (since 2013: Michael Byrne), President of the Board; John Andrews, Vice President; D’Arcy O’Byrne, Board Member; Klaus Steeg, Board Member; Rudolf Kocher, Board Member
The prohibition for the Board of Directors to have availability of the assets of the Osho International Foundations, imposed on them through the June 2, 2014 Order, is revoked.”
It should be noted that this decision by the Swiss Authorities is subject to appeal up to the 13th of October of this year.  Based on what we have seen to date from Ramateertha and his group and his unrelenting attack on what Osho put into place to protect his work, this decision will in all likelihood be appealed, as Ramateertha has done already with the European trademark decision.

Love,
The Inner Circle

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27 Responses to OIF Directors Re-instated

  1. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    Friends,

    I read two chapters of the big Osho´s joke book tonight:

    The jokes about “Salesmen” and the jokes about “Lawyers”.

    And I can recommend that to all caravanserai contributors as well as onlookers, if you have that big book on your shelves.

    Madhu

  2. Kabir1440 says:

    Osho’s Last Will and Testament (Oct. 15, 1989) made clear Osho’s intention to transfer all rights for all of his work to OIF, so I am happy for the OIF Directors being reinstated.

  3. bodhi heeren says:

    This rather clear and apparently well-researched decision should really end this depressing affair of endless lawsuits. But surely it won’t since it seems to be the lifework for some to attack the authority of the people ‘in charge’.

    A critical and sceptical attutude to all authorities is valuable but it has to be based in facts not just personal/egoic dissatisfaction and unexamined projections. (The latter unfortunately seems to be the case with Ramateertha).

  4. anand yogi says:

    This is unnacceptable!

    I call for regime change!
    The tireless and heroic battlers for Oshos vision
    Arun,Rajneesh,Ramteertha,Shantam
    must get together like the clans of Scotland and rise up and defeat the Anglo-Saxons who have abused the freedom that Osho has given them.

    We must organise an expeditionary force dressed in kilts and playing the bagpipes and invoke the mighty YES with Shantam ,like a slightly overweight Mel Gibson,leading the way,we shall undo the Anglo-Saxons with kirpan,kukri and skeendoo.

    YES!
    Yahoo!
    (This post is edited)

  5. Shantam Prem says:

    God sorry Osho helps those who wins the court cases!

    MOD:SHANTAM, DO YOU MEAN God IS sorry THAT Osho helps…OR God, sorry, Osho helps… ?

  6. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    God has nothing to do with that , Shantam

    I ll try to cite you a joke, or two:
    “Young Fagin Finkelstein has just graduated from law school and is applying for a job at a large corporation.
    The personal manager looks him in the eye and says:” Mr Finkelstein, are you an honest attorney ?”
    “honest”, says young Fink. “Let me tell you something. My father lend me a thousand dollars for my college education and I paid him back in full after my first case”.
    “I am impressed”, says the manager. “and what was the case ?”
    Young Fink turns red and says, “My father sued me for the money.”
    another one:
    George is watching TV show, when it is interrupted by a special bulletin.
    “Good evening”, the announcer says. “The directors of the National Institute of Health have announced that, as of today, they will not longer use rats in their experiments, they will use lawyers. The chief director gave three reasons for the change:
    First – there are more lawyers than rats.
    Second – the lab technicians don´t get as attached to lawyers as they do to rats.
    And third – there are just SOME things that rats won´t do !”

    You can probably even more enjoy as me , hadn ´t you have a advocate university training ?
    Then you will know , what is what (also happening) in the human realms , don´t you ?

  7. Shantam Prem says:

    When a sentence ends with (!) exclamation mark, more often it is stated as satire/irony/tragedy.
    Osho gave to the western people an option to create a better humane and intelligent spiritual organisation than they were born into.
    How much and how tirelessly Osho has criticised catholic church and His own religion and the childishness involved in deciding whether Mahavira´s statue should be covered with white cotton or remain naked.

    Sannyasins can decide themselves whether they have created something better or burnt the omelette or simply fucked it!

  8. swami anand anubodh says:

    Let’s not forget Swami Paul’s prediction in June…

    http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3896#comment-59682

    (Sadly he has since left his body, but nevertheless has been able to transmit to me from the Astral Plane a NO vote on Thursday)

  9. Shantam Prem says:

    Referendum in Scotland; first time in the history of mankind, instead of bullets, votes will decide whether a nation remains together or goes the way as joint families get divided.
    If “Yes” votes get majority, a new nation will come in existence and most probably will establish the precedent for other separatist movements.

    In any case, Eruope was always in forefront to chalk new ways in the evolution of democracy.

    PS_ who knows Lokesh as sannyasnews representative is already in Scotland to caste his vote.
    I may ask later, whether, it was yes or no.
    But I presume, he answer will be for the winning side.
    Sannyas tradition of head I win, tail you lose!

  10. Lokesh says:

    Greetings from the frontline. Arrived in Scotland this afternoon. I made the mistake of arranging to meet an old friend in Glasgow’s George Square. I was worried about recognizing him as I had not seen him in a decade. When I reached the square it was packed with Yes/No campaigners, thousands of them. A lot of kilts and patriotic flag wavers. Being Glasgow there was also a lot of laughter.
    Now I am 150 miles north of Glasgow. Mist shriuded forests and hills, First time I have seen a river in 18 months,
    I reckon the NO sayers will qin the referendum, What I see about the nation of Scotland is that, generally speaking, the Scots are a more socialistically minded people than ther counterparts south of the border, where capitalism rules the roost. The Scots feel passionate about the vote. Me? I am a stranger in a strange land that I somehow love, yet only return to for short time periods. I sat in the street today watching pedestrians. The term ‘sleeping humanity’ came to mind. It all looks very mechanical with very little eveidence of authentic. I’m afraid my Gurdjieff studies have permanently affected. It is therefore that my vote goes to individual independance. Like all this OIF stuff the Scottish referendum will not really affect me in any real way. Just part of the much ado about nothing campaign. A tale told by an idiot.
    What was it that wise guy said? Something along the lines of….great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, simple minds discuss people.

  11. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    “….It is therefore that my vote goes to individual independance. Like all this OIF stuff the Scottish referendum will not really affect me in any real way. Just part of the much ado about nothing campaign. A tale told by an idiot.
    What was it that wise guy said? Something along the lines of….great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, simple minds discuss people…”

    oh did He, Lokesh ?

    Anyway, you gave a ´call´and that ´s very good (for me at least)
    Because seeing ´Alok coming in – with – the capital of Ireland – and Shantam´s bragging about stuff, he does´t even to be informed more just a little bit …
    and even the mentioning of `Paul`the octopus and esoteric ´foresights , caused me allergic reactions –
    anyway , by coincidence (?) you seem to just be in the land you have been born, when, on a certain level quite special democrated voting’s are talking place, which can indeed even bring winds to a balearian island , may be even for the better , when I remember one of your more very rare postings about some very shady side of overcrowded tourism at your new home base.
    Even you , i suppose is interdependent and not an island in everday living in the body (mind, psyche).
    The OIF swiss lawyers are I guess , having been very well payed for that ´legal repose´ how it is called – and all in all that reminds me the way (by also having detectives being part of that team) of a cult named ´Scientology Church´, who also is very very successful , to silence anything which may put their political strategy into question.
    Living mostly a hermit (not by choice) life here , my only concern to this as other threads , dealing with these kind of ´matters´ , is the deep pain ,I feel about it all , and above that , also feel , that it is a shame , how much is going…down drains…
    Contrary to you , I suppose, i feel, that precious of a spiritual Heritage of Osho indeed needs to be protected and valued, but the turmoils and also the ´means´how that is taken charge of – or is discussed – just pains me. very much so.

    And that is this.

    Have a beautiful stay in scotland, Lokesh; must be a wonderful landscape and land , I am sorry, I never was able to visit and admire.
    Please send another scottish Postcard to the caravanserai will you ?

    Madhu

    • Lokesh says:

      Hi Madhu, you say, ‘Osho indeed needs to be protected and valued, but the turmoils and also the ´means´how that is taken charge of – or is discussed – just pains me. very much so.’
      In my view this is a case of useless suffering. What good will come out of your pain. No good. You have become identified with something and thus create unnessary pain in your life. It is absurd.
      Are you any differant from the masses of Scots who are upset today because their ‘Yes’ vote failed? These are just events taking place around you, transmitted through the sensory apparati of the body. They have nothing to do with your inner life, the invisible that only you are privy to.
      ‘Spiritual Heritage of Osho indeed needs to be protected.’ From what exactly? If it is spiritual how can it be affected by externals? Osho’s heritage, if such a thing exists , was/is in essence, about a transmission of love, wisdom, humour….the latter being a good one to bear in mind. I read about this OIF nonsense and wonder how anyone who feels they had real contact with Osho can take any of it seriously. I don’t mean that there are not serious issues in life, but rather this is such a superflous farce that is so distant from what Osho was about at his best.
      Identification lies at the root of all suffering, we all have to deal with that unavoidable fact. Which brings into question why expend energies in preserving a heritage that is best preserved in the heart, not somewhere out there? Somehow this ridiculous identification with the external, concerning Osho’s heritage, has at its root missing Osho’s message entirely. Be a light unto oneself and one soon realizes that OIF and preserving Osho’s heritage on an external level are just some shifting clouds in the passing circus of life. You don’t need a ring master to point that out to you. You can just take a deep breath, close your eyes, relax and see that it is so.

  12. swami anand anubodh says:

    Oh, the pain… the pain!

    Dr Zachary Smith – “Lost in Space”

  13. Parmartha says:

    Thanks Lokesh for your report from the Front Line. How is it this morning, can imagine a little deflated atmosphere ?
    Your countrymen gave a great example of sophisticated democratic practice. Highest levels of voting seen in the western world of non fixed democratic elections, (even when this is said I sometimes wonder about the one in ten who never ever vote), the civilised acceptance of the results, and the vigour of the debate.
    It is said that India was run by Scottish administrators for over 150 years, and they made a fair non-corrupt fist of it. Maybe they should be invited to return !
    I dont accept, to return to topic that the affairs of a sangha should be somehow mirroring some kind of voting exposure, one hopes that the very few people who get drawn to really examine their lives can simply live together at an intuitive level well beyond such an over simplified definition of democracy.

  14. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    Thank you for responding , Lokesh,

    And there is some , I want to answer to you in particular, as I came to know, and experience such and similiar response reactions from many of those who visited and sat with Punjaji -

    …”In my view this is a case of useless sufferi-ng. What good will come out of your pain. No good. You have become identified with something and thus create unnessary pain in your life. It is absurd…”

    It is out of question, that I am different, than those masses of Scots , you like to compare me with , but what to do.
    You are not the only one to compare apples with whatsoever other fruits or mix levels of (contemporary politics ) and other levels where conciousnesses come into play.
    You are not the one to rate that my pain is “absurd”, yet I know you are in good company with that. (just look what after you came on the caravanserai screen (Anubodh)
    However – we meet – sometimes – and there seems to be a connection, even if we might not share values or the taste of communicating a way, that you don´t need a lawyer or smeary detectives to get your intentions going in the spiritual marketplace .
    And if such latter standard of good taste is lost, much is lost in my eyes and from my understanding; and if I am sad about that, I take it as a good sign, yet to be rooted in what we called
    SAT CHIT ANAND
    You may probably declare that this is bullshit or mumbo jumbo , that´s your freedom to do so.

    Madhu
    PS
    if nothing good comes out of my pain – who are you, to decide that ?

    • Lokesh says:

      Madhu, perhaps it would be of interest to readers to explain what good comes out of the pain you experience in regards Osho’s heritage, and what form you imagine that heritage takes.
      Central to Osho’s vision was the idea of celebrating existance. Seen and lived, for instance, when a sannyasin died. Instead of mopping about and getting all depressed about the grim reaper, Osho invited us to celebrate the passing of a friend. Great stuff, in my opinion. Now then, could you explain how your pain factor fits into the art of celebration in regards the sannyasin creedo?
      Most human suffering is useless. There is a form of conscious suffering that can bring about growth in our being, but by the sounds of it that is not what you are indulging in. Sounds more like masochism to me. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

      • Shantam Prem says:

        Death does not hurt, murder hurts.
        Giving something voluntarily is offering, snatching is like rape.
        Nobody likes to be raped!

        Lokesh, if you know the distinction between the above states, you will see the irrelevance of your wisdom poured out of context.

        • Lokesh says:

          Chudo, do you sometimes feel the urge to place your jacket over muddy puddles for fair maidens to step upon to stop their tootsies getting muddied? You do! Thought as much. Evidence that shows that you were Sir Walter Raleigh in a previous incarnation.

          Now jump on your charger and go save that damsel in distress, waving a scented hanky from a the lofty battlements of the wicked baron’s schloss…the age of chivalry is upon thee.

  15. Lokesh says:

    Hi PM. Bonnie Scotland continues to be bonnie.
    I was in a shop this morning where one weirdo declared that he could no longer live with the defeat in Scotland. He actually bent over and laid his weary head on the shop counter. He then declared he was moving to Scandinavia. Totally whacko.
    Up here its just another day in Legoland. Wind em up and watch them go man go. There are still ‘YES’ banners in fields, walls etc and I kind of like that, suppose it reminds me of sannyas days before there was a heritage or legacy and such mumbo jumbo. Ach. just like the famous Grouse Whisky, ye cannae beat it.

  16. Lokesh says:

    PS, Madhu, ‘similiar response reactions from many of those who visited and sat with Punjaji’
    That sounds to me like a crude attempt at pigeon holing…wherein by simply adapting such an attitude you can ignore something that might benefit you in regards what is being said to you.
    You come across like someone who does not have enough going on in their life. You are indulging yourself in self-righteous bullshit, which you automatically rush to defend. Had you enough fulfillment going on in your life you would not concern yourself with cornball blarney about the pain you experience in regards Osho’s heritage. Ever tried throwing pots? It is all built around nothing apparently…just like you and me. Yahoo!

  17. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    PS to your PS:

    Reading other´s is an art too , Lokesh.
    I sometimes feel, you are not very much into it;
    The internet also a space where all kinds of stereotypical bashings are deliberately find their ways to the keyboard. easy going.

    That´s the way it is .

    May be you read again ?
    Or not.

    Madhu

    • Lokesh says:

      I will repeat one of my earlier questions, which you choose to ignore so far. I will be genuinely interested to hear some form of coherant response.
      ‘Madhu, perhaps it would be of interest to readers to explain what good comes out of the pain you experience in regards Osho’s heritage, and what form you imagine that heritage takes.’

  18. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    Feedback for Lokesh,

    I didn´t ignore your question about what I meant by `heritage´in your first of your post, Lokesh, yet your added PS then came in the way , and I responded to a climate then, what I didn´t want to meet in the internet realms.
    Sometimes I also have to google meanings of words, as it is not my mother tongue.
    You asked again , I assure you, the Quest of this is in my heart and I took it into my heart. And response will come , when it comes.
    Me, I also have to wait , but will give that feedback to you.

    You say, you are ´genuinely´interested, yet you want the delivery of a
    ´coherent´answer´.
    (I have to go again into my wisdom whisperer´s aid for ´double binds´ and stuff like this, what I found out in the dictionaries)

    What I can say up to now, that it is a difficulty for me, to respond, if I feel the other side already being busy to sharpen its ´knife´…

    I didn´t felt ´read´by your interpretations, Lokesh.
    And on the other hand – to speak about a ´living thing´is really really difficult;
    not only that that is changing moment to moment , yet Being in Existence.

    I go ´out´, – more than you imagine .
    Yet am in fact deprived of contact, which in a human way nourishes the heart , a point you sensed correctly, but commented harsh – up to in a humiliating way and from my side of view – also ignorant.

    So will take a little time, to respond , Lokesh, to your question.
    And thank you for patience before.

    Madhu

    • Lokesh says:

      Don’t worry about it, Madhu. I have a provocative side that I occassionally air on SN. I always dug when Osho told his people our job is to provoke the divine in each other. I think the point I am trying to make is that I just can’t relate to your experiencing pain in regards the preservation of Osho’s heritage. I don’t doubt your sincerity, but I do doubt that any good will come out of such suffering.

      The kind of suffering that can be of benefit has myriad forms. The first that comes to mind is physical illness. There is something about the body breaking down that helps us get rid of the detritus of daily living and pushes one deeper into oneself, a process that can bring us closer to who we are on an essential level. Nobody wants to become ill, but it is inevitable that we will from time to time. It is good to remind ourselves that something good may come out of it.

      We all take life for granted and a bout of ill health can return us to a more appreciative state, wherein we may also have a return to humility and compassion towards our fellow man, knowing that no matter how hard a person might appear they are in essence vulnerable, just like we are. Something that is not so easy to stay in touch with…say when encountering an aggressive drunk at the bus stop.

      That is this mornings sermon over. Now, believe it or not I am off to church in a small village nearby. I enjoy to do things like that when visiting my homeland. There is always good material for a story and no doubt a few surprises.

  19. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    Thank you , Lokesh , for your another ´scotish´ postcard, its beautiful.
    Why not paint every moment anew ?

    And once again, the ´heritage´, I tried to speak of – ever a living thing;
    one to live more than to brag about it, because words fall short, especially with Osho and His ways of loving us and loving – This.

    However , the way to deal – in – and with it – with lawyers, may be spys , detectives or advocats tribunals etc … and that was , what I have been referring to , when I had commented this or that.
    Feeling pain in watching the latter, I mostly go both the ways: looking inside, where there are own individual traumata lurking round the corner (like past commune stuff, I wasn´t able to digest emotionally -
    or looking inside – trying to make friends with the pain , of having lost many friends on the way – what is the case.
    Much of the ´sannyas realms´ found its ways in a broad market place , the wellness – or also the efficiency plus wellness market; the very new thread in the chat , which has opened by now gives some report of that.
    Issues I have very much into it mentally the last decades.

    The pain , I meant which I cherish (without being masochistic like you presumed), more used like an inner guidance, to sharpen my instincts about situations and proceedings , wherein the HEART seems to be lost and replaced by performances whatsoever .

    I have no proof – thereon – never.

    Its just that kind of pain reminding me to look again and again, but also not faking a contentment when contentment and fulfillment is not there.
    That´s my dignity. And that keeps me going.

    And sure – like you , in your today´s sunday morning walkabout in your homeland, also for me here – sometimes wait surprises .
    The last I had , when I was visiting the yearly happening big musicians ´competition ´here in Munic (classical music and modern music) , where young musicians from all over the world are coming together , making music, or better said , inviting music to come through them ;
    there are lots of new masters on stage !

    And so true : MUSIC comes next to Meditation

    And so true also : sometimes that happens, sometimes not, it´s like Grace
    and all belong to that, the solo musician, the orchestra, and the audience too.
    the ´rainbow moments´never to be repeatable, cannot be forced upon; yet they somehow find ways into our flesh and bones too.
    So such exists and no exists. Both.

    Those who really came in touch with that , are recognizable
    And those , who only brag about it, also.

    I am glad that some are even appearing on computer screens.

    Have a beautiful day out -there, Lokesh -

    Madhu

  20. Lokesh says:

    Music, now you’re talking, Madhu. Just finished a two week long recording, songwriting stint. Very exciting. In many ways a dream come true. Will return to it after my sojourn in the north. It is bloody fresh to say the least. To me, it feels like walking about in permanent air-co…brrrrr!

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