Sri Nabuji is an internationally known monk and most famous as a Kirtan sitar musician.
All his public events are free. We like that at SN.
He spent eight months in 1984 in Oregon with Osho at Rajneeshpuram. in this clip Sri Nabuji describes it as the greatest experience of his life. It demonstrates how an honest seeker could benefit in such a context in spite of the strange and hidden poilitical background of the movement at that time.
In this video he describes that contact to his own present day disciples.
He spent eight months in 1984 in Oregon with Osho at Rajneeshpuram.
And it was the greatest experience.
I believe so.
I think editor has watched the whole video. So I want to know whether he has spoken why he could not make up to be with Osho after that?
I don´t believe the guy has no money to travel.
If he has analysed his own reluctance to go further, I can watch more, otherwise just 25 seconds of a religious person´s voice is enough.
There are men who can sleep with any woman. There are seekers who get hypnotised when someone is before microphone.
Me not. Thanks to Osho.
But Shantam, people are different, at different stages, with different priorities, different needs – different ‘karmas’, if you prefer such a term. If this man received what he needed during those 8 months then began to integrate it into his normal life, then who are you or anyone to sneer at him so churlishly?
And 8 months at the Ranch was a pretty long time (perhaps a lot longer than any single period you ever spent at the Poona ashram? Not that there’s necessarily a direct correlation between time around a master and value derived, of course).
Why not applaud the guy for being open-minded enough to actually get out there and experience it for himself, despite all the surrounding controversy?
And be happy his experience was positive enough to bring him to declare it to his own ‘students’ and to the world, as we see in this video extract?
Your response smacks of narrow-minded prejudice, even possibly jealousy at some level (eg comparing where he’s at with where you are?). Not impressive at all, Shantam. But food for self-reflection – if you’re up to it.
I must say, it is very rational and balanced response from you, Mr. Satya Deva.
I won´t have any thing to contradict it.
Shantam, for a long time you have kicked up a big fuss about how “Osho’s vision” has no chance of being realised, as it’s being ‘strangled’ by the Sannyas powers-that-be. Can you not see that in this video is an example of “Osho’s work” being naturally disseminated, spread, not through any ‘official’ means but via a pre-existing ‘channel’, which perhaps one might never imagine could be such a vehicle?
Like it or not, that’s probably how it’s going to be, whether through videos, ‘official’ or informal like this one, books, cd’s, tapes, or personal contact with people who have ‘got something’ from their sannyas, ie a certain quality of being.
If you have only managed a few seconds of the video then I suggest you stick out the whole 15 mins. and reconsider your original ‘knee-jerk’ reaction, in the light of the above.
Satyadeva, I am not spiritually nymphomaniac, who becomes wet to see anybody before the microphone and Buddhist atmosphere.
15, 20 seconds are enough to see how waves, even the ocean, talk about Tsunami impact.
You watched the video right though, didn’t you?
And you’re really pissed off because Osho noticed
and spoke to the guy,
and Osho didn’t even notice you existed.
As I said, strange, Shantam, as you always present yourself as such a ‘lover of all things Osho’, yet here, when presented with a man who has nothing but good things to say about his experience of Osho and the Ranch, you say you couldn’t bear watching and listening for more than 15 seconds!
Are you perhaps annoyed (to put it mildly) that he claims to have benefited so much from ‘just’ 8 months, and has a suitable niche in life, while you, having been around the ashram for years, are floundering like a beached whale, lost, alone – and with ‘no one to meet, nowhere to go’?
I like this man very much in spite of his outfit and furniture style. He is talking and doing his own thing like any of us.
Thanks a lot, Fresch (my God, these webcams are everywhere these days!).
Ok SD, I would not have a camera in my home.
Love the butterfly story.
He comes across as down-to-earth and modest. Genuine.
Just a guy getting on with his life.
Thanks for posting.
Interesting how positive his description of
Sheela is.
Osho was in silence, he did not talk to him.
Freschie,
Osho didn’t stop talking 100% when he was in silence.
He just stopped giving discourses.
But Arps, perhaps he is trying to be a buddhist when speaking so positively about Sheela. Too much trying, I would say. And perhaps some imagination in his story. He means well…
Perhaps this is the same man who has some Buddhist commune, who is sending his people to Veeresh sometimes.
“And perhaps some imagination in his story.”
That definitely occurred to me.
“He means well.”
Yes, I agree.
I’ve heard many people talk about Osho in that way. Trying to relate a personal experience of him, life around him. He filled up at one point.
I had small dealings with Sheela when I worked in the Vipassana building, where the books were stored, in 1981, and she seemed chatty and straightforward then. Certainly didn’t leave me with any impression of being a bad egg.
Seems like Arpana has found a living guru.
Congratulations, boy!
Shanty Pantz,
You were born with a low IQ, and not even Osho could do anything to improve it.
Yes, during Osho’s silent period Osho reportedly spent hours on the phone, ordering bells and whistles for his latest Roller.
It is rumoured that these conversations were taped and will be published in a series of books tentatively titled ‘The Empty Gas Guzzler’.
Loki, did you write, ‘not to follow your feelings, when negative’?
MOD: A BIT AMBIGUOUS, FRESCH – WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU MEAN? (ARE THE ‘ NECESSARY?)
“Sri Nabuji is an internationally known monk and most famous as a Kirtan sitar musician.”
My first response is, so fucking what? For all we know the internationally known monk might have a thing about little boy’s bare bottoms.
A few letters in front of his name and playing the sitar don’t make him an authority on the ins and outs of what the Ranch was about. I have not watched the vid. Maybe later, if I find myself at a loose end and, who knows, maybe I’ll eat my hat for having said what I am saying now.
I mean to say, concentration camp survivors had life-changing experiences that won them the Nobel Peace Prize, but that doesn’t mean their life in the camp was a good thing. The mistake most make is viewing the world while unaware that what they are seeing is actually a projection of their inner world. Nothing quite like a positive attitude for helping make the world a better place to inhabit.
Last night I was on a packed dance floor doing the eternity stomp. Great tech band was supplying fine body tunes under the stars. A girlfriend shouted some observation in my ear and I told her that quite often I don’t notice such things, because I am much more focused on experiencing my inner world while the external world spins on by. As one is in one’s inner life so the world will appear. We are starring in our very own movie, directed, shot and produced by ourselves. So if some internationally known monk has a good time during his holidays on the Ranch it means just that…no more, no less.
“A few letters in front of his name and playing the sitar don’t make him an authority on the ins and outs of what the Ranch was about.”
Of course not, but nevertheless it’s at least ‘interesting’ that someone from a very different background, perhaps even a rather conservative tradition (at least, in its present form), speaks so positively about the Oregon “Experiment to Provoke God” and about Osho himself.
After all, he wasn’t there just for the weekend, he stuck it out for 8 months. So, fair play to the lad (as the football pundits might say).
I love this self esteem/arrogance.
Without this there is no surrender to greatness possible.
Lokesh’s post to Madhu:
“Perhaps ‘following your feelings’ isn’t always quite the infallible mantra it was once promoted to be -
Especially if one feels negative.”
What did I not understand?
Mmmmm, let me see…mmmm, yes, well, it’s not really coming through just yet…er, one more try…mmm, no, sometimes it’s like this, sorry…Nothing for it but to go into a deep trance for an hour or so and simply ‘trust’ the angels tell me something…Will get back to you if I find anything, ok?
The nature of understanding.
It is almost mandatory to wear tie and suit if you are in business. It creates confidence, even if you are Russian businessman with dubious resources.
Maybe to make the balance, it has almost become mandatory to add Indian names and prefixes to establish the firm in cut-throat religious market.
If you cannot have the South Indian dark brown skin at least add Sri, Shri…
Corruption starts when Sir becomes Sri…
Feels like steroids induced muscles.
MOD: SHANTAM (AND FRANK, PARMARTHA), AMADIS HAS REPLIED TO EACH OF YOU AT HIS THREAD, ‘Spiritual Therapy – A Role in Self-Realisation’.
Shah, That’s a bit too much criticism for his outfit only. He looks a bit tense, but sincere to me. And he has his OWN following/audience.
Fresch, I was not criticising the person but the trend.
And I firmly believe, billions of people born after Osho´s demise have all the rights to look for their spiritual mentor and therefore market is wide open for new people to create their own Ponzi schemes.
This belief that true master is a sure shot visa to the divine realms is the classic Ponzi schemes.
In my personal case, my reverence for Osho is not because of his oratory skills but the way He gave us all the space to create our own stories. His ashram was the landmark destination for contemporary seekers. Story tellers were many before and after too.
When I was at Osho’s death celebration I could still swear he was making Namaste in the middle of the fire. My friends (old sannyasins) told me it’s all over. I was like no way, he is doing ‘Namaste’ and I’ve just come.
“But we might do well to remember that history rarely runs in a straight line; it is littered with false starts and dead ends. Sometimes the best path forward lies in taking a few steps back, or sideways.”
— Alex Wright, author of ‘Cataloging the World: Paul Otlet and the Birth of the Information Age’, writes in ‘The Atlantic’ about the history of computing.
- See more at: http://oupacademic.tumblr.com/post/87748513116/atlantic-cataloging-the-world#sthash.RH4BqXly.dpuf
Arpana, that is kind of true. I’ve been in the valley for a while, groping in the dark: what next, making some steps, that still feel like sidesteps or back steps.
However, engineers taught this to me (pls do not undervalue engineers, look at their brains in brain scans in meditation, total zen):
When you close down a failed project, open champagne, gather all learning from it and when you succeed, have a beer. a
Argh, now that I think about it, I still have not had that champagne….
You and me both. Most of this year.
Health and an intractable neighbour problem. (I don’t want to move. Don’t want to fight, and don’t want to put up with it).