The Dangers of Institutionaliisation in Sannyas, then and now.
The rapid development of institutionalisation can be observed during the early history of sannyas, particularly between 1981 and 1985. It is a lesson not only for the sannyas movement now but all spiritual organisations, and there are indeed many historical precedents. In Rajneeshism (1983) there is is a striking example of the routinisation of charisma to buttress and conventionalise “therapy”, for example. (Some readers at SN harp on about what they see as “history”, but sadly history repeats itself and it is only with the real lessons of that history that a really healthy sannyas can move forward. Echoes of what happened back then ring in our ears every month in present times. )
In 1983 the then newly created Academy of Rajneeshism promulgated an ecclesiastical organization in which there were three categories of ministers: Acharyas, Arihantas, and Siddhas. Certainly a symptom of creeping institutionalization midst the appointment of official therapists “. This was on the basis of qualifications and experience, not on their closeness to the “truth”.
Rajneeshism stipulated for example that
To be eligible to be a therapist a person must have amongst other things, the following experience and training:
A minimum of two years as a neo-sannyasin and two years of participation and practice in meditation.
One year of worship-meditation or apprenticeship in Rajneeshism.
Aside from creating such “qualifications” a”charisma of office,” was also created. Status was conferred by titles like “Boddhisattva”. (which Sheela dubbed herself) and these various aforementioned Acharyas, Arihantas, and Siddhas for the therapists.
It is certainly true that therapy in particular, both in and outside of sannyas has its problems over “professional” recognition. But one is struck by the nature of “help” when it is described by those who have “gone through” a therapeutic or “breakthrough” process. Almost all herald the value of “befriending” and “just pure love” from the helper, qualities that certainly cannot be ordained by qualifications.
This “priesthood” continues. They are just echoes of what has gone on before, for example different colour robes for those who have some kind of higher therapeutic status. . A real sannyas has no room for this, and should even without saying contain within itself the very kernel of egalitarianism. What seems odd is that so many embrace such status when offered. We hear very little of people turning down status. Just the occasional MBE in the British annual award of citizen awards. Thank God for John Lennon, he at least sent his back! When you get such recognition and accept it one basically leaves the shores of a true sannyas and the true self.
Sannyasnews Editorial
Different coloured robes according to “higher therapeutic status”? I can barely believe what I’ve just read!
Is this sort of utter foolishness still going on? If so, who decides who receives such er, ‘official’ recognition?
My God, it’s almost enough to drive a mere ‘grass roots’ sannyasin towards the Clone Ranger (but not quite)!
Total, unadulterated nonsense, deserving all the ridicule and contempt it gets.
Expecting enlightened behavior from ordinary people under such pressure is hopeless wishful thinking I reckon.
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The sannyasins I have worked harder on are not the ones who have the best potential — they were the worst; hence they needed hard work. Those who are the best I have not worked on at all. Just my presence has been enough for them, just my love has been enough for them.
So it is not that I worked hard on them because they had more potential to go high, and then to fall even below the ordinary. I worked on them because they had no possibility to go high. Even with hard work, at the most I could bring them to the normal. And they are behaving normally — I am not disappointed in them.
Osho.
Beyond Psychology
Chapter #40
Chapter title: The body does not have beliefs
What “pressure” do you mean, Arpana?
To me, this sort of shenanigans is just pathetically laughable. I wouldn’t bother going near anyone who chose to present themselves as ‘special’ like this, in or out of therapy. Would you?
I have a feeling your a teacher, have been a teacher.
If not, the point I am making is that if you have a very unruly class you will behave differently to how you do with good kids.
In the well behaved class you will probably function close to optimum. With a crowd of rat bags your judgment, not judgmentalness, will be affected.
Have you ever been on the receiving end of bullying in the work place. Nobody works at optimum in such circumstances.
Somewhere between two and twenty one of them and thousands of Brians and Shantams vilifying them. Seems likely to me they don’t function optimally.
I am sure they are not perfect.
Can you say honestly you know how you would behave faced with that torrent of abuse and condemnation. No matter how well intentioned a decision they make, by the time we hear about it we will without a shadow of doubt get the shittiest interpretation possible of what has happened.
I asked Kavita, because of a remark she made here, to tell us about Jayesh. Turns out she’s not met him, but she knows he’s a shit because her friends told her so.
Chinese whispers. I want more than that before I dive in and demand they be slaughtered in the most painful way possible.
I am not a christian.
Arpana, just to clear this one: ”I asked Kavita, because of a remark she made here, to tell us about Jayesh. Turns out she’s not met him, but she knows he’s a shit because her friends told her so.”
Don’t put words in my mouth, what I meant is that I don’t consider friend’s /anyone else’s opinion & whatever I have said is my own indirect experience / connection with Jayesh, while being in Osho’s Pune commune . Anyway, everyone is free to have one’s own interpretation .
My apologies Kavita. I misread what you said.
No, I’m not buying that, Arpana. Whatever difficulties the powers-that-be find themselves in, the ‘status robe’ issue is a relatively simple matter, not to be rationalised away by such an apologist argument.
Besides the misguidedly hierarchical perspective of prescribing such ‘special’ clothing for a few – who themselves are also ‘ordinary’, by the way, aren’t they? – how about the ludicrous vanity of those who actually agree to wear the things?
For Gawd’s sake, talk about enhancing the ‘false self’! These are the very people who might well be better served dissolving such artificial nonsense in themselves.
I mean, who do they think they are?!
Oh give them a break.
This sounds so Christian.
So they aren’t perfect.
Let them play their little games for gods sake.
Maybe they aren’t evil. Maybe their just misguided, foolish. Just plain fucking imperfect. like me.
Maybe this is not good.
So what.
They are going to be found guilty whatever they do.
Osho has provided us with thousands of discourses and detailed instructions of meditation practice, Wants us to meditate, which most people who post here, and most people who get involved with him don’t pay any intention to.
Maybe if they bothered a bit about their meditation practice, they wouldn’t pump so much energy into caring about what the a few people at the ashram get up to.
People who post here interest me. My friends and neighbours interest me.
I don’t give a shit what they do and say.
I give a shit about what gets said here
I’m never going to the ashram again.
I am a functioning Osho sannyassin in the world.
Osho’s primary message can be boiled down to one word.
Meditate,
Not dump your trips about authority on a couple of ordinary people doing a difficult job.
Well you don’t have to feel so offended , what I said was my take on to Ramateertha’s Viha interview , thats all I am not an Osho crusader if thats what you are interpreting & my understanding is that meditation is the most intimate of matters .
jayesh
amrito
ramteertha
brian
dope-rage
and their lawyers
on a sweaty dancefloor
free booze, dope, Es ,fags,aya,heart pills,warfarin,vicodin etc…
turn up the volume.
put everything into it
last man standing
gets to control the vision….
lets go……..
@ Kavita.
Cross purposes. I have apologized.
I enjoyed that article. He sounded like a good guy.
Interesting that he was willing to say we all had a hand in Sheelas behavior, but not acknowledge the pressure Jayesh and Amrito are under, from carpers who could find fault to Olympic standards.
Arpana , I guess by now most of us sanyasins know approximately well what’s happening , according to our personal capacity !
No, Arpana, it’s not a “trip”, neither is it “Christian” (that sounds like your trip, especially regarding your support, tacit or otherwise, for berobed ‘priests’, highly visible and therefore somehow above the ‘common herd’), it’s just pointing out an absurdity. And why throw in the red herring of meditation? It has nothing to do with whether I or anyone else ‘meditates’ or not.
As Parmartha has said – and presumably,as all of us know by now – successful therapy is very much a function of the degree of intimate connection between therapist and client – call it ‘love’ perhaps – of how much one is prepared to open up, to risk, in that most unusual situation.
Sure, as Frank says, there’s bound to be an unbalanced relationship at first, and for a while there’ll invariably be an element of ‘transference’, to a greater or lesser degree, but any decent therapist will work with that and a key measure of success in the enterprise is how far the client has dissolved that projection, that fantasy. In other words, it’s not a dynamic that’s set in stone.
Having therapists dressed up in special clothes to broadcast ‘status’ does nothing to help clients, actual or potential, to see them for who they actually are, in fact I’d be very surprised if the opposite effect isn’t produced by this ‘uniform’. Not to mention the effect upon some, like myself, who would find their conformist vanity both laughable and an indication these people are not to be trusted.
As I said, spiritual life is supposed to be dissolving such egoic foolishness rather than encouraging it. In other words, this special robes nonsense is an anomaly as well as an absurdity. Perhaps you disagree, Arpana?
You win, because thats the point.
I concede defeat. Unequivocally. I know when I’m outgunned. You are the champion.
i think it is absolutely essential for therapists to be classified and signified according to their status.
for example,my old girlfriend, ma prem mahamangoes, told me that she she wasnt prepared to do any therapy with a therapist unless he pulled his credentials out straight away.
the idea of egalitarian therapy is ridiculous.
as osh was at pains to point out, people are not equal.
there`s the chosen few and theres the unconscious masses.
the chosen few need to lord it and the unconscuous masses get what they deserve.
people seem to forget the essential tenets of sannyas, every man/woman for himself.
as my first guru, chai-shop dalston derek used to say:
“me and the bhagwan, we got the same philosophy: you gotta look after number one, cos if you dont, who will? know what i mean?”
enlightenment is about market forces and the survival of the fittest, not your bleeding heart liberal egalitarian mumbo-jumbo.
therapists and gurus are like leaders of the monkey pack.
if they want to flaunt what they`ve got by wearing different coloured robes etc, its perfectly natural.
therapy and gurus is about knowing who’s boss.
spare us the pinko-lefty tirades puurrlease.
“breakthrough processes cannot be ordained by qualifications.”
but on the other hand,if the therapist or guru has no qualifications (qualifications are all invented,especially “enlightenment”)or any way to authorise his claims, you probably wont buy what hes selling.
a vital part of the therapeutic process has to do with the therapist or guru being an authority.
you play the teacher-learner game with him/her.
without that,you`re just mates/lovers,enemies etc etc.
you cant have therapy without a power imbalance.
its just not in the game.
therapy simply doesnt fit into an egalitarian set-up.
look at the guru set-up.
its basically feudal.
if you want feudal ,take it and enjoy your power and fancy robe and get yourself some droit-de-seigneur.
if you want it more egalitarian,try something different,
complaining that therapy is non-egalitarian is like going to a bdsm dungeon and complaining that you`re getting your ass whacked!
And this may be a trick of the mind — looking for motivation in others. You may be using others as scapegoats. It is one of the great psychological truths about the human mind that whatsoever you want to hide within yourself you start projecting onto others. Whenever you start seeing something in somebody else, remember it as a message. Go immediately withinwards — it must be there. The other is functioning only as a screen. When you see anger in others, go and dig within yourself and you will find it there; when you see too much ego in others, just go inside and you will find ego sitting there. The inside functions like a projector; others become screens and you start seeing films on others which are really your own tapes.
Osho
The Art of Dying
Chapter #8
Chapter title: A Child on the Seashore of Time
The devil is not outside you. It is very tempting to think of him as outside, because then you can throw all the responsibility on him and you can become completely free of the responsibility. People have always been using scapegoats to throw their responsibilities on.
Osho.
Come Follow To You, Vol 2
Chapter #9
Chapter title: He that soweth the good seed
I know the classic defence of such “displays” of elitist things like separate robes and titles is that it is a “game”, and this defence has been made in and out of sannyas. Well so be it, but not a very good game, and subject to abuse.
I was never drawn to therapy particularly myself, and see any development I secured as through “situations” that Osho created. across my path. Of course like many others, because the old man recommended certain groups, etc I did them, and could see at the time they had in part the qualities of play and a game. Though when legs were broken very occasionally, and other injuries sustained I did wonder !
Games taken too seriously, (including football) can be dangerous, especially when they have uniforms. Nation state murder is often camoflagued through the nature of having some uniform or other, and the higher the uniform the more outrageous the number of people you can kill.
I would still see the nature of anything that has hierarchical uniforms as potentially very dangerous.
I put to you this is actually about trust.
Trust is at least as much to do with ‘us’,
as it is about ‘them’.
What we say about ‘them’ says
more about ‘us’ than it does about ‘them’.
Yes, Arpana, I should think we all know about projection etc. by now. But taking your standpoint, one would never bring oneself to make any assessment or (heaven forbid, will I now lose all credibility?!) judgment, for fear of it only being ‘all my own stuff’.
Take politics, for example. Do you think that expressing support for or opposition to a particular government policy should be judged by such criteria? How about simply looking at the facts and assessing their implications? What’s wrong with that? It’s the intelligent application of’common sense’, isn’t it?
Trust a master, yes indeed. But if you advocate blind acceptance of whatever any other authority chooses to instigate – including in the master’s name – then you’re offering a recipe for self-judgment and thereby giving carte blanche for all manner of foolishness, even gross exploitation and worse (remember Rajneeshpuram?).
Surely the ‘trick’ is to both be aware of one’s possible projections, to not be inwardly superficial, naïve, while also being prepared to speak up and act after carefully considering the facts and implications of any individual case.
‘Surely the ‘trick’ is to both be aware of one’s possible projections, to not be inwardly superficial, naïve, while also being prepared to speak up and act after carefully considering the facts and implications of any individual case.’
That’s what I’m doing.
Arpana, can you make a rational case for the wearing of special robes by therapists (or any group of people, or even individuals)? If so, please state it here.
Please don’t merely play the “simply trust” card, there’s really little or no credibility in that.
SD.
a rational case for robes:
when therapists and therapees wear special robes,they both know who they are.
thats what meditations` all about isnt it,knowing who you are?
plus,some girls simply love uniforms.
its a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved.
you guys just need to relax and accept existence and what is.
all this egalitarian stuff is too serious.
come on,life is a play.
like alok said a while back,if a few losers and members of the unconscious masses get ripped off,theraped or even nuked,chill,dude,they are going to be reborn anyway.
whats the problem?
dont you guys have any trust?
You need to come to to terms with the fact that your power doesn’t extend beyond censoring sannyas news posters.
Your as much of a micro manager as they are. Thats whats bothering you. They show you yourself.
Arpana, if you’re suggesting I’m necessarily chronically anti-ashram authority because I object to these silly robes then you’re barking up the wrong tree. It’s this specific issue that’s in question, nothing else. So, instead of indulging in such gratuitous bullshine, how about addressing the issue?
Otherwise, I’ll assume you’re simply unable to present a rational case here.
You win. I’m out gunned again.
Arpana, if you can’t (or won’t) make a case yourself can you think of why the powers-that-be instituted silly robes?
You like to stress the prime importance for sannyasins of meditation, yet you want to support a dress code whereby we see therapists and by association, therapy, as set apart, therefore lifted into a sort of superior status in what’s supposed to be (whether it is or not is questionable now, I suppose) Osho’s main ashram.
Where’s the logic in that, please?
SD.
I dont agree with what they’ve done, but I also don’t at this point in time feel strongly against.
Humans create structures. They just do. We cant help ourselves.
Insignias are part of structures.
Sannyas News has a crude pecking order. Pecking orders are structures.
I am sure its possible they made their decision in a place and time, for reasons, they, in that place and time believed to be right.
They are not the embodiment of depravity.
Youre initial response was hardly nuanced.
No one (except Sw R, Dhyan Rage et al) is suggesting they’re “the embodiment of depravity”, but so-called ‘small things’ can both indicate faulty perceptions, highly questionable viewpoints and undermine one’s faith in the future well-being of an organisation or movement.
In this case, elevating therapists to an inappropriate status in a set-up based, as you say, on meditation.
Plus the institutionalisation of the ongoing trappings of ‘religion’. You might think this is nothing much, but for me it’s another symptom of how this great enterprise can easily slip into decline. Maybe that’s inevitable after the master has departed, but still no reason to hurry it along through what amounts to an all too trusting carelessness.
It’s just not good enough to resign yourself to believe ‘so what, people will always create hierarchical structures’. That may well be so, but it doesn’t mean one has to accept every single such manifestation deliberately put in place by whoever’s running a particular show. Especially perhaps in a movement like sannyas that exists for the purpose of finding the truth behind appearances (one might say).
Thus I find your apparent total trust in the admin/’leaders’ naively foolish, to say the least. Especially as you can’t come up with any valid reason for this dress code policy.
As for my initial response, I stand by it, both what I said and how I said it. So far, you’ve said absolutely nothing to change my mind.
@SD
This is why I think your teacher, or have been. You gunned the kids down. Win at all costs.
‘In this case, elevating therapists to an inappropriate status in a set-up based, as you say, on meditation. ‘
If you had really gone into meditation you wouldn’t care.
First point:
Total gratuitous bullshine again, Arpana.
Unable to respond to a rational argument you imagine you’re being ‘bullied’! Grow up, sir.
Second point:
A very cheap shot:
Unable to make an adequate case you dismiss your adversary as ‘unworthy’ and the matter under discussion as meaningless. Another childish ploy indeed.
Similar spurious (il)logic might well be applied to your apparently rather primitive standpoint.
You’ve twice admitted ‘losing the plot’, but seem to have a problem finally capitulating. Well, that’s your problem, I guess…Something to ruminate on, perhaps?
A spot of meditation might help (you never know your luck)….
@SD sharing his violent side. Again.
The violent tend to see violence everywhere.
You should know that, Arpana, you’re pretty strong on projection, I hear.
Arps, you have a very simplistic view of projection which short-circuits intelligence and discrimination.
Seeing a quality in someone positive or negative, doesn’t mean it’s not there.
When there’s an emotional charge about it or judgement, it may mean it’s there but that you have disowned it in yourself.
When there’s no charge, it may just be clear seeing.
There is also the ‘golden shadow’, as in mostly expressing/hiding myself through my guru’s words who I worship, instead of looking within and growing my own wisdom.
‘Seeing a quality in someone positive or negative, doesn’t mean it’s not there.
When there’s an emotional charge about it or judgement, it may mean it’s there but that you have disowned it in yourself.’
Sigh
“Sigh”
Groan
‘Groan’
Yawn. (I cant keep a straight face.) LOL
My way is the way of the white Therapists!
Epilogue borderless Sannyas!
“my way.the way of the white elephant”
–shri shri chuddiraj kebabji
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The speed at which the life style is changing in India, they are coming very close to the westren countries in terms of stress, depression and other psychological issues. Its high time ( already late) they turn to Theraputic techniques developed in the west. Birth rate has come down drastically and test-tube babies are on the rise. Heart attacks, BP, kidney failures, diabetes the list goes on and on which is mostly due to the pressure , stress..inflation..insecurity etc. etc.
In the future digital robes could auto change to reflect our status.
The technology is already here.
Standard maroon for peasantry.
Black for the holy priests (Acharyas).
Maroon with flashing question mark for single female and flashing knob for hairy hunters (arihantas).
Maroon with flashing no entry sign for ‘committed relationship’ (siddhas later)
Turning shimmering white for the evening rapture.
Well Osho was a garment guru, eldest son of a cloth wallah, who became more glam rock as time went on and preoccupied with robes and creating divisions. Silly stuff really, keeping us all entertained distracted and in line, and keeping him happy.
he took it all too far
but boy, could he play sitar…..
‘He played sitar
He played it left hand
But made it too far
Became the special man
Then we were his band
He could lick ‘em by smiling
He could leave ‘em to hang
They came on so loaded, man
Well-hung and snow-white tan
So we bitched about his fans
And should we crush his sweet hand
He played for time
Jiving us that we were voodoo
The kids were just crass
He was the nazz
With God-given ass
He took it all too far
But, boy, could he play sitar
Making love with his ego
He sucked up into his mind, ah
Like a leper messiah
When the kids had killed the man
We had to break up the band
Oh, yeah’
(Adapted from youknowwho)
Don´t wear robes, wear Sari..
At least western female disciples of Indian gurus look quite charming, Sexy and Satvic, whereas our own Aura soma, Ayurvedic massage, Craniosacral, Gestalt, primal, Tibetan this and that therapists look like long but unshaved legs of a red head under the black robe!
For whitegirlcrazy Indian gurus,
‘Sari seems to be the hardest word’.
robes
lunghis
chuddies
etc
clothes are an important indicator of your spirituality.obviously.
i am wearing a pair of workpants i bought from a charity shop for £2.50,
3 years ago
i wonder how far from enlightenment that puts me.
as far as possible with a bit of luck.
“western female disciples of indian gurus look quite charming in saris…..”
fooled again by the packaging of poor quality meat cleverly marketed for maximising profits….?
you are definitely a candidate for enLIDLment….
hey,get down to the samadhi at aldi.
theres a 2 for 1 offer on german sausage this week….
If it’s nirvana enough take a chants on Bhajans (budgens) new om cooking range. I only govinda shopping at Dasco’s (tescos) to compare prices, I’d radha shop at Sanyasbury’s (sainsburys) for their extensive shivashakti and moksha range.
Although Advaitrose (waitrose) is the best for organics but you have to be a rishi baba.
A real sannyas has no room for this a real sannyas has no room for that; Just want to know from the propagators of real sannyas, in which museum one can see such a thing!
What we see today, for example three colours of robes; are chosen by Osho during His final phase of work. It means maroon, white and black will stay in the circulation; flag of Maroon white and black stripes.
Jayesh And Bros. have taken many steps to take the cultish symbols away even these three colours he won´t be able to get rid off. Call it resort; Pune ashram will remain a place with strickt dress code; because Osho wanted like this.
Only problem is that there is no magic any more, because in the name of Osho´s wishes, much chopping process has taken place.
Therefore present day Sannyas and its meaningful rituals look like the poison less snake around the neck of a snake charmer.
I hope sannyas well wishers will contemplate whether Cobra without his poison gland should be treated as alive or RIP!
http://i.imgur.com/WiZ3vNB.jpg
“No nagging”
Lost cause to a nag-a baba.
Did you know a cobra is a “nag” in hindi?
Aah chopping yes, for a nomind experience.
Off with their heads Swami Robes-pierre.
Things are as they are shantypants.
Can you let go of the Osho play centre (placenta) and umbrella (umbilical) cord?
What strike me is that almost all the therapists I knew and know simply went or go along with their “elevation”! They must have had or have superiority complexes already in place, and of course I dont agree with Freud about much, but I do agree that the superiority complex is a version of inferiority.
I must say I liked it when I saw Sheela getting (English) Teertha to work in the kitchens, etc… she wasn’t bad at putting egos into place – sadly – except her own!
As Bob Dylan reflected all those years ago, those who make wars are dependent on the obedience of the common soldier without whom they would be lost… games require two participants and the original post is deficient in that it fails to note that. The organisational leaders of the ashram, or now Resort, did and still depend on the tacit agreement of those so “robed” to distinguish themselves.
I sigh, yep, old Osho had it right, he wouldn’t have touched the place with a barge pole!
‘What strike me is that almost all the therapists I knew and know simply went or go along with their “elevation”! They must have had or have superiority complexes already in place, and of course I dont agree with Freud about much, but I do agree that the superiority complex is a version of inferiority.’
Most people supported them in the old days. We were new to sannyas. We came to it with all our old attitudes regarding status. Superior. Inferior.
Would imagine new people come to sannyas with all those conservative values about status these days
Wearing badges of rank, insignia, also makes people targets of the trips about authority, and expectations, of the people they are dealing with. Its not just being hero. Its being demonized as well. A double edged sword.
The point is though, Arpana, by therapists agreeing to be dressed up in this way, they are also in a sense conniving with the ashram in ‘dressing up’ the truth, giving the impression that therapy – at its best powerful yet necessarily limited, being a purely psycho-physical process – is some sort of end in itself, rather than, in the context of sannyas, presumably especially at Osho’s ‘HQ’, merely a means to prepare for a much larger purpose, ie a greater depth of spiritual awareness through meditation and a meditative life.
After all, one may find all kinds of therapy practically everywhere in the developed world these days, but if people come to Osho and/or Poona purely for therapy then they’re missing the whole point.
So as I said earlier, finding therapists content to occupy ‘exalted’ positions via the potent symbol of wearing what amounts to a special ‘uniform’ is hardly likely to give out a true message of what this community, this worldwide enterprise, is (or should be) actually about.
It’s confusing and potentially even dangerous, as we know only too well how power and status can corrupt those in whom they’re invested.
SD.
This seems to me such an iron, an absolutist viewpoint.
This is such a black and white viewpoint.
Life’s more nuanced than that.
I just don’t see the issue as that clear cut.
Osho sannyas is either AND or.
Not and / or.
I’m not actually saying its ok.
I’m just not convinced its absolutely wrong.
Maybe in that situation it has value.
They may decide one day they made a wrong decision.
That’s how life is.
Sannyas is trial and error.
I
Ok, Arpana, you’re prepared to ‘sit on the fence’ about this one, I’m not.
We’ll have to agree to disagree then.
Dear sirs
There will always be hierarchies, just depends how authoritarian and status driven they are. We share 99% of our dna with our early ancestors chimps and bonobos.
Chimps are patriarchal, more aggressive and status driven. Bonobos are matriarchal, peaceful, empathic and sexmad fruitarians.
Sannyas is individually bonobo and libertarian while organisationally chimplike and autocratic . (Who does nazi that?)
We also share 75% of our dna with reptiles and 60% with bananas and cucumbers…. (just saying ladies!)
For all our aspirations and ideals our brains and biology are hardwired to behave in certain ways. One day neuroscience will explain it all.
Do the-rapists don robes out of inferiority complex or biologically driven self-interest (status rewards and mating possibilities)?
Personally, for our evolution and survival, I think bonobos are the way to go.
Regards
Mr T. Rex, Philosoraptor, Oxon, Ph. D.O.A. (dominate over all)
Sometime, it feels like responding to dominic, but I won´t do unless I know a bit about this person´s biography.
Only idiots respond just to the words!
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003564673/288607601_attention_manipulation_xlarge.jpeg
India is undoubtedly the Silicon valley of spiritual entrepreneurs.
One famous and hugely successful Hindu guru Asa Ram is behind bars as he is being accused by a young girl of sexual molestation and that too in the name of taking the bad energy away.
Now a weekly magazine has a cover story on him and on the whole industry.
It is worth reading.
http://www.outlookindia.com/content11183.asp