ARE YOU SERIOUS? LOKESH ASKS A QUESTION TO HIS NEW GURU
A man of knowing attains to a sense of humour. Let this always be remembered. If you see someone who has no sense of humour, know well that that man has not known at all. If you come across a serious man, then you can be certain that he is a pretender. Knowing brings sincerity but all seriousness disappears. Knowing brings a playfulness; knowing brings a sense of humour. The sense of humour is a must.
OSHO
Whatever one thinks, feels or imagines about Osho one thing above all cannot be denied; the man loved to tell jokes. Many times he declared that seriousness was a disease and he encouraged those around him to become non-serious and to share their laughter. So what is it exactly that is so important about having a sense of humour in regards the spiritual life? In order to find an answer to that question I have once more travelled to see my new guru, Gandhooji, in Bangalore, India.
I was an hour late for my first satsang with the master and when I arrived by rickshaw outside of the dilapidated building that is the master’s home I was greeted by a chorus of laughter. How appropriate, I thought. I found out later that the master had told a joke about a potatoe, who had been run over by a truck and, after a series of operations, was told he would be a vegetable for the rest of his life. I entered the satsang room as the laughter died down and found a place on the dirty floor a few metres away from where to master was sitting on a grey stuffed armchair that had seen better days.The master was smoking a cigarette and nodded in my direction as I sat, as if to acknowledge my presence.When the room fell silent he spoke rapidly to his translater, who in turn addressed me in perfect English.
He said, ‘Lokesh, the master is pleased that you have returned. He enquired if you have a question.’
I was flattered that my name had been remembered and cleared my throat before replying. ‘Yes, I do indeed have a question,’ suddenly aware of how everyone in the room, about twenty westerners and a handful of Indians, had focused their eyes upon me.’Why is it that a sense of humour is so important a quality for the seeker?’
After hearing my question translated, the master coughed as he lit a fresh cigarette from the stub of his last. His reply was the following.
‘First and foremost I believe that what is meant by ‘sense of humour’ in this case is a sense of rising above things to the point that one can see the extreme opposites inherent in any given situation, what Chinese philosophers of old called the Yin-Yang, the opposing forces encompassed by a circle that cause everything to happen. In order for a sense of humour to come into existance a certain expansion must first take place, wherin the opposites can be seen in their entirety. Or, to put it another way,the higher you fly in an airplane, the smaller things down on ground level appear, until one reaches the height from which they merge into one. From such a lofty perspective one begins to see the irony of it all, in the sense that irony usually signals a difference between the appearance of things and reality. Remember, Lokesh, a sense of humour does not simply mean you have to make jokes all the time, or always try to be funny. It involves seeing how the opposites are always at play in a cosmic drama and that you can drop taking your role in that drama seriously.When you don’t take your role seriously, because you understand it is just a game you are playing, then you begin to become aware of all the other games taking place around you and can simply have a good laugh about it. The real challenge arises when you run into serious people who want you to take them as seriously as they take themselves. Sooner or later that challenge will arise because, in case you have not noticed, there are some extremely serious people running around in the world today.(A few people in the room gave a knowing laugh upon hearing this.)
Closer to home, it is not a very good idea to take meditation seriously either, because seriousness is heavy and one’s meditation should not be some heavy task,a labour to be endured, but rather something that makes one lighten up. It has been recorded many times that certain mystics entered the awakened state by exploding into laughter and seeing the irony created by the juxtaposition of the polar opposites.’
The master then went on to tell a joke about the owner of a talking dog who wanted to sell the animal because it was always telling lies. As you can perhaps imagine the joke’s punchline was greeted by howls of laughter from the congregation.
Another question was asked before the satsang drew to a close. I believe that it may be of interest to some SN readers and it is therefore that I have chosen to report it.
The question was delivered by a beautiful young Indian woman in a dark green saree. She appeared quite shy as she said, ‘Gandhooji,is it necessary for me to be constantly aware of death in order for me to actually feel that I am alive?’
The master answered, ‘One need not be particulary aware of death, in the sense of trying to analyze it. Better to simply see what you are.People tend to look for the beautiful aspects of spirituality, and ignore what they really are.This is a dangerous practice.If one is engaged in self-analysis they will end up trying to find the ultimate analysis, which in turn is the ultimate self-deception. Ego’s intelligence is vast. It can distort anything. If one grabs hold of the ideas of spirituality, of self-analysis, or transcendence of ego, immediately the ego seizes hold of those ideas and transforms them into self-deception.Best to be still and accept that you are that which is sought. That way one will wake up to the fact that there is no master, no disciple and nothing to be taught.’
The master stubbed his cigarette out in an overfull ashtray, looked for a moment at the people sitting before him, chuckled quietly to himself, then stood up and left the room.I remained seated there for some time with my eyes closed, pondering Gandhooji’s last words. Slowly my thoughts faded until there was only peace and silence. It felt good to be back in Bangalore. I felt so good I just had to laugh.
I want to make it very conscious in my sannyasins not to be serious; be sincere but don’t be serious. Osho
I am gandhoojis successor.
I hereby declare that ghandoo left me, swami brian ghandoo ,his dream.
and the following guidelines:
“laughter should only take place during meditations that ghandoo himself specifically devised and under the supervision of either a fully qualified therapist or enlightened person or very serious devotee in the authorised ghandoo lineage.
or at the end of ghandoo discourse,but only as a means of entering meditation.
and only with well-structured jokes with clear punchlines.
and must never be directed at important purveyors of his legacy,who are involved in the very serious business of getting their legacy over.”
ghan-dhoo!
btw.
have you heard ghandoojis foremost disciples praten and dimal`s new album?
the gayatri jungli mantra
oo boo be do
I wanna be like you
I wanna talk like you
I wanna walk like you
someone like me
can be like someone like you
oo ghandoo-be-do
Yes, I just love how Praten and Dimal spread Osho’s work to a global audience. I loved their last album of Beatles and Doors covers, especially the song dedicated to Sam, ‘Backdoor Man’.
Yeah, I’m a back door man
I’m a back door man
The men don’t know
But the little girl understand
Now that I think about it the cover of the Beatles ‘Sexy Sadie’, which is, of course, dedicated to our beloved Swami Rajneesh sounds pretty good too.
Sexy Sadie you’ll get yours yet
However big you think you are
However big you think you are
Sexy Sadie oooh you’ll get yours yet.
The most standout track on the album is for me the Beatles Within you Without you, dedicated to everyone here on SN.
And the time will come when you see we’re all one
And life flows on within you and without you.
It’s great to know that all royalties from the dynamic duo’s recordings go to keeping Gandhooji supplied with cigarettes. God bless ‘em.
ghandoo was a rollin` stone
wherever he laid his hat was his home
and when he died…
all he left us was alone…
This also may be of interest to ‘some’ SN readers.
I was in Buddha hall in July 79 when this question was asked:
BELOVED MASTER:
What are your lasts words going to be to the world?
BHAGWAN:
It reminds me of a story George Gurdjieff used to tell his closest disciples.
The story is about a great past master, a buddha, who had a self-appointed right-hand man who was a faithful follower for year after year. And when the master was in his room on his deathbed, all of the followers silently waited by the door not knowing what to do and incapable of believing that their mystical master was really dying.
Finally, through the sorrowful stillness, the master’s voice was faintly heard to call the name of the right-hand man, and all of the followers looked at him intently as he made his way to the master’s door. As he reached for the knob he glanced at the peering faces around him and imagined their envy and respect for him at being the only one to be called to the master’s side during his final moments. He already imagined how after the master’s death he would slowly emerge from the room as the new head of the system, a veritable Peter-of-the-Rock.
Quietly he entered the darkened room and slowly he made his way and knelt by the bed. The old master nodded for him to come nearer, and he leaned over with his awaiting ear by the old man’s mouth, and the master whispered, “Fuck you.”
Enough for today.
Dhammapada, Volume 2, chapter 6
Now, that is what I call a good story.
yes – and amrito (peter the rock) the master editor edited osho and told us his last words were “i leave you my dream” instead – ha ha ha ha ha ha – then went out to get drunk saying to himself “fuck me? – fuck you !!!” every day for twenty three long years!!
Dhyanraj’s story is even better. HA x7
so from now on the sincere hahahahaha ‘s wont be called as stuttering?Praise Lokesh for finding our new hope ghandhooji..the chain-smoking humorous guru from Bangalore with yellow townailes..whooohoeee!
Hahaha fantastic!
Thank you for sharing some wonderful words of Osho & giving a laugh to my being today.
Too much seriousness in my life lately…
They perfomed on the Oshovision Smug Contest yesterday night with their little ditty for the new 95th member state of Europe, namely the Republic of Insannystan. The bookies thought it had a chance of winning with that old style chorus also written by that ancient evangelist pop singer Sir Swami Cliff Richard, he of the true cross and fake tan.
” Congratulations and Celebrations… I want the world to know I’m happier than you…”
‘ Insannystan’, man how do you come up with that stuff? Do you have a contact in the Sannyban?
Yes but it’s been raining here and I left all my spiritual truths in a plastic bag outside, and unfortunately I’ve now got a Sodden Bin Liner full of stuff I can’t even give away and weighs a ton.
http://profit.ndtv.com/videos/the-property-show/video-luxury-addresses-in-pune-273414
Sannyasins from around the world, specially those who are stuck in their memory clock can have the Darshans of New Pune.
when sand castells of Nostalgia are washed away by the waves of time; once there was an Osho Ashram in the real estate hub called Pune..
loved the gurus explanation of a sense of humour…
a lady approaches her priest and tells him “father, i have a problem, i have two female talking parrots but they only know how to say one thing” “what do they say?” the priest inquired, “they only know how to say hi, we’re prostitutes, want to have some fun?” “that’s terrible” the priest exclaimed “but i have a solution to your problem, bring your two female parrots over to my house and i will put them with my two male talking parrots, i have taught them to pray and read the bible, my parrots will teach your parrots to stop saying those terrible phrases and your female parrots will even learn to praise and worship” “yes, father, i will” she replied. the next day the woman brings her parrots to the priest’s house, his two male parrots are holding rosary beads and praying in their cage, the lady puts her two parrots in front of the male parrots, immediately, the female parrots say “hi, we’re prostitutes, want to have some fun?” one male parrots looks over at the other male parrot and exclaims “frank, put your beads away, our prayers have been answered!”
love and laughter… haha…
Lokesh, I appreciate the beautiful teaching that your master is giving.. but i think you didn´t really manage to learn something from him, as he kindly says “Remember, Lokesh, a sense of humor does not simply mean you have to make jokes all the time, or always try to be funny.” as i see you always trying to make some boring ugly jokes (mostly against OSHO which actually makes me feel that SannyasNews is not the right place for you to write..).. Accusations or jokes about Swami Rajneesh look more that you´re carrying some seriousness inside then something else otherwise why would you even bother…
People can keep on searching for masters and masters around the world, doesn´t matter how beautiful is his message, if the disciple is not available with some intelligence he wont be able to absorb the answer..
Chinmayo, perhaps you missed this sentence delivered by my guru, Gandhooji. ‘The real challenge arises when you run into serious people who want you to take them as seriously as they take themselves.’ He was right.
You say, ‘ which actually makes me feel that SannyasNews is not the right place for you to write.’ That you ‘feel’ something does not alter the fact that you are only expressing a personal opinion. That is your right and you are entitled to it. Just don’t ask me to take what you are saying seriously. I will refuse.
“third rate impressionists and their half-witted fans
are the only hope for humanity!”
—– Swami R U Sirius (number 3 in the Ghandoo lineage)
frank says:
—– Swami R U Sirius (number 3 in the Ghandoo lineage)
Careful! R U Sirius is a real person (I’ve known him since Mondo) and you might get SN sued. Get frank moderated pronto pronto.
http://www.rusiriusradio.com/
Lukesh first of all you are a much better painter then here writing on SN..i saw your interview on youtube about your book mind bombs..never read it though..but i really like your paintings!I do some painting myself sometimes..just finished a thanka blue buddha..its on FB.
I wonder where you got gandhooji from..i heard once thats it is a most ugly word and the lowest you can use(something like asshole?)..in india you can even get arrested for it because its related to Ghandi.Scum therefore like to use it.
Now i love humor very much and can also laugh sometimes about your 3 stooges jokes.Martyn and your pall Frank.
Where is the line between humor and and bullying?
I was really surprised when i saw your video..pretty cool dude and very creative..and then that ghandhoo shit here on SN..i rest the case for now:-)
“It was all very funny, when He opened his first shop. His shop expanded and I became serious, there must be something wrong.
Some wrong must have happened as the shop bubble got burst.
I think it is again very funny..
Nothing to be taken seriously! “
If anyone has ever had an argument on the phone with a loved one or worse a not loved one…have you ever realised how pointless long distance arguments are when all you wanna do is shove the telephone right up their ……
if you wanna get your rocks off here its best to be the beginning and end of the discussion, as all is deferred , internalised, virtual imagined, lexis .. alternatively better leave yourself with a smile to …yourself….as proof of being both the reader, the writer and the wrought…
now about that phone call… i just kept ringing to vote on the Eurovoshon Contest on their direct hotline, until I got past the ‘dead ringer’…..
I don’t know why you bring phone-arguments into the discussion. These are called internet flame-wars and are maintained by people who wouldn’t look at you in the eye in the street. Let them win and they go away.
Lokesh says:
>> Best to be still and accept that you are that which is sought. That way one will wake up to the fact that there is no master, no disciple and nothing to be taught.
I accept your position. But then you must accept that there are other positions.
Did you drop the master, or did he drop you? ROFL
BV says, ‘Lokesh says:’ You are mistaken, my guru said that.
You continue thus, ‘you must accept that there are other positions’
I’m not at all interested in your sex life. That is your business.
Have you had a disappointing sexual experience? You could be entitled to compensation!
That’s the spirit.
lokesh i would like to say than better than jokes about osho and rajneesh stick to your lil copy paintings from the african culture (maybe thats why you keep using that clone and copy words cuz it seems that’s what you like to do and then you call it art) and maybe write another novel…
(SN: SOME EDITING HERE)
oh and this one’s for you frank : what starts with f ends with ank and has no sannyas name , puts osho down, puts rajneesh down ,and calls himself a sannyas? and for the ones whoi dont know what gandhoo is it comes from india and it means asshole and it is really offensive to use it …
Martyn, Frank and Lokesh get stranded near Ibiza,
They are suddenly surrounded and captured.
The cannibal chief says they can get out alive
if they collect 12 of any fruit and offer them to the cannibals.
Martyn, Frank, Lokesh set off fruit hunting.
Frank collects 12 apples, offers them
The chief tells him to insert all of them into his asshole without making any sound. Well shit, says Frank and starts shoving the apples up his ass. When he shoves the 4th one he let out a loud yelp.
Frank is killed and eaten.
Martyn comes back with his cherries and asked to insert the cherries.
Martyn silently starts inserting the cherries not making any sound
until the 11th one and he lets out a fart and a giggles.
Martyn is killed and eaten.
Frank and Martyn meet outside the pearly gates.
Frank asks Martyn why did you fart and giggle ?
you could have made it alive
Martyn says I know, but I saw Lokesh coming offering pineapples !!
(SN: NAMES EDITED HERE, FOR THE SAKE OF REDUCING THE ‘HOSTILITY FACTOR’)
DR, that is a golden oldie. The traditional ending is that the second guy dies laughing because he hears the third guy singing ‘I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts’ as he comes along the path.
I appreciate that you are attempting to join the spirit of the thread.
I`m curious,now.
what were the pre-edit versions of the names?
let me guess….
fartyn
arschlokesh
and frank the wank.
now that’s what I call funny.
DR,forget all that enlightenment rubbish.
you`ve got a future,
drop the tribute act stuff,
it could be time to get out on the comedy circuit alone….
you`ve already got your own catchphrase.
hahahahaha.
I wouldn’t be surprised if DR shows up in Bangalore next.
No, Frank, the correct phrase is:
hahahahahahaha (SEVEN ha’s, not five – one per chakra).
sorry,sir.
Yes, well, do make sure you do better next time, it might seem an insignificant detail to you, but just because Dhyan Raj is a backsliding slacker that’s no reason to follow suit.
It could make all the difference to your next spiritual realisation or two, one just never knows. Best to be on the safe side….
and separate !remember you own words..you must getting old i guess..65 or something?
Meaning what exactly?
its funny you should bring in coconuts lokesh -
Martyn and Frank drove into a small town where a circus was in process.
A sign read: “Don’t Miss The Amazing Lokesh The Scotsman”.
The two of them bought tickets and sat down.
There, on centre stage, was a table with three walnuts on it.
Standing next to it was Lokesh, the old Scotsman
Suddenly the old man lifted his kilt, whipped out his huge member and smashed all three walnuts with three mighty swings!
The crowd erupted in applause as the old Lokesh Scot was carried off on the shoulders of the crowd.
Ten years later Martyn and Frank visited the same little town and saw the faded sign for the same circus and the same sign “Don’t Miss The Amazing Lokesh The Scotsman”.
They couldn’t believe the old guy was still alive much less still doing his act! They bought tickets.
Again, the centre ring was illuminated.
This time, however, instead of walnuts, three coconuts were placed on the table.
Lokesh The Scotsman stood before them, then suddenly lifted his kilt and smashed the coconuts with three swings of his amazing member.
The crowd went wild!
Flabbergasted, Frank and Martyn requested a meeting with Lokesh after the show.
“You’re incredible!” Frank told the Scotsman. “But I have to know something.
You’re older now, why switch from walnuts to coconuts?”
“Well,” said Lokesh, “Me eyes are nae whit they used to be!!.”
bloody hell DR,
I dont usually believe in people channeling dead masters…
but…
bernard manning lives!!!
DR., I can see that Gandhooji’s powerful spirit has affected you also. I enjoyed that joke. I’ve moved on to cannonballs.
that you only can when you are blind..dont rush it lucky luke;-)
Ok for you Lokesh, we can change the joke to suit your personal private needs.
If you prefer coconuts over pineapples you can have them !!
i just received an urgent message from mini kang
that lokesh needs 12 coconuts everyday to keep his gandhooji pipeline clear
i am requesting all my ibiza friends to deliver our daily coconut offering to gandhooji
for his private blessings
Er, Ghandoo-ji is in Bangalore, Swami R…
(Useful Tip for all would-be spiritual teachers: Check your facts! (especially before implying outrageous – and legally compromising – allegations).
The 12 coconuts are for Lokesh in Ibiza so that his main pipeline is not blocked and remains clear, otherwise the shit might come out of the wrong hole and that will be a real environmental disaster .
Oh no! You appear to be wilfully misunderstanding Swami R’s personal instructions! My God, I’d hate to be in your shoes (when the shit hits the fan)…
Swami R:
“i am requesting all my ibiza friends to deliver our daily coconut offering to gandhooji
for his private blessings”
Mini Kang, Ghandoo-ji lives at his ashram in Bangalore, thousands of miles from Ibiza!!
Satyadeva, You seem very concerned about Gandhooji whereabouts !
We know Gandhooji lives in Ibiza, and his daily needs for 12 coconuts !
Don’t worry about me, No shit will hit the fan, but worry about Gandhoojji and his daily intake of 12 coconuts. That shit constant needs daily clearing.
Reminds me of that old song…
“You say Gandhooji, I say Ghandoo-ji,
I say Ghandoo-ji, you say Gandhooji,
Ghandoo-ji, Gandhooji,
Gandhooji, Ghandoo-ji -
Let’s call the whole thing off….”
Anyone recall the other verses?
Time for a singalongathon with minihaha…
Don’t all rush….
PS: Mini, you’re lying, I’ve no idea where Gandhooji is, but the real One – Ghandoo-ji himself – is in Bangalore. Just google Him, ok?
satyadeva thanks for the legal clarifications and tips
i hear gandhooji switched locations from bangalore to ireland to ibiza long ago as it has more receptive followers who accept coconuts offerings
this new method towards enlightenment works instant wonders
just 12 coconuts upwards
and the hole is cleared of all rubbish !
mind bomb !!!
satyadeva is getting very uptight and serious about his guru gandhooji !!!
satyadeva says : PS: Mini, you’re lying, I’ve no idea where Gandhooji is, but the real One – Ghandoo-ji himself – is in Bangalore. Just google Him, ok?
&
satyadeva says : Mini Kang, Ghandoo-ji lives at his ashram in Bangalore, thousands of miles from Ibiza!!
&
satyadeva says : Er, Ghandoo-ji is in Bangalore, Swami R…
(Useful Tip for all would-be spiritual teachers: Check your facts! (especially before implying outrageous – and legally compromising – allegations)
now now satyadeva…dont get so upset and serious…
we have ” our gandhooji ” living in ibiza and will delivering 12 coconuts starting today…
his pipeline needs urgent clearing from constipation of his disciples like you…now now don’t get serious…just chill !!!
and if you want to google – check and ask the cannibals chief in ibiza !!!
Wow!!! What happened to all that devotional … ???
Forgive me for my stupidity but I still do not see how Lokesh is against Osho!?! That way I see it, he makes jokes about Osho not against Osho. Big difference. I love Osho & I’ve read enough comments & jokes from Lokesh, none of them have made me feel offended or made me feel as if he is dissing Osho.
Also, I may be naive in thinking that the whole ghandooji bits are satire, a lil insight wrapped up in comedy? I get a good laugh & I think that’s what the message the author is trying to deliver. For people to laugh more & quit taking things so seriously.
Amen to that!
Actually, yes, Cali Kush, you are rather “naive” here as Ghandoo-ji is alive and well over in Bangalore, attracting more and more seekers from around the globe, even as I write…
In fact, I’ve enjoyed the privilege of His presence and darshan and feel blessed, thankful for the more profound insight, greater access to inner peace that’s resulted from basking in His gaze, not to mention that ineffable aura…
He is Now, He is Present, He is Presence – I call Him a Divine Present!
Blessings to you too, ok?!
OM.
Ha!
I must come & pay him a visit then! A chain smoking enlightened master is just my kinda guy
SEVEN ‘ha’s, please, Cali Kush. (See my advice to Frank).
And I’d leave out the ! if I were you…You know, no need to disturb ‘the energies’ and all that….
what about mini haha?
is she limited to two?
its not fair.
I blame the alcoholic red-bottomed baboons
I’m afraid two is all dear mini can handle – that’s why she’s called ‘mini’, of course…
(Now, don’t go blaming those Arse-nal fans either, they’ve every right to celebrate, fourth is ok, just wait till next season, ok?) (Translation provided for all ghandoos, just ask).
Cali Kush
Try reading earlier article, No News at Osho News
Roxana 7 May, 2013 at 9:28 pm
Humour witty Jokes Lokesh writes about Osho
* Then it comes out that Osho is a one-minute-quickie man who likes the chicks lubed up so he does not have to bother with foreplay.
*Osho was, on certain levels, a complete hypocrite, who rather than practicing what he preached did quite the opposite.
*Most holy is, of course, great Osho. He big guru wallah for many sadhaks, especially businessman spiritual you-pay-I-tell potential gurujis from all over the world, who now come India learn the ropes…like magic rope trick. Osho learn gurujis basic moves..move slowly, do big snake hiss when do lecture, do namaste for houllo good buy. He show modern India guru style, big fuck off watch, bigger fuck off cars, pretty westerngirlfriend.
*I don’t give a hoot about his ashes, his books, his discourses or the losers who are so deluded that they actually believe they are doing Osho’s work or somehow bringing his vision into the world.
*Osho’s cronies fucked up big time during ranch times,so its completly daft to make out that he was some kind of martyr. He wasn’t. Crucified by Ronald Reagan’s America. Come of it. Osho was not that big a player on the world stage. He may have been delusional enough to believe that he was. Life goes on and its history now and of interest to very few people.
*Wasn’t ending up drunk in the market place the last of Osho’s Zen bullshit stories?
*Osho was not a very sentimental man, except when he went into gas-induced rants about his over-glorified golden childhood.
*I disagree with a fair amout of what Osho said.
*I rarely read Osho books, never watch any of his discourses, don’t practice any of his meditation techniques, but if someone asked me if I am a sannyasin I’d answer ‘yes’.
*Osho was a very enlightened chappie, but anyone who still believes he was enlightened in the classic buddhistic sense must be living on another planet.
*The old boy knew how to manipulate people and the greatest tool of all is sex. Politicians use it to the max for example.
*I doubt Osho’s impact will still be current a century from now. He’ll take his place amongst the fossils of his time but that is about it.
*Osho’s zen mistresses number was one of the biggest bits of bullshit the old boy ever pulled off.
*Osho was such a great showman. He actually succeeded in convincing a bunch of radical seekers and misfits to belive he was a Buddha….for a while. Such a grande illusion. Was great to be part of it. Now the star has left the stage and the building…such is life.
*Osho was in essence a peace-loving chap, who liked talking and having quick sex with his female disciples…and ehm, driving Rolls Royces and…er…had expensive taste when it came to watches.
*How can anyone call Osho master of masters or the awakened one, taking into consideration all the daft stunts he pulled?
*Osho was also a con man, who made some decisions that were so bad he made himself look like a buffoon.
*I think Osho’s slogan that he was the master of masters is pure nonsense. I’m sure he was a master of something, but it’s anyone’s guess as to what.
no no no – roxana and min have lokesh all wrong !
really he loves osho and all these jokes from him repeated above are funny and witty and getting humorous points across – and nothing like satyadeva says
“When it contains more downright hostility than humour (not that hard to detect, in most cases). Then, it becomes another thing altogether, moving along into the spectrum of hatred, violence.”
only sannyasins who love osho, rajneesh and arun are capable of such cowardly attacks on other people, callng them farty, loko, loko, and fu fu !! ha ha ha ha ha
DR, you are beginning to sound like you are seriously losing the plot.
well you should know eh lokesh – you lost the plot 32 years ago – and every day since – you must be the worlds renowned expert in losing the plot eh
still – i hear you have a good supply of coconuts to keep you company – and a regular supply guaranteed
>> *I rarely read Osho books, never watch any of his discourses, don’t practice any of his meditation techniques, but if someone asked me if I am a sannyasin I’d answer ‘yes’.
That’s good enough for me. A sannyasin is who he is and not what he does. Anyway, Osho didn’t mind people slugging him off as long as they did not ignore him.
Osho is vast and the people who try and tackle him end-up only with a small part, hence the arguments and disagreements. The less you read and do all that other stuff the more likely you are to have a better overall picture of the man (and his work).
“Osho was also a con man, who made some decisions that were so bad he made himself look like a buffoon.”
well thats good enough for me – a sannyasin is not what he does but who he is – therefore he can say osho is a con man and a buffoon –
and its good he does because osho was asking for it !!!
ha ha ha ha ha ha
dr, others don’t see us the way we see ourselves. To some people’s eyes we are all buffoons. The first monkeys that climbed off the trees were considered to be buffoons.
oh – i didnt know – but i suppose those buffoon monkeys still managed to get their coconuts off eh
When the master is alive is the crucial time… after the master is gone then arguments over legacy holders etc are so absurd that its not even worth giving it any attention whatsoever as a replacement for the real deal…you could even get a result by doing everything upside down…inside out and in gibberish…
the free space now many many take to live intelligently connects with any form of intelligence.. and that means most specifically emotive intelligence…
if the externalised legacy is of any use it’s just for a few tips here and there.. but if you really think yet another religion and paraphernalia will do it for you, then welcome to insannyas news…our resident specialists will be along in a minute to see you–the first session is free.. after that please hang onto your valuables..and your external references
yes marty – you make it clear you have no interest in enlightened masters – alive or dead – except to makes jokes on them that is –
and when roxana or dhyanraj makes jokes on you they are censored out of public view – whats the matter? one joke deserves another doesnt it?
yet the cosy club of sannyas news regulars is too serious to allow jokes pointing in their direction – what a joke !!
When is a “joke” not a “joke”?
When it contains more downright hostility than humour (not that hard to detect, in most cases). Then, it becomes another thing altogether, moving along into the spectrum of hatred, violence.
It does amuse me to see these ‘spiritual’ people, like Dhyan Raj, the great devotee, fighting for their ‘inalienable’ right to dish out the abuse, calling it “a joke”. Yes, very ‘spiritual’…
And you’re the one who thinks he’s never needed an encounter group….
Well drunkard Amrito issues are not Jokes but serious !!!
He snatches Osho malas, Bans musicians, Bans gratitude, Edits every Osho song words, Edits every passage of Osho books, is known as the Enforcer in the Enforcement Resort.
Now that is not hatred or hostility but Facts which are not funny !
Maybe we should write jokes about this serious fanatic trying to keep His No Religion enforcement crusade.
Do you grasp the point I was making, mini kang? It seems not.
SD.i don’t think mini haha bothers to read much that doesn’t reinforce her prejudices.
same with DR.
which reminds me.
what have Harold shipman and DR got in common?
they both have difficulty in finishing a sentence.
hahahahahahaha
You, mini kang, need lessons in law. You’re so blindingly naive.
I also suggest you read my last post dirceted to Dhyan Raj.
In this case, that’s precisely what you (and probably others as immature as yourself, perhaps as blinded by their attachment to a ‘substitute daddy’) do need, mini kang.
To stop you dredging up the old sannyasin “Don’t be so serious, man” bullshine when facing a difficult issue.
If you can’t cope, I suggest you go away and play with your dolls….
you’re angry hence deluded satyadeva…calm down and then maybe from that freshness you will realise we are not enemies…
Trying to make a point Satyadeva ?
Well that sounds like a good joke !
Except you don’t get it, do you?
Satyadeva, We do not need lessons on law here.
You need lessons from your Clowns friends regarding humor. So lighten up man !
Remember this is a Jokes Page, Don’t take yourself so seriously !!
A common ploy, patented by sannyasins and fellow-travellers to avoid having to face up to an awkward, ‘inconvenient’ truth:
Call the other ‘too serious’. Then continue to avoid the issue.
Especially recommended for the lazy and/or not-too-bright.
“the aim of a joke is not to degrade someone.
it is to remind him that he is already degraded.”
—-george orwell.
frank you get away with degrading mini kang into min ha ha – and yet i am censored when i name you as frankie fu fu
and satyadeva righteously cries abuse and violence !! – what a joke !
My God, if you think that’s “degrading”, DR, you really are living on the Planet of Lost Souls.
Perhaps one is reasonably amusing, something of a play on words – ever heard of Hiawatha’s (famous Red Indian)wife, Minnehaha? Unless, of course you’re some sort of ignorant racist?!
And perhaps you’re simply naturally not very funny?
well thats not a very funny joke is it satyadeva – very serious in fact – are you aware my jokes are being censored here to make them less funny?
yes OIF are now being taken to the court – a cut and dried clear case of contempt of court is against them –
as they ignored the new york courts judgement in 2009 that osho cannot be trademarked and fraudulently bully sannyasins today with false claims of trademark ownership of osho – lying to facebook and youtube to remove sannyasins posts
they are liable for millions of dollars in damages for the harm they have done to sannyasins by their fraud and contempt of court – and i think american judges take contempt for their judgements very seriously – klaus steeg who makes all these fraudulent claims on jayesh amritos behalf as head of OIF new york publishing ventures “american multimedia” will face jail time
Perhaps because it was abusive and/or compromising the site (see Parmartha’s earlier notes)? We’re lucky we’ve got this far today, frankly.
the doctors letter is neither “innuendo” nor “agenda driven propaganda” satyadeva – it is a simple witness statement by the one who wrote osho’s death certificate –
and you are saying it doesnt matter one iota if osho’s sannyasins see it or what they think of it
well excuse me – since when were you the judge of what sannyasins should see or think ?
participating in the cover up means participating in the crime
Some Reality check :
For those who say that Swami Rajneesh is trying to grab power or living off OSHO legacy and trying to take over the legacy of OSHO
Swami Rajneesh left his home and family when he was 16 years of age.
His family, uncles and cousins are worth over 8 billion US$ and are connected to all world political and business leaders and movie stars.
With his family business interests worldwide he is indirectly connected to most worldwide billionaires and the worlds famous personalities.
Swami Rajneesh could have as much power and money at his disposal if he was to go back into his family fold and drop his sannyas and Osho from his life.
His cousins and uncles are directly first founders of Satya Sai Baba foundation and have donated over 200 million US$ to just Satya Sai Baba Trust alone.
Their charity Trusts and donations and funding for spiritual organisations in India and elsewhere are in the millions of US$
His family are all against Swami Rajneesh public display of being an Osho disciple and have requested him many times to just forget Osho and not mention his name. That if Swami Rajneesh was to forget Osho then they would also support his spiritual work without having the Osho stigma, which creates public backlash and disapproval in political circles and social media of India.
Swami Rajneesh was offered Aastha TV channel programmes and refused saying he did not wish to become associated with “ traditional spiritual teachers “ on television shows. His family wanted to announce him to all Indian Newspapers and reporters in press conference as an official guru and introduce him, as his wearing a lungi and his humble outerways are suitable to Indian masses. They also appreciate his vision of not charging anything for his spiritual message and only accepting donations as a spiritual being.
Those who think Osho is a encashable commodity in India or even worldwide have some bad news, as unfortunately Osho is not acceptable in the general world religions or the masses of comman people at large.
In that sense Osho is a liability for any person who wants power or money.
Remember Swami Rajneesh also works for Free, and does not charge or sell Osho in any way, so the question of encashing Osho is absurd !
Infact the people who are encashing the Osho legacy are the Osho Therapists and OIF management who are selling Osho for business and money themselves.
First get the facts right then accuse or blindly judge someone.
I have also placed in past articles Sannyasnews about his extensive world travels to over 366 cities in 37 countries and his success in working abroad in USA, London and Hongkong.
To put him down outright is plain jealousy or propaganda against him.
We should learn to be humble and look carefully at Swami Rajneesh and what he has to offer to the Osho movement and how much he has sacrificed in his life to keep himself pure, simple, humble and directly approachable as a living Buddha.
He is a shining example for me and those who love and understand him, and those who are seeking someone who is a devotee of Osho and walked the path for now 32 years consistently with his life and actions.
Remember Swami Rajneesh always brings his master Osho before himself and always states that all that he shares is the grace of his master Osho.
You want to crucify him ? Then remember what Osho says, that we always crucify Buddhas and misunderstand them !!!
Sorry mk I am not buying. I can’t even read what you write. As if SR is making some great sacrifice that I am suppose to look up to. The intelligent disciple would go back to his family, get all that lovely lolly and build us a paradise to live in. Anything else is just a coward’s cop-out.
You’re doin a fine job yerself ,Satyadevas …as they say in Ireland..
.Did you get your guide to outing the zealots from watching Enlightened Blue Peter , like I did……. ” next week John will be showing us how to unmask a fanatic who is in a permanent state of denial by using just some sticky back plastic and some fairy liquid bottles (ask your mum first ) and a white coat….
anyway talking of of this very ire-land here of which you do a fine fine job, ay, the gnashing of the lord’s teeth and hell fire and thunderstorms threatened……to be sure etc etc…
..i believe religious copy cat-ing includes making accusations in the hope that they stick whilst keeping a lot under wraps, in the style of a former guru’s organization and himself.. so on that basis old captain scarlet and the mysteron and ons has got Osho down to a tee . As a ruse or unproveable fact depending on which side you’re batting for , potentially effective but with all sorts of side effects. ….(Just some sellotape there and there….)
Having a guru who lies or cannot prove the truth of claims was never an obstacle to me being around him (Osho), and had it not been for the sleight of hand where we believed the commune nose-in the-air inaccessibility of the super commune organisers etc was a form of trust and not insanity, then his anti authoritarian political spiel would have been much more durable, and (could not) may not have led to the debacles, replicants and polarised inhospitality we have today.Which is no bad thing in itself , par for the course actually , but also a huge pointless distraction.(which of course fills my time up quite nicely too.)
But as I say it was a different sort of rapport with many of his his sannyas mates, that obfuscated youthful inexperience on all sorts of regrettable levels , both of my own and structural commune reasons. None of which have anything to do with wanting things to have been different, otherwise I wouldn’t be the chirpy chappy I am today, as Frank says in spite of, not because of. Which is where religions have to work to do somersaults to keep retaining their linear credibility in the face of their own and adherents’ absurdity.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22250412
when is a zealot not a zealot ? – when he’s martyn zealously pushing his anti osho agenda ! ha ha ha ha ha – now then martyn – why are you so zealously writing against osho and his disciples? –
if you dont like osho theres no problem – just ignore him and be done with it –
yet you are here everyday in a forum supposedly for osho’s sannyasins, making stories to prove that you are osho’s equal or better, in your imaginary clevermind club that you wish to make out of sannyas news
against osho and his disciples—- against osho and his disciples—- against osho and his disciples—like listening to a stuck record. DR, can’t you come up with something new. instead of your anti-Osho rubbish. You have what is called a one track mind, and it just goes round at 33rpm.
when osho ashram existed all kinds of nuts were tolerated….thus speaks the voice of experience. DR, what was your speciallity? Human parrot impersionations?
oh hello lokesh – ive been playing with my cock – not finished yet though – its plain to see who your master is – you are a clone of ….
well just wait a bit we will see ha ha haha ha ha haha ah….
ah – here it is lokesh – the guru himself with his clones – ha ha ha ha
i didnt realise you were such a dupe – imitating a poor old man and ruining his retirement !!!!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151602710124614&set=a.474739459613.260216.770044613&type=1&theater
Nice pic.
I based the comparison with Tommy Cooper on the, er, ‘ha ha ha ha’ (etc.) phenomenon, Lokesh. Otherwise, I agree that DR simply isn’t funny. But he’d be good material for a caricature….
You remind me of Tommy Cooper (late English eccentric comedian) more and more, DR. You don’t go around wearing the same sort of ‘fez’-type hat as he did, do you?
(Nice little wank there, was it? Naughty little disciple!).
That’s rude DR. There are ladies present. If you persist you will be sent to the sam … err … dog house.
sorry to ask you satyadeva .. but just like in that joke: who’s side are you on? osho sannyasin that have the right and freedom of celebrating their master without beeing exploited or on the side of the oif that is making money out of oshoname closing up pages and sites and youtube accounts that share osho and bann sannyasins that have been 30 years with their master.. ? i think you should learn more about all this and maybe you’ll find out we are on the same side of keeping our master’s legacy alive and FREE!!!
It will be a last thing for me to give someone Osho books, for the reason, if the innocent seeker ends up in the Osho pond(once it was looking like an Ocean), all kind of sharks are there to sharpen their mind skills over that person.
Few are playing gurus, few are anti gurus and their are few subjects of the queen who try their anarchist skills over Osho´s work..
So I really think, blessed are those who don´t go into the traps of Osho books.
Dear Shantam says, ‘ blessed are those who don´t go into the traps of Osho books’
And thus a ninth beatitude has been added to Mathew’s original eight. Next thing you know the Pope will declare him a saint.
shantam prem says:
>> It will be a last thing for me to give someone Osho books, for the reason, if the innocent seeker ends up in the Osho pond (once it was looking like an Ocean), all kind of sharks are there to sharpen their mind skills over that person.
It is the hardest thing to explain to (innocent) seekers that ‘Osho’ is one thing and ‘The Sannyasins’ another totally different thing and people shouldn’t confuse the two. But of course they do. Sannyasins are like the Vatican … which is the last place to go if you want to know about god, and the first place to go if you want to get buggered.
Osho is still an Ocean, you just gotta put your Drop in it.
over the years i have given over 500 OSHO books as gifts
to all those who come to meet me
as i always ask them to read OSHO first
i always gave ” meditation the first and last freedom ” as a gift
to more than 100 or more people who visited me as an introduction
over these years i have inspired thousands towards OSHO
and personally sent hundreds of newcomers to poona…
many have been well known…embassy diplomats…journalists…
film makers…actresses…famous people from all over the world
the strange thing is that many have come back to me with negative feedbacks and attacked me as they had bad experiences in the resort !!
as a result i have always had to defend OSHO
and state that it is the current management who is behaving like this
and clearly not part of OSHO vision
i agree with shantam…as i have also now stopped offering OSHO books to newcomers especially from russia as i have always been receiving so many negative feedbacks after they visit the resort
once they read OSHO books they are hooked and unfortunately
land up going to the resort…and what they discover there is ugly !!
most of the russian girls complain of sexual harassment from sannyasins there and that they are put under peer pressure for sex saying they are too backward or closed or repressed !!!
and OSHO was for sexual freedom as a path towards enlightenment !!!
i have received at least 100 or more direct complaints from russian girls who are confused as to what OSHO views are about sex
and why they are made to feel pressured to offer themselves to sannyasins to release their inhibitions
these girls are forcibly offered wine and alcohol saying they need to loosen up…dance and celebrate at the evening multiversity bar parties
the fish are trapped in murky shark waters…
i hesitate now…and am ashamed that i introduce OSHO to newcomers…
Swami Rajneesh:
most of the russian girls complain of sexual harassment from sannyasins there and that they are put under peer pressure for sex saying they are too backward or closed or repressed !!!
and OSHO was for sexual freedom as a path towards enlightenment !!!
i have received at least 100 or more direct complaints from russian girls who are confused as to what OSHO views are about sex
and why they are made to feel pressured to offer themselves to sannyasins to release their inhibitions
these girls are forcibly offered wine and alcohol saying they need to loosen up…dance and celebrate at the evening multiversity bar parties
the fish are trapped in murky shark waters…
SD:
So what’s new, Swami R?! That sort of thing has always been par for the course all over sannyas, it hasn’t suddenly just started up in the Resort, thanks to the ‘evil’ administration.
Where have you been all your life?! Are you really as “blind and gullible” as you say you (and all other enlightened people) are? Or is this just another cunning ploy, another convenient card to play in your political power game?
As for “and OSHO was for sexual freedom as a path towards enlightenment!!!”, well, perhaps you’d care to elucidate exactly what he did teach about that and explain how it was largely interpreted and very often misused, right from the start, rather than just through any current manifestations of inappropriately expressed lust in contemporary Poona?
i remember osho saying – after i am gone – there may be a place here with my name on it, but it will not be my place
today osho’s name stands dirtied by those who have removed osho from our ashram while claiming to own his name -
he will have to change it again – back to rajneesh !!!
It’s great isn’t it…
all the iconoclasts, proto iconoclasts and stick in the muds come here, when there’s all the world of Washo Sannyas soap Suds Whiter than White available in reality, on line, in the world of centres and communities, squillions of dollars worth of belongers , seekers , etc etc…ritualistically governed by the clones of the clones of 2nd 3rd 4th generation clones.. i’m not just talking the obvious ones here, i’m talking all the self appointed organisers of others people’s interactive psycho emotive social range, the effete legacy holders , the extra deep meditateurs, the one’s who play Dumbal and Pratten records, the basic self deluding belongers who couldn’t organise a warm hearted evening without a huge ideological effete preamble with themselves at the centre under the banner of any Tom Dick or Harry guru waving their self protecting flags around , with the open toed bible basher sandals with socks on, complete with half or fully nuts staring eyes and a code book of deference to them and their divinity…..
Yet they turn up here on SN …..(from that resort arrested water purifying nut two years ago who wrote entries by the gallonfull), to those whom I will never meet or wish to meet, — all looking to become relevant, reliable, merchants of someone else’s story, over which all manner of free speech and behaviour is found HERE because of the style of who and what is said … (care of Parmartha blog censor services too )
Speech which they ,the iconoclasts, would never in a million years be capable of producing associatively or collaboratively because their very intention is to receive assistance for themselves, their cause, their reality, whilst being completely incapable of offering that Speech and that which promotes their inclusion in it.
If you want something as precious as collaborative mutuality, that is not defined a priori by a certain reference code, you have to offer it and make it. If you come here, uncreatively, looking for help whilst benefitting from interactions which wouldn’t see the light of day in any single religious maniacs community from here to timbuktu,without heavy proselytising (see SN history archives, the history of sannyas communities , legacy religions etc for details) then I suggest either you up your game massively or you realise I for one am not reading your posts. (Vartan I read yours but why are you such a damp squib and so dependent on others routines for your imagination.. contribute , and if you must prattle effusively , please go big with it as just the odd line with a rejoinder is a bit fuckin lazy mate..)
I do read my selected names from which I get the drift, but so far those who have spun out against me or are inexperienced in depth or time according to my interests don’t get any real acknowledgment from me… you just don’t get read, (at least not 95% by me. Simples. I’d recommend the same to save yourselves the bother of replying to me.
I’m on here to find myself playing creatively. Even if the contrary ones were really up to their game it would not make any difference to me, as I’m just not involved with you or your lives, and I’m not going to give you anything more than you are giving, which is, zilch. That’s the way its always been on SN, you do your own editing after the eds have done theirs.
Now for the weather.
Cool post, man.
well that wasnt very funny was it martyn – still lokesh liked it and says its “cool”
it seems the jokers of sannyas news are a lot more serious than they are pretending to be –
and did those feet – in ancient time – walk upon englands green and pleasant land – and was the holy lamb of god……oh sorry – time warp no 9 – suddenly i was back at school with all those english kids taking the piss in latin !!!
yeah, cool… though a bit snobbish i would say…
so you want me to be more snobbish… ? Hang on I’ll try and do elitist….
I’m having a bit of trouble with that one , will impersonating a famous person help…I can do Prince Charles or Richard the 3rd..and .my Osho impressions are copied from the moment just after death, and involve lying down with my tongue hanging out….. surrounded by people saving the world. It may not be good enough for repeat performances
hahaha… martyn…
you can be as you like… i’m just tickling you… i would add only one thing to your very wise post… please do read more than 5% of the comments, you’ll find interesting stuff there… not only what you write deserves to be read…
Miss Priya Pineapple heard that her old friend Mrs Hamish Coconut had married for the third time, but she didn’t meet her new bald husband Mr Lokesh Coconut until few months later, when she bumped into the newly weds in a bar in Ibiza
She was horrified to observe that the bald Mr Lokesh Coconut wore an obvious wig, had one glass eye, a wooden leg and a set of false teeth that rattled every time he moved a muscle or tried to smile.
Completely taken aback, she softly whispered into Mrs Hamish Coconut ear: “What came over you, Mrs Coconut, to marry an old battle ax like that ?” “You can speak up, my girl,” said Mrs Hamish Coconut cheerfully, “He’s deaf too.”
martyn chill, you sound like one of those kids that doesnt want to share his toys with the new kids
i get it that you are used to seeing only your ol friends ol pal lokesh and ol frankie fu playing with you but no need to be totalitarian .. except the new kids on the block and start enjoying more the company… have a breath of fresh air…the air was getting old and heavy here.. time for a change 
and dont worry we wont take your toys , we understand and except other kids need a blankie or a teddy bear especially in times of change 
In Sofia in the early 2000′s the state was so bankrupt that nutcases were sent out with white coats, to roam the centre of town…..I had to often cross the road because one guy who was 6ft 6, and wore a white coat three sizes to small for him , bless, had a habit of reaching out his arms to the passing public and giving uncomfotable hugs to everyone…Sometimes one turns down even the best offers of engaging other humans despite genetic confraternity
What was cool in that post, Shri Lokesh?
Seems like presence of Dhyanraj is giving jerks to you guys!
Well, I kind of dig his wee bit.’I do read my selected names from which I get the drift, but so far those who have spun out against me or are inexperienced in depth or time according to my interests don’t get any real acknowledgment from me… you just don’t get read, ‘
I reckon it might not be a bad idea to follow suit. Save me wasting time scanning the dross.
well – ex osho sannyasins martyn and lokesh are having a good idea – close your eyes – it hurts too much to see yourself reflected
happy to jeer at rajneesh arun and osho, and behaving like crybabies when jokes come back on them – boo hoo boo hoo – its those nasty people mommy “inexperienced in depth and time according to my interests”- censor their comments mommy – dont let anyone see !! ha ha ha ha ha
i have another joke about a parrot…
but actually, parrots are a serious topic… you gentlemen, seem intelligent, very, haha… but you’re fearful,a bit unloving… no true intelligence there… i find it very funny to see you “fight” and try to look righteous… if you are the regular commenters stop acting like sannyas news is your forum to gloat and enjoy the sharpness of your minds…
that sharpness is visible, but so much agressiveness, hahaha… i would write all the seven haha’s frank… please, commenting in a less subjective way might help…
i feel that this post creates a climate to fight, because beneath the wisdom and humour in it, there’s a direct dis against swami rajneesh, and that’s just… low… so, are you really writing about humour or are you trying to stir up the air?
then we can all join the battle with our wood swords and jump and attack each other…
or we can take metal swords and play with touchy subjects… dare… talk about osho’s death certificate, talk about amrito’s guidelines, talk about banning of people, talk about sannyasin’s addiction to therapy, talk about abuse of power by therapists, talk about OIF international bank accounts, what the hell, talk about abortion, why not…
but no, you avoid metal swords, touchy subjects…
so… stop getting angry… or emotional… you are making such a fuzz… no, i cannot see the seriousness of it, but i can see it’s important to speak about it, to address it, to think it through…
swami rajneesh is a smoke curtain for sannyasins to avoid seeing the real crimes being commited by Osho’s International Group… rajneesh is not a villain, he’s a rebel, the villains are the sannyas monarchy, self-entitled heirs of osho’s work… (will avoid using the term legacy, too much conflict…)
now, let’s have a laugh… for osho’s sake…
Anand you do your thing, i’ll do mine…and then that means Parmartha can do his… ok
I have no interest in your agenda of villains and rebels…everything and everyone is in the pot, including yours truly…except the editor who is actually expertly moderated himself by an expert team of bush hatted mass debaters from his old Boy Scout hut, on wednesday nights when they play with their dib dib dob dobs and gingangoolies.
dear martyn,
… i’m very happy that you don’t see any villains or rebels, that’s very spiritual of you and you should keep it that way… we unconscious beings will keep dreaming our dreams…
by the way, i have another joke!:
Swami Teertha and Swami Lokesh are sitting on a bench on the beach.
Teertha asks “how long since you have been a sannyasin?
Lokesh says “thirty two years – how about you?”
Teertha says “that’s nothing – i have not been a sannyasin for forty years!”
Lokesh says “One of these days we have to forget Osho and drop being a sannyasin!!”
calm down all you sannyasnews jokers.
its pretty obvious that you`re all just green-eyed jealous of swami rajneesh and DR who are surrounded by sexy chicks like mini and roxanne,who are all about 30 years younger than them.
they are living the dream.
reliable sources inform me that those crusty old love-machines raj and DR are getting it up nearly every night!
they nearly got it up on monday
they nearly got it up on tuesday
they nearly got it up wednesday thursday friday and the week-end….
ha ha ha ha ha – and clever old love machine frank wants some of the non action – ha ha ha ha ha – roxana – roxana !!! – where are you love – frank needs some tlc too !!!
frank:
certainly we are always surrounded by beautiful women…
beauty attracts beauty…it is magnetic !!!
yes…we are living our dream…rather awakening…
and our beautiful angels are living their dream…
so enjoy…join the dance…or be jealous and sulk !!!
re : the old rusty machinery ??
reliable sources directly quoting here :
celibate celebrate…have retired from all that huffing puffing
just for few sperms to reach the crown…
i am a lazy man…too lazy to workout for silly childish pushups…
so you can always send your girlfriend here…she is in safe hands !!!
frank…sorry for teasing you…
i forgot…you do not have a girlfriend yet !!!
frankie we are up every night everyday ~~ our dance gets us higher and higher, instead of beeing jealous you could join us !! we enjoy new playmates !! the more the merrier
How to recognise Osho Enlightenment
(trademark registered)
Long beard, younger women and one Sardar Gurudyal Singh!
Poor me. I was born as Sikh was suppose to have long beard.
but threw away the winning ticket!
shantam…just grow back your beard…that is in your hands…
our girls are young but very compassionate…will help you…
and a sardar gurudayal singh we can manage for you…
enlightened or not enlightened…
we accept and offer you the podium for daily discourse…
we do not take enlightenment seriously
nor are we guarding fort knox to keep it 24 carat pure…
it is innocence…bliss and joy…pure entertainment !!!
and today we see them at the head of a publishing empire of osho’s edited words, earning tens of millions of dollars every year which goes into private bank accounts not the sannyas movement….
Only a drug addict will think in the state of hallucinations that Osho books are generating tens of millions of dollars every year!
I am willing to bet not even one million Dollars per year.
some information for shantam evidence from OIF to the court 2008
“Currently we have 2,537 active publishing contracts in a total of 54 languages around the world.
Each contract represents an Osho book reaching thousands of readers.
Total annual sales are now close to 3 million copies ”
i think 3 million books a year sold will bring in more than your estimate shantam – they sell for ten twenty thirty dollars each
There has been quite an influx of newcomers to SN recently. Most of them cone across as pretty normal people, or perhaps to call them shadow people might be more accurate. I call them shadows because they are not very substantial. Most have very little to contribute other than when they are on the offensive. They just love to have an imaginary enemy to battle. The more they fight and defend lost causes and their gods the more real they imagine themselves to be. All their altruistic ideas go right out the window as soon as their epidermal venner of spirituality receives the slightest of scratches. Quite remarkable what a can of worms is lurking in the shadow peoples’ lives. Just how TV programmers know that negative images feed the masses neurotic addiction to feeding the mind with negative input, I recognize how the shadow people on SN only really get going when they home in on something said by one of the perceived enemy that they imagine to be negative. In general there is no real logic to it. If there is it is this. All that is required is some seemingly provacative comment that somehow tarnishes an image of something or someone who they deem to be holy and thus one of the shadow tribe’s sacred taboos has been broken. It is a very mechanical process to behold.
So come on shadows, how about one of your tribe coming up with a thread that speaks about something other than being on the offensive? Something original, interesting, stimulating, humourous or, lord forbid, inspirational. Somehow I doubt that any of the shadows will rise to the occasion, too preoccupied dancing to the hypnotic beat of the war drums, or trying to keep up with the rest of the frenzied tribe as they storm down the warpath to fight a non-existant foe on a dream battlefield.
Well, they seem fairly young, relatively inexperienced ‘in the field’ and, as Swami Rajneesh describes enlightened people, somewhat “blind and gullible”.
Still, we’ve all been there….
Yes, SD, we have. I wouldn’t say that any of it holds much shock value for me, these people aren’t exactly up there with Assad and the poison gas gang. Nonetheless perhaps some would have been candidates for Sheela and the poison salad brigade.
” the invasion of the shadow people” oh no !!!! they are breaking down the doors dear we are doomed!!!! doomed i tell ye doomed !!!
ha ha ha ha ha – keep taking the coconuts – it will soon be cleared – how much more can be up there ?
Lokesh, You sound like the great intellectual of mind bomb in making lengthy sentences with serious heavy words : Shadows, Lurking, Negative, Neurotic, Imaginary, Tarnish, Worms, Taboo,
Wow, a real intellectual with a Phd in offering articles
that create the impression of having great indepth of writing skills.
And you say you don’t comment on Shadow creatures,
but they all seem to be Lurking in your words,
You sound like a Negative and Neurotic person
trying to Tarnish the newcomers in sannyas news
Remove these Worms and Taboos from your mind bomb !
Either the 12 coconuts are not working or too much Hash has permanently destroyed your brain cells.
If Coconuts don’t work we are willing to get back to Pineapples !
So make your choice clear !
P.S. You can also pretend to have not read this shadowy message
and avoid by save yourself from answering. Pineapples ??
lokesh you are talkin in this thread about non seriousness and now you give such a serious comment… lila lila life is just a play ahahahah ha ha ha
for me it seems like youre taking your “job”too seriously here on sannyas news, did someone call you the chief here and we didnt know? i thought we all had freedom of speech regardless of the ability of everyones level of speech (which i didnt know it could be measured..and by whom?!) i think it is good and fun that all kind of people come, open up and share themselves, i am not here to judge, i observe, play….
New startling evidence found for famous revolutionary’s last will and testament, last moment ,final dream legacy affidavit, complete with certificate from doctor , in historical evidence from last century.
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Who dunnit ? Was it a natural death , or even a plot by anti revolutionary nefarious forces or even elements of a state poisoning plot ? Will we ever know……To the barricades comrades .. to the barricades…..(www.bathtimebarricadesandassasinations.org )
Funniest I’ve seen here in quite a while…As the actress said to the bishop, “Keep it up!”
ye will be doomed i tell ye – doomed !!!!!
ha ha haha ha ha – osho’s rebels !! ha ha ha ha
no wonder osho told us he had learnt to be betrayed by everyone
cowards will betray their own master
sannyasins – dont look – dont speak – dont say !!
keep quiet – they’ll hear you !!! ha ha ha ah –
sad really isnt it – no one has the courage to stand for their master
“Keeping his words 100% carat gold .” (or how you say it?)…for what? what a methaphore..I do not use jewellery…but i am a simple stupid woman..
And Buddha’s last words were “ be light into your self”.. I mean really…
Fresch..it was…. ‘be alight unto yourself ‘ .. ( he was addressing zealot sati pyromaniacs, with a box of matches and an oily rag.. )
Osho corrected Buddha’s statement with, “be a joke unto yourself” … I mean really … (google it)
thats right vartan – “be a joke unto thyself” – ha ha ha ha – rather than “make a joke out of others” as the ex sannyasins who post here think they heard him say
I know where they are coming from. You don’t! Being an ex-sannyasin is a bit like being and ex-homosexual … it sort-of doesn’t work. And anyway you have a new convert from your proselytizing on the forum in one week. It’s more than they managed the last four years … hallelujah. You better look after Shantam or I am going to send the heavies in. We know where you live.
A few words of wisdom….
“Arguing on the internet is like running at the special olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.”
“Arguing on the internet in general is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is always going to knock over all the pieces, take a shit on the board, and then strut around like it’s victorious.”
Cheers!
It’s a known fact that when there is great terminal suffering with no known end in sight many many people turn to their blogmeisters and say..
…is there any last chance some people could be put out of our misery by injecting some extra strength moderation into the painful proceedings…
Ps Parmartha are you saying that those words in Isaiah were Methusela’s last words, ….are you really THAT old…. were you there to witness this in person ? Have you become a Jehovah’s Wittoser now ? If I tried to borrow a fiver off you at the pub , would it be considered the same as getting blood out of a stone and sacrilegious ? When you beat two menacing opinions into a froth ,with zest, on a street corner does it become a Lemon Harangue ?
Bringing in the sheaves, bringing in the sheaves, we will come rejoicing, bringing in …..
Roxana, ‘why you get so upset that people have different opinions’. That is exactly the question that might shed some light on your own mechanics if you dared to ask it of yourself.
i have no mechanics lokesh !!! i am not a robot … i accept what everybody says and then react..am not enlightened yet…so i still react like an ordinary human beeing..am not cunning to think and rethink…i am sure one can dissect anything and find faults everywhere…just get my message not my grammar
It’s not necessarily “cunning” to use one’s mind, it’s a wonderful instrument. The point is to be its master, rather than let it master us.
Sannyasins tend to be almost totally driven by their emotions, often to the detriment of their reason.
yes therapriest..i see you know perfectly how to use your mind, it’s about your heart that im not so sure you know how to use..
Another sannyasin cliche, often used in similar circumstances to “you’re too serious, man”. Glibly trotted out when otherwise stuck for any sort of adequate response, in the hope that the other is reduced to the same emotional level as oneself. In short, an attempt at emotional coercion, which unfortunately degenerates to a sort of ‘emotional fascism’ in certain circles.
And another one, all set for everyday sannyasin abuse: “therapriest”. Who cares whether it’s actually appropriate, it sounds good, innit?
Did you read Parmartha’s note here about this? Or are you so caught up in self-importance these days that you’ve abandoned all practical common sense?
I had the idea that to be ‘ Enlightened’ was something to do with maturity.
Where the hell does his passive aggressive, which is what it is, stirring the shit fit into maturity.
(what is missing is the laughter, the audience were literally ROFL-ing)
Every day Neelam brings news to me that somebody is creating trouble, walking naked in the ashram because he thinks he has become enlightened. But just walking naked has nothing to do with enlightenment.
One woman was declaring herself a master and one man declaring his enlightenment – and both are cuckoos. So I told Neelam, ”It is better to put both the cuckoos together.” The woman has been declaring herself for almost fifteen years. I said, ”Neelam, tell the woman that if she is really a master and enlightened, take care of this fellow. He is very new, needs care.” And that fellow is a much bigger cuckoo.
The woman was cured. She said, ”I am no more … he is too much. I take my words back that I am enlightened or I am a master… If this man has to be taken care of, I refuse. I will be simple from now onwards.” And for three, four days she has proved simple. The greater cuckoo managed to make the smaller cuckoo silent. Now Neelam was asking me what to do with the remaining cuckoo. I said, ”Simply wait, somebody will be coming who is bigger. Give this one into his charge and tell him, ‘Here is your first disciple.’ There is no other way.”
And then Anando told the enlightened man that, ”You either be silent and stop disturbing other people or you will be given to a greater cuckoo.” For at least one and a half days he has been behaving silently, just being afraid, because here there are so many potential cuckoos! I have even told Neelam to make a special office and department where cuckoos meet and discuss their enlightenment.
“This, This, A Thousand Times This: The Very
Essence of Zen”
all banned today in the enforcement resort – when osho ashram existed all kinds of nuts were tolerated as long as they werent harming others – now to sing an osho song is enough to get you thrown out –
osho we love your love we love your song – and amrito the enforcer shows up – get lost you marble kissing osho worshipper – no osho here!!
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
nice self reflection again old man!
Thanks, old boy, you’re really too kind!
i have no mechanics lokesh !!!
You might be fooling yourself with that absurd statement, but I doubt anyone else will be taken in by it..
Few one liners. Not from Lao Tzu or Paulo Coelho!
When two stubborn bulls are fighting, best is to enjoy the game till one leaves the arena!
Sometime diagnose is right but does not mean remedial measure is also to the point.
There are people in the world who think their beloved asshole is not asshole but a cunt!
Life quite often is a game of perceptions, and problem comes when we try to convince others; the perceptions as truth.
I reckon we ought to set up a religious foundation for arguing over the best impressions, then one for achieving self realisation through medical certificates of people who have died in someone else’s presence in another time and another place, another one for achieving revolutionary consciousness through being banned ….or even deleted from facebook, one for ascending nirvana on a bicycle in Nepal, one for retiring gently into bliss whilst avoiding the salad bar, another one for increasing the ability to analyse the human condition, by telling everyone how much you love your master, but not mine,
i never knew there were so many paths to entitlement…
and we could set up a psycho clinic for those who think that osho was a sociologist first and foremost, and needs his head examined by wise old sigmund farty
Rajneesh, I keep your invitation as stand by.
God willing, I will visit you and your commune in the coming months.
Shanti, makes sure you take medical insurance with you.
wise advise – rajneeshs hospital visit in mexico landed him a huge bill as his insurance was expired
But he can just click his fingers and money rushes to him, doesn’t it?
So he hardly gets the sympathy vote for that irresponsible oversight.
Satya Deva,
I hope you understand one thing. People around Rajneesh are happy and having good time.
Well, the mediocre attracts its like, Shantam.
I expect you’ll ‘get your leg over’ too – but not sure about intelligent conversation….
Disciple: Oh wise and all knowing one, take me to the realm of perfect peace.
Master: If I take you to that realm, it will no longer be peaceful.
I’m often surprised at what people’s idea of a good time is.
i guess i’m falling into the ghost people category here with my comment…which doesn’t harm me at all, on the contrary it might give a certain flavor to what i’m gonna post. so a comment from a ghost lady.
yes, satyadeva… for you
all sannyasins deserve to know the truth, the facts, and to see the real picture of what world of osho looks like now. suppose i’m new young and trusting sannyasin – i know it’s far too difficult to imagine for you now but still try. so, i’m totally attracted to osho, to his words, to what he was creating around himself but obviously i don’t have an opportunity to meet him – i wasn’t there 30 (or 32 as this figure is more familiar to people here) years ago. then what should i do ? whom should i search for ? where should i go today ? and of course, since i’m ignorant of anything that’s going on in the ashram and with the ones who run it, i’ll go there and face stagnating rotten water that used to be beautifully and freely flowing. at least that’s how i imagined it and that’s what i was expecting to find. so there is no “water” – only dirty money making machine that is run by two cowards – amrito and jayesh – who never show their faces when openly challenged. so wouldn’t i be very disappointed to see that there is nothing left of osho’s fragrance in the place that used to be his and his friends’ home ? wouldn’t i be tremendously sad to know that osho’s dream is nobody’s dream nowadays ? just see from this point of view. and i’m not alone – there are thousands of young people who are thirsty and open to the search…who are ready to find a way in…just like you were, lokesh…i know you are struggling to find the way out but it seems pointless ’cause if you found the way in then it must be the same way out, ah ?
Shivani, I understand your heartfelt position but it is also important for you to understand your position. The whole philosophy of Osho is an attempt to maneuver your mind and put it in lockstep with reality …
In reality:
1. You will never know how Osho died.
2. Knowing how Osho died will not change your position one iota.
3. If the Resort was perfect, you would be their bitch, and there will be nothing for you to do.
4. Jayesh was a late-comer, knew absolutely nothing, Osho pulled him nice and close and handed him the reins … what did you expect?
5. To say that Osho’s dream is nobody’s dream nowdays … you must be looking inside your own head, because once Osho’s dream lodges inside your head then you will realise that … you are Osho’s dream.
6. You say that you are a young and trusting sannyasin. You left the word ‘innocent’ out. Innocence accepts.
7. To accept that the here-now is exactly as it should be, is probably the hardest undertaking, but until you reach “that position” you will not be able to move forward but remain frozen in your current position.
8. Young sannyasins have absolutely no idea how easy they have it … at least they don’t have Osho mucking it up for them. Think about that!
9. Sannyas in the 21st century is, freedom from the known. And you have that in buckets.
10. How do you make sannyasins inwardly laugh?
vartan -”how do you make sannyasins inwardly laugh ?”
tell them “Young sannyasins have absolutely no idea how easy they have it … at least they don’t have Osho mucking it up for them” !! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
DR, you have found a new living mini master so you don;t get none of the new found freedom, you do not pass GO, and you do not get £200.
What should I say…..
Photo speaks volumes about Indian Mind.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=274139762655142&set=a.274139745988477.59366.100001773605963&type=1&theater
Satya Deva is becoming quite an militant.
Hay dear one, if you have found a mother figure in Meera, other people have also got the right to find their father figure in Rajneesh.
Some where we are all wounded hearts looking for some completion..
This is the game of life.
Who’s saying they have no right? They have every right, but it helps to know where one is coming from.
Btw, before you ‘damn Mother Meera with faint praise’, I strongly suggest you actually find out about who she is and what she offers, by paying her a visit. Especially as you’re not far from her base. You don’t know what you’re missing, Shantam.
oh i see – these ex sannyasins of osho who regularly post here are all fightng for punjaji or mother meera – and they are outraged when i speak up to support osho and rajneesh –
that how can someone who still loves osho have a space here in sannyas news when we all left osho long ago and found other gurus,
and osho should be endlessly criticised in a vain attempt to get rid of him
yes am also amazed how they all go against people that worship a guru and still here they are on sannyas news exposing theyr stinky boring opinions that anyways make no sense because they try to hard to be funny…. really if you are over osho and against this “guru thing”just go mind your own bussiness, enjoy spending your money and fighting with your wife… what’s there more for you? leave the master swith us..open a forum for all these old retired sannyasins that lost theyr balls in the cold war
Roxana you don’t need to try to be funny…you are one of the best unconscious comedians around here.
I’d appreciate to read what your definition of an ex-sannyasin is. Bound to be amusing. Just give that big key embedded in the centre of your back a few quick turns and you’ll be able to keep marching down the path of self-righteousness for another ten minutes. brrrrrrrr….. Ah, the sweet whirr of a wind-up crusader.
Leave the master with us! Brilliant!
Dhyan Raj:
oh i see – these ex sannyasins of osho who regularly post here are all fightng for punjaji or mother meera
SD:
Really? Methinks you exaggerate again, DR…Tranquillisers required for you, old boy!
Btw, don’t you have another website for broadcasting your propaganda? Why insist on cluttering this one with your tedious ha ha ha ha ha ha ha bullshine?
swami satyam dhyanraj says:
>> and they are outraged when i speak up to support osho
It being a sannyasin forum, the support for Osho is taken for granted and not needed to be mentioned. We like the gritty stuff and is what keeps it interesting. We can get all the fluff everywhere else.
Satya Deva-
Btw, before you ‘damn Mother Meera with faint praise’, I strongly suggest you actually find out about who she is and what she offers, by paying her a visit. Especially as you’re not far from her base. You don’t know what you’re missing, Shantam.
I know my dear friend, what I am missing.
New Wife
No idea, should I finally go for the home cooked curry or there is still some Karma left with the Western women!
AlokJohn says on 21 May, 2013 at 4:09 pm
// Re : musicians and some therapists being banned (if this is true!)
IMHO….. The place is for spiritual growth alone. My guess is some of the above were more interested in their careers, and there came a point when the management could see this, and thus “banned them.” //
Found a Real Joke from another Joker !
Now this is a very serious joke, so better start laughing or you will get banned.
A new messager for Musicians from the Resort !
OIF have finally found their logical spokesman in AlokJohn.
Welcome him to the circle of the 3 idiots as we need more of AlokJohn Jokes on this page. He is the cherry on the cake, and easily beats Lokesh, Marty and Chief joker Franky.
Even SatyaDeva has to find some logical answer to top this joke.
Now beat that SatyaDeva, you have real stiff competition !!
I highly recommend this message as the next topic of discussion on SannyasNews. AlokJohn comes to their rescue !
today satyadeva responds 22 May, 2013 at 1:56 pm
// You seem to have missed the actual reason though, mini, so I suggest you read more carefully and then apologise to Alok John (who happens to have an exceptional intellect, btw).//
Yes SatyaDeva, For once I finally agree with you here !
After reading carefully, I offer apologies to the exceptional intellect capacity of AlokJohn. His rational and reasoning intellect is really exceptional.
satyadeva says :
alok john has an exceptional intellect !!
amazing how his genius is so bright and brilliant…a real intellectual…
says that musicians are banned
because they are trying to use the resort to advance their careers
prem joshua or miten premal are already famous
with mass following and cds and music in the world market
perhaps 150 visitors come to the enforcement resort…
such a vast audience for musicians to advance their careers…
and satyadeva also clarifies and elaborates with emphasis !!
“ the place is for spiritual growth alone “
ah ha…ah ha…finally some clarity here…
booze…abuse…sexual harassment…exploitation…
perfect place for spiritual growth only !
hail the daniel satyadeva has come to judgment…
now mini kang…please bow down and recognize alok johns intellect…
and publicly apologise here on sannyasnews…
Swami Rajneesh:
and satyadeva also clarifies and elaborates with emphasis !!
“ the place is for spiritual growth alone “
ah ha…ah ha…finally some clarity here…
booze…abuse…sexual harassment…exploitation…
perfect place for spiritual growth only !
hail the daniel satyadeva has come to judgment…
now mini kang…please bow down and recognize alok johns intellect…
and publicly apologise here on sannyasnews…
SD:
I suggest you take far more care with your reading, Swami R, as these are Alok’s words you quote, not mine. What I actually indicated was that, as a highly intelligent man, Alok’s views should not be automatically rejected without due consideration.
So I also suggest you yourself apologise for your careless error, together with the misplaced sarcasm of your above last three lines.
As I’ve pointed out to you before, “sexual harrassment” has not ‘suddenly’ descended upon the Poona Resort under its present management, but was a common enough feature of Osho’s own ashram, where women were regularly importuned with lust-driven lines like “If you don’t say yes, you’re blocked, Ma”, “It doesn’t matter how you feel, you’ll be much better after we’ve fucked”, “If you won’t fuck me then you can’t be a proper sannyasin”, and so on and on…Often emanating from those living right near Osho in the ashram, of course.
Your silence on this up to now speaks volumes, Swami R, indicating that you might well be as “blind and gullible” as you profess yourself to be – in this area anyway. Unless it’s just sort of ‘convenient’ for your ‘revolutionary agenda’ to overlook this and pretend it’s all begun since ‘The Devilish Duo’ took over?
As for “booze”, well, what about the hard-drinking, hard-dancing Zorba the Buddha, so much a sannyasin icon after Osho praised Kazantzakis’s fictional hero? Or are you recommending your followers be teetotal as well?
Are you absolutely sure you and Osho are “one”? This evidence suggests perhaps not….
well maybe if you would stop your rubbish against osho and his disciples he would also stop with his comments..we are only reacting at the shit you keep commenting since a long time now against osho and his disciples ! its as easy as that lokesh !! you dont like the mention of osho name or osho disciples go find a video chat somewhere or a forum for scottish jokes n thats it !! there you have it piss of mind for you
There is one Farrah Abrahham. She has worked in a TV reality show and has made her sex tape public. Within 24 hours of release, 2 Million people have registered at Vivid entertainment for the pay per view. How I got to know all this from?
From Hindi News web site dainik Bhaskar; One of India´s largest selling Hindi daily. Other than news and stupid pride in Hindu moral ethics, most of the Hindi news websites show the maximum skin; naturally white skin; brown skin for such bigots is as holy as white cow.
For weeks they are publishing excerpts from Sheela´s book with photos from Pune One group.
And their headlines, ” हर संन्यासी महीने में 90 बार करता था सेक्स, ओशो की पीए ने खोले कई राज” every sannyasin was doing sex 90 times in a month, Osho´s PA opens the secret Beans”
Other headline एक दिन में तीन से सेक्स करते थे ओशो, अपनी अंग्रेज अटेंडेट को कर दिया था प्रेग्नेंट! In One day, Osho was doing sex with three, Made his English attendant pregnant”
I think not much has changed in the mind set of Hindi cow belt, other than the newspapers. In 1984, Another Hindi paper, Panjab Kesari was running front page story on their Sunday edition with the title, ” God that failed”, I was young disciple, known people used to say, “Why you went in the trap of such guru?”
It was and still I am very interested in the operating soft ware of the collective mind; thanks to Osho..it is fun to watch how our individual and collective mind functions.
I can laugh over the yellow journalism of Dainik Bhaskar(The Sun), yet they have gone beyond the limits of decency, therefore it feels like condemning their owner and editorial board.
Sannyas News is really getting very very interesting these days !
We have Lokesh, Punjaji disciple, and now SatyaDeva, Mother Meera disciple.
Just out of some respect for SatyaDeva wishes and to apologise I actually went to Mother Meera’s website.
Amazing, I love Mother Meera’s Mustache !!! Now all she needs is to grow a Beard and we will declare her Enlightened Avatar !!
Some Excerpt from her Website :
Mother Meera is an embodiment of the Divine Feminine, the Divine Mother on earth. Mother was born in 1960, in the state of Andhra Pradesh, southern India. Today, she lives in a tiny hamlet in the German countryside.….
Mother came to prepare and cleanse world consciousness
and make it ready for transformation to a higher level of evolution.
To ensure this development
She calls down the Light of the Supreme consciousness.
In her work of Darshan she “ prepares humanity “
to become open to the Light, so that the Divine Life and Will can become manifested on earth.
She is simply a Divine Mother for everyone who turns to Her.
Everyone can pray to whichever form of the Divine, or Avatar, that inspires their faith.
Prayers should come from one’s soul and heart and all sincere prayers to the Divine reach to Her as well — this is her affirmation to us.
The soul’s sincere cry is heard and answered; all pure inner openings to God are also openings to Her and Her Light.
She is the Mother of us all, and we may all live in peace in the light of her all-encompassing love.
The notion of God as Mother may be unusual in the West, but in the East it is an age-old way to regard and relate to the Divine – especially in India, where God is conceived as being both with and without form.
God is known as both transcendent and immanent, being above and beyond everything but also radically free to manifest eternally within all the myriad forms of the whole of Creation.
One of the sweetest and nearest forms that God assumes to reach out to us is that of the Holy Mother, of whom Mother Meera is a living embodiment.
The Divine Mother represents the dynamic aspect of the Godhead, transmitting God’s Will, Mercy and Grace.
She manifests not only as the ideal feminine aspect of the Divine with whom we can connect through worship, prayer and meditation, but also and most astoundingly as fully human beings,
living women among us who are visitations of the Divine.
The descent of a deity to the earth in an incarnate form is known as an ‘Avatar’. (Sanskrit: lit. ‘coming down’, ‘descent’)
Mother Meera does not conform to the conventional model of a Guru surrounded by disciples.
She is the ultimate Mother, always ready for anyone needing her help or blessing, entirely loving, caring and non-judgmental. She gives no formal teaching or complex spiritual disciplines and she makes no demands.
As a living embodiment of the Divine Mother she can transform any aspirant simply by a look…
Through her own Divine radiance she bestows a Light that helps and guides us
Correction, mini kang, I am not “a disciple” of Mother Meera, ok?
Sorry, SatyaDeva, just recommending Osho disciples to move towards Mother Meera and pointing to her website.
To be a disciple also needs some courage.
Ok, you are only pointing the way to Mother Meera then.
I suggested to Shantam that as he lives in Germany, not too far from where MM lives, then he might do himself a favour by visiting her.
The point is she makes herself available to anyone, from whatever religion, creed or path. No need to be or pretend to be a “disciple” or anything else. All kinds of people go, not so many sannyasins though (mavbe because there’s no particular ‘glamour’ or ‘excitement’ on offer – or perhaps because they think they already ‘know it all’?).
And all is in silence – cool and most refreshing, frankly. She’s helped me a lot, which is why I recommend her.
mini kang says:
>> To be a disciple also needs some courage.
To be a disciple of MM would take a lot of courage. Just to kill the boredom. Many of these eastern ideas don’t translate very well in the west. What’s on offer? I can sit in silence anywhere. I am actually silent right now. Does typing count as talking?
You misunderstand, Vartan, MM’s public meetings are in silence, lasting for 2 to 3 hours, where everyone in turn sits in front of her as she touches your head and then looks into your eyes.
Now that wouldn’t be too much for you, would it?
Unless you already ‘know it all’….
what are you satyadeva if not a disciple ?
- mother meera’s friend ?
No need to be so abrupt, DR, as if you know all there is to know about Indian masters.
See my reply to mini kang.
You forgot to mention yourself—Mini King, disciple of Mickey Mouse.
wow – parmartha – did you do that? alter my comment from playing with your photo to playing with my cock ? ha ha ha ha ha haha – some dirty tricks going on here eh ?? i dont believe you would do that
Lokesh,
Dhyanraj may sound screwed up on some level, but he is a maestro in the visual arts, above photo of Poonjaji´s clones is worth an art work, which tickles laughter.