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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
Arpana — being an arm’s length type of guy, I was always resistant to attachment (probably because I feared losing it if I gained it). So I was something of a lone wolf sannyasin, an ‘outsider’. Yes, I lived in Osho communal houses for two years, worked at the Ranch, went to Poona II, sat [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
That is an entirely believable story, although as always, context is everything, and context is what is usually missing from the memory of distant events. The period of Osho’s life that especially interests me is that earlier phase, such as his college years and early years of teaching. Osho’s post-Bombay years are well documented, perhaps [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
JC, I think that deep trust in a guru is an immensely powerful protection, but I’ve come to conclude that the power is arising entirely from the disciple’s belief. We could have been wearing a mala with a photo of Alfred E. Nuemann, and it would been as potent if the belief and trust in [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
There is a view out there among some ‘authorities’ in the field of human transformation that Osho was largely an unrepentant guru, not much more. The idea is that he would retroactively apply meaning and interpretation to events, to as to get them to conform to a teaching. I see this as a tendency among [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
Prem, that’s an old practice in India. When I was with Osho in Nepal in ’86, I got stopped by a yogi somewhere in Nepal, who offered to lift up a 100 hundred pound stone with his dick as some sort of ‘tantric tourist entertainment’, in exchange for 100 Rupees. I declined his gracious offer. [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
An excellent shot of the Datsun B510 — also known as, ‘the poor man’s BMW’:
http://home.sprintmail.com/~cathbrown/doug/510.html
And here, Osho himself talking about the Rolls Royce:
http://www.oshoworld.com/biography/innercontent.asp?FileName=biography8/08-20-rolls.txt
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
There are so many things that only become more clear with expanded perspective, which means distance. Things we can’t recognize when too close to them, become clear with some distance. A good example is Osho’s tendency to rarely blink. The standard way this was viewed by the average sannyasin was that this was the ‘sign [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
What about the photo of himself in the locket, Alok? I always found that to be quite absurd also, outrageous even. But it was clearly a powerful device. I think the cars operated in a similar fashion, although these ‘devices’ were working on different parts of our conditioning. There is another argument that was advanced [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
Frank, good observations. I’d linked up some of Nietzsche’s ideas with Osho’s in my own book, but there are grounds for much more study in that whole area. Rajneeshpuram was a fascinating example of an attempt to give birth to an anti-ascetic spirituality that ended up a kind of failed genetic mutation. Good idea, bad [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post A Rolls Royce for every day of the year – Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
On the matter of the cars, I think that Gurdjieff’s influence on Osho was apparent. First, there was Gurdjieff’s love of motor cars (he initially drove a 1923 Citroen, until he crashed it into a tree. He had a second serious accident in Paris when he was an old man). He drove aggressively and recklessly, [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
The whole idea of ‘spiritual reality’ is that separation is ultimately an illusion. There is only the totality, or the ‘One’, as Plotinus called it. Therefore, things like ‘mind-reading’ or ‘astral travel’ are no big stretch. Consider it — if separation is ultimately an illusion, then 1. Possible travel anywhere is not just possible, but [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
Appreciate your response. Just to clarify, by ‘interpretation’ I’m not referring to figuring something out with discursive reasoning, etc. I was referring to perspective. In my own case, after my Eckankar friend gave me a mysterious energy boost, I spent three straight months working intensively on cultivating the out-of-body state. (This was 30…[Read more]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
It’s possible that the people who were ‘expecting nothing’ may indeed have been expecting something, but not consciously. An example would be someone raised in a family with religious conditioning. When you’re taught from an early age that Jesus went up to the sky in his new body, that God knows everything and that a [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
ps — ‘spectre’ (English spelling), ‘specter’ (American spelling — being Canadian, I usually use American because I’m a typical Americanized great white northerner whose sole cultural attachment is hockey. And Captain Kirk was Canadian).
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
For the record Lokesh, I don’t doubt your experience. I’m curious more about your interpretation of it. And I say that because my own background is full of altered states of consciousness experiences (in fact, I ‘began’ on the spiritual path via learning out-of-body techniques via an Eckankar initiate, and studying Robert Monroe’s work). Was [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
The value of any history that can’t be confirmed by a time machine is in myth, allegory. My point was about the allegorical message, not the historical. I don’t care whether Jesus really existed or not. Here, have a toke. Speaking of history, I understand someone somewhere made a marble statue of Osho? Seems he’s [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
This all pretty much boils down to angle of perception. If you go into a situation with a certain expectation (like a close encounter with a great guru) then your mind will manufacture an experience that fits the expectation. Drugs will simply enhance the show. There was a great old Star Trek episode, called “Specter [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Out of the Body with Osho 12 years, 7 months ago
An interesting story, Lokesh. One common sense question that occurs is how you could smell the balm if his physical body was not there. Astral balm? Perhaps sensing his presence energetically, triggered associations of that presence in the brain, hence the smell. There is a teaching from the Samkhya tradition that refers to three [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post Beyond Marx and Religion ? 12 years, 7 months ago
There was a tight organization around Osho. The robes, the malas, the Sanskrit names, one’s level of “surrender”, all constituted the elements of membership in the organization. Where there is organization, there is hierarchy, and where there is hierarchy, there will be the application of power. And where there is the application of power, there [...]
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P.T. Mistlberger commented on the blog post The Growth Groups 12 years, 8 months ago
Lokesh, according to Andrew Cohen, Papaji once said that Neem Karoli was mad, and another time “praised him as the highest of the high”. So who knows. Really good recent video here of Ram Dass talking about Neem Karoli: http://magazine.enlightennext.org/2011/03/14/spiritual-masters-lama-surya-das-on-neem-karoli-baba/ He mentions the LSD story…[Read more]
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