A Deleted Osho Joke

The recent new Osho International Editors of “The Book of Wisdom” deleted quite a lot of the original text of this book from the seventies. They obviously dont like Osho jokes that much…
Here is one festive joke they left out! Now who will comment as to why? !

Beloved Osho,

What is the secret of your finding the right name for each of your thousands of sannyasins?

“To tell you the truth, there is no secret at all. Meditate on this story:

There were three wise men following a star, bearing gifts to take to their lord. They traveled much and came to rest at a stable, as the star they were following was directly above it. They got down from their donkeys and the first went into the stable and laid his gift at the foot of the manger. The second followed, laying his gift at the foot of the manger also.

It happened that the third was much taller than the first two, and as he entered the stable he hit his head on the beam. In great pain he shouted, “Jesus Christ!”

At which, Mary looked up at him, smiling, and said, “Oh, what a beautiful name! I was going to call him Fred.”

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97 Responses to A Deleted Osho Joke

  1. prem bubbie says:

    This should give a sensible person an inkling as to avoid all sannyas organizations… this new “crew” of retards has sterilized, homogenized, and vaporized Osho’s main focus… take yourselves lightly, be playful, crack jokes- no matter how obscene or obscure; enjoy life. What we have here now, are a bunch of idiotic, uptight, super-serious dimmed witted, psychotic, puritanical moralists, who haven’t the faintest clue who osho was…. I can imagine just after buddha’s death or christ’s death, the assumptions those ding- dong disciples of theirs had, what their master intended, what their lectures meant, how to disseminate the masters’ energy…. fast forward to the present and recent past… those idiots back then must have waited to be reincarnation to the present so they could continue their buffoonery. I’ve had enough of this reincarnation shit… time to tell the Big Boss upstairs to play another game or change the rules at least… this game is so worn out.

  2. Chinmaya says:

    People are serious and they do not like jokes.
    Otherwise, Osho is the only and only One Enlightened Master in the Universe, who could bless us to laugh to full of our belly, none else………Sannyasins can buy old print of The Book of Wisdom……

  3. shantam says:

    Not just jokes, they have taken every powerful punch away.
    Osho is a Poisonless Cobra around the neck of a snake charmer. Good for collecting coins.

  4. prem martyn says:

    i vote we elect a new inner 21 from the bloggers of sannyasnews…

    and allocate differing roles to each contributor :

    swami Defective to be chief osho reader in Buddha hall in an ongoing public reading of all osho’s discourses…thereby encouraging the flight of disciples ..from the unknown to the never ending…and a build up of large queues not wanting to go anywhere near the location …
    (currently swami sherlock is writing the 98 volume sequel to the Book of Wisdom called the Hound of the Basket Case. A 208 page guide to whodunnit and why is supplied in case you cant figure out what the story is about.

    the editors of sunrise news to be given a security clearance to produce the film of book of the fim of the book of wisdom.. allowing censorship of the naughty bits…in case of offence..renaming it the Book of So(pori)fia

    Shanta Claus to be given the chief role of providing nourishment and succour to new young ma’s…including his guidebook on Osho ‘ Tasting the Divine’ .
    an authoritative guide to vulgarity and profanity coupled with instructions on eating meat without swallowing.

    Alok to hold regular meditative evenings including Discipline Surrender and First Class Honours. S and M ..freedom from bondage (sundays and mondays ) available by appointment.

    Lokesh to provide evening taster events for those unfamiliar with an egoless state.. including readings from his latest steamy bestseller.. ‘ My Life in Oxide’ ..hazy recollections leaving you breathless……

    Shahriar to offer guidance on different egoless and clueless states.. including the one he lives in… apparently called ‘Michigan’.

    Parmartha to offer advice on setting up a moderate amount of public information in a fairly open forum with rather a lot of well wishing in a not too outlandish fashion entitled by forum headline debates which no-one pays the slightest attention to.

    Bubbie to provide pure clean water thats at least 40 per cent proof, and would blow the socks off any amoeba foolish enough to enter his digestive system.

    Anugrah to occassionally make sense of it all.Responsible for collecting ‘aha’ moments around the ashram grounds into anugrahahahaha collection of divine sayings after meeting anyone he agrees with.

    Anyone else with a vaguely Indian form of english syntax to be responsible for banning every one else who is not making the respectfulness of the rude remarks in osho speaking please.

    Finally all nameless people are to be issued with an order enforcing other nameless people to authorise their sannyas naming in a shameless nameless renaming ceremony.

  5. prem martyn says:

    yours truly , me , to be told ‘to watch it, matey ‘ ….or else !! by the rest of the 21.. who casually happen to bump into him in an alley-way after dark…

  6. Alok john says:

    I speculate : most people on the planet are semi-literate and cannot manage a long book. So OIF makes a short version of the book of wisdom by removing, amongst other passages, some jokes.

  7. shantam says:

    What a logic, Alok John.

    If one can use comon sense and a sense of justice to the dead master, it is noharm to publish full discourses with Osho on the cover through the inhouse publishing company, Rebel Publications and publish excerpts through the market based publishers.

    And please read your paragraph again.. As long as sannyasins are full with this idea that planet is full with semi literate people Sannyasins and their organisations will end up always in the dustbin of the society.
    Nobody cares about such ego centric people who are not even good for nothing…

  8. Lokesh says:

    Don’t waste your time with boring Osho books. Read the real thing.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Borderline-Dreamtime-Luke-Mitchell/dp/1907294937

  9. shantam says:

    Basically, vatican should reward the family chain of top Osho brass. With them on the main seat, Church does not need to make a counter porpaganda. Inhouse machine to Shrink Osho is working round the clock from 17, Koregaon Park, Pune.

  10. amrito says:

    It’s not only the jokes that were deleted, but several insightful questions and answers.

    There is no statistical significant test out there saying people don’t want to read a longer book. In fact, with Osho something else happens: you can’t stop reading!

  11. Lokesh says:

    Martyn….’i vote we elect a new inner 21 from the bloggers of sannyasnews…’
    Good idea and also very humorous. That is the spirit. Now, as I was saying…

  12. shantam says:

    The biggest market of Osho´s books is in India, the land from where OSHO comes, though i am sure the fragile ego of the west hurts, but they are unable to create Osho from Santa Claus!
    Indians have also the double benefit, as books are both in Hindi and English.

    Still it will be a big let down of His legacy, if He is presented to the world only as a Book author.

    What about His sannyas, What about the concept of communes?

    If His own people are not willing to embrace the complete package, than who else will do.

  13. prem bubbie says:

    Chinmaya says-”People are serious and do not like jokes”. “Osho is the only… and non else”…. let me get this straight, mentally ill people(yes, being serious is a mental illness)seek out a cure(osho), before they are willing to receive the cure, they replace the cure with a placebo and then ingest the placebo, thinking they received the cure. How insane is that? OIF (Old Infertile Fuckups) and leave Osho out of your name from now on.

  14. prem martyn says:

    anyone read any good books lately… lokesh what about you.. whats on your favorite list at the mo’ ? any suggestions.. i’m looking for an ethical read …

  15. Lokesh says:

    Shantam, by posting comments like this ‘though i am sure the fragile ego of the west hurts, ‘ you make yourself look very stupid. Is that your intention? If not, you really need to stand back and do a double check.

  16. prem bubbie says:

    Chinmaya with his close-minded idea that Osho is the only enlightened being who could “bless us to laugh”… what a crock of shit…. it’s up to us, stupid.

  17. prem bubbie says:

    Shantam- being an alleged molester, your energy is worth more in a jail… a good english jail… where soap dropping is a common practice. and a cup of tea is served after the shower. enjoy

  18. prem bubbie says:

    P.M. – “Les Miserables” Shantam- for you- “Le Cage Aux Folles”.

  19. prem martyn says:

    bubbie if it wasn’t for the tuna burgers and occassional US flag waving.. i’d have to ask you for a date…

    how about 1776 when men were men.. and revolting..but. for a better world…
    even if we’re not meant to win…with mother nature…. its fun losing out to her by way of louis armstrong’s ‘all the time in the world…’


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  20. prem martyn says:

    shantam censor claus…i feel insulted when you dont insult me or my fragile ego.. please i encourage you to do a second stage dynamic here in writing on sunass news.. i’ll sponsor you with every insult that hits hard… naughty words encouraged and please insult me or my ancestors, gurus and sexuality and integrity… and anything else i’ve missed out…

    ps .. do you STILL deny by your silences the allegations of sexual misconduct here raised by several sannyassins already…

  21. shantam says:

    Lokesh, when i speak sarcastically about the West, it is in the context of controled freaks in the ashram and some faceless bastards with fake names here at sannyasnews..

    There is a vast population in the west, who has no connection with Sannyas..and some where most of them are more humane, more courageous, have more integrated being than those who are wearing the Indian names…

    I hope, it will be worth for Osho to take birth again, atleast this time He will not feel pumped up by the so called devotion and intelligence of the wstern people…

    Let it be on the record, within few days of Osho´s death, almost 100% sannyasins who went with their sinking boat to Lucknow were white sannyasins…

    More or less, all the facts point to simple fact, Sannyas was a misplanted organ in the western heart…
    At Sannyasnews it is even more evident..

  22. shantam says:

    What a cheap strategy on behalf of the fakers,
    May be, in my past life i did some sexual misconduct with the mothers of those guys who are pretending to be martyn and bubbies during my corss country journies, that such soulless bastards came in being…
    I am not sure, whether i was paying the full amount for the services received.. but yes..there was no rubber available during that time and how naive i was to think.. swallowing was included in the price…

  23. Lokesh says:

    Hey, come on Shanbigtum, be honest. That beautiful chick Shakti gave me a hassle becuse you started writing sugar-coated letters to her that were full of sexual innuendoes like: ‘Do you like big boys?’ ‘Are you a truffle badger?’ etc. Well, I only have her word for it so no final judgement passed, but like the hairbrush and Rajneesh I suspect there is some truth to it.
    You of course have a right to defend yourself against these sordid allegations.
    The accused may now take the stand after swearing on ‘The Book of Secrets’.

  24. prem martyn says:

    censor claus…well okay i’ll give you fifty bonus points for the cheap strategy insult , but you lose 35 points for the old repeated insult ‘ fakers’
    not a bad attempt at some joke story telling with a bit of innuendo…well crap actually
    did they write ‘could do better’ on your school reports?
    p.s
    all you need is love..

  25. prem martyn says:

    swami defective….
    where did it all go right ?
    this question haunts me….
    could you fill out the multiple questionnaire form at the bottom of this page…
    you might be better off working in profile statistics than as a writer…as people tend to lose the will to live whilst you literally save them from themselves….

  26. Chinmaya says:

    yes, placebo is fine for westerns because more than ninty per cent westerns do not know, who is there physical father right from first day or how many are one’s father, all cunts are available to any or many at one time or daily which gives tension to them and Osho’s laughing therapy bless them for some moments which helps them inside and this multi fractured fucking to your mothers indicates going from one punja or other and many punja entice that too in India, perhaps, indians too were participants in the fucks of your mothers

  27. prem bubbie says:

    P.M.- I’ll stay with my tuna- free dolphin burgers instead…. just sooo good, along with a side of dolphin fin soup… just warms me up on a cold winter’s day… “Mangi”!! Prem Martyn

  28. prem bubbie says:

    Was that Chinmaya posting or Shantam? Is this shantam’s other identity? I give Chinmaya 100 points total for his use of “fuck” in his post…. a miracle indeed… did you give offerings to Mother Kali before posting? She certainly did inspire you. Now, what was it you were trying to say?

  29. Lokesh says:

    I think he was saying that 90% of dirty white-skinned foreigners are bastards. I have to stop now as…sniff…big bad Chinmaya has hurt…sniff… my feelings…sniff…

  30. Satya Deva says:

    shantam:

    Lokesh, when i speak sarcastically about the West, it is in the context of controled freaks in the ashram and some faceless bastards with fake names here at sannyasnews..

    SD:
    There goes the robot again…

    Allow me to correct this statement:

    “…when I speak sarcastically about the West it is in the context of TWO control freaks in the ashram and ONE faceless bastard with a fake name here at sannyasnews…”

    OK by you if I refer to you, Chinmaya and Anugrah (three of the most misguided, mediocre, thoroughly stupid people I’ve come across in sannyas) as ”The East’ in future then, Shantam?!

  31. Satya Deva says:

    Shantam:
    Let it be on the record, within few days of Osho´s death, almost 100% sannyasins who went with their sinking boat to Lucknow were white sannyasins…

    SD:
    What exactly is your point here, Mr Lawyer?

  32. Gandhi says:

    When will Prem Bubbie leave the scene?
    Why is he here?
    Now he wants to sink Byron Bay sannyasin residents.

    He is obviously brain damaged, hates Osho and his sannyasins, is heavily traumatized from his short ranch visit (about 25 years ago!) and forgets that shit belongs into the toilet and not in his brain.

    Prem Bubbie needs therapy or more drugs.

  33. Lokesh says:

    His point is that he does not want there to be the slightest doubt that he is an absolute idiot.

  34. Chinmaya says:

    ok, find out the big bastards amongst white, if you label others as bastards, you must be Bastard of lowest class who designate others and always speaks against Osho, you bloody bastard barking stray dog of white produced out of porno girl( as your mother), who too must be bastard five/six decades ago, because this bastard word came from white bastards who used to produced bastards through the bastard system of white bastards.

  35. Shahriar says:

    Yes I have recently read some good books.

    I recommend Ayn Rands work, both fiction and non-fiction depending of your mood.

    I am currently reading Gurdjieff’s Beelzebubs Tales to His Grandson. It is really brilliant, although I warn you that it is not written in “bon ton literary language.”

    Aleister Crowleys book of verse White Stains is also good.

  36. prem martyn says:

    good chinmaya..very good… now… up and down up and down hoo hoo hoo hoo.. then freeze….etc etc

    sounds like everything is as usual then here on sn… wait a minute .. who is this amrito…it couldn’t be the one they .. no.. no .. he .. i mean .. er ja oh ..dear ..

    ps …fakers is spelt wrong…

    if it needles you point-lessly.. it should be fakirs .. i think thats right …

  37. shantam says:

    Lokesh, if you want to see the record of my conversation with Shakti aka Anita, i can forward it to your facebook page.
    I appreciate that the story was reconfirmed by Ms. Shakti though her version was different.
    secondlly, rajneesh is a public figure, and when some one toss a story, it is in the interest of honesty and fairness to recheck the contents and the source..

    Ethics of public writing require such discreation in any civilised world…

    fakers are other things, but when i read you and your bodygurad Satya Deva, it simply shows…blessed are those who follow the life step by step without the coaching from Living gurus..
    Seems like mother and papaji cannot change the mediocrity, but yes..some first aid work they definately do.. to make wounded ego self assertive..

  38. shantam says:

    Shantam:
    Let it be on the record, within few days of Osho´s death, almost 100% sannyasins who went with their sinking boat to Lucknow were white sannyasins…

    SD:
    What exactly is your point here, Mr Lawyer?

    My point is very clear, Rolling stones gather no moss….

  39. shantam says:

    Once India was called, “The Golden Sparrow”.
    Beautiful whether, fertile land and less population. Civilisation could grow in all the dimensions.
    Naturally, it invited the barberious and hungry invaders from all the sides…

    After few hundred years, India is again on the way of unprecedented prosperity, it is again becoming “Golden Sparrow.”

    Is this because of the prayers in the temples, Auervedic massage and Yoga?
    I don´t think so.
    If India needs to bow down with gratitude, it should be before the whitemen in the cold countries, who developed technology, specially medical and information technology, the science of capitalism and democracy.
    By coping the concept from cover to cover, India owes a gratitude to a civilisation which has no Krishna, Rama, Nanak, Buddha and others and their thousands of inspiring stories..

    What west has given, has given in abundance..

    Does it means, west is complete.

    No, this is not the case, and Osho was the person to point the limitations of both the cultures and civilisations.
    unfortunately, after His death, those westerns who were expert in property and finance management are using their unskilled hands in the matters of heart and the beyond..

    It is for this west- the arrogant, cold, dry and superficial that i am not showing any respect, the way i have never shown the respect to those Indians, who misuse the country´s laws and constituion for their highly selfish motives.

  40. shantam says:

    Editors have the note on the front page which ends with-
    Sannyas News solely provides an interactive sannyas site which is provocative and uncensored..
    This is quite true..

    Does Provocative and uncensored means, anybody with any fake name can write anything in highly obscene and unparliamentarian language?
    Editors need to bring forward their opinion about slanderous, libellous and scurrilous writings by few characters who call themselves anarchists yet take the shelter behind the freedom of free speech provided by the democratic norms and that too by hiding their beings under the sand bags…

    As i see, sannyasnews is standing on the crossroads of its authenticity and reliability.
    Lack of articles writers at this site is a proof…

  41. prem martyn says:

    so shantam …so what your saying is that you deny behaving in a lewd and non-devotional way with a poor young defenceless ma who had only just taken sannyas….apparently you said it was tantra…

    i just need to know if the allegations are not just made up ones…based on a high degree of tantric leg pulling…

    why would these allegations be of any interest to anyone ? personally i believe taking sannyas is just a gamble .. it was the girls fault.. i’m sure…
    but thats the whole point of allegations on the internet.. they may be just invented ..
    i trust you .. you say you are a sannyassin.. thats all i need to know…you love osho even the rude bits .. your secrets are safe with me….
    all you need is love..(especially with the rude bits….)

  42. Lokesh says:

    Shantam, you and your cronies, Anugrah and Chinmaya (white people are bastards) really have a scorpion up your culoos about sannyasins who have hung out with other teachers after Osho left the building. What exactly is that all about?
    PS I was only pulling your plonker about Shakti. I think she is a bit of a white-skinned spoiled brat.

  43. shantam says:

    I have explained my position about the West, few hours ago in the piece above and also from time to time.
    and my only point of contention is about the western sannyasins and not the race as general.
    They have played significant role in the rise of Osho movement but have played even more significant role in the demise of it in the western hemisphere.
    There was no prosecution from the church or the state, yet in the matter of internal conflicts, western sannyasins have taken a very indifferent approach on the grass root level and very cowardly and diplomatic approach on the therapists levels. No wonder, sannyas has proven a one generation affair in the west, instead of inspiring their society in a positive way, the candle has been blown away..and still western management in the ashram is not willing to concede.

    I think, it is no harm to look at the picture in an objective way.

  44. shantam says:

    sannyasins who have hung out with other teachers after Osho left the building. What exactly is that all about?
    It is an personal choice.We are living in a consumer society, every relation is in a flux.
    my main concern is not those who have gone to the other teachers, but the people who are coming to Osho, even though he has left the Building.
    These people must have the same Osho spirit and energy in the ashram compound as it was always till 2000, and than started gradually declining as the grip of two three people became stronger and stronger.

  45. prem martyn says:

    shantam…any chance that in the pursuit of Indian joy the girls might get a look in.. with some miniskirts and public kissing and groping .. like xmas in the west.. or will India get the joy of development without anything publically enjoyable apart from some kulfi bars and no dirty rude words on television….

    india..land of shit on the beach and shit in the head.. you all love death and dirt too much for sex to ever become more than a teenage boys kulfi bar love song.. you are all incredibly and i mean incredibly emotionally illiterate.. no range no depth no historical development no freedom loads of shit in the family, economic dependency on paternalism, fear of the word cunt, no equality , loads of unexpressed porn in the head and a propensity for interracial violence that threatens even the simplest conversations on religion , opinion, behaviour.. you are all a bunch of big toe rags trying to strip the west of our inherited freedom to say Osho licked cunt without getting offended.. and having nothing else to depend on than discipline and banning in good old indian style.. no culture no style no sex no love…. but some of the prettiest women in the world who will never get to know what its like to grow up because men like you stop them playing..with their clits..

    and yes the west is shit too cos we have exported wars that killmany of the most physically defenceless and beautiful people in the world….

    and i’m not giving you my facebook page .. however much you cry foul.. sn doesnt operate on your whims or threats…

  46. prem martyn says:

    anarchist means fuck for freedom and fuck for love.. not for enlightenment or spirituality-governed collective approved behaviour whomsoevers guru cock or cunt you lick in your self approved dreams

  47. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    Prem Martyn is full of bullshit, and has the ego of the white supremist culture which thinks it knows it all. This SannyasNews is growing into a Rascist platform and it seems there is a cowardly gang here against Shantam. They understand him to be true, but feel humiliated by Eastern views. Osho was Eastern Inner View and Western Outer View.
    Really Shantam should leave this dirty platform, as he is the only sensible voice here who argues with some sense and with reason. Shantam, leave these retarded people and it will save you from becoming like them. You have clear understanding of OSho message and also the implications of the western sannyas mevement, but people like Martyn and Bubbie are just not worth your time and compassion.
    Leave SannyasNews and they will be left slinging mud amongst themselves.

  48. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    And remember Martyn India has produced thousands of Buddhas including our beloved Master Osho, in this land of shit as you state, And where there is no shit in the west, you are eating our shit for spiritual prasad, you shithead.

  49. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    The western male treats women as objects of use. Western women should rebel against this exploitation and ugly verbalisation by men there. Osho says that western women have lost their grace and beauty because they have lost their mystery of being. The ugly and male chauvanstic people like Martyn use words that convey their disrespect for women, and use them for their sexual lust and power trips. This is not the New man Osho speaks about, but barbaric cave men of the western past.

  50. Satya Deva says:

    Shantam:
    Editors need to bring forward their opinion about slanderous, libellous and scurrilous writings by few characters who call themselves anarchists yet take the shelter behind the freedom of free speech provided by the democratic norms and that too by hiding their beings under the sand bags…

    As i see, sannyasnews is standing on the crossroads of its authenticity and reliability.
    Lack of articles writers at this site is a proof…

    SD:
    Ever considered, Shantam (and others),that if there were no truth whatsoever in the treatment you’re receiving here, at the hands of a number of obviously intelligent people, you’d be able to simply laugh and walk away?

  51. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    And Martyn this is not Indian conditioning, just human behavior and sense of regard for womankind. Remeber your mother is a woman, if you want me to remind you what Cunt means, and what Fuck means. You came out of a fuck and a cunt your idiot !!!!

  52. prem martyn says:

    buddhas ….big deal so fucking what what has it done for your social sexual freedom……
    fuck all

    we had jesus christ … so fucking what…
    big fucking deal
    oh dont tell me the planet has mysteriously benefitted from people sitting on their arse…and playing with their dicks…or rosaries….

  53. Satya Deva says:

    Gyan Prakash:
    Leave SannyasNews and they will be left slinging mud amongst themselves.

    SD:
    Perhaps Shantam’s problem with exiting stage left is that he simply has nowhere else to go, as everywhere else has banned the unfortunate man…..

  54. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    Martyn says
    you are all a bunch of big toe rags trying to strip the west of our inherited freedom to say Osho licked cunt without getting offended..

    The West has no Inherited Freedom, it has to Earn it.
    The West has to learn from eastern wisdom you ignorant retard.That is why you went to Osho.
    And please leave Osho and his likes and dislikes aside from you disgraceful pornographic immature mind of the West, which only understands abuse.

  55. prem martyn says:

    oh the mother is sacred …indian mind…

    no she fucking isnt ..neither am i
    call her what you want anytime… and me. too…. thats my point mr prick rash

    but my guru… oooohhhhhh please dont call him a cunt ooohhhhh no call the religious police….

  56. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    Social Sexual freedom, great news that has led to this vast Pornigraphic western society hungry and betraying women as porno objects. Women are forced to sell their bodies into prostitution to satisfy lusting western men. What sexual freedom do you reallyhave, just lust and power for lust. Selling and buying women in the market, exhibiting women . You are raping the dgnity of your women who have become exhibitions for body parts. Child pornography rampant, this is your sexual freedom ??

  57. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    Oh i see Martyn, let ypur mother read your mail here and she will wish you were not born out off her womb or her cunt if you wish to proudly openly state.

  58. prem martyn says:

    the cunts dead you stupid cunt.. and she taught me how to swear you fuckface prick

  59. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    Lucky she is dead you ungrateful living dead human waste.

  60. prem martyn says:

    you dont get it do you prick rash.. you dont get the fun and laughter… and self abandonment… and real equality….and the power of osho totalness…
    swami
    you missed

  61. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    You are my fun and laughter here, a pevert covering it up as real equality and totalness. You have not missed the pornographic mind and live in abandon you retarded pevert. I may have missed, but not missed my love and gratfulness for my Master Osho.
    Enjoy your sol called freedom of peversion.

  62. prem martyn says:

    thanks prick rash…
    glad to be of holier than thou service…

    now let us pray…
    dear cunty who sucks in heaven spunky be thy name
    in my mouth and in my rear end.. forever and ever
    aaaaaaa
    men
    /goats
    /virgins
    incest
    /buddhas
    and
    indians

  63. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    The Racist Martyn White Supremist Ego

  64. prem martyn says:

    yes prick rash true…
    now do something about it big boy…
    … call mama
    or say i love osho

    it wont help.. you guys buried osho’s sannyas and vitality together…

  65. Satya Deva says:

    You know, chaps, I’ve been, er, ‘thinking’…We Westerners and these Indians see things so differently, because we’re, well, so ‘different’…

    They seem to view Osho far more as a religio/socio/political revolutionary,, the leader/inspiration of some sort of, – at least potentially – mass movement, ie they see it all in a far more ‘communal’ way than us.

    All fuelled by an understandable wish for their version of a well overdue psycho-sexual-socio ‘liberation’ – yet underrmined by the apparent determination of many, who while apparently wanting to embrace ‘free’ western attitudes, also like to cling on to traditional religious attitudes and observances, eg making such a fuss about the need for mass devotional gatherings.

    Plus, of course, their overriding wish to view Osho the man as ‘perfect’, infallible in every way

    Which looks to many of us very much like a load of old nonsense – ‘quaint’ perhaps, but not essential – to our western, er, ‘post-modernist’ eyes…

    We’re in different religio/cultural historical eras, causing widely differing emphases, it seems to me…

    And I’ll tell you what –

    Osho would not have made a fraction of the impact he did (and does and will do) without the participation of his western people, who vastly outnumbered the ‘natives’ during his sojourn here. (And still do, of course, despite the racist rubbish spouted by the likes of Shantam and Gyan Prakash).

    Whereas, being far more individual-oriented, we don’t really go for that ‘religious community’-type stuff – especially after Oregon…

  66. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    The East is the East, The West the West,
    and the Twain shall never meet !!!
    Amen….

  67. Satya Deva says:

    Swami Gyan Prakash:

    Social Sexual freedom, great news that has led to this vast Pornigraphic western society hungry and betraying women as porno objects. Women are forced to sell their bodies into prostitution to satisfy lusting western men. What sexual freedom do you reallyhave, just lust and power for lust. Selling and buying women in the market, exhibiting women . You are raping the dgnity of your women who have become exhibitions for body parts. Child pornography rampant, this is your sexual freedom ??

    SD:
    I’m no aplogist for sexual abuse, but tell me, GP, why did Osho encourage all to have as much sex as they wanted?

    Including public orgies, in and out of groups, with therapists like Teertha screwing hundreds, all with the specific blessing of the Master?

  68. Satya Deva says:

    Wouldn’t you say, GP, that, in your terms, he has much to answer for?

  69. prem martyn says:

    well done everyone.. did you enjoy myself… ?
    i do hope so…
    next time i’ll take your position prick rash and argue against myself…

    this could run and run…

  70. Satya Deva says:

    Enough for me for today…Back tomorrow….

  71. prem martyn says:

    me too byee

  72. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    Osho insisted to move into sex
    so that you could ” go beyond sex ” you dimwitted pevert.
    And for your information no therapist was allowed to have sex or any relationship with the participants.
    Get your facts right. Any Therapist entering into relationship with any participant had to wait for 3 months before it was allowed by Osho. As therapist having relationship with any participant was exploiting their vunerability. There were parameters of acceptability even then.

  73. prem martyn says:

    ooh i must have been raped by one of the ashrams most beautiful therapists then…. how awful for me

    i’m traumatised…
    now
    i really must go ..

  74. shantam says:

    SD:
    Perhaps Shantam’s problem with exiting stage left is that he simply has nowhere else to go, as everywhere else has banned the unfortunate man…..

    Satya deva, you will make your Mama Meera very ashamed by beleiving in mud sliding fakers….

    Don´t put your growth on the level of viruses..protect the buds of little truth..if you really feel you have worked to cultivate these truth buds…

  75. prem bubbie says:

    Now we have a “Gandhi” posting– say shantam, is this you or Prakash or Chinmaya, or Anugrah? Why don’t you demand to know their true identity? Fucking hypocrite…. Gandhi– i had a good laugh reading your post… next time direct it towards Prakash or better known as “Sewer Mouth Sam”…. I thought i had a foul mouth!!! Prakash wins the 2011 award for “Feces Face of the Year”— here’s shit in or eye- or is it “Sperm in my Eye shantam”?

  76. prem bubbie says:

    It’s taken over a year to get these idiots to open up and let loose their tongues… Yes, even sexually repressed Indians can be broken…. I’ll drink to that….

  77. prem bubbie says:

    Prakash- you have no idea what osho’s intentions were back in the ’70′s and early ’80′s — Sex is something alien to you and fantasize daily– i imagine you’re still a virgin… convert to islam, then you can fantasize about the after-life and fucking virgins… even there you’ll stay a virgin- Punk!!!

  78. prem bubbie says:

    P.M.- eat some tuna-free dolphin soup, it’ll help you calm down… bon appetit.

  79. prem bubbie says:

    Prakash- the highest rate of HIV transmission is in India—- mainly due to piggish India truck drivers screwing sleazy hookers from town to town on their way to deliveries… no condom, no worries… along with india’s archaic caste system and male-dominated society, India is definitely the biggest un-spiritual country on the planet… The west didn’t export war, it just imported it from the east… The butchers from ancient India and China and Japan… the west only tidied up the messy process, now India and Pakistan will go to war on a drop of a hair pin- nukes and all….fighting over a bunch of snow covered boulders— where are India’s gurus, those holy men now? Still suck in their inverted, contorted , gumby like positions, unable and unwilling to move to save the world, ’cause they might lose their gawking audience and the few rupees gathering dust in their coffee cups… This is what they endeavored for when they set out for enlightenment…. a twisted neck and a good laugh from some white folks.

  80. Shahriar says:

    Where to start. As far as western civilization which Shantam describes as “arrogant, cold, dry and superficial.” That is not true. The spiritual achievements of western civilization are unrivaled in history. We are going to start from the renaissance. John Locke, the Founding Fathers of America, the innumerable capitalists, businessmen and innovators who are the moral heroes of capitalist society and who brought the world out of the dark ages, out of the middle ages. They are the reason why today such immense prosperity, wealth and individual rights are enjoyed by westerners. It is because of these moral heroes of western civilization and their spiritual achievements. The rights which women enjoy today in western civilization is entirely due to the renaissance and the philosophy of the renaissance which has allowed it in the words of the most unlikeliest of persons Aleister Crowley “to exceed the nations of the earth in splendor and pride.”

    Not to mention the artistic achievements of western civilization from Michelangelo, Friedrich Nietzsche, Ayn Rand and the innumerable musicians, poets, novelists and playwrights who have enriched western culture with their immortal works.

    Again quoting from Aleister Crowley “Let Mary inviolate be torn upon wheels ; for her sake let all chaste women be utterly despised among you. Also for beauties sake and loves.” It is the west that has invented the concept of the girlfriend and the boyfriend. It is the west which has invented the concept of the love affair. Not the east, the east only knows about marriage, a very serious institution.

    As far as pornography, women are not forced to engage in pornography, if they want to do so they can. They are not being exploited. They are simply marketing a film which displays them having sex. You Indians may object to it, but I don’t see anything wrong with it. If a model profits from her beauty why shouldn’t a pornstar profit from hers? Isn’t the sexual act a very beautiful act? Why should it be hidden in the dark as if it is something ugly or shameful? Men especially should not criticize pornography because it would be hypocritical and dishonest, you are receiving such a service from these women selling videos of themselves having sex so that you can masturbate and here you are condemning them?

    One final thing, ideas are not a product of ones race. So any sort of collectivism, whether racial or not is wrong. No race, whether the white race or the Indian race, is superior or inferior. It is not the race which is superior or inferior but ideas. The achievements of western civilization are not due to the color of their skin but they are a product of the ideas and values of western civilization such as individualism, reason, capitalism etc. etc. etc. That is the reason why western civilization is superior to all other civilizations, not because of its race.

  81. Shahriar says:

    As far as freedom of speech, it includes the right to offend and use foul language. Of course SN is a privately owned website and therefore they are well within their rights to moderate this discussion and prevent certain forms of speech.

    It is interesting that Genghis Khan is also part of the eastern heritage and yet he is largely ingnored. This shows something about those who condemn western civilization because it has fought wars. It shows that underneath their condemnation is hidden hatred and envy. Hatred of the good for being the good as Ayn Rand would say. Hatred of western civlization for its virtues and its achievemts. For its success, for the unashamed materialism of the west which is a refutation of religion and mysticism and its promises. Which shows the utter bankruptcy of religious and mystical thought and its failure to contribute anything to human life.

  82. Shahriar says:

    And let me add that war itself is not a cause for condemnation. There is such a thing as war in self-defense, as war for the protection of individual rights, there is such a thing as a righteous war. Such as the American Revolution.

  83. Lokesh says:

    Careful lads because the mind is shaping your language and the viscious circle spins and completes itself by the language in turn shaping the mind. Both are brilliant tools but in the long run it is a mistake to misuse them. Why? Because they impose severe limitation and you are already limited enough. Can’t you feel that? If you don’t you are a dullard.

  84. Shahriar says:

    Check this video out:


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  85. prem bubbie says:

    “I can feel it Dave”…. “I can feel it”. – H.A.L. 9000, 2001: A Space Odyssey … “I can feel it, lokesh”.-prem bubbie– 2011:A Space Cadet’s Modesty”

  86. Lokesh says:

    Bubbie, that is a good one.

  87. Satya Deva says:

    Swami Gyan Prakash:

    Osho insisted to move into sex
    so that you could ” go beyond sex ” you dimwitted pevert.
    And for your information no therapist was allowed to have sex or any relationship with the participants.
    Get your facts right. Any Therapist entering into relationship with any participant had to wait for 3 months before it was allowed by Osho. As therapist having relationship with any participant was exploiting their vunerability. There were parameters of acceptability even then.

    SD:
    Thank you, Prakash, for exposing your complete and utter ignorance of what went on in Osho’s Poona, in and out of the ashram.

    Nice try at ‘sanitising’ it all, making it look oh so ‘controlled’ and ‘respectable’…

    All part of your preferred vision of ‘Osho the Infallible’, I guess, eh?!

    Well, it’s your freedom to choose to believe a Lie, but you really ought to realise that it is a Lie, before you start abusing others on that basis.

    Ignorant, gullible fool!

  88. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    Prakash- you have no idea what osho’s intentions were back in the ’70′s and early ’80′s — Sex is something alien to you and fantasize daily– i imagine you’re still a virgin… convert to islam, then you can fantasize about the after-life and fucking virgins… even there you’ll stay a virgin- Punk!!!

    Bubbie, fucking western women who have been used as garbage dump, is not my style.You are a wasted bag of used materials now.

  89. Swami Gyan Prakash says:

    So Satya Deva feels that Osho said go into Sex and indulge Yes ??
    Or Dive into Sex to Transend ??

  90. prem martyn says:

    bubbie thanks for the toast (hic)
    its an old woody guthrie tactic
    tell it like it is

    and you still like my dolphin soup video joke eh…?

    good .. i got thrown out of PETA headquarters in virginia for daring to be myself….and playing openly with ideas..
    so i know you care really…

  91. Satya Deva says:

    Prakash, it’s all very well for you to cite the fine-sounding higher purposes of the Master, but don’t you think Osho didn’t make this consistently clear enough, so that it was relatively easy for his people to receive the message loud and clear that indulgence was the name – and even the ultimate purpose in itself – of the game?

  92. prem martyn says:

    prick rash

    you can choose what he said… thats the whole point…
    but you cant choose being yourself…..
    and thats even harder to explain..
    who knows tomorrow you’ll turn on a pin(change your attitude) and fuck yourself stupid with a western woman…
    then what will you say…

    truthfulness is for you to live but not for me to believe in..

    i have no investment in what you choose.. just avoid curbing others behaviours etc to serve your temporary interest….

  93. prem bubbie says:

    Lokesh- that thought came to my mind, under the influence of some smooth single- malt Scotch…. I just gave the entire Scottish people a big fat wet kiss…. I’m trading my stash of weed for a case of Scotch… gotta go with the flow.

  94. prem bubbie says:

    and Prakash is one of the dim wits trying to sanitize SN. How old are you Prakash? 20, or 30 years old or is it on the other end 65- 70? one side a childish fool, so gun-ho, a true Osho soldier. the other side; an old man suffering from Alzheimer’s wearing his diapers on his face. Somebody put the old dog out of its misery.

  95. prem bubbie says:

    prakash is quickly accumulating bonus points for the use of “fuck”… so desperate for that 25% discount at Walmart… you cheap bastard.

  96. prem bubbie says:

    P.M. if you want to payback PETA, just send over shantam and prakash…. I can see the headlines now…” PETA Members Take a Vow of Self-Mutilation.” “Chains and Whips in Short Supply”. “Virus and Bacteria Thought To Be Culprits”. “Dolphin Burgers Selling for 10 Euros”.

  97. prem martyn says:

    bubbie.. its the only relish i admit to with your burgers…. the thought of prakash and shantam doing a nude PETA protest…. instead of get ‘em off .. there would be shouts of put them back on …arghhhh

    and stop fishing otherwise you might find an octopus might squeeze you by the tentacles…