Alleged Will of Osho

 

This is a simple short view of the matter! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2h8ev0i-Wc

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11 Responses to Alleged Will of Osho

  1. frank says:

    Bearing in mind that in this matter, I find myself in a similar position to my art teacher Mr Wise when, aged 10, I asked him which (football) team he supported. He answered, “They don`t support me so I don`t support them.”
    I would just like to ask a simple question:
    As you can still see parts of the white signature behind the black one when one is superimposed on the other, then how can they be identical?

    • preetam says:

      Frank, I also find your question very important for human future.

      Perhaps we care too much of black and white. It’s simply the first intrigue against human – to splitting us…anthracite is complementary of gold and seen by them who’ve not yet realised gold, but it is ‘one SELF’ that makes it possible.

      However, for the 1% grid as I call it, is the most important to keep power – since at least 5000 years – the split humanity. This old strategy we can witness any day, because it’s main work of politicians.

  2. sw. veet (francesco) says:

    Usually in the courts today wins the law of the richest, which accords with the law of attraction…but in India there is also the Karma to complicate things.

    A parody of justice that will have to decide if SP is a paranoid.

    When the law of Karma in the West prevails, everything seems consistent as a commonplace, from spiritual research to homosexuality.

    (With the law of Karma if everything is consistent it is not necessary to translate).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OnRxfhbHB4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydUWvCP2yS0

    Ciao,

    VF

    • Lokesh says:

      VT states, “When the law of Karma in the West prevails, everything seems consistent as a commonplace, from spiritual research to homosexuality.”

      Karma Cola no doubt his favourite beverage. Buddha recommended not to ponder overmuch on the precise working out of karmic consequences in order to avoid vexation and madness. Makes sense. I reckon VT is out to impress with his intellectual prowess in the realm of understanding how karma works, but in fact leaves me thinking that he does not have a clue about what he is actually saying. Sounds like a clever parrot. Ultimately that is a consequence of his karma bringing him to such a confused state of mind. Squawk!

      Where there is a will there is a way. True will is not a given in the human state. It is something that has to be worked for consciously and then slowly formed. As for debates about Osho’s will, I find it absurd. A will is something relating to what will happen once someone is dead…it is thus future orientated. Osho said many times that tomorrow never comes, it is always now, the future for him did not exist. I can dig it.

      I kind of doubt Osho would have bothered much about the future of his estate. It simply does not have his signature, characteristic mark, upon it. I know for sure that it does not make the slightest difference to me. Who gives a shit? I am sure Osho did not. He once told me that one of the most absurd things a man can do is be concerned about how he will be remembered when he is dead.

      I understand what he meant. Osho’s will is an utterly dead subject as far as I am concerned. As they say in Glasgow, a load of fuckin’ shite.

      Shantam enquires, “Is there a single instance where disciples have used such cunning and crude ways to capture power monopoly?” Such questions do not really bear thinking about. Basically, it is about politics.

      I agree with Osho in the sense that politics is a fool’s game, real low energy activity, hara orientated, a million miles away from love. Jimi Hendrix summed it up best when he declared, ‘”When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.” Now that is something I can relate to.

      • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

        Thanks, Lokesh, for your this morning’s ´Squawk’! and another ´Squawk!´… some ´flesh to the bones´, I´d say.

        You seem to be one of the very few here appearing on this website cornerto have been really present in His Presence.

        As well, I´m very much appreciating your Jimi Hendrix quote and subscribe to it:
        ”When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.”

        With love,

        Madhu

  3. shantam prem says:

    Seems like sannyas mind is hacked by those who felt offended by Osho’s brash view of their traditional stuff.

    Is there a single insistence where disciples have used such cunning and crude ways to capture power monopoly?

    MOD: insistence OR instance, Shantam?

  4. sw. veet (francesco) says:

    Lokesh, I’m surprised by your argumentative ability, and maybe not drinking soft drinks helps you.

    You, who know and follow the Compassionate One’s recommendations, do not limit yourself to “not to ponder overmuch on the exact working out of karmic consequences in order to avoid vexation and madness” but you even make a precise diagnosis of the causes that makes the clever parrot (VT) confusing.

    Osho not only told us to talk of him in the present tense (what will you talk about if there is no dead?) but also that we’ll feel his presence in a thousand-and-one ways.

    Luckily, then you remedy by quoting one that like you ‘walks the talk’, who has discovered what it is that gives true peace.

    Ciao,

    VF

    • Lokesh says:

      VT maybe does not quite cut the mustard. I rarely drink alcohol. Just not enough bounce to the ounce. Besides, I do not like hangovers. Sobriety is the greatest intoxicant. Who said that? Squawk! I love birdseed!

  5. shantam prem says:

    We need to discuss also why western closest disciples will play such cheap Indian tricks of forging signatures.

    This video is a clear photogenic effort to show extreme cunning mind.

    • frank says:

      Yes, and before this very important discussion, on which the future of consciousness itself may very well depend, can I suggest, to get us into the right frame of mind, that we intone together the up-to-date version of the Gestalt prayer:

      I do my thing and you do your thing
      I am not in this world to live up to your expectations
      And you are not in this world to live up to mine
      I am I and you are you
      If we agree, that`s beautiful
      If not, you`ll be hearing from my lawyer.