Does a Master have a sex life?

In 2010  Subhuti wrote a book about his life with Osho,   called My Dance with a Madman. It was controversial, because he talked about Osho’s so-called sex life, something that he claimed hadn’t been done before – though many quote Vivek when she said he was a virgin. And after all she should have known!      He records his story thus:

” When I arrived in Pune the following winter, I was called into Krishna House and was informed by two senior members of the management that I couldn’t represent the Osho Resort in a black robe – leading groups and meditations – if I didn’t drop the sex chapter from my book.

Shubuti_New1Fair enough. I didn’t blame them for their attitude. But I didn’t feel like changing the book, so I had to let the black robe go. Again, it was a question of being ready to give up a certain image – this time as a hotshot group leader – in order to feel good about myself.

Then several female friends gave me feedback on the same issue. For them, it wasn’t talking about Osho’s sex life that was the problem. It was the way I’d done it…a bit cheap and sleazy, rather like the English journalist I used to be. At the same time, I found a quote where Osho actually talked about His sex life (July 22, 1985, – The Last Testament)

                  Subhuti

And  so, by rephrasing the story and including the quote, I managed to satisfy my critics, while at the same time keeping my own sense of integrity. In both situations, I got insights into my motivations, plus an invaluable experience of my own inner strength. And I saw how, in the game of self-awareness, learning doesn’t happen through gathering information. It happens the hard way, the exciting way, through life itself. That’s what
shows us how our minds work.

Seen from this perspective, the only power struggle that’s of any importance is the one between the mind and the witness. And here, perhaps, we can legitimately use the expression and say to the mind “Hey
buddy, you’re on a power trip!” The witness says nothing, does nothing, offers no opinions, and has no interest in
any kind of struggle. That’s why the witness will win.”

Subhuti

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58 Responses to Does a Master have a sex life?

  1. Arpana says:

    Something about this guy always screams Poona 1 Sannyas-speak clone. Poona 1 Sannyas jargon. Really refined. Got the lingo off so pat, almost sounds sincere and spontaneous. Find it hard to take anything he says as real or worth anything because of that. (Might be me misreading him, must say in fairness).

    • simond says:

      Arpana,
      I agree with you. His writing make no sense to me, full of jargon as it is. He is confused and is confusing. Imagine him as a father speaking to his children, he’d confuse the hell out of them with his indirect and meaningless spiritual speak. Poor kids.

      If it don’t make sense to you it’s just waffle. And, you don’t need to be “fair”, you ain’t misreading him!

  2. shantam prem says:

    I think it won´t be fair for anyone to comment on the contents of the book without reading them first.

    I was checking Amazon for this reason. 2.69 Euros for Kindle edition and around 10 Euros for paperback on prime delivery. I will think about it.

    It looks like in the first edition Subhuti has chosen Osho´s photo as cover title, because the Foundation people don´t allow use of Osho´s photo for the memorials of disciples, it was changed to a sketch.

    While writing this it feels like buying the book. I am curious to see whether Subhuti has some story about the untimely death of Nirvano (Vivek), who he has quoted about Osho´s sex life.

    After all, fellow disciple from the same country and the closest to the master dies in mysterious circumstances and journalist in Subhuti remains silent; this too is a matter for investigative journalism.

  3. shantam prem says:

    P.S:
    A minute later, notification from Amazon.de: “Thank you, your order has been placed.”

  4. Parmartha says:

    I was there that time when Osho talked about his sex life, it was clear he was ‘having them on, that is the journalist, etc.

    My sannyas cv is longer than Subhuti’s and I’ve been around the block a bit, and never met a woman who claimed she had slept with Osho.

    Vivek said at one point that Osho was a virgin.

    I have read Subhuti’s book. He claims that he knew two women who had “slept” with Osho. As he seems a little gullible, for example over the time Osho did have that journalist on, then one might ask whether he was equally gullible in the case of the two women.

    At Woodlands, his residence in Bombay, before Pune 1, there were a few rumours, but there would always be rumours around a man like Osho.

    My own experience of life is that the truth is actually stranger than fiction, and also it is surprising how much both men and women fantasise….

    • swamishanti says:

      Wasn’t there meant to be some kind of tape recordings made during the Ranch time of Osho’s private life?

      Vivek is complaining to Osho that “you never make love to me anymore”, and she throws a plate at him. Osho chastises her, “Shut up, woman, I’m trying to watch tv.”

      That was the impression given in Tim Guest’s book, ‘My Life in Orange’, anyway.

      Or was this story just Sheela’s bullshit?

      • Parmartha says:

        Thanks, Shanti, for your post.

        I taught Tim Guest when I was at Medina, and Poonam made me, for my worship detail!, the “teacher” of “the kids”.

        He really was a poor little intellectual kid, and was totally lost in Medina. He used to disappear behind the grand sofa in the main hall and made a sort of comic reading nest there with one friend. They were often out of sight for hours.

        His book is really not about being a sannyasin at all. It is about his relationship, or non -relationship, with his mother Vismaya, who also wrote a book as a sort of reply to Tim’s book.

        I myself would not trust what he writes as he had every reason to gather material and gossip that would discredit Osho. In his eyes I am sure he saw the whole connection to Sannyas was his mother’s responsibility, and hated it.
        I am very sad that he died a young man’s death.

        The story about Vivek and Osho has the ring of a Sheela gang fabrication.

  5. simond says:

    I find it very strange that we should be concerned at all if Osho had sex. I’d be surprised if he didn’t; why shouldn’t he?

    Perhaps he should have been more honest about it, but he created an image of himself that he was so enlightened that he was ‘above’ such things.

    This secrecy was indicative of his hesitation to reveal his more human side to his disciples. He had an image to maintain and generally a very loyal group around him to protect him and keep the gossip to a minimum.

    • shantam prem says:

      Simond, if you know already some enlightened masters, please ask them.

      Just writing this, I remember some holy person in Canada, quite famous among sannyasins too and claiming to be enlightened, can provide some answer. I think his name is John Something.
      Someone can ask Moo-ji too.

      Here, through this forum, I wish to ask my good friend Rajneesh to shed some light over this ever exciting theme among the seekers, ‘Sex Life of their Zen Master! As I know, only Rajneesh has the sense of humour and guts to answer this without hiding behind the bush.

      • Parmartha says:

        Well, SP, what does “Rajneesh” have to say about it??

        • shantam prem says:

          I think Rajneesh is the only one who does not shy away from claiming to be enlightened. Surely Sannyasnews bloggers won´t accept it. After all, for Jains, their Rajneesh too is one of the finest orators and nothing more.

          This logic gives Rajneesh aka Ozen even better ammunition to rubbish away any doubt. Also, he too is with a charming Ma who is dedicated to him like Nirvano was(is) with Osho.

    • Parmartha says:

      Not if, as like me, Simon, one was in Oregon when he told at least one reporter he had slept with over a thousand women! No indication that he thought himself above such things there.

      • swamishanti says:

        “How is Your own sex life? Are You still active?”

        “My sex life?”

        “You were active before in Poona?”

        “I have been active all my life. But now it is enough. I’m finished with it. I enjoyed it before my enlightenment, and I enjoyed it more after my enlightenment. And I proved one traditional idea wrong: that an enlightened man cannot enjoy sex. It is something of historical importance. But now I am completely satisfied. Too much!”

        ‘The Last Testament’

        “The enlightened man can make love, and while he is making love he is still centered in his being. He is just a witness, he is seeing himself and the woman making love; he is a third party. And this is what I mean when I say the enlightened man transcends sex, because he becomes a third party. He can see his own body and the body of his woman completely as a witness. His witnessing is not disturbed by anything.”

        ‘From Death to Deathlessness’, chapter 5

  6. Kavita says:

    Wonder if anyone ever would write whether if Osho ever defecated or urinated?

    “I find it very strange that we should be concerned at all if Osho had sex. I’d be surprised if he didn’t; why shouldn’t he?” – totally agree with this.

  7. shantam prem says:

    Does a Master have a sex life? Instead of digging in the graves to find the answer, why not editorial board send a letter of request to the Masters in the market?

    For the sake of spiritual evolution without any myths. They can provide some answer from their personal life.

    Questions?
    After your inner explosion, do you feel surge or decline in your libido?
    If yes, has it affected your love life?
    As a master of many, do you prefer straight sex?
    If not, is the quality of your 69 more enriching?

  8. Lokesh says:

    It is a bit like the saying that people who do not mind their own business are usually people who do not have any business of their own to take care of. I have heard rumours about Osho’s sex life…none of them very good ones. So what?

    • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

      So true, Lokesh, I can subscribe to that you mention, all of it. So then you ask: “So what?” Maybe, minding our own business also on this website.

      Subhuti did that in random parts of his sharing, yet I felt it more quite a skilled Spin Doctor´s journalistic approach but will (unfortunately) get his audience.

      Reminded me of my difficulties to keep balanced when hearing rumours. Or, as I recently shared, same difficulties as when I am exposed to rumours and its consequences.

      The topic title is as well put as it’s also essentially absurd. As the ‘sex-energy’ is not only one, out of which we all come from, accompanying us as a life-long life-energy force.

      And the teachings of transforming and/or using that energy are numerous-innumerable, as most of us here might know.

      Misleading habits (misuse of the power that lays there within) also quite known by now.

      So – spreading rumours also belongs to some ugly chapters – as well as the possible misuse itself.

      I liked your quite grounded remarks on that matter, Lokesh.

      Madhu

  9. prem martyn says:

    Sex and enlightenment…I can’t imagine it…but I’m trying…with my handy religious visualiser…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoGKbxEQNYE

  10. Parmartha says:

    One convention in this area is that so-called Masters have sex before enlightenment, but not afterwards.
    Makes no sense to me, those who shop around in the Masters supermarket know that everyone from John de Ruiter to Barry Long continued to have sex after enlightenment if one accepts their self-description that they were/are enlightened.

    For some, the idea of Osho never having had sex is not to his advantage. He spoke onTantra and advised in early darshans of the troubles people experience in relationships, etc. One assumes he was speaking partly from his experience.

    Nonetheless, I have been round the block in Sannyas circles since 1973, and never did once meet anyone who said they had sex with Osho!

    • shantam prem says:

      Parmartha, do you think all the enlightened people get similar experience after reaching their new flats in the exclusive suburb in heavenly kingdom?

      Example sake, what can be the common ground between J. Krishnamurti, Barry Long, Osho, Punja-Ji, John de Ruiter?

      I was feeling yesterady, when one sees Osho´s photos from early days till the last, he looks man possessed with his destiny to establish himself in the same league as Buddha or Mahavira. He walks, talks, dresses and poses according to his divinely ordained profession.

      Such people indulging in sex?
      Those who are no more in head giving the head?

      .

      • swamishanti says:

        Osho certainly had an interest in tantra from an early age.

        On a visit to Khujaharo, Madhya Pradesh, once, I remember talking to an Indian friend, one of the locals, who told me that when Osho used to visit the tantric temples there in Khujaharo, one of his relatives, his great uncle I think, had been a temple guide and  had guided the young Osho around the temples “many times”.

        The temples are adorned with elaborate sculptures.

        Apparently, there were around a hundred of  temples there at one time, until invading Islamic fanatics  destroyed most of them, and now there are about thirty left. There are also Jain temples there.

        Osho said somewhere that his grandmother had been born in Khujaharo, and had encouraged him to visit the place.

        • Parmartha says:

          Thanks, Shanti, for the post.
          I didn’t know that Khujaharo had been partly destroyed by Islamic fanatics of another age! Can you give some reference for that?

          • swamishanti says:

            Apparently, the Khajuraho temples were built during the Chandella dynasty.

            I don`t know whether the temples that survived and are present today escaped desecration because they were hidden in the jungle, or whether the vandals simply ran out of time.

            After all, they didn`t have any dynamite in those days, so the large stone temples wouldn’t have been so easy to demolish, unlike the Buddhas of Bamyan statues, which were destroyed by the Taliban in Afghanistan, or the recent destruction of the temples in Palmyra Syria by IS.

            Apparently, the British were shocked when they `discovered` the temples again, hidden away in the jungle.

            “After fall of Chandella dynasty (after AD 1150), Khajuraho Temples suffered destruction & disfigurement by Muslim invaders in this area, which forced local people to leave Khajuraho. As Muslim invaders had a ruling policy of intolerance for worship places of other religions so all the citizens of Khajuraho left the town with a hope that its solitude will not attract attention of mMslim invaders into the temple area, and in this way both temple and they themselves will remain unhurt. So from about 13th century to 18th century, Khajuraho temples remain in forest cover, away from popularity till it was rediscovered by British engineer T. S. Burt.”

            (From ‘History of Khajuraho Temples’)

            From Wikipedia:

            “Khajuraho temples were in active use through the end of 12th century. This changed in the 13th century, after the army of Delhi Sultanate, under the command of the Muslim Sultan Qutb-ud-din Aibak, attacked and seized the Chandela kingdom. About a century later, Ibn Battuta, the Moroccan traveller in his memoirs about his stay in India from 1335 to 1342 CE, mentioned visiting Khajuraho temples, calling them “Kajarra” as follows:

            “…near (Khajuraho) temples, which contain idols that have been mutilated by the Moslems, live a number of yogis whose matted locks have grown as long as their bodies. And on account of extreme asceticism they are all yellow in colour. Many Moslems attend these men in order to take lessons (yoga) from them.”

            — Ibn Battuta, about 1335 CE, Riḥlat Ibn Baṭūṭah, Translated by Arthur Cotterell

            Central Indian region, where Khajuraho temples are, remained in the control of many different Muslim dynasties from 13th century through the 18th century. In this period, some temples were desecrated, followed by a long period when they were left in neglect. In 1495 CE, for example, Sikandar Lodi’s campaign of temple destruction included Khajuraho. The remoteness and isolation of Khajuraho protected the Hindu and Jain temples from continued destruction by Muslims.Over the centuries, vegetation and forests overgrew, took over the temples.

            In the 1830s, local Hindus guided a British surveyor, T.S. Burt, to the temples and they were thus rediscovered by the global audience.Alexander Cunningham later reported, few years after the rediscovery, that the temples were secretly in use by yogis and thousands of Hindus would arrive for pilgrimage during Shivaratri celebrated annually in February or March based on a lunar calendar. In 1852, Maisey prepared earliest drawings of the Khajuraho temples.”

            OSHO QUOTE WARNING: LOOK AWAY NOW IF YOU DISLIKE READING OSHO QOUTES! :

            “What kind of temples are these, in which each temple has thousands of couples carved in stone?
            Full-sized men and women, so beautiful that once you have seen a Khajuraho temple woman, a statue, no woman will look beautiful to you! Every woman will look just a faded memory of something real. Those stones are so real …

            I used to go to Khajuraho – it was very close to my university, just a hundred miles, so whenever I had time I would drive there. The guide finally became a sannyasin – because he was himself ashamed to show them to people; but I told him, “You don’t understand. You need not be ashamed.

            These pictures, these statues, this sculpture is not obscene. There is not a single hint of obscenity, although they are absolutely naked in loving embrace, making love. But there is not a single hint of obscenity unless your mind is full of obscenity.”

            (Osho, ‘Sat Chit Anand’)

            “And three hundred years of British rule in India have destroyed India’s own educational system – which was a totally different thing. They forced the Eastern mind to be educated according to Western standards. They have almost turned the Eastern intelligentsia into a second-grade Western intelligentsia. They have given their disease of speediness, of hurry, of impatience, of continuous anguish, anxiety, to the East.

            If you see the temples of Khajuraho or the temples of Konarak, you can see the East in its true colors.

            Just in Khajuraho there were one hundred temples; only thirty have survived, seventy have been destroyed by Mohammedans. Thousands of temples of tremendous beauty and sculpture have been destroyed by Mohammedans. These thirty survived; it was just coincidence, because they were part of a forest. Perhaps the invaders forgot about them.

            But the British influence on the Indian mind was so great, that even a man like Mahatma Gandhi wanted these thirty temples to be covered with mud so nobody could see them. Just to think of the people who had created those hundred temples… each temple must have taken centuries to build.

            They are so delicate in structure, so proportionate and so beautiful, that there exists nothing parallel to them on the earth.

            And you can imagine that temples don’t exist alone; if there were a hundred temples, there must have been a city of thousands of people; otherwise a hundred temples are meaningless. Where are those people? With the temples those people have been massacred.

            And those temples I take as an example, because their sculpture will look pornographic to the Western mind; to Mahatma Gandhi it also looked pornographic.

            India owes so much to Rabindranath Tagore. He was the man who prevented Mahatma Gandhi and other politicians who were ready to cover the temples, to hide them from people’s eyes.

            Rabindranath Tagore said, “This is absolutely stupid. They are not pornographic, they are utterly beautiful.”

            There is a very delicate line between pornography and beauty. A naked woman is not necessarily pornographic; a naked man is not necessarily pornographic. A beautiful man, a beautiful woman, naked, can be examples of beauty, of health, of proportion. They are the most glorious products of nature. If a deer can be naked and beautiful – and nobody thinks the deer is pornographic – then why should it be that a naked man or woman cannot be just seen as beautiful?

            There were ladies in the times of Victoria in England, who covered the legs of the chairs with cloth because legs should not be left naked – chairs’ legs! But because they are called legs, it was thought uncivilized, uncultured, to leave them naked. There was a movement in Victoria’s time that the people who take their dogs for a walk should cover them with cloth. They should not be naked…

            As if nakedness itself is pornographic. It is the pornographic mind.

            I have been to Khajuraho hundreds of times, and I have not seen a single sculpture as pornographic.”

            (Osho, ‘Light on the Path’)

            “I used to go to Khajuraho often, because it was on the way to Chhatarpur, a small state where I had many friends. Mohammedans have destroyed seventy of the temples, and thirty temples were covered in mud to protect them from the Mohammedans, in the corner of a deep forest. So thirty temples are still there.

            When for the first time I went to see, just on the way, I could not believe my eyes. Men and women are making love standing on their heads! Just to stand on your head is enough trouble; to make love…and both are standing on their heads – would have been a great practice, a discipline, a lifelong discipline.

            You will be surprised…your playboys and your playgirls are nothing compared to Khajuraho. Two men are making love to one woman from both the sides. Three men are making love to one woman:

            two from both the sides, and one from the mouth! And these are religious temples!”

            (Osho, ‘Zen: The Mystery and the Poetry of the Beyond’)

            • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

              Thank you, Swamishanti (at 12.38pm), to take the effort…

              And thank you for the Osho quotes you found there too; it´s coming little bit to ´senses this way (and is informative too).

              Seems to be little stormy these first winter days, ups and downs in temperature inside-outside, does well to cool down a bit, doesm’t it?

              Madhu

            • Parmartha says:

              Thanks, Shanti, for your research on this. Very interesting.

  11. samarpan says:

    “If somebody shakes hands with me, it does not make me immoral or him immoral. And what is sex except shaking hands? And if you are too fanatic and clinical, then you can have a good douche, clean yourself and forget all about it.”

    Osho, ‘From Death to Deathlessness’ (chapter 16)

    • shantam prem says:

      Samarpan, can you tell me, in your opinion, this liberal quotation about sex from Osho is general in nature and addressed to the collective humanity, or it is about his preference, his way of living?

    • satyadeva says:

      “…and what is sex except shaking hands?”

      Well, I suggest very many utterly unenlightened people, myself included, would beg to differ on that one. Especially women?

      In fact, out of context, that’s possibly the most foolish comment I’ve ever heard from Osho, and as such, some of the worst possible advice to “the collective humanity”.

      The only mitigating factor might be that he was addressing a crowd of repressed Indians and so, like a good orator-cum-salesman, he used exaggeration-for-emphasis, to create a ‘shock factor’, possibly with one eye on the consequent wide publicity that would receive.

      • shantam prem says:

        “Indians are sexually suppressed.”

        Osho male sannyasins from the West have used this sweeping statement more than anybody else. More they have spent time in India, more they hate India. It is like Pakistani and Arabic kids in UK, USA. They don´t like the people to whom the country belongs.

        P.S:
        Based on the thought after reading SD´s post.

        • satyadeva says:

          Sheer nonsense, Shantam.

          It’s about time you didn’t necessarily believe the first thought that enters your emotionally fraught head. Haven’t you looked up ‘projection’ in your dictionary yet?!

  12. Lokesh says:

    SD says, “In fact, out of context, that’s possibly the most foolish comment I’ve ever heard from Osho.”

    Come on. How about telling people to wear rubber gloves while making love to prevent HIV infection?

    Is there any truth in the rumour about Osho wearing a scuba diver’s neoprene suit when indulging in a quickie with his buxom maid, Ma Prem Olga?

  13. swamishanti says:

    Osho enjoyed making outrageous statements to the world media. And he talked about tantra.

    But the question we’re really asking is: Did Osho actually ever have a shag?

    Or was he a virgin, like Vivek claimed?

    • Lokesh says:

      “Or was he a virgin, like Vivek claimed?”

      Some people simply don’t know how to take a joke. Of course Osho had sex. Well, at least going by what one gay sannyasin, Swami Anand Shabdkosh, told me.

  14. samarpan says:

    “Sex should be as simple as a handshake, a hug. It is a hug! It should not have any other implications; it should not demand anything else. It is enough unto itself, it is an end unto itself. That’s what I mean when I say to have reverence for it.”

    Osho, ‘Only Losers Can Win in This Game’ (chapter 2)

  15. prem martyn says:

    Oxford Definitions: ‘Hapenis Envy’.

    “The jealousy that arises when another man makes your ‘ex’ happier than you did.”

    viz: Women – all they want is fun-gu(y)s to hang out with.

    http://raverams.tumblr.com/post/103674152453/stinkhorn-grote-stinkzwam-phallus-impudicus

  16. shantam prem says:

    First time seen photo…
    Look at this watchfully and try to imagine about Osho´s lifestyle and where fits mental projections of all kinds.

    • Kavita says:

      Thanx for sharing this photo, Shantam.

      Pray tell me, whose mental projection? & what mental projection has to do with such a photo?

      • satyadeva says:

        It’s ok, Kavita, it’s just a ‘new word’ for Shantam, a completely new concept that he’s getting around to after many years of being urged to do so. He’s like a child with a new toy, he can’t leave it alone at the moment.

        Also like a child, he doesn’t understand how it works yet. Give him time…

        (On past form, at least a couple of decades!).

      • shantam prem says:

        Mental projection is to think this man called Rajneesh, aka Bhagwan, aka Osho, was taking part in conjugal bliss.

        I know many women feel wet over all with the idea of being in bed with powerful individuals around them.

        Projecting sex on Osho looks bit out of the way; also to treat him as Messiah too seems a kind of projection.Though this image he has cultivated himself.

        For example, when you encourage people to call you Avatara Kavita, there will be some needy man somewhere who will be happy to say so.

  17. Lokesh says:

    SD drops the double entendre of the week…

    “Also like a child, he doesn’t understand how it works yet.”

  18. prem martyn says:

    Is he eating Lidl horse-cow burgers?

    Or is that my projection?

  19. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    “Also like a child, he doesn’t understand how it works yet.”

    Yes, Satyadeva, Lokesh and maybe others.

    However, this kind of male mind and male emotional immaturity is living in a so-called grown-up body, and claims to be quite a Facebook champion etc. etc.

    And so I like to mention here that all reactive responding to such presented rubbish engrossens the rubbish instead of diminishing it.

    It has to be neglected, I feel, instead of nourishing it, what is happening there on the Swiss border. Not only sometimes, but sorry to say, most of the time.

    Madhu

    • Lokesh says:

      Madhu declares, “And so I like to mention here that all reactive responding to such presented rubbish engrossens the rubbish instead of diminishing it.”

      And thus Madhu sums up the situation in Syria. What to do?

      • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

        Uups! Lokesh,
        Seeing this of your ´responses´, I deeply understand what it is that Shantam Prem is so admiring in your stance: the mix of stupidity with violence, some ‘King Arthur´s midnight dreams’ and verbal expressions for final victory; and last and not at all least, (the secret agreement) on how a male hero is to treat a woman.

        So lots of stuff you sometimes seem to have in common.

        Sometimes also in very bad taste.

        Madhu

      • madhu dagmar frantzen says:

        As you married a German wife, Lokesh, I´ve another ´P.S.’ for you (she might translate it for you, if you need translation):

        “Kampf der restlichen Welt gegen die Selbstbehauptung des Einzelnen

        Du sagst:
        Hrrrr!
        Hrrrrrr!!
        Hrrrrrrrrr!!!! Rrrwah! Rrrwah!!!!

        KAI!
        KAI! KAI! KAI!
        Du sagst:
        Neff!
        Nnnnnnn – Njiff! Neff!

        Ich sag:
        Du bellst vor dem falschen Baum
        Du sagst:
        OUAH – OUAH!
        WAOUUUUUUH!

        Ich sag: Tu n’aboies pas dans le bon bois.
        Du sagst:
        BOW! BOW – OW – OW!
        Ich sag: You’re barking up the wrong tree, now.”

        Judith Holofernes, German songwriter lady and contemporary lyrics author (female!).

        Dedicated that quote to some of your barking-habits.

        For you, from Madhu – via Ibiza.

        MOD: WOULD SOMEONE TRANSLATE THIS, PLEASE?!!

        • Lokesh says:

          MOD, no need for a translation…you are not missing anything. Madhu and Shantam are the champs of writing things that nobody else can understand, and I suspect at times that includes themselves.

  20. shantam prem says:

    Parmartha, you are digging all kind of articles about Osho. Can you find some where disciple talks about his personal journey – journey under the robes of others!

    I mean swamis of Subhuti´s age are still very active in December-May relations. I don´t see many cougars and milfs but lots of hungry wolf.

    Thanks to Russian women´s search for Tantric bliss, there seems to be enough supply. Sometimes I ask me, “Shantam, you always miss the right profession. Why did not you invest something in becoming Massage or Tantra Therapist!”

    In a way, me and my friends from Pune days are still very naive, lost and innocent.

  21. shantam prem says:

    ‘Sex and Love Scene as seen by a Virgin disciple entering Osho Commune International!’

    Something like this will be the title of my article if I could write spontaneously about my experience and observation of 20 years in and around Pune.

    In my understanding, present management is so shrewd and clever that under the titles of Osho books they have buried the whole life taking place around Osho.

    Those who have written books only glorify their own journey without giving much hint about the real life happening around the master. Maybe they are ashamed and full of guilt that why life around Osho was not in the same style as with Buddha, Mahavira or Dalai Lama!

    What to say about picture and glimpse of real life? One cannot even find archives of Osho Times.

    In this sense, Sannyas News is more in tune with honesty and transparency, complete archive is available online.

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