Sting: If Blood will flow

Sting, the singer songwriter,

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Sting, now in his sixties

“I was inspired by Osho’s wisdom when I wrote the song  ‘How Fragile we all are’,  reading his books gave me hope for humanity. It is a must for everybody to have a look at his words:”

Here are Sting’s words in that song

“If blood will flow when flesh and steel are one
Drying in the colour of the evening sun
Tomorrow’s rain will wash the stains away
But something in our minds will always stay
Perhaps this final act was meant
To clinch a lifetime’s argument
That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could
For all those born beneath an angry star
Lest we forget how fragile we all are

On and on the rain will fall
Like tears from a star like tears from a star
On and on the rain will say
How fragile we are how fragile we are

On and on the rain will fall
Like tears from a star like tears from a star
On and on the rain will say
How fragile we are,  how fragile we are
How fragile we are how fragile we are ”

Sting singing this song when he was younger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB6a-iD6ZOY

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52 Responses to Sting: If Blood will flow

  1. frank says:

    I remembered a poem that appeared here on SN some time ago (2010)which was apparently written by Sting about Paul Lowe

    “Paul Lowe is a teacher of insight.
    He’s also good for a laugh.
    He has the face of a fallen angel
    and the legs of an old giraffe.
    He’ll make you think, he’ll make you cry.
    He claims he’s not afraid to die
    If he grew wings you know he’d fly.
    And he’s not afraid to tell you why.
    For Paul is a teacher of insight,
    he’s also good for a laugh.
    Like a Moses who has dropped the commandments.
    And he doesn’t need a staff.
    I know it’s not much of a poem,
    and it doesn’t have much of a tune
    but we hope it conveys the love we share,
    poetic flare, it’s rude but fair.
    And we hope to see you soon.”

    Love. Sting & Trudie, UK

    • Parmartha says:

      Yeah, I believe that Trudie looks on Paul Lowe as her ‘spiritual advisor’.

      If the poem you quote is really a Sting one, then one does wonder about the common sense, and lack of it, of the very rich.

      Paul Lowe, in my experience, was pretty avaricious, and preyed on the rich, and had a knack of being able to do so, even whilst a sannyasin. Also, he could winkle out of the rich that they were rich, and asked for support, etc. from them with great facility and boldness.

      • frank says:

        You know how they say that “Cocaine is God`s way of telling you you`re making too much money”?

        Maybe a similar thing could be said for “spiritual advisors”.

      • shantam prem says:

        It seems Parmartha’s list of 0.02% will not have Paul Löwe’s name into it!

        The other day, I met a therapist Ma from Pune days who goes regularly to the seminars of Paul Löwe in Parimal center in Germany.

        She was telling, last time Pune 1 sannyasins from America were also there and Paul creates atmosphare for deep meditation.

        At least one thing is clear, 650 books titles and thousands of audio videos are not enough. Thousand plus hours of Dynamic, Kundalini too are not enough.

        Thank God, nothing is enough.

        • Parmartha says:

          Paul does not freely acknowledge Osho in his life, and that I can’t abide.
          Oddly enough, given his Esalen background, I don’t really think he has ever looked at his own ambition (to be Osho’s successor) or his avarice.

          Perhaps he has a gift for giving spiritual advice, though I never experienced it myself, but nonetheless, whatever deep meditation that might occur around him at Parimal comes from those who are sitting with him.

          God help the Parimal centre if he is active there. To me, he continues to be a flawed character who for some reason a sizeable number of people find charismatic.

          Your foxy statement, Shantam, that “Nothing is enough” needs explanation and expansion.

      • simond says:

        Parmartha, in your experience, as you describe it, Paul Lowe was avaricious etc. and preyed on the rich. I seem to remember that Osho was rather a good one for preying on the rich as well; I guess Paul Lowe must have learned from his Master.

        I have also experience of Paul Lowe, albeit from many years ago, although I occasionally read his blogs. I find him sincere and open to new possibilities even if he is a touch new agey for me.

        As to not abiding him for rejecting Osho, sorry, Parmatha, he just happened to be one of the first to move away from the cult of Osho; which saw him the focus for much misunderstanding. I was hurt too ( how dare he?!) that someone should move away from my safe little club. But life is like that, nothing stays the same, it’s all out of control. Time to let go?

        • Parmartha says:

          People have different tastes: I liked Rajen and Somendra much more than Teertha. But this we can agree to disagree on because it is all a matter of taste.

          Perhaps of more import is not that Teertha Paul Lowe left Sannyas, that is perfectly all right by me. What seemed strange was his ‘denial’ of Osho. Saying on his CV blurbs back from 1986 that he had simply been “spiritual seeking in India” etc., all those years he was absorbing or not absorbing Osho.

          For example. Rajen and Somendra always ‘acknowledge’ Osho as formative in their own growth, etc. and continue to do so.

          Finally, I myself never saw Osho as preying on the rich. The rich came to him, and sometimes quarrelled about who should give, or give what, etc.

          • simond says:

            The mystery of this spiritual life is that things change, appearances deceive, what seems true one day is irrelevant and useles the next. It’s a personal, subjective experience, an unfolding, and it can make no sense at all.

            I’m aware that many sannyasins judged Paul Lowe for not ‘acknowledging’ Osho and I felt the same thing at the time. I was mystified and saddened and believed in ideas of betrayal and loyalty myself. Surely it doesn’t take much to acknowledge your teacher? Who after all gave so much?

            I can’t speak for Paul Lowe, but I suspect his reasoning was as follows: his understanding of the truth is and was at variance with Osho’s in some subtle and key ways. As a new teacher he felt ‘his way’ was the best (all teachers think they’re the best).

            There was no point in referring to his story or to his past teachers because, as he saw it, it was the past and the past is dead.

            In many ways, Paul lived more truthfully than I did or many others did, because he was deeply honest to his personal journey and felt no need to justify his actions. There may have been rather lonely moments with the psychic judgments of so many. Or more likely he felt liberated by shedding the past.

            I have felt the same at times, as I have moved through relationships and through life, so what was once important and to be valued, lost all meaning and the need to refer to it vanished.

            Likewise, friends were dropped, or dropped me, usually with no animosity, but occasionally I might hear of people who knew me saying they felt hurt by my actions.

            The path isn’t easy, Parmartha, and it takes courage to stand alone, to lose friends and to deny the need for continued reference to the past. But this was essentially, as I see it, what Osho taught. He wasn’t more hurt by Paul’s actions, nor need you be.

            P.S:
            I too never saw Osho preying on the rich, but neither do I see Paul Lowe preying either. If he can be of help to Sting, Trudi or anyone else, why should that be a source of judgement from anyone?

            • satyadeva says:

              You may well be right about Paul Lowe’s motivations, simond, but I’ve always suspected another key reason was that he simply didn’t want to be associated in any way with an Osho whose reputation had been tarnished thanks to the Ranch debacle as that would be likely to hinder his new ‘business’, not least, for example, in having to field awkward, energy-consuming questions where his judgment too might be implicated or where he might, perhaps inadvertently or otherwise, implicate Osho.

              Although it’s possibly understandable that he didn’t want to be caught up in the post-Ranch ‘fall-out’ I find it very unsatisfactory that he has never acknowledged the debt he owes to Osho for all those years at his feet. He wouldn’t be where he is (if he’s anywhere worthwhile) without his former master, so for that alone, frankly, he can get stuffed.

              Another thing, btw, about Mr Lowe is that he was, to put it mildly, quite a sexual predator, taking advantage of his ‘ace therapist’ status to have his wicked way with scores of women. “Well, what’s wrong with that? I’m not a hypocrite, I might well do the same in his situation, good luck to him!” would be the standard ‘anything goes in the name of freedom’ sannyasin crypto-cultish response. Yes, quite – except that according to a few women I know he did a lot of damage, which is backed up by Barry Long’s claim that literally “dozens” of women had complained to him of having been mistreated by Lowe, aka Teertha.

              I somehow doubt that Trudie Styler is aware of all that though….

              • simond says:

                Oooh, I say, this is good gossip, Sat!

                That he had his way, as you put it, is the final straw, it’s the perfect allegation to bring down any teacher or politician! Unarguable, take him off and hang him! A sexual predator! And if Barry is quoted to back up the claim, I’m ******. As you all know, I believe everything Bazza tells me. He’s the big fish in my sea.

                And of course I have no idea of it’s true or false. It’s just gossip and innuendo.

                As to his refusal to acknowledge Osho, is his sordid womanising relevant? Did the women by the way, have any say in the matter? We’ll never know, as it’s all just gossip?

                I rather like your suggestion that it might have affected his ‘business’. He wanted to be seen as his own Master, subject to no one. And a little humility and recognition is, to my mind, appropriate: he would have gained more credence by acknowledging his past.

                Nevertheless, he didn’t acknowledge, that was his choice; should we remonstrate and judge him for what he did, years ago? Why is there still a rather anti-Paul Lowe bandwagon based on the past? He’s helped many people since and if you read him now, he is clearly a person of self-knowledge. I also find him somewhat naive and even muddled, but that’s just my opinion.

                I prefer to see that any ‘mistakes’ I have made in the past are exactly that, in the past. There’s no need to punish myself, and no need to seek justice from those who may have offended me or whom I have offended. Let them come to me and I’ll make it right as best as I can.

                Furthermore, I sense that the decision he made was the correct one, it stirred up the faithful sannyasins, it even seemed to disturb Osho to a degree, and that is all good as far as I’m concerned.

                There is business in everything as I see it. Osho had his business and Paul has his. Once we enter this business world, be it a spiritual or otherwise, we all aim to do the best we can for our business. This means dissing the competition if we feel ours is the best!!

                • satyadeva says:

                  Yes, simond, you have a valid point re giving up judging people on their past ‘mistakes’, certainly.

                  Although, despite this, for me the two aspects of Teertha’s behaviour I focused on do leave a bad taste (if you’ll forgive certain associations of this phrase in one such context!) and are enough to put me off any further positive interest in the man. Indeed, either one of them would more than suffice.

                  I don’t agree with your ‘conciliatory’ approach to the not-acknowledging-the master-who-gave-him-so-much issue. Because for me, this borders on the ‘spiritually criminal’, frankly.

                  While re his ‘predatory activities’, you say, “And of course I have no idea of it’s true or false. It’s just gossip and innuendo.”
                  Of course, and neither do I have any first-hand experiential evidence – most people concerned about many ‘disturbing’ issues don’t, but one can reach a reasonable conclusion given reliable evidence, even at second or third-hand.

                  As I said, I personally know several women who’ve either suffered at his hands or know people who did. And, as you well know, BL wasn’t in the habit (unlike Osho) of ‘embroidering the truth’. If he said “dozens”, you can be sure it was dozens.

                  Call me ‘unspiritually judgmental’ or whatever you want, but I really don’t give a damn how great a therapist he might have been or how ‘enlightened’ he may or may not be now; similarly to my response to ‘Osho Rajneesh’, I have good reason to simply not like the man or want anything to do with him.

                • Tan says:

                  What I heard about this bloke was that he refused to receive Osho in his Centre in Italy when Osho was in his ‘world tour’. Gossip or not? Cheers!

  2. shantam prem says:

    Poem inspired by Osho’s books.
    Poem about Paul Lowe.
    Please send him to Turiya’s group, ‘Path of Love’.
    She too will get a poem, a song, a lyric!

  3. frank says:

    “It`s not much of a poem
    and not much of a tune
    But it’s entirely suitable
    for a fallen angel from Pune.

    Like a Moses who`s dropped his pants
    He`s liable to whip out his staff
    But one look at his knobbly knees
    And you`ve just got to laugh.

    It`s not much of a poem
    and not much of a tune
    But what to expect
    from such a pretentious buffoon?”

    Love,
    Frank and Francine,
    UK.

  4. Lokesh says:

    I tend to think that media stars get too much respect in regards what they have to say. Just because you can play great guitar and write a good song does not mean your understanding of life is particularly significant.

    I like Sting, as much as you can like any pop star, because you don’t really know who they are. He has written some great songs and is a real musical talent. So what?

    People are never what they appear to be in the pop world. Last year I had dinner with a world famous rock band, recently nominated best live act in the world. On stage they look and sound like revolutionaries, in reality they behave and speak like investment bankers. To be honest, I found them quite boring and uninspiring people to be around, totally identified with their own selfish trip, wondering how best to invest their millions and not particularly happy even though enjoying massive commercial success, beautiful women, international acclaim and people falling over themselves to open doors for them.

    Sting says, “It is a must for everybody to have a look at his words.” Yes, that is not a bad idea, but in the end Osho himself left behind a legacy contaminated by scandal, corruption, criminal insanity, greed and drug addiction.

    That said, Osho’s words can certainly still inspire. How much benefit it will be to anyone probably rests on the cloth the reader is cut from. For some, a sentence or two can start a blaze; for others, they can read everything Osho said and remain the same stupid person they have always been. Wise men leave behind in books what they cannot take with them. When Osho left he took a lot after a life where he gave a lot.

    • Parmartha says:

      I too like Sting.

      He lives in his Highgate village house, a vicinity not so far from me. He runs on Hampstead Heath, plays tennis in the local park, and somehow behaves ‘normally’. He had a tough working-class background too, which helps him to be sensible sometimes, in an interesting way.

      For example:
      Can’t remember when but he has announced that he will not leave any of his enormous wealth to his six children, they need to swim on their own apparently. That seems not a bad idea for real maturation of offspring.

      He talks of loving Yoga, and its daily practice, and that too seems an appealing thing to say.

      The fact that he has even read Osho seems a good thing also, and THAT HE IS WILLING TO SAY SO, even more.

  5. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    Please, Lokesh,

    What do you mean by this:
    “When Osho left he took a lot after a life where he gave a lot” (especially the first part of the statement of yours)?

    Madhu

  6. shantam prem says:

    This is Lokesh´s favourite dialogue: “Wise men leave behind in books what they cannot take with them.” Maybe he is thinking also, some movie-maker will buy it for some large chunk of money!

    Anyway, what do wise men take with them in their rucksack of Jack Wolfskin?

  7. madhu dagmar frantzen says:

    Hi Swamishanti,

    “But I wrote ‘neever’ not ‘either’.”

    It’s getting more and more confused (to me). May I ask you if you are referring here to a South Korean web game called ´Never´?
    If that would be the case I surely do not belong here as I take you as contributors to an issue given (MOD: WHAT DOES THIS SENTENCE MEAN, PLEASE, MADHU?) Is that naive?

    Otherwise, if not, could you also specify?

    I got it that Lokesh won´t answer my request – my question was obviously far too below his insider status.
    Is it the same happening with you?

    Looking forward….

    Madhu

    MOD:’neever’ MEANT ‘neither’, BUT WRITTEN AS WRONGLY SPOKEN BY SOME ENGLISH PEOPLE. IT’S ALSO UNGRAMMATICAL AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ‘either’ IN THAT SENTENCE.

    AS NOTED AT THE ORIGINAL POST, WE CHANGED IT SO IT COULD BE EASILY UNDERSTOOD BY EVERYONE HERE. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH SOUTH KOREAN COMPUTER GAMES (UNLESS WE’RE MISSING SOMETHING)!

    • swamishanti says:

      Hey, Madhu,

      Wow, “South Korean web game”, that sounds fun. Is that like the ‘Satsang flying-pigs water games’ that I’ve seen advertised on SN?

      Yes, you’ll have to excuse my language as I have lived in many places in my life, some upmarket areas, as well as with some council estate folk in an impoverished area of southern England and I picked up some of the local ‘working class’ lingo, which I like to use sometimes.
      I never went to university, but left after school to go travelling, and work.

      Love to you, there in Deutschland.
      (Sorry, cannot write much cos only able to use mobile to write with and takes too much time).

    • Lokesh says:

      Madhoo says, “I got it that Lokesh won´t answer my request – my question was obviously far too below his insider status.”

      Pretty snidey comment that is way off the mark. Just got my computer back from the doctor. Poor thing had 651 viruses…a record as far as the doctor was concerned and one reason I have not been writing much on SN – no doubt a relief to some.

      Back to Madhoo’s comment: “insider status” sounds very cornball. Status: position of an individual in relation to another or others…gimme a fuckin’ break, Madhoo, you’ve got your head way up your own arse before coming away with such trite shite.

      The reason I did not go into your question was that it was too difficult to make a wordy response and as I said earlier I thought the answer obvious.
      Let’s break it down:
      “When Osho left he took a lot.”
      He must have, because, besides anything else you can think up, so many seemed lost when he died. That has not changed…still hanging onto his books, discourses, vids to add a little meaning to life etc…that is speaking very generally…but look at some of the wallies posting on here with their endless copy and paste Osho quotes – so handy having someone around to supply all the needed answers, even if he happens to be dead. I reckon if Osho was the real deal he would have prefered that we come up with our own answers by now to some of life’s more challenging questions.

      “after a life where he gave a lot”
      The “after” implies that I was referring to him being dead. I am sure that there is no doubt in anyone’s mind on SN that Osho was a giver. Hardly surprising, considering that Osho felt the giver should be thankful, because giving jacks you into life’s main current, helps you know you are alive etc.

      And that is that. Trust that brings some clarity to you, Madhoo. And remember, as the great Bob Marley said, “Every time you point a finger, three fingers point back at you.” And he was not just speaking physically.

      • simond says:

        Lokesh,

        You are a cruel b***** sometimes, your patience runs a little thin with some of us slowcoaches, nitwits and ignoramuses.

        You entertain, inform and educate me with your opinions and insights and I’m never offended, but remember, old man, that it can be very helpful to expand and explain on the points you make – to make it clearer to us slowcoaches.

        If you are reactive and angry about doing so it makes the valid points you make a lot less forceful.

        And you know what? In doing so you might find yourself learning something new that expands you too!

        Some months ago you wrote to me suggesting advice not asked for was a sign of my arrogance. I hope this piece of advice, not requested, I know, will be accepted without too much rancour.

        After all, you remain my hero!

        • Lokesh says:

          Don’t be a hero, be a zero, was a tee-shirt slogan in Poona 1. My above post was neither reactive nor angry. At times Madhoo comes across as plain flakey to me. I can smell the camomile tea brewing in a neat wee kitchen in Munich from here on Ibiza…a very strong coffee kinda place.

          I don’t have a problem with explaining points I make but I felt Madhoo was drawing conclusions that were not founded on anything except her little Miss Moffat attitude.

          My laptop was running at a snail’s pace and for that I am accused of “my question being obviously far too below his insider status”, which is pure bullshit. I am not a snob and do not have a particularly high opinion of myself. Just another fish in the tank, who happens to enjoy calling a spade a spade in no uncertain terms.

  8. simond says:

    Lokesh

    I enjoy your posts as much as the next man, so will you forgive this unrequested, even unwanted advice? I trust you will.

    Some of us are slowcoaches, ignorant even, and so the points that you make are way above our limited understanding. Yes, there are some who quote Osho as if by doing so they no longer need to think for themselves (whatever happened to Arpana, that he should be banned?) (MOD:ARPANA IS NOT BANNED!) and some of us speak English as a second language so don’t always understand your beautiful idioms.

    Others are easily hurt, wounded even, by their past; or stuck in theology or new age nonsense; others follow different masters now, or may believe the moon is made of cheese.

    Your strength is your self-knowledge and a vast expanse of experience and living. You are by and large content in your Elysian paradise, one that You beautifully created. Your wisdom is obvious and I so much enjoy your unique take on all things ‘Sannyas’ or otherwise.

    Perhaps the infestation of the computer virus disturbed you, but you must remember that to explain and expand on your insights may be a useful exercise for yourself as well as others.

    Don’t get too upset by the ignorance of others, stay patient in the face of our mediocrity and our busy minds. Trust, that to explain in more detail will allow us to understand you better and to learn from you as well.

    I need you clear and back to your humble human self!

    • Lokesh says:

      Sweet post, Simond. Thing is, I see a lot of good posts on here from regular SN bloggers. Who said you can’t learn an old dog new tricks? Once in a while a post appears that stays with me, because there are some intelligent and humorous posts that make me pause and reflect and of course have a good laugh.

      I love Yogi’s offerings. Yes, sometimes a bit ‘stuck record’ but Yogi gets a lot of laughs from me and I appreciate his efforts to keep it non-serious and playful, while getting some valid points across in between the lines.

      Same goes for some of the other contributors. For me it is good clean fun. If I get too serious when writing something I immediately erase it.

  9. shantam prem says:

    Other week, I was talking with a friend when she mentioned about a Buddhist monk who will lead a 3 years retreat. In surprise, I asked, “Will there be people in 3 years Buddhist retreat?”

    I mean Buddhist retreats are not live, love, laughter kind of fun meditations. Hours of silence, limited food and less sleep, no romance, no flirtation, no girl/boy friend.

    After the departure of Osho, the managerial priests think busy people have no time to invest in a long-term meditation, reality is different. Therefore 100, 200 metres of race is promoted as marathon, and wonder is, still roads are empty. There are not enough people to buy cheap promises.

    Humanity in a way has matured a lot.

    • satyadeva says:

      But as you, Shantam, have no interest in doing either a Sannyas-style ‘retreat’/ group/ course or a Buddhist ‘retreat’, or indeed, anything else that requires any degree of ‘self-inquiry’, your post is essentially without substance or value. It is, like so much of your output here, just a load of mentalised hot air.

    • Lokesh says:

      Chudo, I find your constant relating to humanity a bit twee. I don’t expect a coherent response from you but just in case you care to give one: What do you mean by “Humanity in a way has matured a lot”? In which way? To what time in the past are you referring to in relation to becoming more mature?

      I don’t think humanity is maturing at all. Modern man’s current fascination with technological toys does not look very mature. Nothing like a smartphone for making someone look utterly distracted and stupid.

      • shantam prem says:

        “Humanity in a way has matured a lot.”
        First of all, you cannot hook people because you come from South India and call yourself Avatara.
        How many people will buy such a crap unless some kind of screw is loose?

        “Humanity in a way has matured a lot.”
        You cannot sell a guru after His death, even there are hundreds of books.

        Osho was well aware about this. The system he left behind was the most suited one for the contemporary western mindset. Add anything or deduct anything and it is like Banta Singh wants to open a window in the plane for the fresh air!

      • shantam prem says:

        “I don’t think humanity is maturing at all. Modern man’s current fascination with technological toys does not look very mature”

        Humanity is not mature.
        It smokes Marlboro and does not read notes of a European about some Indian Beeri wala.
        Humanity is not maturing, because none of them spends seven years around an Indian Master.
        Humanity is not mature, because they don´t live in Ibiza.
        Lokesh, it costs nothing to drop one´s prejudiced mind.

        Humanity is maturing because Evolution does not stop.

        • satyadeva says:

          All total garbage, Shantam, as the only real such question to ask oneself is “Am I maturing?”, ie free or consciously becoming free from all kinds of mental and emotional crap? The rest is just idle speculation, mentalised hot air, as I said last night.

          As for “humanity”, well, perhaps the only ‘becoming’ going on there is becoming ever closer to sliding down into the lower realms of Hell-Fire and Damnation, via its most sophisticated technology, greed and spiritual ignorance…More idle speculation again, but nonetheless, enormously gratifying, eh?!

  10. simond says:

    Apropos of nothing, but a good example of the difference between ‘reality’ and what we think!

  11. shantam prem says:

    Just seen a photo news about Lindsay Lohan carrying Koran.
    A thought came about imaginary reaction of sannyasins if it was some Osho book. There would have been jumping from the rooftops, press release and some string in Oshonews and so on.

    One of the reasons for Sannyas downfall is too much importance given to Osho´s words, the human factor is totally forgotten.

    • satyadeva says:

      Frankly, I’d have thought it’s rather a case of ‘relief all round’ that this very minor so-called ‘celebrity’ air-head hasn’t been snapped carrying an Osho book!

      And what exactly do you mean by “the human factor”, Shantam? Apart from (in your dreams) plenty of potential opportunities for sex with European women, of course….

    • simond says:

      Shantam Prem, how on earth is anyone going to find out anything about Osho if they don’t read his books?

      After all, there are many who never met him, who have been born since he died. What you mean about the “human factor” is a total mystery to me.

      As for Lindsay Lohan reading the Koran, it appears the ‘certainty’ Islam offers is welcome to some people. You would make a good Muslim yourself, I wonder why you’ve never considered it?

    • swami anand anubodh says:

      Lindsay Lohan update…

  12. shantam prem says:

    Simond, when I write spontaneously it is out of my free will. It is a joy to create sentences out of thoughts. Whether one person reads them or hundred is enough. I have no desire to know who they are.

    But if someone wants to communicate on the basis of those, I am happy to tailor-make answers for such person.

    Therefore it is important to know such person a bit more: age, life experience, marital and family status and facial profile.
    Let me know who you are through your photo (latest).

    If there is some kind of hesitation about it, contemplate who is the right candidate to be next Muslim, and that too from Iraq and Syria!

    • satyadeva says:

      “Simond, when I write spontaneously it is out of my free will. It is a joy to create sentences out of thoughts.”

      That’s a significant part of the problem, Shantam: You confuse literary spontaneity with intelligence, giving it a value that it doesn’t necessarily deserve, especially when the writer tends to be lazy, muddle-headed and, almost invariably, plain ‘wrong’!

      For you, it might be “a joy”, a great turn-on; for your readers, it might well be depressing, a great turn-off, or, at best, simply laughably foolish nonsense.

  13. simond says:

    Shamtam Prem,
    I didn’t realise this was a dating site? My personal information is as follows:
    Name: Simon d
    Residence: England
    Life experience: Please read my previous correspondence for any hints
    Marital Status: Happily relating
    Family status: None in my family
    Facial profile: Depends on the day

    My preference is to deal with things in as factual a way as possible. As for personal details, they remain irrelevant unless I choose to divulge them.

    Of course, if you wish to share a picture of yourself please feel free to do so.

    Regards.

  14. Tan says:

    Thanks for sharing this information, my dearest Punjabi. The Europeans are taking the business, indeed. Some go to Brazil around the rain forests or the middle of the country. They are building a town (this one is German).

    They are all right, mind-blowing and very charismatic, but none of them has the magic of Osho, there is something missing. Impossible for somebody who truly was involved with Osho to be happy around them. Cheers!

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