text from Swami Anand Arun, Osho Tapoban
From one who sold tea as a boy at the railway station, the super sonic rise of Narendra Modi today as the 14th Indian Prime Minister has created a worldwide wave in global politics. An alliance government is always unstable and is a hindrance on the path of development. The landslide victory of the BJP in the 2014 General Elections has eliminated these constraints and has given birth to a stable and strong Modi government. This has opened new prospects for India to become the next decisive superpowers of the world.
Usually, most of the election results are influenced by negative voting; frustrated by the ruling party, people cast thier votes in favor of the opposition with the hope of getting a better government. We have observed a similar situation here in Nepal as well. However, the outcome of this year’s Indian General Elections is a consequence of positive voting, people have voted for Modi’s credentials as a leader. On the backdrop of his astounding achievements in Gujarat, people have promoted him to Delhi.
An honest leader is a rare find in today’s politics and to find honesty combined with foresight, sharp intellegence, wisdom, courage and spirituality is even rarer. An honest leader without the strong willpower to materialize the development manifesto and the ability to take bold decsions is of no use. A leadership that can produce tangible outcomes is what is needed today and Modi is an alive version of this rare combination. As much as he is honest he is equally hardworking, with his roots firmly grounded in the soil of the liberal Hindu traditions, his wings embrace the gifts of science and modern technology.
Singapore’s first prime minister, Lee Kuan Yew had the vision and foresight to transform Asia into Europe, who executed his dream through his uncompromising leadership. Inspired by the same economic model, Den Xiao Ping and Dr. Mathir Mohammed followed suit and transformed China and Malaysia.With their open door policy of economy and disciplined politics a new model of development got established in Asia. Similarly with a strong economic framework and manifesto as the one carried by Modi, India’s prosperous future is unavoidable with its influence felt in the whole of Asia and specially in South Asia.
After the Modi-revolution in Gujarat, the state has gone through an economic boom and I have been following him since then. Narendra Modi is a synthesis of some rare qualities which are usually not found in a political leader. Many feathers adorn his cap. Apart from being an efficient administrator, Modi is a practical leader, a great orator and a man with humility and a soft heart. His sociable nature makes it easy for him to befriend anybody who comes in his contact. Modi is a merger of all the ideal qualities of a spiritual yogi and today the reigns of the world’s largest democracy has come into the hands of such a man. Recently during an interview when asked if he was religious, Modi gave an answer that reflects Osho’s teachings, he replied, “I am not religious, I am a fully spiritual person, I don’t believe in one religion, my turst is in spirituality.”
Modi is a seasoned Yoga practitioner and follows a one hour daily yoga routine while his sleep time is limited to only four hours. Since last forty years despite of his frequent travels and political trips, Modi keeps an unfailed discipline of 10 days fast that he practises two times in a year. Modi is a staunch vegetarian who has never indulged in any kind of intoxications. Except Mahatma Gandhi, I have never seen such a discipline in any political leader. Modi is much more of a nationalist and a more practical, modern and foresighted leader than Gandhijee himself. I am a worshipper of Gandhijee as a person but as a leader his political vision was impratical. I don’t support his naive economic policy and his anti-technology and self-torturing lifestyle. Due to the lack of foresightedness in Gandhijee, India suffered partition and could not rise as it’s contemporaries for many years.
A country is never made by the mob or a party, it is moulded by the willpower of one.The open door economy of Ping created the modern China, the uncompromising policy of Nitish Kumar transformed Bihar and in similar ways Lee Kuan Yu changed Singapore, Dr. Mahathir created Malaysia and Modi transformed the face of Gujarat. The BJP heads the government in many states of India, but none have accelerated like Gujarat. In groups, there are more discussion and disputes and less development; party politics and personal motives shadow development issues. Narendra Modi prioritized economic development over party disputes and changed the face of Gujarat. The recent unvieling of Modi’s 5-Ts – talent, tradition, tourism, trade and technology as a framework for India’s development with the slogan, “one India great India.” articulates his priorities and his vision for a proseperous India.
Narendra Modi is a brilliant fusion of modernism and the essence of the vast Hindu philosophy.This has never been seen in any past leaders of India. Gandhijee was a religious man but he lacked the respect for modernism. Similarly Nehru was an ardent supporter of modernization but he lacked the subtle understanding of Indian mysticism and spirituality. Modi is an exception in this case. Modi, who is an ardent gadget lover, is active on social network sites and keeps himself fully updated about world affairs, claims spiritual nirvana or moksha as his ultimate goal in life. At a very young age, a seventeen year old Modi abandoned his worldly ties and arrived at the Ramkrishna Ashram in Belurmath to fulfill his long cherished desire to become a renunciate. From there he travelled to Garudchatti near Kedarnath and practised meditation for two years. Recently when asked about why he had wasted the two most formative years of his life wandering in the Himalayas, Modi had replied, “Those were the finest years of my life and I have not lost anything, I have only gained from it and someday when I retire from politics I will again go back to the refuge of the Himalayas and meditate at the bank of Ganges.” Modi is a progressive Yogi whose advisory board consists of a large group of the best IIM and IIT graduates in the country. In my opinion he symolizes Osho’s concept of the new man, ‘Zorba the Buddha’.
A great leader gives life to the sleeping mass and helps them to awake and realize their own potential and power. He revives confidence, hope and courage in the people and unites them with a mutual dream of a progressive nation. In this year’s general election Modi revived the long forgotten dignity of India. He arose a new hope that the good days have come and the people voiced along with his slogan. Today he has inspirited 125 crores of people with the confidence and hope of a prosperous and a powerful India. This is what I call the Modi Magic.
Modi’s success bears a testimony to the fact that today only a leader who can deliver economic growth can succeed. The days of petty politics in the name of racism, ethnicity and language are gone. It is high time that the dream merchants of communism also took this into account. Despite of an opposition party ruling the central government, Modi trasformed Gujarat into Europe. In order to misrepresent his image as an extremist Hindu leader and to deprive him of the 20% of Muslim votes, a well-planned defamation propoganda was raised against him because of which the American government also denied him visa for a long time. But today the Muslim leaders themselves are praising Modi’s delivery of security, employment and education to the Muslim community and it’s women and youth in Gujarat. Even states like Bihar and UP where Muslim votes play a decisive role have not been able to deliver these to its people. Modi has been victorious even in those areas where Muslims are in majority and it seems that The American Government is now in a hurry to welcome him.
Modi takes his inspiration from Swami Vivekanand and other Indian mystics. Just before the elections, Modi had reached the Ramkrishna ashram in Belurmath and had expressed his desire to meditate in Swamijee’s room. The room that is usually kept closed was opened and Modi meditated there for 25 minutes. Today I see Vivekanand’s grace, charisma and his dream for a prosperous India in Narendra Modi. In Modi’s success lies the success of the vastness of the non-communal and liberal Hindu spirituality.
With Modi’s rise and success a hope has arisen that its seismic influence will also be felt in Nepal. Nepalese leaders have a bad habit of accusing India when in Nepal and then fully surrendering to Indian leaders while in Delhi. This culture has drowned Nepal into deeper poverty. If only Nepalese leaders would prioritize economic agenda and learn from this lesson of India’s transformation that has upshooted from an economic revolution, we would also be able to say, “the good days have come. “
Rise of Narendra Modi is an iconic phenomenon.
As share markets are the barometer of modern world, people are expecting a bull run during next five years.
As real life is quite often like a chess game, next five years will show how many promises were fulfilled in a country which hosts world´s one fifth population.
Osho was uniting the world, His manager disciples are hell-bent to go for divisive politics. If Modi influence brings some sense of relief to the drought-hit Osho´s work, it will be amazing. He is the man to teach how to replace toxic politics with progressive politics.
Well, well, well…
at the sniff of a bit of power, all these hard-core neo-Hindu Oshi`ites are coming out of their fascist closet.
There`s a surprise!
Very well written.
What a JOKER again on the UK website table!
I am glad you hold the line, Frank.
Me – here – just in a kind of outburst:
please give me a break with this kind of stuff!
But with a joker that’s not enough of a response, is it?
Today I have been in the city marketplace; the city is celebrating its birthday.
When I met a Pinochio figure standing with his long nose and clownesque face
I gave him a big tip; he looked very tired when we came close.
People are quite miserly these days – they want to be entertained but don´t want to give
and we shook hands
and that was beautiful.
I didn´t dare to invite him for dinner – but just now I wish him very well for the time he visits our city – he is a vagabond.
Me too, in a way, although I am always here.
Have a nice evening, Frank.
Madhu
Indian Politician?
Sure to be as straight as a die.
They all are.
Now we know why Swami Arun has a brown nose.
‘This has opened new prospects for India to become the next decisive superpower of the world.’ Ehm….er….what?
“In my opinion he symbolises Osho’s concept of the new man, ‘Zorba the Buddha’.”
What, through doing an hour of yoga every day, sleeping 4 hours a night (like Maggie Thatcher) and never having taken drink or drugs?
I have my doubts, sounds rather puritanical to me. Can’t see him getting on that well with Zorba somehow…
What a strange article. Perhaps Arun has an agenda to make Osho even more ‘respectable’ in India, to perhaps emulate the Nepalese model, as far as possible.
As for saying, Modi has “the grace and charisma of Vivekananda”, well, maybe such flattery gets you, if not “everywhere”, then potentially pretty far in oh-so-spiritual, political India….
SD,
You are right in saying, “What a strange article”.
It may have some explanatory power for you to know this article first appeared in the Nepalese ‘National Daily Annapurna Post.’
It was forwarded from Tapoban to us in the English translation, as it probably has been to many sannyas networks, etc.
If it is unfitting for Sannyas News, why the editors chose at the first place?
People living in UK won´t find any relevance with their life.
Publish some Ramesh Balsekar. Such imported thoughts have some demand in a spiritually starving land.
The life of a sannyasin is universal, and when properly understood, is not of any country, place or time.
I agree, it is strange.
I hope people in UK and neighbour countries are different than the three or four regular oldies on this site.
Most of the time they are not only snobbish but downright stupid.
World really cannot rely upon such crappies.
I hope people in India and neighbour countries are different than the oldie Shantam who regularly posts on this site.
He is not only snobbish but downright stupid.
World really cannot rely upon such a crappie.
Any sannyasin worth his or her salt is a world citizen, and understands that all these lines on the maps are just lines in the sand, blown this way and that.
This support of Hindu nationalist parties by those who want to take over the Pune Resort is really a dangerous development. The ‘ashram’ there was always an ‘international’ campus, and should remain so, whoever is in charge.
Perhaps Arun senses potential danger to the whole future of not only Pune but all the Indian Osho places, so is attempting to nullify it by writing this nonsense.
Maybe under this new government things might get a bit tricky over there….
“Swami-ji what is 300-120?”
“Have you not read any of Master´s books? He has always taught us addition.”, replied Swami-ji from UK.
The comments of these western baboons at Sannyanews shows that they have abused the freedom that Osho compassionately bestowed on them! Arun is perfectly correct!
India will certainly become the superpower of the world!
Arun speaks the truth of a newly crowned yogi-king when he says: “A country is never made of the mob or party, but the willpower of one man”
Do not remain part of the mob, but hurl yourselves in unison at the feet of the wise ones!
The depraved western mind that sleeps more than 4 hours a night, smokes and takes intoxicants, cannot understand the way of true yogis like Arun and Narendra Modi and will manufacture all kinds of American- sponsored lies about massacres in Gujurat in 2002 . In fact, Muslims have never had it so good as when they are subjected to the power of liberal-based, right-wing Hinduism.
The story that Modi lied about his marriage is irrelevant.
Remember the words of our master Osho:
“The lie of the awakened one is more true than the truth of the unawakened one”!
But none of this will stop India reclaiming its glorious Aryan heritage where the willpower of one man carries the cheering unconscious masses to their destiny with the force of enlightenment!
And woe betide those fools who cannot or will not surrender!
They will be burnt on the burning ghats of history!
Jai ! Jai!
Hari Om!
Yahoo!
Osho!
You are joking, aren’t you?
Arun in his last missive proclaimed the “regime” at the resort to be “criminals”.
On the other hand, Modi, clearly implicated in genocide and ethnic cleansing, is portrayed, seemimgly completely irony-free, as “Zorba the Buddha” and a hero for the modern age and all-round nice guy!
At best, Arun is just trying to lick hard-core Hindu ass a way of getting some favours.
At worst, he believes the rubbish that he is writing.
In which case, he is, imo, a sick man.
Or he’s schizoid.
Double standards.
Left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing,
and vice versa.
The Contradiction you note, Frank, is very apposite. As an Editorial Board we have noted it. Is there any Arunite out there who can answer this?
For information, Osho himself never liked the Hindu Nationalists of any persuasion. He himself had a knife thrown at him during lecture by an extreme Hindu Nationalist in the Pune One period.
Osho lampooned the leader of that party and Prime Minister at the time, Moraji Desai, mercilessly in the seventies. As we remember, Desai was also a bit of a yoga type, who swore by drinking his own urine…which he did daily.
Osho also thought that Gandhi himself was a fraud, and said so on many occasions, though he did for some reason like Mrs Gandhi and her party, which we think was the party that has just been defeated.
It would be wonderful to be proven wrong and in the coming years see that Modi really is a new kind of politician: honest, forward-thinking and spiritual.
But I can not help thinking about all the projections many people (including Heeren) had on Obama and how sad and ugly it all has turned out.
And it should give rise for some hesitation that one of his new ministers claims about rape that “sometimes it’s right”. And that as a comment to a case where two 15 y.o. girls were gang-raped and later committed suicide. https://secure.avaaz.org/en/womanifesto_modi_rb_loc/?bLBPcbb&v=41169
It would also be wonderful to love Swami Arun and see him as the saviour of sannyas and the vision of Osho, but….
There can never be a new kind of politician, they are all mediocrities, as Osho reminded us..
“There can never be a new kind of politician, they are all mediocrities, as Osho reminded us”…
Therefore best way is to find His disciples to run the world, they will run it exactly with same tenacity as they are running their organisations.
After all, meditative people are different, better loving, compassionate, intelligent, wise and DICK HEADS!
Thanks, Shantam, that’s the funniest comment so far today!
Yes, Shantam, absolutely correct!
Disciples must run the world!
But only the correct ones as understood by the yogi-kings of mighty Bharat!
And must use the means necessary in the realpolitik of India, not just parroting Osho’s opinions about politicians!
This is the whole vision of Osho/Modi/Arun and NOW is the time to execute it!
Not only must the Anglo-Saxon baboons be stripped of their authority, the Ashram must be spiritually cleansed of all those intoxicated abusers of freedom!
Only those who voluntarily agree of their own free will and understanding to wear Orange and Mala and pledge allegiance to Swami Arun, The Secret Seven heroes from behind the closed door, and Shri Modi, will be allowed into the inner sanctum!
The bar will be closed!
Intoxication will be a thing of the past!
Come,Shantambhai!
Waste no more time in, as you so well put it, “the spiritually starving lands of the west”!
Starve no more!
The obvious depth of your political vision is wasted in the land of the fools!
Return and fulfil your destiny in the land which now takes huge steps every day to becoming not only a superpower but THE spiritual super-power.
It is in your hands!
Jai Hind!
Yahoo!
Hari Om!
Osho!
Very funny!
Human unconscious tendency to salute rising sun, that is what I see in Modi praise. His very style of speaking shows that he is an arrogant egoist person, sometimes pretending to be humble. As far my observation, he is not prime minister material.
To be successful chief minister doesn’t mean much, Gujarat’s success is not only due to Modi but Gujarat has always been a vibrant state, it is the spirit of Gujarat that makes it different from other Indian states.
His team of fanatic jokers soon will show their real face. I will be happy if prediction of Hindu visionary Swami Arun proves positive.
Do they have internet in India?
Let me say it: Osho´s ashram under His watchful eyes was better run than democracies, as it was meritocracy. It was generating money in a capitalist way but distribution was one step ahead, one can call it Compassionate Capitalism.
Therefore Osho has all the rights to criticise politicians, religions and socio-psychological pundits.
We can repeat his words, his satirical statements about priests and politicians, but have we really deserved them or we are the modified Talibans (mis)quoting our holy words?
I will be happy if the Brahmins of this site offer the solution to run their Alma Mater in a more humane and successful way rather than bullshitting about Modi, Hindus, Arun and such.
“Politics is basically ambition. Politics is basically wrong because ambition is wrong. You are not to become somebody, says religion, you are already. You are not to become powerful – you are already. You are extensions of God. You need not be worried about being powerful and being somebody on a throne; those are all stupid games, childish, very juvenile, immature. And you cannot find more immature people than politicians.
In fact, in a better world, politicians will be kept in madhouses, and mad people will be allowed to move into the world. Those mad people have not done anything wrong. They may be a little off the track but they have not been harmful. Politicians are dangerously mad people, tremendously dangerous.”
Osho,
Ancient Music in the Pines
Chapter #8
Chapter title: Three Mysteries
This is a note for Arpana:
I just experienced a quite spooky event with the APPLE administration of my private computer meeting C.G.Jung, whom I am very fond of.
So I have been able to have a glimpse of that book, not only like in the long TV demonstration quite a while ago -
but could come a little bit closer
and then – like it came up – it also vanished again.
(C.G. Jung would have loved that? I don´t know…
I don´t know either what he would have said about our `brave new computer world´ and its users…Especially the term ‘server’ – such a nice word, isn´t it?)
I take it how it is, but want to send you a thank you, Arpana, as I needed some uplifting from the football and other kind of worlds in our mental asylums.
Madhu
(MOD: MADHU, AMADIS HAS REPLIED TO YOU AT Spiritual Therapy – A Role in Self-Realisation TOPIC)
Madhu,
If you have a tablet, the book looks wonderful on a tablet.
Only an idiot Pandit will post Osho quotations without knowing the relevance, without knowing the full context of life.
People like Arpana think by copy/pasting Osho words against politicians, he has already jumped into the higher realms.
Typical Brahmin mistake of colour blindness.
“From the very beginning I had sent people around the world to look for other places. I was not absolutely dependent on India. My whole life’s experience is that you cannot be dependent on Indian politicians. They are the worst creed in the whole world. There are politicians and politicians…they are all third rate. But nobody can beat the Indian politicians.”
Osho
The Last Testament, Vol 5
Chapter #10
Chapter title: None
Most relevant quote, Arps. Really quite incredible how there now exist politically- orientated sannyasins, when Osho said what he said about politicians, Indian ones in particular. For me, they are a bunch of lost sheep bleating out their self-righteous bollocks. A sure sign that mainstream sannyas has gone down the photon condenser tubes.
El Chudo is in his element here…pure bullshit. He says, “It was generating money in a capitalist way but distribution was one step ahead.” Make what you want of it but only the Chud understands it.
Or take the following: “After all, meditative people are different, better loving, compassionate, intelligent, wise and DICK HEADS!” He exists in a very negative space going by that. One might say he has lost the plot, but that is not true as he never had a plot in the first place. Utterly lost in negative space.
Shantam chuddy filler is a Sikh chauvinist,
an Indian chauvinist.
Two young girls were hanged from a tree after being gang-raped in the fields outside their home in India.
A state minister from Prime Minister Modi’s ruling party was asked to comment on the atrocity. His response? Rape “is a social crime…sometimes it’s right, sometimes it’s wrong.”
Coronation of a Yogi? Such rubbish. This is just right wing anti-women medieval crap. For sannyasins to be praising Modi is absolutely ridiculous. Had Modi any real guts he would have sacked his minister immediately. And, in any case, why did he appoint such a man?
Arun has exposed himself as an empire builder, and it
occurs to me, he is sucking up to Modi because
he sees him as a potential source of help to extend his empire,
by getting rid of Jayesh and Amrito.
Maybe so, Arpana. He certainly seems to want him for something….
Good point, Arps.
Certainly some Arun political cunning involved. Otherwise why spend time writing such rubbish, in direct contradiction to everything his Master, Osho, taught about Hindu nationalism?
It’s all good enlightentertainment tho’, isn`t it?
Where else could you find
crowning yogis
cloning yogis
and
clowning yogis!
All in one place?
Not to mention more banana skins than you can shake a stick at!
Sannyas News…
supreme dharma holders in the
Mahakashyapasyougoalong lineage.
Live long and prosper!
So true, Frank. That’s brightened up my morning, reckon I might even leave out the Prozac today…
(Expect Shantam might need a double dose though)….
Blind went for meditation and thought with the power of third eye, they will be able to enjoy the colourful world around.
In between, their WAGs will clear the flat for them. Many are doing it too.
Who says blinds can not get company and that too the dedicated one?
Chauvinism, in its original meaning, is an exaggerated patriotism and a belligerent belief in national superiority and glory. Its eponym is a seemingly apocryphal French soldier, Nicolas Chauvin, who was badly wounded in the Napoleonic wars. He received a pension for his injuries but it was not enough to live on. After Napoleon abdicated, Chauvin was a fanatical Bonapartist despite the unpopularity of this view in Bourbon Restoration France. His single-minded blind devotion to his cause, despite neglect by his faction and harassment by its enemies, started the use of the term.
By extension, it has come to include an extreme and unreasoning partisanship on behalf of any group to which one belongs, especially when the partisanship includes malice and hatred towards rival groups. Jingoism is the British parallel form of this French word, but its meaning has not expanded beyond nationalism in the same way that the word chauvinism has.
It must be the googly from Existence: “People who use and publish Osho´s words are indulging into worst kind of politics.”
Politics is basically a science of policy-making. Those who dropped before high school and became sannyasins in bulk, Political Science is a valid subject in almost all the major universities around.
You surely know, Shantam, that most sannyasins weren’t school drop-outs, very many are university graduates. In my course, for example, I did a year of Politics, while I happen to know that the co-founder of SN has a degree in Politics, Philosophy and Economics.
Whether politics is an exact ‘science’, of course, is highly questionable, some might even say, highly laughable. Just take a look at it all – not ‘rocket science’, is it?!
Not just a degree in PPE, SD,
but from the London School of Economics,
still the most prestigious place in the world for those who want to study ‘politics’.
It certainly left me with an eye to seeing through ‘politicians’ and politics.
A number of my fellow students from all those decades ago now rule African countries, and others people the corridors of the House of Commons, and live out their ego-filled lives there.
Again, the as-yet uncrowned yogi, Swami Shantam, one speaks the truth!
Namaste! I salute the God in you!
It is only a matter of time until you are raised onto the dais with men of a similar understanding of spiritual life, such as Arun and Modi!
Shantam, of course politics must be embraced, not by DICKHEAD MEDITATORS and high-school dropouts but by intelligent, educated university degree holders and true pandits like your good self!
Politics is a science, like the ancient Vedic science of starsigns of which you are also an advanced exponent!
Someone must bring relief to Osho’s drought-hit movement, as you have clearly stated, bhai, and if a mass murderer, genocidist and progressive supporter of men`s liberal Hindu right to rape must be the man to replace toxic politics with progressive politics, then anyone who has an understanding of science must say YES!
And let us, as exhorted by the great Osho-neo-Hindu revivalist,
Arun, who is a 21st century Vivekananda, do some ‘Modi Magic’!
One India! Great India!
Hari Om!
Yahoo!
Modi!
Arun!
Osho!
Jai Anand Yogi!
Hari Om, Shantam, your House is on Fire (not to mention your Behind)!
And you are merely Fiddling, while Pune Ashram and Whole Sannyas burns!
Quick, Quicker, Quickety-Quick, Hari Om!
hmmmmmmmm……, Frank, hmmmmmmmm……
SD, this I know quite well that most of the sannyasins were not high school drop-outs. Factually speaking, ‘Sannyasins from the West were my inspiration.’
I remember decades ago, from the balcony of a friend´s flat in Germany, I wrote a letter to my parents, “I don´t want to be like those Indians who go to the West to earn money, I want to be like westerns who come to India in search for truth.”
With time, one thing has become clear, “Nice persons sitting in a nice cab discussing nicer things of life have no idea how to change the punctured tyres.”
It is SO ROTTEN to go on using Osho´s words to condemn politicians, whereas their own organisation is suffering from the effects of bad politics!
Has Osho Commune International aka Osho Resorts International lost its plot because of Obama and Modi, or it is the internal shit?
Audacity too must have some kind of limit!
Really, when I read that cheeky Scot from Ibiza, it feels like wishing Scotland should not get freedom from Great Britain.
Yet re the future of the Pune ashram, Shantam, in a way one can also simply see it as ‘much ado about nothing’ (or nothing very much) – unless one happens to be someone who identifies ‘the spiritual path’ with visiting a particular ‘holy’ place, a specific geographical location, inevitably subject to the wear and tear of the sands and storms of time, not to mention any adverse prevailing socio-political winds.
Understandable to be ‘attached’ to such a place, where one spent so much significant time, but…maybe a more valuable lesson still waiting to be learned is to see and accept that everything changes and passes, to let go of the past, finally…Have a taste of Death, a sort of ‘rehearsal’ for later on (or even today, or Now!)….
Apart from that, what is there to worry about? Books, videos, cd’s can still be distributed, other centres still exist, for those who wish to take part in their programmes.
Or are you telling us and yourself that Osho is confined, or ‘mainly’ confined, to just one place? Why imprison him there, if he’s now part of Life Itself? Are you some sort of earthbound would-be Cosmic Jailer?!!
But Shantam , if you “know quite well that most of the sannyasins were not high-school drop-outs”, then why did you write, “Those who dropped before high school and became sannyasins in bulk”?
I wonder whether this knowing one thing yet writing another is a characteristic of your contributions here?
One article is brewing in my brain to use the memory bank. Its title is,
‘From Buddha Hall to Osho Auditorium, Impressions from the Behind.’
I hope through spontaneous writing, I can submit to editors for refining the language and grammar.
MOD: AT YOUR SERVICE, SHANTAM! ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE THAT TITLE, SOME MIGHT GET THE ‘WRONG IDEA’ (IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN).
“From Buddha Hall to Osho Auditorium…Impressions from the Behind”, by Shantam.
I literally fell off my chair when I read that…
Thanks, man, now I can go out and face the rest of the day with a smile on my face and a song in my heart.
Brilliant!
Absolutelely priceless!
El Chudo claims to have a brain, but it is actually a broken cement mixer he is referring to. ‘Impressions from the Behind’ is basically a confirmation of what is obvious in that all of his gaseous comments are coming from the very constipated behind.
“From Buddha Hall to Osho Auditorium…Impressions from the Behind”, by Shantam.
Those who are enjoying the joke on my cost, you are cordially invited for a cup of chai!
Sure – as long as I can face you at all times, Shantam?!
The gift of your derriere is very much appreciated in this string today, Mr Shantam.
Quite right.
And it is with great anticipation we await the spiritual classic,
‘Osho…Impressions from the Behind’…
Indeed, rumour has it that the ass-ended master himself has some follow-up articles in the pipeline, so to speak:
‘The Thoughts of Bum Shankar’
‘Thou Art Prat’
and
‘Shri Shantam: Lord of the Full Moon’.
‘Autobiography of a Chuddie’.
Relax everyone…the fate of Osho’s legacy has finally been decided….
Ironic to see trumpet-blowing of rise of BJP, for whom Osho had a very interesting description. “Hindu fascists” / “Hindu chauvinists” were the exact words used by Osho to describe Jan Sangh of those days (Now renamed BJP).
On Morarji Desai & his alliance partner – Jan Sangh
Book Name: Philosophia Perennis, Vol 1
“The real power is not that of Morarji Desai: the real power is in the hands of the Hindu fascists of this country. Morarji Desai said when he punished Indira Gandhi, expelled her from the parliament and imprisoned her, he said, “Now people can know it, now it is proved, that I am not an impotent person. I can do things.”
But in fact it proves just the contrary: it simply proves he is impotent. He is impotent against the fascist forces that are working behind him. He is just a facade; the real forces are in the hands of Hindu fascists. ”
Link – http://www.baytallaah.com/osholibrary/reader.php?endpos=385002&page=176&book=Philosophia%20Perennis,%20Vol%201
Book Name: The Secret of Secrets, Vol 1
“So send some educated people, not your M.P.s — they won’t understand a thing — and then decide. You are also invited, Mr. Advani.
And what kind of democracy is this? You came to power in the name of democracy. Even Indira did not dare to interfere with my work. And you are democrats…? Nothing but Hindu chauvinists!”
Link – http://www.baytallaah.com/osholibrary/reader.php?endpos=541835&page=247&book=The%20Secret%20of%20Secrets,%20Vol%201
Book Name: The Secret of Secrets, Vol 1
“And one thing more. These are the people, Advani and company, who created the climate in which this man, Mahatma Gandhi, was murdered — these Hindu chauvinists. But what kind of hypocrisy is this? Now they pay tribute and call him Father of the Nation. And these are the murderers; they created the climate in the country to murder that man. And now they worship him. In his name now they are in power.
India has many currents. And it is beautiful. It is not a monolith, that’s why it is beautiful. It is a rainbow, it has all the colours. But the Hindu chauvinist cannot tolerate it. He starts trying to make Hinduism also as narrow as he is narrow. These are the ideas in their minds. These ideas are creating trouble for them.”
link – http://www.baytallaah.com/osholibrary/reader.php?endpos=544036&page=248&book=The%20Secret%20of%20Secrets,%20Vol%201
On the danger of a government formed by alliance with Jan Sangh:
Book Name: The Secret of Secrets, Vol 1
“And remember also: India is not a small country, it is a vast continent. It is not one tradition, it is many traditions. But the people who are in power now are basically Hindu chauvinists. A very wrong kind of person has come to power. Their whole idea is of a very narrow Hinduism – so narrow that it does not even contain the whole current of Hinduism.”
http://www.baytallaah.com/osholibrary/reader.php?page=244&book=The%20Secret%20of%20Secrets,%20Vol%201
Thanks, Guarav, for that contribution.
Makes the recent praise of the Hindu Nationalist leader by Arun, even more (as SD has rightly used the word), “strange”.
One more Osho quote on alliance of Morarji Desai & Jan Sangh :
Book Name: Unio Mystica, Vol 1
“A strange phenomenon has happened in India, very strange. Morarji Desai is a follower of Mahatma Gandhi, and is in power through the help of those who murdered Mahatma Gandhi. Strange bedfellows! But when it is a question of life and death, who cares about ideologies?”
Link – http://www.baytallaah.com/osholibrary/reader.php?endpos=295098&page=135&book=Unio%20Mystica,%20Vol%201
A friend alerted me to the comments on Arun’s facebook where the warped sentiments of this article are to be found.
9/10 comments slavishly praise Arun’s words in a sickly style that evokes our very own Anand Yogi.
Even if Arun is just trying to kiss chauvinist ass to get favour, he has clearly struck a deep vein of support amongst his own followers.
Truth is, the Hindu mind thinks it owns Osho because he hailed from the same land. It’s as simple as that.
The fate of Osho`s favourite philosopher, Freddie Nietzsche, provides food for thought here.
He was raised up, after his death, by the Nazis, as the great home-grown philosopher and used as justification in various ways for the sickness that was Nazism
All this, amazingly, despite Freddie’s explicit and acidic denounciation of anti-Semitism.
How do these contradictions get ignored?
I venture that the hit of the power drug is so strong that when the people who seek power get a whiff, it is like smoking a pipe of crack…
it surfaces their madness in a flash,
they just need more of that stuff…
any way they can…
That’s where all these characters are at.
Look at Shantam.
Loser, doing duff jobs cleaning up the crap of the gora and claiming the dole in a country he himself labels “a spiritual wasteland”.
How high could that make your self-esteem?
He gets a hell of a buzz at the idea that he could somehow be part of this great “religion” that will sweep the world.
That’s the psychology of fascism in a nutshell.
With the introduction of a binding cause, particularly personified by a ‘charismatic’ dictatorial leader,
excessive shame, feelings of inferiority and depression,
turn to
inflated pride, feelings of superiority and aggression.
But Hindu chauvinists don’t do ‘psychology’, do they?
It would be more accurate to say that the rush of power / crack removes feelings of unease from the consciousness of the ‘user’ and replaces them with feelings of control.
And that is what makes it so attractive.
Perhaps it’s a pity the Indians don’t really ‘do’ football, as that might attract and channel such desperately wayward energies, as it tends to do elsewhere. Which, I suppose, shows what a low opinion I have of ‘the mob’, ‘the masses’.
I recall being in something approaching that lamentable condition around the age of 12 – 16, when I used fanatical support for football clubs as a means of escape, a way to feel ‘purpose’, part of a large crowd of like-minded people, part of something ‘huge’ and emotionally exciting, able to bask in reflected glory, to feel like ‘somebody’…Trouble is, of course, that even a great team sometimes loses…
As for Hindu chauvinists not ‘doing’ psychology, I recall that being a notable characteristic of Swami R’s lot. Also, of course, of Shantam. Which clearly – but not to those concerned – indicates a deficiency of emotional intelligence, of basic self-knowledge (basic, that is, for a ‘seeker’).
Anyway, sod all that, it’s the World Cup, so why give a toss about anything?!!
Come on, Enger-land!!
Well put, Frank.
Dear Frank, what would I do without your comments these days..?
Like:
“I venture that the hit of the power drug is so strong that when the people who seek power get a whiff, it is like smoking a pipe of crack…
it surfaces their madness in a flash.”
What you commented is not restricted to the area of India sys/dot.com´s
silicons and other valleys.
One of my daily meditations is just dedicated to balance my anger about stupidity as well as cruelty coming along with it, creating the one or the other mass-mob-event, which are very cunning too in the organization sections.
There must be another way beyond grumpiness about all that
– so every moment looking for THE GAP – is me.
Madhu,
yours sincerely.
Generally speaking, it is difficult to get angry with someone that you do not think is stupid , vicious or cruel in some way!
My tuppence worth would be
that it could be the case that as long as we think anger will work,
that is, get a `result` in some way,
we can fall into it.
It’s probably a habit, an addiction even.
I`ve found that addictions can’t stop until the user becomes deeply convinced that the stuff is basically not going to `work` any more.
You go on `using` because deep down there`s a voice saying,
“It’s worth a go, even if it only lasts a moment”.
Then you have to deal with the ‘comedown’.
I`ve reached that point with
sucking my thumb
drugs
fags
booze
and religion!
Not quite there with anger!
Especially when it comes to dickheads!
Luckily, like drugs, it tends to wear off when your body absorbs it and processes the chemicals.
So,
not to worry.
It’s worth remembering that if Osho had been as complimentary to political leaders as Arun is happy to be, then he ‘possibly’ would have been able to stay in the US and die there.
Then what value would Koregaon Park have?
Eating from a plate and then pissing on it; one can learn this from faceless creature on this site. I mean this anonymous man from a nursing home, called Frank.
A man who has spent years and years in India has such a low impression of the people; he fits quite well with those Muslims in UK, who eat and pray there but have no love for the country and its inhabitants.
If Frank really stands for what he writes, I dare him to show his face.
I know he won´t put his family and friends in embarrassing situation. Who wants to relate with such thankless sucker and downright racist?
http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3896#comment-59704
Classic instance of a purely emotionalised and therefore unintelligent reaction, born of feeling ‘hurt’, where you, Shantam, can only see ‘insults’, not the perfectly reasonable case on the page in front of you.
Satyadeva, let me rely upon you. Do you know who this Frank is?
Have you seen his face?
Most probably not.
I HATE people who bullshit about anything, but without accountability, without transparency, without getting caught with their pants down.
This is politics in its ugliest form.
And on the other side, why your heart bleeds when a direct finger is raised towards the people who are raising their fist?
Are you the director of the caring home?
Complaining about someone not showing their photo is such a convenient way of avoiding the issues raised by their posts, Shantam.
Similarly, complaining that someone (me, in this case) having the nerve to express an opinion that contradicts yours and supports someone else’s.
Similarly, complaining about someone (me, in this case) making an occasional prompt reply.
Consequently, one suspects you are both more than somewhat ‘rattled’ and unable to provide a convincing enough response.
3 more points down the drain then, Shantam. You certainly won’t qualify from the Group stage then….
Bullseye!
Seems like Satyadeva has a smart phone, the moment someone writes at sannyasnews, immediately he tips his reaction.
With Emotional Intelligence, people create their own words, own expressions, they don´t get feeder from here and there.
I hope SD will take notice and write something creative out of his own. This will surely help him to cultivate Emotional Intelligence.
Shantam, I don’t think you have a clue what’s meant by emotional intelligence. How could you, if you don’t ‘do’ psychology?
Dear Satyadeva,
One of your remarks:
“Perhaps it’s a pity the Indians don’t really ‘do’ football, as that might attract and channel such desperately wayward energies, as it tends to do elsewhere.”
The football, Satyadeva, and its ‘channelling forces’
in Nigeria, as I just heard in the evening news here,
seems to have lost any peace-maker-energy influence through fair competition,
with the lost peace for watchers (on no hill)…
Fanatic Muslims bombed just today in Nigeria a public viewing.
Many died by the bombing terror-attack -
so that was their last game they watched.
Just poor people probably,
innocent people who wanted to go for an event
to forget for a couple of hours their everyday stress.
A faraway country, sure, Nigeria -
yet I am in utter pain about hearing another one of the daily dangerous and deadly madness in full free-flow.
And that kind of madness
can be recognised in so many other areas of so called ‘civil’ life.
And when Frank´s posts are clearly identifying such mad tendencies,
they deserve support.
Madhu
Last evening it dawned on me, why other sannyas media like Viha Connection or Oshonews do not allow comments, why there is no direct interaction with the writers? Surely it is because of the experiments at Sannyas News.
Look at the quality of the comments and their generators. More than half hide behind the veil of anonymity; I must call them English-educated Talibans who use power of keyboard to fire indiscriminately.
Most often they are well aware what they are writing and most probably ashamed too. Sane person, non-psychopath, who uses writing as a creative tool of expression won´t feel hesitant to stand with the words. Sannyas News is not Time or Newsweek, yet it can be a matter of personal contentment to share the thoughts with the target readers, hear common disciples and who is who on Osho´s path.
Just in this string, stones of wisdom are thrown in abusive and derogatory language on Tapoban´s Arun or PM Modi. They have the faces, whatsoever they are doing is transparent and open for public scrutiny; have the commentators guts and balls to write in the same way?
Why not?
At Osho News too, writers have their faces and profile. Just visualise how much their motivation to write will be curtained when wiser than thou try to psycho-analyse them by hiding their identity under the Burqa.
Unfortunately, burqa wearers are the The Men; the men who think Existence owes them the diamonds!
So, Shantam, the question is:
Why have you bothered to read and write here – probably more than anyone else – for so many years, if you find it so unworthy a medium, so much ‘beneath’ you?
My guess is that, although you almost certainly won’t admit it, not even to yourself, you’re somewhere finally waking up to realising that far too often, as very recently, you simply have no adequate answers, exposed as out of your depth, ‘defeated’, as it were.
However, as that’s just too much for you to handle, you’ll continue to bluster on, for example, affecting to be so very concerned about the reputations of the likes of Modi and Arun, using them as ‘substitutes’ for yourself, or at least ‘identifying’ with them as fellow-Indians, to sort of deflect the personal humiliation (obvious from this outburst of resentment) you clearly feel.
Now, if you had a modicum of emotional intelligence, of self-knowledge, you’d have realised all this already and wouldn’t have produced this latest outpouring (and many such others) that, as I said, ultimately only serves to indicate your almost chronic inability to cope adequately with the issues at this place.
I await the further self-deluded bluster of your response.
OSHO.
WHY DO INDIANS THINK THEY ARE MORE SPIRITUAL THAN OTHERS?
John,
PLEASE FORGIVE THE POOR INDIANS. They don’t have anything else to brag about. You can brag about other things: money, power, atomic or hydrogen bombs, airplanes, that you have walked on the moon, that you have penetrated to the very secrets of life, your science, technology; you can brag about your affluence.
Poor India has nothing else to brag about; it can only brag about something invisible so there is no need to prove it. Spirituality is such a thing you can brag about it and nobody can prove it, nobody can disprove it. For thousands of years India has suffered starvation, poverty, so much so that it has to rationalize it. It has rationalized it so that to be poor is something spiritual. The Indian spiritual man renounces all comforts and becomes poor. When he becomes poor, only then do Indians recognize him as spiritual. If he does not become poor, how can he be spiritual?
Poverty has become the very foundation of Indian spirituality. The more poor you are, the more spiritual you are. Even if you are unhealthy, that is good for being spiritual; that shows your antagonism towards the body. Torture your body, fast, don’t eat, don’t fulfill the needs of the body, and you are doing some spiritual work.
So you will look at Indian so-called spiritual saints and many of them will look physically ill, in deep suffering, in self-torture; their faces are pale because of fasting. But if you ask their disciples they will say, “Look, what a golden aura around the face of our saint!” I know such people — just a feverish aura around their faces, nothing else! But their disciples will say, “A golden aura — this is spirituality!”
Count Keyserling writes in his diary that when he came to India he understood for the first time that poverty, starvation, ill health, these are necessary requirements for spirituality. These are rationalizations.
And everybody wants to be higher than the other, superior to the other.
Now, there is no other way for Indians to declare their superiority. They cannot compete in science, in technology, in industry, but they can compete in spirituality. They are more able to fast, to starve
themselves. For thousands of years they have practiced starvation, so they have become very very accustomed to it; it is easy for them.
For the American to go on a fast is very difficult. Eating five times a day — that means almost the wholeday you are eating — and I am not counting things that you eat in between… For the American it is difficult to fast, but for the Indian it has become almost natural. His body has become accustomed to it. The body has a tremendous capacity to adjust itself. The Indian can sit in the hot sun, almost in a state of fire from the showering of the sun, undisturbed. You cannot sit there — you have become accustomed to air conditioning. The Indian can sit in the cold weather, naked in the Himalayas. YOU cannot; you have become accustomed to central heating. The body becomes accustomed.
And then India can claim: “This is spirituality. Come and compete with us!” And you cannot compete. And certainly, when you cannot compete, you have to bow down to the Indians and you have to accept that they must have some clue. There is no clue, nothing, just a long long history of poverty.
In a cannibal village in the heart of Africa, the wife of the chief head-hunter went to the local butcher’s shop in search of a choice rib for her husband’s dinner. Inspecting the goods, she asked the butcher, “What is that one?”
The butcher replied, “That is an American — seventy cents a pound.”
“Well, then what about that one?” asked the woman.
The butcher replied, “That is an Italian — ninety-five cents a pound. He is a little spicy.”
“And,” asked the woman, “what about that one there in the corner?”
“He is an Indian,” replied the butcher. “two dollars a pound.”
The woman gasped, “Two dollars a pound? What makes him so expensive?”
“Well, lady,” the butcher replied, “have you ever tried cleaning an Indian?”
But that has become spirituality. Do you know? — Jaina monks never take a bath. To take a bath is thought to be a luxury. They don’t clean their teeth; that is thought to be a luxury. Now, to be spiritual in the Jaina sense of the term you have to stop taking a bath, cleaning your teeth, even combing your hair, even cutting your hair. If it becomes too messy, too dirty, you have to pull it out by hand. You can’t use any razor or any other mechanical device, because a spiritual person should be independent of all machines.
So Jaina monks pull their own hair out. And when a Jaina monk pulls his hair out, mostly once a year, then a great gathering happens because it is thought to be something very special. I have been to such gatherings. Thousands of Jainas gather together simply to see this poor man, hungry, dirty, pulling his hair out — crazy! And you will see people watching with great joy and with great superiority: “This is our saint! Who ELSE can compete with us?
No nation is spiritual. It has not happened yet. One can hope that it may happen some day, but it has not happened yet. In fact, only individuals can be spiritual, not nations And individuals have been spiritual all over the world, everywhere. But ignorance prevents people from recognizing others’ spirituality.
One day I was talking to an Indian and I told him that everywhere spirituality has been happening; it is nothing to do with India as such.
He said, “But so many saints have happened here. Where else have so many saints happened?” I said, “Do you know how many saints have happened in China? Just tell me a few names.” He had not even heard of a single name. He does not know anything about Lao Tzu, he does not know about Chuang Tzu, he does not know about Lieh Tzu. He does not know anything of the long long tradition of Chinese mysticism. But he knows about Nanak, Kabir, Mahavira, Krishna, Buddha, so he thinks all the great saints have happened only in India.
That is sheer stupidity. They have happened in Japan, they have happened in Egypt, they have happened in Jerusalem. They have happened everywhere! But you don’t know — and you don’t want to know either. You simply remain confined to your own sect. In fact, you may have lived in the neighborhood of the Jainas your whole life, but you cannot tell the twenty-four names of their great TEERTHANKARAS. Who bothers to know about the others? Only one name — Mahavira — is known; the twenty-three other names are almost unknown. Even Jainas themselves cannot give the twenty-four names in exact sequence. They know three names: the first, Adinatha; the last, Mahavira; and the one before Mahavira, a cousin-brother of Krishna, Neminath. These three are known; the remaining twenty-one are almost unknown even to the Jainas. And this is how it is.
Do you know how many Hassid mystics have attained to God? Do you know how many Zen Masters have attained to Buddhahood? Do you know how many Sufis have attained to the ultimate state? Nobody cares, nobody wants to know. People live in a small, cozy corner of their own religion and they think this is all. Neither Indians nor anybody else is specially spiritual or holy. Spirituality is something that happens to individuals. It is the individual becoming aflame with God. It has nothing to do with any collectivity — nation, race, church.
Osho.
Ah, This!
Chapter #8
Chapter title: Not Knowing is the Most Intimate
Great quote.
Buy the American guns and then shoot Americans.
Use Osho´s words and chuckle over Indians.
If brain cells are not dead but have some pulse of sensitivity and capability of learning, one can think in this way too, “If master can put his culture, his country, his people on surgery table, we can also get the courage to do with our own.”
But no, sir, I have not seen a single post from an American or Englander, or a Greek or Geek where they take their own cultural conditioning.
Few people have the idea if they have paper tissues, they won´t shit.
Shantam chuddie filler said
“But no, sir, I have not seen a single post from an American or Englander, or a Greek or Geek where they take their own cultural conditioning.”
How would you be able to tell such a thing?
You would need to develop a degree of perceptiveness and discernemnt to know; and you show no sign of having developed an iota of either.
Swami Arun with high Nepalese govt. officials in March of this year.
He was at the Beeb today
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.465157896953459.1073741879.166350190167566&type=1
(MOD: ‘Beeb’ IS SLANG FOR BBC!)