The dispute over trust properties between rival factions of Osho’s followers has taken an extraordinary turn with the faction controlling Osho’s properties producing a purportedly certified copy of Osho’s will, 23 years after his death. Osho died in Pune on January 19, 1990 and there was no mention of any will left behind by Osho in the press conferences held by the Osho trustees following his death.
Now, 23 years after his death, the document presented as Osho’s will has suddenly surfaced during Court proceedings in the European Union. Osho’s followers in India were alerted to this development in June, 2013. This will signed by Osho has now been challenged in a Pune court as a forged will and the case before Civil Judge (Junior Division) U.L. Pathak is slated to come up for hearing on September 24. The will dated 16 June 1989 bearing Osho’s signature states that he is bequeathing all properties in his name, including ownership and publishing rights to the Neo Sannyas International Foundation, a Swiss charitable trust. Signed on a stamp paper of Rs10, Michael O’Byrne (Swami Anand Jayesh), president of Osho Foundation International, Zurich, has been identified as the executor of the will and two other foreigners, who are members of this Foundation, as the witnesses, namely, witnesses John Andrews (Swami Amrito) and Philip Toelkes (Swami Prem Niren). The petitioners Osho Friends Foundation & Others led by Yogesh Thakkar alias Swami Premgeet and Kishor Raval alias Swami Prem Anadi who have challenged the authenticity of the will have charged Michael O’Byrne, John Andrews and Philip Toelkes of forging the document and have urged the court to declare the will as null and void. They have also urged the court to permanently restrain the trustees from implementing the will and have also appealed for appointment of an administrator for safe custody of Osho’s properties which includes real estate and intellectual properties running into crores of rupees.
Thakkar said if the authenticity of this will is allowed to go unchallenged, it would mean that properties of Osho belonging to India would now go out of the country. The others named as respondents in the petition are prominent Osho trustees and NRI, Mukesh Sarda (Swami Mukesh Bharti), Vidya Khubchandani (Ma Vidya Bharati) and the Neo Sannyas Foundation. Thakkar and his co-petitioners already have two suits pending against in the Bombay High Court against the administrators of Neo Sanyas Foundation aka Rajneesh Foundation and Osho International Foundation and their trustees for alleged fraud of Rs300 crore, manipulation and embezzlement of Osho trust properties.
The petitioners have alleged that the Foundation trustees “are transferring funds, assets, and benefits of the Osho charitable trusts in favour of private limited companies” controlled by them. According to the petitioners, Osho has left behind a “colossal legacy” which includes archives of 9,000 hours of audio discourses in Hindi and English, 1,870 hours of video discourses, 650 titles of transcribed books in Hindi and English which are being translated in 65 languages around the world, about 850 paintings by Osho, 80,000 books in Osho’s personal library at his commune in Koregaon Park which contains his notations, Osho’s Samadhi at Koregaon Park, and prime real estate in Pune and elsewhere valued at more than Rs. 1,000 crore.
The petitioners have argued that “non-production of Osho’s will for 23 years, comprehensively proves that no such will or document ever existed.” They have also pointed out that Rajneesh’s name in the will is stated as “Chandra Mohan Jain” when in fact his birth name was “Rajneesh Chandra Mohan”. The text of the will dated 16 June, 1989, running into five paragraphs states as follows: RECITAL: “In 1975, 1978 and 1981, I executed assignments concerning my work. Also, in 1981, I executed a broad power of attorney will the stated intention to divest myself of all worldly property, and also an amendment in 1982, with the result that all such property is now owned by Neo Sannyas International Foundation, a Swiss charitable entity. To be completely certain that all such property interests are so divested, I make this Last Will and Testament.
OSHO’S LAST WILL & TESTAMENT: Being of sound mind, and acting of my free will, I make this Last Will and Testament. I, Osho, birth name Chandra Mohan Jain, formerly known as Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, hereby devise and bequest any and all right, title or interest of any nature in any and all property of any nature and in any form, owned by me, now or in the future, including but not limited to, all ownership, publishing or related rights, to all my work, published to date or in the future, in any form, to Neo Sannyas International Foundation. If for any reason that entity cannot or does not accept this bequest then the alternate beneficiary shall be a non-profit, charitable entity dedicated to the dissemination of my work, such entity to be designated by my executor. EXECUTOR: I name as my executor Sw. Anand Jayesh, aka Michael O’Byrne. Executed this 15th day of October, 1989, at Poona, India.
is 10 the magical number ??
earlier OIF management and caretakers claimed
all OSHO priceless data are stored in high security vaults in switzerland
96 cartons of original OSHO data
containing 20000 slides / original 1960 films / OSHO original art signatures
were forgotten and left unclaimed in uncle bobs self storage in new jersey
was finally auctioned for merely 10 US$
now OIF claim to find a 10 rupee stamp paper
the entire last will and testimony of OSHO
even OSHO signature was auctioned for 100,000 US$
judas sold jesus for 30 silver coins
atleast they should match judas and use a 30 rupee stamp paper !!
Jesus was sold out for 30 copper coins, not silver ones. What does it matter? Judas tossed the coins away in disgust before hanging himself. The passion of Christ is a far more interesting story than legal battles over who owns what of what Osho left behind. Personally I’m not in the least bit interested.
10 rupee note paper,eh?
ha.
forgery,imitation and plagiarism is a modern plague.
and its amazing how easy it is to do a forgery!
just imagine what you could manage with a 10 rupee lunghi,
a few Bollywood acting lessons and forgetting to go to the barber for a few months!
not to forget their sworn affidavit in USA court
OSHO was ” employed ” by OIF
who provided him food and stay for his discourses and talks
hence certainly OIF are the owners of OSHO
Seems like human greed and lust for control is infinite.
Any way, I am not surprised to create sham marriages for visa and resident purposes was part of Sannyas tradition, all on ten rupees stamp paper duly stamped by the notary.
I think in 1989, notary was also charging 10 rupees, and without parties available, it was 50!
But is it really “greed and lust for control” or is it simply that these people honestly believe they are the ones that can and will protect “Osho’s legacy” best?
Just as their opponents/enemies believe they are the best people to handle it all (and, of course, that Jayesh & co. are the worst candidates)?
And…
Does it all matter anyway?!
Maybe not so much for those who were there, but perhaps for Humanities future. It could be part of a further manipulation, same as probably installed on Moses, Buddha, Jesus and Mohammed. How otherwise “Love” could be result a society, which leads people into hostility against the own kind.
dictators tend to convince themselves
that the people they rule are like children…
whose opinions are naive and unsophisticated
and whose decisions have to be made for them by people who know best about OSHO
Perhaps you’d like to present an alternative decision-making, ‘executive’ set-up?
And I’d bet a pound to a penny you’d make sure you’re at the top table.
I know both the sides quite closely. Individually, all are remarkable people, unfortunately, both the sides have become the washer man’s wives!
It is not always bad people, the demons. Mythology has the stories where angels bleed each other to death, samurai piercing the chest of each other.
Seems like Osho is the master who triggered maximum amount of natural morphine into the blood.
Look at my life. It has become socially useless because of such intoxication. Thanks heaven, I am still in senses not to enter neighbour´s house and jump on his wife!
Greed has taken over through-out the world..and greed is journey to spiritual disaster..the inner journey becomes dead for those on the greed trip..it is sad- for these old sannyasins..on that journey….but their time for transformation will just have to wait for the next lifetime…being the ordinary man ..being one’s self here and now..and just enjoying whatever Existence delivers…is avoiding what ever the society has programmed all to be and want…and allowing one self to live in each moment relaxed… being spontaneous can be a better path for the awakening to ones’ true essence ..the no-self..beyond the mind..eternal oneness or not twoness..
it never had taken over the world.. we were born with greed , some are more prone to its influences than others.. blame the “great consciousness” for our troubles, for we are part of this planet and life on this planet is full of selfish, greedy, kill or be killed, competitive- with a little love and pleasure thrown in, creatures.
That I see different. We are not born with greed… an unsatisfied need for Love, result amongst other things greed as a compensation or revenge.
This westernised world society emphasises greed, doesn’t it?
We might not be “born with greed”, but we sure are conditioned in its ways….
S.D> – I didn’t know that greed was only a product of “western” society. The “East” hides behind its supposedly long history of “meditativeness”, that is probably the biggest con job ever pulled on people. The east is, and has been more greedy than the west .. it’s just your easy way of throwing the blame away from ourselves…
“it’s just your easy way of throwing the blame away from ourselves…”
How is pointing out the greed endemic in western (now world) society deflecting blame from ourselves?
You yourself aren’t ‘beyond’ greed, are you?
S.D. next time read the entire comment not just the last part. The west didn’t start greed; its part of human existence since the very beginning. i see you want to give the East a pass or just ignore the truth , either way, further meditation is needed on your part.
HR, you’re making assumptions and thus misleading yourself.
What I’m getting at is the West, in its all-consuming worship of what one might call intellectual materialism, has promoted self-serving greed on a scale unparalleled in known history, to become the dominant motivating force of its culture, which now of course spans and includes the entire human race. Hence the obsession with ‘growth’ – economic, rather than psycho-spiritual.
Its science and technology have primarily served, and still largely serve that end, whereas other cultures – now pretty well extinct (including being killed off by the aggressively ‘enlightened’ West) or redundant – have tended to nourish a more profoundly spiritual orientation, including a deeper connection to the natural world – as well as containing the usual spectrum of ‘evils’ created by human ignorance.
the “west” is not all consumption,; just partly so.. nobody forced India to adopt the West’s capitalism, same with China; these countries have been ravaged by your so-called “All consumption” ways before the West existed.. try reading your history… read about ancient Greece and Rome too, while you’re at it.. “All- consumption” is a human problem, and for you the West is a convenient scapegoat.
HR, ancient Greece and Rome are early co-creators (one might say) of the foundations of the prevailing western mentality.
But it’s not really so much about geographical location, rather a ‘state of mind’, a psychological orientation. Calling it ‘East’ or ‘West’ happens to be convenient, that’s all.
I trust you grasp the point now?
SD- how about using the name “africanized” -since our human bodies supposedly originated from Africa and therefore the greed we all have either alive or buried in us all should be named from its point of origin.. so using the word “west” is incorrect.
i’d say ancient India and China beat Ancient Rome and Greece as the forebearers of this current greed-run-amok world.
preetam- so we are not part of the earth? our bodies(mind) have evolved over millions of years, all life competes for survival and in a complex life form such as ourselves, it is manifested in the form of greed.. stop being in denial, and stop being so arrogant.. we are not above anything on this earth, our arrogance is what is killing us and the rest of the planet.
Existence is build through Love and Celebration, such as every being. Please don’t project your confusion about greed on others… I suggest, keep on digging till the happening for clearance and inspiration.
Preetam- you are having difficulty separating fantasy from reality.. put down those osho books and get out and live life.
nor do you believe in modern science. I thought only extremists and fanatics were stuck in a time warp and in blindly following religious dogma. Are you one of those “catholic ” sannyasins? good to know for future reference.
Curious, for what than (if) you meditate? Too prove that we all criminals or greedy materialists, how frustrating.
What do you know about modern science, aren’t they according a few discoveries close to facts and “cause”? So far I know, greed is no cause for existence.
sir, how do you know why or how existence created human beings? just look around you.. not many “meditators” or “lovers” on this planet.. or are you looking with your eyes closed? so much for your fanatical view on things- try looking without your sannyas bias, maybe then you’ll stop running around in circles thinking everything is hunky dory.
My whole teaching is how to be effortless. Even when you are doing something, you should not be the doer. Even when there is action, it should be almost non-action. It should come as a spontaneous flowering, not out of will power. OSHO
Lokesh offering up osho quotes without any commentary?…
I’m shocked! Has the well run dry?
I may have to lie down take several aspirins, smoke some opium and pretend it never happened.
“You should not be the doer” and “it should come as a spontaneous flowering”.
From the teachings of the Shuddha?
Hi Dom, I find all this Osho legacy number utterly uninspiring plus I’m working a lot as a DJ with a lot of high-powered night life. Played to a good crowd last night until dawn. A lot of sannyasins showed up so a good time was had by one and all. The Osho quote was used because he was speaking about ‘will’ power. A weak joke in the current context.
“Will power”, ha ha, missed that one, I’m a duh-ist.
Sounds like you’re rockin it and in zorba mode with Real people. Kool.
Together reminds me of that song from will powers, “dancing for mental health” (on youtube).
All this talk about Osho’s past present and future… it’s very ‘tense’…
Osho’s legacy?..what will be will be, I’d rather make chuddie jokes.
Anyway if it’s a ‘device’, I think we should stand well clear and let the bomb squad deal with it, especially if someone’s saying, “Osho is the one true god and I am his messenger. Osho akbar!”
Run!
Aye, you know what they say, where there is a will there is a way…but I won’t be following it.
Inshallah…by God’s ‘will’ (and running each other over with camels.)
‘Godswilla – I leave you my scream’ -yet another B movie from the Osho comedy horror franchise…
Just as the followers of Mahavir, Gautam Buddha & Jesus twisted their (Master’s) teachings, the same or even worse is happening now with the followers of Osho. What an irony that all the so called Swami’s (Followers/torch bearers of Osho) who are fighting/claiming his property are the ones who have missed HIS (Osho’s) point.
I am sure Osho would be seeing and laughing at the stupidity of his followers!
And what exactly is Osho’s point, Pranav? Please enlighten us here at SN.
Even a country like Iran has new president and suddenly there is a ray of hope. This man is saying, ” Age of bloodbath is over. New world needs multi dimensional dialogue.”
Look at Christianity. New pope has brought new light, new prospective.
Can we imagine a new chairman of Osho Interntaional?
Most probably not. The community of smug don´t change, just like the ponds and frogs inside.
PS_ I can listen the voice from behind. Change your self Swami. Don´t expect an outer change!
its odd,that.
just the other day, I was rooting around in my garden shed,looking for something I`d lost, when I came across one of those old 10 rupee aerogrammes.
as I opened it up and read it,blimey! it turned out to be osho`s will!
fancy that!
I`d completely forgotten about it!
well, that’s just the old going-beyond-the mind beginning to kicking in,i suppose.
well,i have been meditating for a few decades now,after all..
it is dated December 10th,1989
anyway,it read:
“I,raja bhagwan shree rajneesh zorba matreya the buddha mohan jain acharya mahakashyapasyougoalong Osho, being of sound no-mind and acting from my own free whim,declare that I`ve done my time and sung my song so just let me move on,so you can move on,too.
in the parting words of the Buddha”get a life unto yourself”
no doubt there will be the usual crew of retards trying to make me a into a religion,parroting me and “doing my work” and slithering their way up the greasy pole of so-called enlightenment…
what to do…?
don` be worried…,let all those idiots battle it out..if they feel the need to puff themselves up and have their 15 minutes of fame…
so be it…
don’t forget,compassion is also necessary
these people need a bit of compassion
and a good kick up the ass……”
`ps. I never said “I leave you my dream”
what I said was “I leave you my legal team”
I saw which way it was going,and well,if you cant have a bit of a laugh just as you`re about merge with the cosmos for the rest of all eternity,when can you ?`
cheraiveti,cheraiveti,and cheerio……
Nice one Frank, the ‘dodgy knees’. I thought you were gonna say he’d nominated you to be the Big Paneer. I’d re-enlist for that.
Coincidently I have an exact copy of the same will. It must be real!
This must be one of those either/or situations beloved of philosophers!
It’s one thing or the other, Jayesh is the temporal King as anointed by Osho, or a crazy fraud is being promulgated…. … there’s no in between for the chuddies of this world.
The picture of Osho at the top really is a rare classic.
Notice the perfection in Osho’s bald-headed dome,which is very well complimentated by his black beard.
Luckily I have managed to come across a large collection of these photo’s in an auction and am selling these qaulity prints for rupees 10 per piece.
I have heard a rumour that the Will document is not working out, so another document is about to float upon the world proving that Osho adopted Jayesh as his son. Now when did we hear that one before…. 1983 or 4 when some cock and bull story was concocted to prove that Osho was adopted, I think into Sheela’s family when he was a child or some such. Maybe someone here knows the story more precisely than my memory allows? It was about finding a way so Osho could stay in the States legally as I remember, but not sure of the connection?
Just like a hero of Hindi films, Jayesh entered the scene with big bang and that too during the time, Messiah of 20th century was in the need of a saviour.
Osho in the handcuffs During His last days in America adevnture. there are two other gentlemen with. One is his doctor and another a totally new comer.
It is amazing, how come he was planted in the script and by whom?
May be it is destiny.
latest on this from Indian Express:
“Twenty three-years after his death, the surfacing of an alleged will of Osho has his followers worried. While a group of his followers, including Swami Prem Geet (Yogesh Thakkar), has moved courts challenging the will, many have claimed they never heard Osho or anyone else talk about it during his lifetime.
Osho’s long-time secretary Ma Yoga Neelam said she never heard about the will in the past. Neelam, who was one of the 21 disciples appointed by Osho to be part of the inner circle to run the commune, asked why the will was produced 23-years after his demise?”
“Members of the inner circle used to extensively discuss every topic but the question of his will never came up. What I do not understand is that if Swami Amrito knew about the will, why did he not talk about it all these years?” she asked. Newsline reported about the controversy on Thrusday. The will had bequeathed the “the rights and titles” to Neo Sanyas International Foundation, a Swiss Charitable Institution. Swami Anand Jayesh (Micheal O’Byrne) had been named as the executor of the will, while Swami Amrito (John Andrews) and Swami Prem Niren (Philip Toolkes) had their signatures as witnesses on it.
Neelam, who was a part of the inner circle till 2000, said her relations with Amrito, Jayesh and Niren were excellent.
Another old time disciple of Osho, Ma Dharma Kirti, who was associated with Osho since 1968, said she had never heard Osho talk about the will. “He cannot make such a will, it does not reflect him,” she said.
Swami Satya Vedant, an erstwhile member of the inner circle, expressed dismay . “It is highly unlikely, that any will made by Osho will be entrusted on them,” he asked.
Wonder if it’s a deliberate provocation.
They can’t have not known what was going to happen.
thanks Arps for the suggestion. Yes it does seem strange given the reaction they must have known would follow.
Niren always struck me as one of the more sane people around the Ranch debacle, and a trained lawyer to boot. He is not part of the Ashram elite anymore, I think he may even work as a lawyer again in the US. Guess someone could ask him as he is listed as a witness?
The other two “chaps” have both had some question marks placed against their “stability” as people, so it could be some sort of madness being provoked in them as they struggle to win a fight they do seem to be losing. … ..
he still is a lawyer in the Mill Valley area of California, last heard… but as with all lawyers- don’t trust them.
I hope future of spiritual organisations will remember the no so golden recent past.
This so called will is a desperate attempt, almost like chemical weapons.
They seems to be falling in their own trap and also putting the question mark on Osho’s creditibility.
Jayesh and Amrito seems to be the masters of forgery and taking law in their own hand.
I can imagine these two people’s energy was also a triggering point for Nirvano’s untimely death, most often suicide. No police report, no postmartom, no press; but now they seem to be running out of ammunation!
Anyone “can imagine” anything, Shantam, but neither you nor anyone else has the slightest shred of evidence re Nirvano’s death, apart from informed speculation concerning her manic depression and possible excess drug-taking.
Idle talk of these two men’s “energy” is simply that; moreover, you didn’t know the woman so you have no clue of the effect of anyone on her, at any time, do you?
I thought you’re a trained lawyer? On the other hand, maybe you’re just that….
Few things we know from news papers, for few things we can be eye witness or on the same space where drama was unfolding.
Surely it is a hear say for me, when i have read in the newspapers about a statement of Bill Clinton about Hillary. It is mentioned by his ex. mistress. In an exclusive interview to daily mail she has said, ” Bill thought Hillary was a bisexual, and he feels happy to know that she has eaten more Puxxy than him.”
but when i write about the scenes of dramas happened after Osho’s arrival to Pune, most often i know the characters and their shadows.
When you spend your life in an ocean, even as a frog you encounter amazing amazing mind blowing stories.
This is one of the reason, to save their peace of mind, many frogs go back to their ponds!
How many times have you met these characters (the men and the woman you speak so confidently about), please, Shantam?
And in your ‘historical analysis’ have you given due consideration to any possible personal bias on your part?
Osho choses 10 Rupees stamp paper to write his will…
Does it mean few months before his death, Osho realised, one ordinary legal paper with street typist drafting has more worth than all his talks?
It wont be surprising if OIF claims Osho’s insurance policy soon made in the late 60′s !
If Messiahs, Prophets and masters don’t die even after their death, then it is clear, they may be held equally responsible for their followers and disciples crimes and idiocy.
In liablity cases too, owner of the vehicle is held responisible for driver’s mistakes. If not for criminal negligence, atleast for monatary conpensation.
I am unfamiliar with ‘stamp paper’ so I did a bit of research (Google.)
Let me quote from this link:
http://ask.metafilter.com/138362/How-does-Indian-stamp-paper-work
“Many types of legal documents are only valid if printed on a specific value stamp paper (Rs. 10, Rs. 100, Rs. 500 and so on). The sale of
these papers generates revenue for the government and acts as a kind of ‘transaction tax’. The added benefit is that when stamp paper is purchased the date, name of the person buying it and the purpose of the stamp paper is recoded in a paper register (log) kept by the seller.
The same details are also marked on the back of the stamp paper.
This makes it hard for people to back date contracts or the do back dated forgeries (without the cooperation of the stamp paper seller, which btw
is not unheard of.)”
So i wonder…
Does; “purportedly certified” mean the original seller with independent
documentation has been found?
or
Is the court being asked to rule on the will on its own?
(Personally I have little interest in the wrangling over Osho’s legacy.
But I would find it ironic if a fake! were to scupper swami R’s dream of resort domination.)
Thanks for your research Anu. Very useful info.
“Purportedly certified’ simply means that Osho International are “claiming” that the will is independently verified and in the way you document. Of course this does not mean such certification will reach the Court’s standards, or forensic examination!
If Osho was never born and never died, a Will is not a possibility….
same goes for the rest of us- if we were never born nor died, then who the fuck needs a will?
A will that stops at ‘nothing’….. Would set an interesting legal precedent. While hsr is reminding us that everything has buddha nature. Perhaps more medication…. I mean meditation is needed.
amrito claims that OSHO overlooked every aspect of his vision
with clarity and awareness…
i guess amrito meant :
this 10 rupee stamp paper ” last will ” is very indicative of this clarity
shabby piece of forgery !!
Which is nothing more than an assumption on your part, convenient for your personal agenda, Mr Ozen.
Presuming and assuming guilt before you or anyone, not to mention a court, has precise details of the evidence and has thoroughly examined them.
As such, it’s an extremely poor example to set for your own ‘followers’ (or “friends”, or whatever you call them).
Just more trickily reckless, unprincipled politicking, on similar lines to your publically assuming Osho was murdered or unlawfully killed by the same people.
Shameful. If that’s the fruit of your so-called enlightenment, then you know where to stuff it.
If Osho was never born and never died, a Will is not a possibility….
This is a theory put forward by Chetna.
Question is who was a one man spiritual industry, speaking books and thousands of hours worth of recording.
It is not the sword which will decide who has the power of truth but in this new age of medieval times, it is the 10 Rupees stamp paper produced before the court after 23 years.
Jayesh to Osho, ” Master we want to have few of your signatures on blank stam papers. In case of need. you know we don’t want to disturb you when some emergency arises.”
Osho may have said, ” It is good. Just buy the cheapest ones. I don’t like to waste money on government papers.”
Therefore it was decided to buy 10 rupees stamp paper. The cheapest ones.
Typist must have taken too around 15 rupees and notary maximum 50, because Gora(White) people were in a hurry for his signature.
And a new history has been created, “How the greatest master after Gautama the Buddha handed over, ” The Transmission of Lamp.”
Is it not a matter of embarrassment?
And my last-but-one response to Sw R applies to you as well, Shantam (well, the first two paragraphs).
“Embarrassment”? Why, what else to expect from a thoroughly chaotic, amoral movement, whose founder and inspiration was hardly what one would term ‘a man of the world’, well versed in mundane, legalistic issues?
Embarrassing? No way, simply par for the sannyas course.
satyadeva states :// Which is nothing more than an assumption on your part, convenient for your personal agenda, Mr Ozen.
Presuming and assuming guilt before you or anyone, not to mention a court, has precise details of the evidence and has thoroughly examined them.
yes satyadeva…for your sake…let the court decide !
and this is not my personal agenda
but relates to millions of sannyasins directly
as well as to the future of all OSHO works and vision
let us assume this ridiculous 10 rupee stamp paper OSHO will
was a secret guideline…and was an inner circle secret…
at least all 21 inner circle management should testify !!
No, Sw R, not for my sake, for the sake of the rule of law, which happens to be one of the main foundations of any so-called civilised society. Do you think you’re so wise, so important that you’re ‘above’ the courts, above the law? It would seem to be so.
“Millions of sannyasins”? Delusions of grandeur! Why do you need to exaggerate the numbers – to make yourself feel more significant, or what?
I’ll believe it’s not your personal agenda when you show you have no ambition to run the show yourself. As I said, I’ll bet a pound to a penny that never happens.
“Embarrassment”? Why, what else to expect from a thoroughly chaotic, amoral movement, whose founder and inspiration was hardly what one would term ‘a man of the world’, well versed in mundane, legalistic issues?
Satya Deva, why you are wasting time in the negative zone?
There is a hell of difference between the people who want to fix the leakage and those who pack the bags and go to the next B&B.
(ED: SOME EDITING HERE)
Coming soon-
a new thriller called
” 10 Rupees Stamp Paper”.
A never born never died production!
A thriller? It’s simple. Follow the money…
Some other titles….
Requiem for a dream
Good Will hunting
Dead gurus society
There will be blood
Fight club
10 rupees and a funeral
Billion Lakh baby
Infernal affairs
The usual suspects
Star Wars-the empire strikes back
Harry Potheads and the chamber of secrets
Life of porky PIes…
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/oshos-will-surfaces-23-years-after-his-death/424172-3.html
Oh daddy, can you sign this paper please. I know you are in fever and feeling pain but just a signature please…!
It is utterly shameful, disgusting, ugly that Osho movement which was suppose to change the course of rivers is falling on the similar gutter tracks..
Power corrupts and it can corrupt meditators even worse as their cushy ego feels superior to all.
When you walk on the water, you can pee also on it without closing the door!
Apart from, like Sw Ozen, jumping the gun and prematurely assuming guilt, again your outrage is laughable.
You might wish it were otherwise, but since when was Osho’s movement ever ‘respectable’? It’s been up to its neck in controversy, shady dealing and worse for decades.
Wake up, get real, Shantam. This wish to be seen as ‘whiter-than-white’ by the world is, in its way, almost as corrupt as the alleged ‘crime’ you’re enjoying condemning.
I feel envy with people, who are so nice, they never condemn anything and any body. They have the capability to see good in every being. They have the quality to see humanness even in the dictators.
One wife was giving evidence in support of her husband who was charged for children porn and paedophilic activities.
She addressed the court, ” I fully disagree with the charges. My husband is so considerate for children´s well being that though a fast driver, he drives on walking speed whenever we pass by a school!
If you mean to include me in the category you outline in your first paragraph, Shantam, then I should tell you that it’s not a matter of ‘seeing the good in everybody’ etc., it’s more impersonal than that nonsense, it’s simply a question of standing up for a basic principle of justice.
Perhaps you prefer to align yourself with those who give prime value to hearsay, rumour, innuendo and their natural outcome, when unchecked, the rule of the selfishly emotion-driven, wilfully unintelligent, unprincipled mob? (Amongst which, even certain of the ‘enlightened’ – well, one anyway – are numbered, it appears).
Mostly the written expressions create some kind of thoughts in readers. So when I read something, few words simply take the form. This is nothing extra ordinary, if we know how to write, it is easier than to formulate the feelings in words.
So with this background, I wish to say, I have not included Satya Deva in my post about goody goody people. If words are the indications, he is one of the most balanced writer at this site. Surely he has his own limitations in vision like all of us, including those past present and future enlightened ones and so called one, who think themselves as navel of the world.