Satyadeva writes:
It was just an ordinary day, filled with mundane tasks, nothing special going on (unless I tuned in to the problem-obsessed media) until I came across this short talk by the distinguished physicist Richard Feynam, which transformed my perceptions of our human reality, what we are and where we come from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDcVqj5rceA
We did not exist before birth, after birth one becomes a queen bee called Osho Rajneesh and million others become servants, labourers, Facilitators etc.
After death, everyone gets a new life, Only Osho Rajneesh remains, Never Born Never Died.
We did not exist before birth but we exist post-demise, in one form or another.
So, Elon Musk is an idiot who is ignorant to the physics of traveling to Mars. And Feynman is an idiot for saying robots can lie in the dust for thousands of years and then get up… with what power source? I have never been the least bit interested in traveling to other planets. But as they say in Spanish, “en la viña del Señor hay de todo” (in the Lord’s vineyard there is everything).
Hi SD,
Here’s another video that will also transform your perceptions of our human reality….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-6ZAbPlxwQ
Thanks for that, Anubodh. Love seeing some of the great players of yesteryear.
Cheers, Anubodh, I’ve only just discovered the whole Arsenal squad of that time is portrayed there, I’d thought it was just Charlie George (mind you, that was impressive enough).
Yes, going through those youth-and-age scenes on the sofa is quite a lesson, clearly demonstrating transience, contrasting the condition of youth at its peak with our decidedly less glamorous common human fate, whatever our previous health, achievements or fame. It’s a little disturbing at times seeing the obvious physical (and in some cases, eg Bob Wilson) apparent psycho-physical) deterioration of the former players, despite the warmth of the encounters.
So, love, friendship, youth, age, past, present, life, death…
It was a great idea and beautifully constructed, a wonder of AI (how do they manage it? It’s mind-blowing to a tech ignoramus like me).
“en la viña del Señor hay de todo” (in the Lord’s vineyard there is everything). That is a literal translation. The more colloquial meaning in English might be: “It takes all kinds”, meaning the world contains a wide variety of diverse people with different behaviours, personalities and backgrounds, sannyasins, ex-sannyasins, advaitins, neo-advaitins, etc. etc. etc.
Unfortunately that’s not the kind of Spanish they teach you in Duolingo, which is where I spent some time brushing up a while ago… Feliz cumpleaños! Vamos!
Dear Friends,
Please keep an eye on this young man Shashi Vasudev. In his deepest beliefs, he is the reincarnation of Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho) who “died” on 19.01.1990. In sannyas language, Master shri left the body and two years later landed on the earth in the form of Shashi.
Naturally, Indian sannyasins of Osho feel offended and disgusted by the presence of Shashi Vasudev. How come their ultimate flowering gets rebirth and that too in the form of Shashi, whose mental balance is not in a perfect shape? I feel love and respect for Shashi. His perception could be right or not, he is one old, well-travelled soul.
One thing I can say without hesitation, Shri Osho Rajneesh most probably could not cross the threshold of earth. His karma record got defected after a super good start…
Presence of Shashi Vasudev must be looked upon as a wonder of life and death. His thought about himself must be investigated.
I feel revolted by the Sannyas cult also for the reason that past life stuff they sold in wholesale, and here they run away like rats, and simply ridicule the claim of Shashi Ji. At least the family members of Shri Rajeesh Jain who are in business must visit Shashi and enquire about his well-being.
Even someone fails in the past life or this life, he still deserves love.
Fallen angels and wounded hearts need caring….
https://www.facebook.com/shashijhathedude
Yes, yes, Shashi looks like Osho as a young chap, but even more importantly, Shashi has over 7,000 followers on Facebook. It’s a miracle.
Feynman was an extraordinary physicist, it was said if you had an impossible-looking problem in physics you could either spend years trying to figure it out, or you could ask Feynman. But he did die in 1988, before the 1989 date mentioned in the video for some of the theories mentioned – isn’t it amazing what AI can do?
That’s not to say that the text that was being spoken is without value, on the contrary it is a fair summary of some of the earlier consciousness research. A good book on the subject would be Michael Pollan’s ‘A World Appears: A Journey into Consciousness’ published earlier this year, in which these and more recent ideas get talked about at length.
Yes, it is AI. Note the slightly Australian accent.
Where did you come from is not that important.
Fundamental question is where one goes after death.
My hypothesis is name change Europeans must get birth in India to see the complete picture.
Every action has the consequences, you wear Indian names, you deserve to be an Indian. Your seeds are your Trees!
Shantam declares, ‘”The fundamental question is where one goes after death.”
This so-called fundamental question has so many givens taken for granted it is like a labyrinth with no clear answer at the exit, if one happens to find such an exit.
4Shantam suggests, “Europeans must get birth in India to see the complete picture.” Highly ironic considering that Shantam does not seem to possess a clear picture of anything, and he was born in India. The idea that India is special in spiritual terms had pretty much reached its sell-by date in 1969.
If it is indeed true that ‘cleanliness is next to godliness’, India must come in at the bottom of the list of dirty places to live because it is a filthy country; that is, of course, generally speaking.
Shantam cynically draws the following absurd conclusion: “If you wear Indian names, you deserve to be an Indian. Your seeds are your Trees!”
I wonder if he has been tasting this year’s crop of magic mushrooms in Freiburg im Breisgau, as he makes his way to church to listen to another boring sermon from the rev.
Swami Lokesh,
Most of the time I go to the empty church or when there are hardly a few people sitting silently.
It is observed, people who have listened too much to Shri Osho Name Changer are hooked with excitement in the words, a kind of Porn quality.
Surely a farmer who sows popcorns becomes a pop star of the season, villages go through starvation.
One Charismatic manipulator destroys the generation around him.
Thanks to God, one day all die and restart.
I kind of doubt whether Osho destroyed the generation around him, Shantam. The largest movement of thoughts and desires in this age seems to be economic. Houses have become so expensive compared to the median income that for many of Gen Z a house and a family feels out of reach.
Osho encouraged people to drop all of that measuring, to instead live together in freedom, love, celebration. He set many people’s feet on the spiritual path by talking about meditation and the peaks of consciousness. That is a very good thing.
I think the end of Rajneeshpuram, the World Tour, and what happened after that in how sannyasins were denied the opportunity to come to Poona 2 were in a way an attack by those in power on those following the enlightened man. That idea, the Buddha, the awakened one…it upsets the capitalist ideal, the point of private property and the primacy of money. It tells you there is more to this life than the accumulation of numbers in a bank account.
Especially the young people today need to hear this, to know the richness that meditation, art, celebration can bring to life.
Shantam says, “Where did you come from is not that important.
Fundamental question is where one goes after death.”
It seems to me they are probably not different places. If we can find out how a baby becomes conscious, it will teach us a great deal about what consciousness is and where we go after death.
Consider the stages of a baby’s growth. It begins as a fertilised egg cell in the womb, there is not much evidence of consciousness there. By the time it is a foetus and spending nine months asleep there maybe a head with a small brain, perhaps the level of brain activity of a squirrel. The process of brain development takes place largely outside the womb, after the birth and during the first few years of life.
Babies don’t do a lot during the first few months. They also don’t have many reflexes beyond sucking nipples and gripping to hold on. It is debatable when consciousness shows up.
I recall hearing from various apparent authorities that a being/soul is attracted to a particular womb at the moment of conception. But I wonder what happens when multiple souls are attracted to the same womb. Do they fight it out (lol) or does politeness rule, as in “After you, mate, your need’s greater than mine – and anyway I’ve got plenty of time.” Or perhaps it’s very often a purely random affair.
Although I suspect this is a mysterious area where our attempts at rational explanations are probably well wide of the mark.
Dear Shantam, you have certainly changed your tune in regards Osho. Not so long ago you were singing his praises. Now the pendulum has swung in the opposite direction. Tick tock. It’s all in your mind.
I was recently asked whether I believe in reincarnation.
I considered the question and came to the conclusion that there are better things to consider. I have been listening to people talk about such matters for 60 years. It is all so many words. It is very human to try and neatly package a mystery, to avoid delivering a heartfelt, “I really do not know.” That is something I admire about the Dalai Lama….he says he does not know when he does not know the answer to a question.
Dalai Lama does not know about reincarnation.
How he was chosen or how Mr Next Lama gets chosen?
Those who were quoting Bible, their children started quoting Bhagwan/Osho. Now Dalai Lama is in fashion.
Why we quote Professional Preachers?
I recently listened to a wee talk from the Dalai Lama about what exactly gets reborn.
Shantam was probably hurriedly unwrapping a LIDL’s frozen beef pie when he wrote the above comment.
Lokesh, even in the ripe old age, you need teachers to quote.
What is this hunger to listen to this or that professional preacher?
Are not these preachers having tunnel vision?
Surely pupils of doomed Osho Mystery School are lost!
Looking at the vast ocean around, Let One Rishi Lokesh arise.
I hope thousands of Oshos and Sadgurus.
These gentlemen were not falling from the sky!
His Holiness Shantam writes, “Lokesh, even in the ripe old age, you need teachers to quote.”
I have no idea why this unfounded statement is addressed to me. I’m not really in the habit of quoting anyone.
Could it be that all that aspartame Shantam has been swallowing for years is affecting his brain?
Please address your replies to PO Box 666, Freiburg im Breisgau. Home of the frozen beef pie.
In India there is a saying, ‘Shouting at the daughter, sending indirect message to the daughter-in-law.’
I know, Lokesh, you quote sehr Seldom.
I would try to get one frozen beef pie. I am one of those Indians in Germany, who eat all that Germans eat.
MOD:
“…you quote sehr Seldom” – meaning, please, Shantam?
Shantam means ‘very’ seldom.
Indians are more and more incarnating here.
Lately a Sikh brought me a pizza.
It’s called Call-a-Pizza.
It was an annoying listen, as the AI speech was too fast, but Richard was a great man, exploring as he did in ways that many other scientists refused to follow. I couldn’t listen to the whole lecture, but I hope I got a sense of it.
I was given the question of “where was I before I was born” many years ago, and I’ve asked others the same question. In particular I’ve suggested it to people I’ve met, new to “spirituality” or others who appear somewhat materialistic and closed.
Either way the question has power.
It’s unanswerable by the mind, yet if we allow the question to settle it takes us into a place of mystery, beyond our everyday sense of who we are.
For materialists it’s a stupid question, worthy of dismissal. For them consciousness is simply a material evolutionary journey and whilst we can’t explain fully consciousness or questions of life and death, we one day will. In the meantime questions like this are irrelevant.
If I have ever continued to explore the question with this sort of person, they’ve usually got annoyed with me, or walked away.
It’s understandable in some ways because the question does act in a singular way, directly, with a force to push the mind into an experience of mystery. It takes away the known and allows the unknown to enter. It acts in this direct way to show you that Life and death are far more mysterious than our rational minds recognise.
Of course, not everyone will experience this, because we’ve been so smart and clever and ridiculing questions like this.
You may have seen parents despair at their children who ask the question “Why” in a repetitive manner. Why is the sun hot? Why did the sun get there? And so on.
Their “Why?” question hints at a deep wondering as to the real reason behind everything that as adults we have dismissed as just too scary to explore. For adults it can be annoying but for children it is a real question, worthy of answer.
“Where was I before I was born?” remains elusive and yet deeply rewarding and expansive, and for me keeps raising new and wonderful insight and questions about the nature of death, NDEs, reincarnation, the Matrix, alien consciousness and more.
At its simplest and at its most direct it takes me into a place of mystery and in many ways acts as my anchor to my whole life.
Lokesh says:
5 October, 2026 at 11:18 am
response:
These memoirs are more honest, authentic, humane than the cult of Osho, I call that Meditation Mafia.
I read Jane Stork’s ‘Breaking the Spell’ after Shantam highly recommended the book.
I rated it about 6 out of 10 on the reading scale. Jane just swallowed a lot of bullshit and acted on it, producing alarming results. A wee bit bonkers and easily led is the impression she left on me. How could someone be so stupid? Joining a spiritual cult helped cultivate the stupidity.
We existed before, we will exist afterwards.
We don´t remember in which form we existed, we don´t decide which form we will take.
Once there was an Indian guru named Rajneesh. When at the age of 40 he saw an 18 years younger, petite, sweet British girl, he created a story: “You were existing in the past life as an Indian girl of my village. You are reborn to get the lost love in me. See, your past life lover is on the way to become World Master in Neo Spirituality.”
No one knows what oneself or others were before birth. Every story is a fiction to manipulate.
Indian Gurus and their high school drop-out foreigners are gold medallists in the past life seminars!
What a load of nonsense. Shantam, you are starting to sound like someone with a very large chip on their shoulder.
You conclude, “Indian Gurus and their high school drop-out foreigners are gold medallists in the past life seminars!” Apart from being untrue, this statement carries a note of resentment. What exactly are you so pissed off about?
Dear Lokesh, you can see note of resentment in my statement but not the obvious lies and manipulations by one of your gurus.
I had a notion, westerners are very truth-appreciating people. It seems by changing names some westerners become like Indians.
Indians and truth: it changes colours according to the seasons.
Most of the readers and writers on this site are lifelong sannyasins or disillusioned ones, like this post writer.
Let me ask one simple question:
Do you still believe Shri Rajneesh aka Osho´s story about Vivek/Nirvano´s past life is a fact, or a fiction to serve multiple purposes of the Master?
I almost always thought that story about Vivek was a load of hokum. A simple case of giving people what they wanted. To be completely honest, there was a time when I wanted to believe in such stories…a relatively short-lived period of my life.
That was one of Osho’s tricks to keep people hooked. A guru will enjoy success if he tells his disciples it is cool to do and believe in any old nonsense. Fuck your way to God kind of scenario. That is why everyone had so much fun in Poona One. You had to be stupid not to enjoy it.
When “Fuck your way to God” kind of scenario is created, time has shown God fucks on the ass and prints remain forever.
Shameless people still go on bragging, they tried their level best to fuck their way to God.
Shame repentance, remorse are not in the system of psychopaths and alpha males.
Truth and falsehood in Osho’s world is somewhat of a nebulous concept. Perhaps it was true on some level, that there was a connection. What exactly that connection was is hard to say, but Osho gave words to it, a story, a shape…
About the Buddha there are also many stories told about his past lives, collectively these are known as the Jataka Tales. Scholars don’t consider them true, but scholars are very serious people. For ordinary folks, the Jataka Tales contain favourite stories, less serious than what the scholars pursue…
Shantam, if you are free then you don’t care if the Vivek-story is true or not.
Seems you feel betrayed by Osho.
Still waiting for enlightenment?
Satchit, enlightenment also means when you can see the blindness of three-eyed people.
Rajneesh brand of Enlightenment was never my attraction. I was fascinated by a single fact, how thousands of people from the world are coming to India by listening the call of Bhagwan Shree.
As an Indian, it was a pivotal moment to feel we are giving something to the world.
Disillusioned I became to see immense corruption of Master and his cronies.
No one has cheated humanity with clean sweep as Mr. Rajneesh Jain. His last cheating is to die with a name change.
Utterly coward and clever he was.
Shantam claims, “No one has cheated humanity with clean sweep as Mr. Rajneesh Jain.”
Really, Shantam, you are being ridiculous…as usual.
Sad to see that you are so disillusioned with Osho, Shantam.
I’ve read many of the same memoirs as you, and also a few more positive ones, and I feel Osho’s energy is still a good and beautiful thing in the world.
“Utterly coward and clever he was.”
I see, Shantam, he did not behave as you wanted him to behave.
And the other ugly crime he did was that he changed names.
Just read the new article by SD, somehow felt & thought to share here, due to this timing.
By chance, my cousin, we share the same first name, same year of birth & the same college in Bombay too & have been very close with each other till now and have always shared a close relation with her now ex-husband & their children too.
She shared an insta post with me on WhatsApp, which her colleague had shared with her, about her son’s book launch in Poona. Btw, she & I don’t have an insta account.
In 2019 this son Raphael wanted to file a case against his parents for having him, and he featured on BBC News. Btw, both his parents are lawyers at the Bombay High Court!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47154287
Now I am wondering if this very keyboard I am clicking wanted to be born & where it was before being born!
It is the mailman’s last day on the job, and he is feeling mixed emotions. On the one hand he is glad to be retiring, but on the other hand he will miss seeing the beautiful young married woman he has fancied for the last few years.
He is shocked and delighted when she opens her door for this last time, wearing a see-through gown, and invites him in. She drags him up to the bedroom and makes passionate love to him.
Afterwards she cooks him a delicious breakfast. When he is about to leave, the young woman goes to her purse, takes out a dollar bill and gives it to him. “I don’t understand,” says the satisfied mailman. “You are going to pay me as well?”
“It was my husband’s idea,” the woman explains, “when I told him you were retiring and suggested we give you something, he said, “Screw him, give him a dollar.”
#”The breakfast,” she adds proudly, “was my idea.”
Shantam declares, “It seems by changing names some westerners become like Indians.”
It might seem like that to Shantam, but after looking at the situation over decades, I cannot say that is true. Besides, if somebody wants to use an Indian name, what business is it of Shantam’s? It is nobody else’s business, and in the greater scheme of things, it does not amount to very much.
That’s just so brilliantly appropriate, NP!
A good joke is never wasted
It seems to me that Western people think they know and understand a great deal, whereas they could really do with a little more humility and respect. There are more forces in existence than those that material science knows about.
The whole mystery of how Osho gathered his people is a case in point. Why did some people like my father feel called, on seeing Osho’s photo in black and white in a cheap magazine? So much so that it drastically changed the course of his life?