Celebrate and Rejoice

Celebrate and Rejoice                                                                               by Chaitanya Keerti

In the summer of the year 2000 I was banned from Osho International Meditation Resort.  Five or six other well known sannyasins were also banned the same day. The ban was that we were not allowed to enter within 100 metres of the campus. The Resort administration had procured the ban order from the local court on the grounds that we were dangerous and our presence in the Resort would create unrest there.

I laughed in amazement when I heard this. So did the others involved. We looked at each other: Do we look like terrorists? Have we ever done any terrorist activity? Most of the other sannyasins who had known us for decades were equally surprised.

At first we thought that we should challenge this order to the Court. We travelled from Delhi to Pune a few times to do what was needed. Then we realised that it was meaningless and expensive to travel frequently to Pune, as we became aware that the Resort managers could prolong the case for ever. It was their way of harassing us, so we dropped the idea of challenging the order.

Personally speaking, I only felt bad for a few days in the beginning; later I did not feel that I was being rejected by our sangha of sannyasins who lived all over the world. There were very few people left in the Resort. Most of our fellow travellers who had always lived or worked there had left or were not coming back as often as they had before. And it seemed to me that that some of the people who continued to come were feeling good that they had this new experience of power that allowed them to ban such people as Ma Neelam, Swami Vaitragya, Swami Keerti – people who had held positions of responsibility in the Resort/Ashram in the past. Some new members in Pune tasted this sudden power for the first time. Personally, I felt that we should let these people enjoy this power, since they were not the whole commune. I should just continue to do my work. Why should I bother to challenge these people?

A year later two prominent people of India – T. N. Seshan, the former election commissioner of India, who was very famous at that time, and Mr Karthikeyan, the former CBI Director – went to visit the Resort. Swmai Amrito and some other Resort Team members met them in the main office after their tour. When all of them were having chai together, Mr Karthikeyan asked, “Swami Keerti is doing such good work in Delhi, why have you banned him here?”

Swami Amrito replied “No, no, Swami Keerti is not banned. He is welcome here.”

Mr Karthikeyan came to Delhi next day and called me. “Swami Keerti, can you come to my home for lunch? I have something to share with you.  I went to the Resort, and they told me you were not banned”. I went to have lunch with him, and he told me everything. I enjoyed listening to him, though I knew that the western Resort team members were helpless. They had to speak this way, especially to someone who had worked as the Director of the Central Bureau of Investigation (of India.). I smiled and came back home without bothering to check it out in Pune.

In India and other countries, wherever I travelled, I was more than welcome, even though Osho International had sent out messages against me to the whole world. Most Osho lovers were friendlier than ever, inviting me to conduct meditation camps in their cities. I had no such desire, but I found myself becoming busier and busier doing this. I was also editing the Osho World monthly magazine and relating to the wider media.  Thanks to the Internet, it was possible to communicate with fellow travellers more swiftly, relate with them, and feel free as an individual. The commune, the sangha, has been growing enormously all over the world, and I have remained connected with old timers, whilst thousands of new people have been added to the Osho sangha in this way.

Our original dispute with the Resort management was partly about the issue of the copyright of Osho’s work. The Resort managers had by that time started threatening centres who hosted our meditation camps – also with banning. Most sannyasins/centres did not bother with these threats. Editors of some Indian newspapers told me that Ma Sadhana (Resort management) had told them not to publish my articles, but the newspapers declined this edict.   Swami Devendra (Resort management) also told publishers not to publish books written or compiled by me, but the publishers ignored him. The publishers were then told they would be given more Osho books to publish – if they stopped publishing books by me, and vice versa they would not get any more titles if they continued to publish books by me. In this way, Osho International applied psychological methods of greed and fear with those who were friendly to me, but they never succeeded. It was always amusing for me to see this.

As years passed, I felt no pull to come to Pune as I had before – to fight, to challenge anything, or even to visit. Some people kept asking me, “Why don’t you go to Pune? It has been your home, your Master’s place. Claim it, we will support you in any way you want. How can they do this to you? That place belongs to you as much as it belongs to them. You are making them more powerful by not opposing them. It is your fault if they become corrupt dictators.” People would say many things like this, and though the remarks were provocative, I would not get agitated. I did not feel that going to the Resort was going back to “our” sangha. The sangha is not confined to just one place, it is all over the world.

Now with Facebook, the sangha is even more interconnected. So many new people have joined. The friends on my Facebook page often meet me during meditation camps I happen to facilitate anywhere in the world.

Seven or eight years ago before Facebook existed I went to Iran and Kuwait. About 100 people came to meet me in Iran because they had gotten the information about the events I was holding there over the Internet. Now I have just seen that even in Pakistan there are Osho lovers there who have created an Osho Foundation in that country.

In this light it is really fortunate that social networking mediums have spread, that these avenues are now established. The control-freaks and the old rotten minds of the world that want to dominate others are becoming powerless. In our Osho lover’s community this shift started when oshoworld.com won the case allowing them to use the name Osho on their website name. Then Osho Friends International won the trademark case in the US. Now the more the people at Osho International, Zurich, and the Resort management claim an Osho monopoly, the more they become ridiculed. They have become a laughing stock, because they have been preaching about change but are unable to see how the world is changing – and at what speed.

All this is amusing to me, and I don’t feel any bitterness in my heart towards them. The time is changing very fast, and the people who continue to claim ownership of something which is universal, as free and fresh as the morning breeze, will become irrelevant. Why make them feel important by fighting them, and wasting our energy on them? Give this energy to meditation, and celebrate and rejoice. Nobody can stop us from sharing our Master’s vision with the world at large. Be creative, and you will find so many interesting ways to do this. I am saying all this based on my own experience.

(This article first appeared in Viha Connection)

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39 Responses to Celebrate and Rejoice

  1. shantam says:

    Millions of catholic priests when put their wisdom together, cannot create one Jesus. Same way, even if all the sannyasins start taking meditation camps, it can not create that “Ah! This” of Osho, Pune…But surely we can crush that small breeze of rose with a single puff of a Camel!
    With a wide range of experience with print and electronic Media, Keerti could have become the instrument to bring down the regime at Pune, but he preferred to be a meditation camp facilitator, the job he learned after the exile from Pune.

  2. alokjohn says:

    I think it must be very difficult for Pune to deal with Keerti. He is obviously sincere, but I think his mind is still dominated by Hindu conditioning. From all the accounts that I have read, Keerti is creating something like a religion which Osho was against.

  3. Parmartha says:

    Shantam – trust you to come up with this. The Resort management cannot be deposed, if it is not meant to be it will wither away in the end. And should it do so, then there are clearly sincere people like Keerti to carry on. The obsession with a single place and single acerage of ground shows gross lack of intelligence. The sannyas sangha as Keerti says is everywhere, and that is much easier now with modern technology than it was when Osho first said it in the late seventies.
    As far as I can see Keerti was right to “give up” with trying to gain control of the Pune ashram. His spirit was drenched during all the time he spent with Osho, and clearly continues – witness the number of people who come to Osho through him.

  4. Parmartha says:

    I dont see Alok, that Keerti is trying to create a religion. But I do think that, perhaps inadvertently, Arun (Osho Tapoban) is – someone who you have been on record as admiring.

  5. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    Didn’t keerti lambast sannyasnews about a year ago….saying he would never contribute again ‘cos we didn’t deserve him….i must say i never met the fellow so i cant say anything maybe i don’t .. he may well be right……and …on the same note….if its true that maroon robes and white robes are not used in Pune meditation camps (according to a neelam letter on keerti’s website).. then they can’t be all bad in osho megalopolis…What irks me the most about any of these so called osho centres is that they ‘all’ (okay the three i can count ) have the official line ‘guaranteed to guide you inwards’..
    I stopped actively (non-)ambitiously meditating when i realised i couldn’t get my money back from a combination of poor effort, unreliable results and paper thin guarantees from people whose only credibility was that they could gather for corporate swooning or various forms of interpersonal abuse… its highly unusual that there is any in-house forms of perestroika(openness) antwhere in the known sannyas world…,as, being an out and out loony tuner trouble maker like osho was /is conveniently forgotten in the mad rush for holy inward looking beatificence (i just made that word up.. its the rebel in me i s’pose )…

    What makes an osho centre is ahemm…being ‘open’ , being ‘available’, owning your stuff, talking about oneself ad infinitum, hugging, smiling more often than when shopping, being a little bit more human than schooling trained you for, appearing more intelligent than you actually are by saying ‘in the moment’ and ‘awareness’…. laughing often, behaving yourself through the fidgety bits of a discourse and not playing with your iphone,and generally getting laid as often as is humanely possible whilst not giving a toss about anyone or anything that stops you from being big, bold and beautiful otherwise known as being a self appointed lover of osho…if all that adds up to a life well lived without regrets….please send me the address on a postcard…otherwise ,well ,pull the other one it’s got bells on..

  6. shantam says:

    With a rough estimate, there were 5 to7 thousand sannyasins who were enjoying the company of Osho, His commune, His live Talks and meditation techniques, now most of them in their 50´s & 60´s talk about Advaita and individual effort…
    To see these self sufficient meditators, one can remember that cat, who went on Pilgrimage after eating 100´s of mouses. (Sou Chuhe kha ke billi haj ko chilli)

  7. Lokesh says:

    Remember also that the greatest master is not the one who gathers the most disciples around his or her self but the one who is instrumental in creating new masters in their own right, who are no longer in need of a master and create love and awareness in the world where none existed previously. The sannyasins who have evolved are free agents, independent souls who are liberated from the need of an outside manifestatation of that which is, by it’s very nature, an inner phenomena.

  8. deva ashik says:

    So sorry that the tale of someone who just is and does , apparently for the heart and from the heart, prompts accusation of setting up a religion.

    Keerti is a good man so is Arun.
    it seems that Dr Amrito and the caretakers in Pune are keeping themselves in the comfort they got used to by getting close to Osho. they played their part but the game or group has moved on.

    I wish we had one speck of that experience today . But we must do what we can and be kind and loving with all of our friends and lovers, wherever they may appear from.

    Bless you all Yahoo to everyone

  9. sannyasnews says:

    Just a couple of corrections. Martin, no we are not aware of any such comments from Keerti about sannyasnews.
    Shantam, all the sannyas statistics are exaggerated. The numbers were always put out by the publicists who made them bigger than they were.
    As for the numbers intensely actually living and working with Osho, in Pune one, on the Ranch, etc were never actually ever above 2,000. Of course there were lots of visitors, etc but I am talking of people who somehow at that time “gave up their lives” for the Master. That very act was perhaps an even greater transformative thing that being in the Buddhafield itself.
    The echo of that experience is much more likely to be found by what you would call the younger set, in communes led by sannyasins who have become enlightened, of which there are a few, and who sustain Buddhafields.

  10. r p macmurphi says:

    it`s a funny thing,have you ever noticed that the moment anyone claims to be doing osho`s work,some other guy who is also doing osho`s work,(often with a different coloured mug), bangs right into his face!
    why is that?

    i surmise there must be(at least) two possible reasons:
    first,they can`t help it.its obsessive compulsive behaviour,an addiction.
    the proponents can`t help themselves.
    after all,why would wanna-be presenters of egolessness as a solution to the world`s evils want to be seen,as they inevitably are, as acting with all the mendacity,anger,deviousness and shiftiness that is usually associated with the “ego”?

    second,it`s all,like the ancient mythic poets would have it,a game,a play,a bloody good ruck,just for the hell of it,where the gods accuse each other of cheating at dice,and in the ensuing fracas, no one ever finds out who was actually cheating.
    in fact,it turns out that those “gods” were all colluding together behind the scenes,like actors sharing a drink in the green room of the theatre,to keep the world in existence,the fracas going and the (o)show rolling ……..

  11. alokjohn says:

    parmartha,
    I do not think keerti is deliberately trying to create a religion. But I think his mind is informed by deep Hindu conditioning, as is Arun’s. That is why both Delhi and tapoban have a slightly puritan feeling about them. Anthony said the essence of osho’s teaching is that you are thrown back on yourself to make every decision; there are no rules. But I don’t think Keerti and Arun understand this. I think they think people “should be meditating.”

    PS, in spite of this, Arun’s camps are wonderful. You go deep in meditation.

  12. r p macmurphi says:

    re.hindu conditioning.
    keerti did say here on sannyasnews a while back that he saw vivek`s suicide as a form of sati.
    is that hindu conditioning or a man making a sane comment?

    of course the forebears of the folks who run the resort were the guys who outlawed the practice of sati in 1827.

    did some one say “ne`er the twain shall meet”?

    • Dharmen says:

      Did he really say this? (where?) don’t remember ever having seen it myself but then again I haven’t read every word we’ve published. All the back articles and comments are still here, great if you can come up with a reference.

      • Parmartha says:

        More than one Keerti has posted at sannyasnews.
        This Keerti is Chaitanya Keerti. The quote you gave R.P. does not ring true to me. Reference please.

        • r p macmurphi says:

          i would like to refer my learned friends to the conversation between frank and swami chaitanya keerti on the 30th november and 1st of december 2009,on the thread “what happened to nirvano”..
          swami chaitanya keerti wrote:”she(nirvano,vivek) could not imagine living after he was gone.it was going to happen quite soon.she was very intuitive.she chose to commit suicide…”
          frank,in his reply asked: “are you saying it was a modern instance of sati using pills instead of fire.is that it?”
          keerti,in his answer repeated the question thereby making it clear to whom the reply was directed and wrote the following:
          “frankly speaking,you do sometimes get it right”.

          • dharmen says:

            Good research. I looked for a reference and never found one! Not sure what this says about Keerti’s ‘condtioning’. if you go with the suicide theory (and we’ve got accident and murder to choose from too), modern day sati is not too much of a stretch.

  13. shantam says:

    Alok John, seems like you have a right analytical training as a born Christian to find the truth through the paragraphs, if not from Bible, let it be from Osho. Keerti is one of those dedicated disciple, who is following the each and every step as meditation camp facilitator as it was during Osho´s life time, where as his other colleagues like Arun and Chaitanya Bharti have their own band of dedicated followers. Surely many people find it easy to relax when some brand name is telling them to breath deeply and go inside..

  14. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    yes i stand and sit corrected… i will now have to do what no decent therapised sannyassin, in the image of osho , has ever had to do (and here i’m deeply inspired that ‘He’ never ever admitted to one in public or at all )……It is with the hand of history upon my shoulder, and i don’t say this lightly oh noo..
    ” Friends, beloveds,….I erm made a ..gulp ooops .. serious error of ….i mean i was misquoted .. no i was badly advised .. no okay ….( in the true tradition of all Osho therapists under threat of legal proceedings for false advertising) i have to admit : I MADE a Mistake…
    gnaaaaaaaaaarghhhhh……..

    don’t all gloat at once….

    well actually what i was remembering was the fact that on 9 March, 2010 at 6:48 am our cousin brother Chaitanya Keerti said of another cousin brother ”I don’t think he would get into any debates happening here on this forum.’ (because )******* is a poet and a writer, a sensitive person and simple human being.”

    Since then nary a word has been spoke by either cousin brother , of his other cousin brother, to us cousin brothers in a beloved type contribution type way…

    If my surmise was incorrect then like David Cameron said, ”in retrospect we all wish things would have been different”…How true that is….

    I do hope this adds to the current debate about who is more ‘in their hearts’..which is a great old therapeutic one liner designed to do the great work…in fact i’m not sure if i should continue with this post as i cannot confirm if I am in my heart or not.I’m just checking…..
    blip blip blip.. yes it seems fine….

    I really should be on holiday from typing here as I intended ; doing what is known in university circles as having a sabbatical or ‘doing a keerti’ ..and instead write poems about the unity of the illusion of the unity as seen through the wonderful world of wasps….or perhaps some other non-stinging insects….
    So apologies to CK and I hope everything works out for the best in the fashionable world of Osho’s mistake vision… with no cheap designer imports from anyone.. and that we all find what we are looking for… we will wont we ?? Even if .. erm ….we fuck it up over and over again….??
    Here’s to doing it arse upwards and…… apologising….glug glug glug……
    cheers and ttfn….

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  16. Lokesh says:

    Whenever I hear about someone doing Osho’s work I have a good look and usually that person is doing their own work and it is helped by saying that is actually not their work but Osho’s. All this Osho’s legacy is a puzzling business, because I reckon that Osho’s legacy is at best a confusing one.
    Osho did many people a big favour coming up with his active meditations myself included. He also came away with some brilliant social, relationship ideas etc. He also came away with some ridiculous nonsense. Poona one went from being the most open sexual scene on the planet to the most daft….wear rubber gloves, condoms and no kissing because it transmits AIDS…if you were caught breaking the rules and reported you were threatened with expulsion…hey, lets not even get into the mass steralization number.
    I reckon if there is such a thing as ‘Osho’s work’, sannyasins can do that work by being who they are. The days of organizational setups are a thing of the past. No need to worry and judge the ones who are running the resort…they will all be dead soon and busy judging themselves. Amen.

  17. shantam says:

    Am i the only one at sannyasnews writers team who has got some substantial experience of final phase of Osho´s in body work, commonly known as Pune 2? Most of the writers give the feeling as if seasons stoped changing, once they came back wiser to real life after the youthful fency.

  18. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    According to big P, he who has confessed-eth to be-eth on the path-eth here through his august organ, the sunshine news..Keerti is drenched-eth in osho-ness..surely Big P mean-eth that thus is the CK of seekers ‘self absorbed’…

    As for me-eth many have come and many have gone-eth, and most-eth have also considered me as being on the path ,and thus of the hermetic tradition…thus recognising both in me-eth and how truly path-etic-eth i am….

    Here also endeth-eth the lesson in paying an Osho therapist-eth to look-eth unto them so that you feel-eth better about all manner of things-eth …..often and rapturously..and drencheth the soul…

    Now i really must pith-eth off…for otherwise the great moderator may come and smoot me asunder..and i do not want-eth the Big P to rain down upon me thus-eth..

  19. shantam says:

    Freedom is such a fundamental value in Osho´s way, that few patriarch minds have taken a stick in their hand and saying, ” Guys..It´s time to be free”…Amazing is the capacity of human mind…it can create shit out of choclate by steping over it time and again.

  20. Arpana says:

    Marty old chap.
    I’d be interested to hear a mission statement vis a vie your skepticism about sannyas, people with Osho sannyas names. The ashram, but without the piss taking. :) ))

  21. Arpana says:

    Greetings Lokesh,

    Those issues you mention look to me now to be ways of working on us about power, authority. Submission, aggression. Sex. Status. All intertwined. Osho world, unlike everywhere else, isn’t an either or world, This is an either and world.
    All the best

    Arpana

  22. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    anyone else here worship? i mean i worship the source of pleasure.. its neither mind nor emotion…i worship often in fact so i’m bang on with keerti..in the worship business…and what is this source of pleasure ? without religion and yet with devotion…i hear you ask?… well its very simple really..

    the beauty of a beautiful woman
    and all that they have which i want..
    the libido in full flight…
    before it gets shunted off
    into the impenetrable meanderings
    of organised stupidity…

    be simple… and you’ll get really lovely periods of mind blowing pleasure, stillness, silence, soothed and desired,.. without ever mentioning watching your awareness..but instead uttering the devotional phrase.. mmmm you’ve got great tits….and being very very grateful….

    anyone notice the similarities in the language of fulfilled love, sex and desire with the language of aspirational male ambition….everywhere..?

    and if it were a choice for guaranteed success what or who would you really want……

    go ahead call me stupid…but i’m on raglan road with this one very likely until my last breath…..

    On Raglan Road on an autumn day
    I saw her first and knew
    That her dark hair would weave a snare
    That I might one day rue
    I saw the danger and I passed
    Along the enchanted way
    And I said: ‘Let grief, be a fallen leaf
    At the dawning of the day’

  23. r p macmurphi says:

    the trouble with all that “stick a bit of red ash on your forehead and dance around devotionally to a monotonous 5000 year old song with a goofy beatific grin on your face” thing, that seems to pass as “doing osho`s work”these days is that ,frankly,it makes you look like a hare krishna.
    you may laugh,but did you see the collapse and rebirth of the krishnacon movement?
    over 500 child abuse cases brought .the number of actual victims far far more.most of the perprtrators got away with it,many still in positions of power.now the krishnas are playing groovy and inclusive.they are huge fans of of miten and premal and their mantras.
    sai baba devotees will feel at home in these singsongs too,all nicely mushed in there in the guru/mystic india mullarkey.
    any westerner or easterner with half a brain still functioning must realise the folly of feeding in to this, chauvinistic paedophiliac old culture which like the pope and his crew,keep on playing it holy and then both metaphorically and literally f***ing you up the ass….
    excuse my language,but the reality is worse,i can assure you….
    remember oshos description of acharya tulsi the highest jain figure and his crew?it was a 100% abuse scene,osho tried to expose it,but the status quo was too strong.
    osho allowed devotion around him,its true,but he didnt invent it.
    he did invent his meditations.
    i`d say stick to that and let the red ash boys stick their ash up their own…..foreheads.

  24. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    dearest arpana,
    its a heartfelt plea / request of yours…but for that kind of truth you’ll have to read between the lines..

    why …we haven’t even met and your making a pass at me already…how rude ! I’m not that kind of girl…. still, i doooo (flutter flutter) like the way your name makes me think of a holy bit of prayerfulness…(re your q about sannyas names).. mmmm and you seem such a nice boy….

    Arpana , who art in heaven ..
    hallowed be thy name..
    thy bing bong bum
    etc etc

    and me a sceptic ??? I’ll have you know i had a full energy darshan off the ol’ chap… reduced me to gales of trembling laughter for hours …catatonic i was… and i enjoy that to my dying /laughing day….. still there was a price to pay sure.. and that’s the bit that needs tweaking in public over and over again…lest one forget that living means everything that happens.. not just the spiritual version of how it’s supposed to sound to an inexperienced audience of neophytes…..

    and a mission statement ? blimey ? just this once but don’t ask again me old Harpy …..i like short ones without ambition or lathering.. so if you are talking having a mission? (have you not read my a-musings the last two years.. )..i’ve got another favourite from the essenes…
    ‘let yourself be seen by the whole(community) so that the whole ( universal energy, life , divine cake or whatever you wish to say ) may be seen through you…’
    *Teachers note: the more you become evident to others/yourself then the more space becomes fillable by any wandering sweet loving tender ‘otherness’ , that’s seeking to fill up a vacant space. (see i said it was all sex)

    But the essenes are really far too dried up and old pruney ..so instead i prefer some good old ribaldry ….check my Havel quote on the last blog item…

    Now go forth and shagify…cos you can’t sit around all day being devotional…to me.. :)

    • Arpana says:

      @Marty.
      Do you know I swear I’ve gone another step towards Nirvana. Having the piss taken so subtly has really stirred up my chackra’s.

      Genuflections and Salaams.

      \(^o\) (/o^)/

  25. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    Ahh shantam awakes…. tell you what shants i’ll bet you a triple mcmuffin chicckyburger with ham eggs and a kebab topped pizza with fries that you are free to eat what you want when you want as long as someone else does the dirty work for you…..on some screaming sentient being that isn’t, uhmmm, as free..as you are…

    but hey i won’t swap my conditioning for yours….as in the KPAX film with kevin spacey , the guy in the mental asylum says ‘have you noticed how much human beings stink?’…..Wow you sure used those Pune 2 years getting into your devotional heart…….. Hey and when you decide you’re really free send us a postcard…we’ll be waiting to see if like mooji, you still really don’t give a flying f*** what goes in your mouth…

  26. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    the essenes thing can be found living and thriving in the ‘tell me who you are /satori / enlightenment intensive’ group ..schh don’t tell anyone.. its part of the secret work…why keerti/neelam doesn’t get that osho’s samadhi is a great venue for all things cuckkoo including no mind meditations..is beyond me.. i remember the first time i went to the samadhi..it felt like cold death.. a nutter redrober italian with white gloves and an ugly stern face was busy policing everyones fingers lest they touched the floor, whilst we tried to sit down.in mock silence. i am more than happy to sabotage with piss taking all that holy bollocks and reduce it to ashes..every little bit helps…..i even returned my very own personally osho energised mala years ago after the ranch debacle.. what a relief…does anyone remember that twoddle about hair clippings from his beard in magic boxes to connect you with the divine one..? its the holy shoe brian….

    ps could someone please tell me to stop writing here.. as i think i’m a compo obsesso….
    Parmartha.. i was happy until i agreed to be pasted here all those months ago by your invite.. now see whats happened…i thought after Ko Hsuan i could retire…quietly…aaarrrgghhhh…. i’d never even heard of blogging….brian… brian…..helppppp

    • Parmartha says:

      Sorry Martin,
      one thing you realise as time goes by is in the true spiritual life you cannot retire and cannot take holidays. I hear from “sources” that your whole life has been “one long holiday”, so the corrective is now in force!
      Big P.

  27. Lokesh says:

    Arpana, I think The Who summed it up best when they sang, ‘We won’t be fooled again.’
    I always chuckle when Catholic sannyasins tell me that Rajneeshpuram was a device created by Osho for our awakening. Then again, there is much truth in it. I think the ranch was a great lesson in showing the power of authoratarianism and how manipulated and programmed we are collectively for it. To cartoon it, it showed how easy it is to turn people into facist robots and, if you learned the lesson well, you will never go for that shit again.

    Shantam, what was really special about Poona Two was that you were there. The big difference between One &Two is that in the good old days you could get up close and personal with Osho. You received your instructions directly, not collectively. There was little chance of getting away with bullshit under the master’s eye. The bottom line, as far as my limited understanding goes, you arrive where you need to in order to learn what you must at certain junctures in life. It is none of my business but I’ll say it anyway….your whole One & Two argument appears childish to me. I suggest letting go of it, unless your objective is to make a clown of yourself, something which you are up until now on this blog being most successful at. There is no competition…inner life is each individual’s private affair…a very private affair and not a public enquirey….hey! isn’t that a line from a Dire Straight’s song?

  28. Swami Prem Martyn says:

    Well howdy doosy doo Big P..How’s it goin’ there pardnaaa….Seems like we’re dis-cussin’ them injuns again… I was wonderin about mahh little big horn so i thought i’d mosey on bahhh…….and do that ol’ time religion on em …lets send in the missionaries to teach em fear of de lord……aww shucks….injuns ‘r always trouble…comanche, navajo, ….rajneeshees..huh?Wagonssss hohhhhhh …….

    or a scene in Egypt circa 1923…..
    ”I say Lord Caernarvon did you see that ?”
    ‘Tosh and piddle I say to all that superstitious bunk , Carruthers, have you no mettle man?Pull yourself together…’
    ”But Lord Caernavon I actually saw it with my own eyes..It moved…..and see here the Big P .. ”
    ‘What, man? what?’
    ”The old Geezer.”
    ‘Giza?’Big P? That’s a rod he’s holding surely…..
    ”Yes ,Geezer..the immutable silent one…he actually SPOKE..”
    ‘ Ahhh , You mean the Sphinx of Cam-den and Gi-Za he who is known as Par-mar-thun?He did what? Pull yourself together man, its all tosh and poddle..You know the Sphinx only pointeth the way …he cannot speaketh ‘
    ”….and those who hear him, Caernarvon will, will, gulp,..be drenched-eth…”
    ‘What did he say, man?’
    ”oh nothing important really, something about India’s batting being rubbish at the moment..”
    ‘Ah yes verily for so speaketh The Big P.Tell no-one Carruthers, no-one…”
    ———-

    —-About those sources…..how much do you want …cash- like?… no questions…….
    Eternal holiday? nonsense…i’m busy getting women to pay the rent.. its spiritual prostitution of the highest Kali-bar..they have me by the balls .. so to speak….and its dangerous work…you haven’t seen her eyes !!

  29. i think the problem today is that everyone’s “interconnected”. Not in a positive way either, Keerti says with the advent of Facebook and other social media, “the sangha is even more interconnected”….. from afar, a distance; no “up close and personal” contact… easy to be interconnected in this way.. the chicken shit way… the big pussy way… tough monkeys from the trees deep in a distant forest… face to face, taking the biggest gamble of one’s life and coming into personal contact with a mystic— not this generation of pussy boys and girls. Talk and blogging is easy and cheap… Hey, it’s nice to see the pussy boys, Lokesh and shantam back in the groove.. Lokesh: you’re still a flaming Scottish asshole for banning me from your facebook page. shantam- stick with facebook, there are more like you posting everyday.

  30. Martyn- if you shave off that goatee you might regain some of your lost sanity. just the opposite of Samson, where he lost his strength when he lost his hair, you’ll lose your insanity if you lose your whiskers… cheers and pleasant dreams

  31. sahasi says:

    I don’t understand the obsession with Osho’s work. Fundamentalists speak in those terms. Would be great to be able to live naturally with others and support each others silence, but it’s not happening right now and you can’t force it, it has to happen organically . Went to Nepal to Arun’s place last year and was quite disappointed. He is turning Osho into a Jesus figure and he is self appointed pope.

  32. shantam says:

    Sahasi, may be what Arun is doing is the best in the context of Nepal, still one of the most underdevloped land, so poor that most of the brothals in India are having Nepalisse girls as the premium product.
    In this social background, Arun is creating a wave of self confidence, pride and self esteem in the Nepali youth. Look in this way too, what was the need for a western person like you to go that far. Surely, there is a vacuum in the local market.

  33. shantam says:

    In hidesight, Osho´s Pune would have more allround growth with an Indian crook sannyasin on the hot seat rather than a morally upright western disciple.
    Coming soon,my impression of a day in 1992-93(?) when a fellow inner circle member was stripped naked from his postion in Buddha hall before thousands of eyes by morally upright colleagues. It´s a story of greed, intrigue, rivelery, jealousy and domination. It is a story how clash of small components push the space ship into crash landing.

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