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@NP

“We don’t really know.”

Fact is, I know.

Because you are the only one who tried to answer and I don’t want that all these idiots here jump on me again, at least I give you a hint.

Ever heard of ‘surrender’?

The question is:

Do you think Osho is an ordinary voyeur or is there another reason, and what could this be?

Yes, certainly one can say, Erin was addicted to Osho. So she was not free to choose. Drunken in the buddhafield one does things that one normally does not do. Waking up from the dream, one has to live with the trauma.

Just one question, SD:

Had Erin the freedom to say No? Yes or No?

Ok, SD, I try once more.

Either I say there is free will then people are responsible for their doing.
Erin and Osho.

Or I say the Buddhafield was so strong that there was no choice, people had to do things.
Also […]

Ok, SD, I can understand that it is special in a collective energy-field.

Maybe there is no freedom to choose, not for her, not for Sheela, but then also not for Osho.

Problem is only if one talks […]

Lokesh, is your brain still ok? Jokes you don’t get because too serious.

In your world she is the victim, certainly.

Has she given up the freedom to choose because of being a sannyasin?

Is the Ashram a Gulag?

SD, I think Erin plays a bit the victim.

And this after this many years.

She was 25 years, certainly not a helpless child, for example, that was abused by her father.

I say it again, she could have said “Stop” […]

Funny interpretation, Garima. I like it.

@ NP

“Why the secrecy?”

Simple reason, he did not want that people become hysterical like you.

Lokesh, I see your doubt.

You think, now this Osho has betrayed the trust of female disciples, maybe he has betrayed me too.
Maybe he is a fraud, maybe he is not enlightened at all?

I say, don’t worry, he is […]

I think the Master is no therapist.

Things happen around him, maybe he is aware, maybe not.

To blame it all on him is a bit too easy.

I know why you waste your time, Loco.

Because there is a deep longing for understanding in you.

@NP

It depends what the lesson was to learn for the disciple.

If the lesson was to trust herself and learn to say No, then she missed it in the situation.

And certainly it is maybe more difficult to say No to […]

“Buddhas do not trick their female disciples into giving them blow jobs.”

This you cannot know because you are not a Buddha.

Maybe it’s a new lineage called the Blow-job-lineage.

But you should repent that you […]

Seems you are the only one who is childish here, Lokesh.

Trusting Osho does not mean that you are no more responsible for your life.

Yes, Loco, Osho was certainly the sugar-daddy for all the women.

It was not only a case of trust but also of saying “No”. But this your dumb mind cannot understand.

You have a strange picture of me, SD. But what to say, it’s your choice.

I did read the article again and strange, I did not find anything about rape.

I mean she was 25 years and felt good that she was getting […]

The general question is:

Can an unenlightened being judge the behaviour of an enlightened one?

Yes, SD, you can judge me as misusing a quote, this is your freedom.

I did read the talk “for a start”.

At the end of the day you live in your world and I live in mine and we can settle the case.