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And that misjudgment of Sheela wasn’t a small issue, look what happened because of it.

Why expect anyone, even an enlightened person, ‘one with Life’ etc. to be any sort of reliable expert on or be automatically […]

Loco, do you really think you can impress
me with your little provocations?

Now you even try parroting the parrot.
This is really far out!

Things are simple, you reveal what you want to reveal.
I reveal what I […]

“What happenings?”

The examples I listed, of course.

“He said enlightenment does not mean that he knows that his room is bugged.

So I guess enlightenment does also not mean that he knows that Sheela was the […]

I doubt Satchit comes from a Catholic background. His background is more rooted in having read a few Osho books and spiritual books. Everything he says, more or less, sounds like he is parroting something he has […]

What happenings you mean, SD?

There are so many happenings happen.

He said enlightenment does not mean that he knows that his room is bugged.

So I guess enlightenment does also not mean that he knows that […]

So, in your terms, Satchit, what you call “the real self” is incapable of making a mistake, in any area of life?

How then do you explain the “happenings” (your term again) I’ve mentioned?

By saying it’s our […]

That’s not true. SD, only he would be worthy of trust.

Because he has lost his separated self.
And his real self would be the same as your real self.

I would say the real self makes choices for him, the ego has […]

NP, do you sing Johnny Jordan songs in your sleep?

I know that it requires guts, Lokesh.

And I know that you did not have these guts.

Otherwise you would have been enlightened long ago, bro.

PS:
I suggest you reread my text.
I did not pretend being enlightened.

Frank, your compassion knows no bounds.

@Lokesh

I lived in England so long I like ‘Monty Python’ more than André van Duin! And you’re right, I do have a beard…bit of a love-hate relationship…occasionally I shave it off, only to grow it again.

But Satchit, you don’t appear to have really considered the implications of your view of the experience of ‘an enlightened one’. I don’t think it’s necessarily always quite how you say it is.

Does an enlightened […]

I think you guys are being too hard on Satchit here.

I`m sure that he must have had some pretty deep and devastating experiences of emptiness in his life.

Like when FC Bayern lost to that mickey mouse Spanish […]

Very true, Lokesh. Real spiritual exploration confronts you with a load of difficult questions: What if you lose something essential? What if you end up crippling your spiritual self? The stakes become a lot […]

I just wanted to add this quote from Osho…

“Q: Are you celibate?
A: No, why should I be? I am just natural, why should I be unnatural? If you want to meet celibates you go to a Catholic monastery, and you will […]

I hear people like Satchit using words like ‘emptiness’, ‘nothingness’, ‘egoless’ etc., which in turn makes me think that if they really entered an egoless space they would in all probability shit their pants. […]

I like ‘emptiness’, it does not make me sad.

But there are also other words for the same reality:

Oneness, divineness, egolessness, nirvana, non-duality, and so on….

SD,

For me it would be an interesting question how far one can understand the
phenomenon of enlightenment by us unenlightened ones.

If you ask me, these ‘faults’ you mention are judgements from […]

NP, krptonite! I’m no Superman so no problem there. As Donovan sings in ‘Sunshine Superman’…
“Superman or Green Lantern ain’t got a-nothin’ on me
I can make like a turtle and dive for your pearls in the sea, […]

SD,

Emptiness also suggests that ‘nothing is happening in the consciousness’ anymore.

Imo this is not the case: thinking, feeling etc. are still there – each having one aspect of clarity and one of emptiness. […]