I still think growing a huge Indian python is a better way to deal with the rats than poison (remaining on topic).

An Indian python surely liberates them from their bodies, with consciousness?

I have heard that aspartame (which is an ingredient in diet-coke and Coca-Cola) has been found to cause cancer in rats in lab experiments.

Yes, they sure are clever animals, just like the Chinese portray them in their horoscope, and they would have been well clued up on the whole scene in the Ashram, and all of the sannyasin schedule, including the White Robe Brotherhood, the time people were getting up and going for dynamic, who was fucking who, what Osho was eating for dinner (and this was the same meal day in, day out, according to some reports) and where the sweets were stashed.

I have also heard about the Chinese eating dogs and bees and everything else, like you too. Mind you, tribal people living in the jungles and the tipis also eat pretty much everything that moves too.

Are humans “the crown of creation”?

“You are the crown of creation.
You are the crown of creation,
And you’ve got no place to go.

Soon you’ll attain the stability you strive for,
In the only way that it’s granted:
In a place among the fossils of our time.

In loyalty to their kind
They cannot tolerate our minds.
In loyalty to our kind
We cannot tolerate their obstruction!

Life is change.
How it differs from the rocks.
I’ve seen their ways too often for my liking.
New worlds to gain.
My life is to survive and be alive
For you.”

Lyrics by Jefferson Airplane:
https://youtu.be/uOrb0G0tw08

It was 7pm, outside ‘Miriam’s’. Usually a bustling, busy canteen full of smelly, noisy people, we knew that if you were lucky enough to get here in one piece at this time in the day it was unusually quiet.

The giant fuckers would be sitting in the big tent for a couple of hours, sitting, along with periods of laughing, gibbering nonsense sounds and clapping. It was the perfect chance for us to grab a snack. You had to be wary of attention of the local ashram cat, however.

“Has the guy in the Rolls Royce shown up yet?”, shrieked Den.

“No, but they’ve all headed over there. He’ll be there soon,” I squeaked back.

“Watch out for the trays with the blue pellets. They look good but they make you ill.”

Thanks,

Madhu

Audience in any magic show feels awesome at the performance, only the staff knows how much immaculately show is planned.

I think the Lotus Paradise refers to where you are right now, planet earth, not to the commune. Osho speaking on Zen is not saying the commune is a special place.

“ZEN IS JUST ZEN. There is nothing comparable to it. It is unique – unique in the sense that it is the most ordinary and yet the most extraordinary phenomenon that has happened to human consciousness. It is the most ordinary because it does not believe in knowledge, it does not believe in mind. It is not a philosophy, not a religion either. It is the acceptance of the ordinary existence with a total heart, with one’s total being, not desiring some other world, supra-mundane, supra-mental. It has no interest in any esoteric nonsense, no interest in metaphysics at all. It does not hanker for the other shore; this shore is more than enough. Its acceptance of this shore is so tremendous that through that very acceptance it transforms this shore – and this very shore becomes the other shore:

This very body the buddha;
This very earth the lotus paradise.

Hence it is ordinary. It does not want you to create a certain kind of spirituality, a certain kind of holiness. All that it asks is that you live your life with immediacy, spontaneity. And then the mundane becomes the sacred.”

Osho, ‘Ah, This (chap. 1)

NOT public statements made up most likely by those bete noires of yours, Devaraj and Jayesh!

For your last two chapters in your 7:11pm contribution of today, mentioning the shadow work on ´rats´ in minds (quite a fertilized greed as well as other stuff – and its outcome or follow-ups)
and nothing to do with the chaps in rat-animal bodies, being the favourite animals to be used in medicine and pharmaceutical labs by humans as they are easy to handle and thus fertile material and intelligent too.

Couldn´t relate otherwise to that kind of dirty paper presented here at the topic, it seemed to be as forged for me as some testament or the other stuff…and did transport other whatsoever hidden messages.

And couldn´t relate either to the lady’s metaphorical speech about the sooo big rats of 2008…(from the 70s). Or other similiar stuff, coming into its gears.

It is said by the buddhist teaching, one should be very pleased to be born as a human being, to have so many possibilities to interconnect and to live and to love and share, besides eat, shit, sleep, fuck, be fertile and have children, and die (after a little while).

Otherwise, the Chinese horoscope in animal metaphors have the rat character every twelve years; and those people know much about rats and dogs and other creatures that they choose for their yearly cycles.

However, that doesn´t hinder many of those Chinese people from eating slaughtered dogs as a meal, and maybe even rats too?

Well, it is said (we) the humans are the crown of creation, but I sometimes severely doubt it.

Thanks, Swamishanti, for making up a point behind the point, behind a point here – at least.

Madhu