Comments on: Meditation in the Freezer

By: Ashok

Ashok — Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:37:10 +0000

Yes, SD, be rest assured, it was indeed just a little bit of harmless playing around and definitely not meant to be taken seriously. The phrase you had used ‘roots of such a sentimental proclivity’, had stimulated the creative juices of my innuendo-infested mind and so I decided to run with it in my own crazy way. The rest of the post, however, was intended for the most part to be a serious reply.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:56:52 +0000

Ashok, you say, “Well I never! Really Satyadeva….you of all people…telling me to take a look at the ‘root of my sentimental proclivity!!!!”

Just checking – what exactly do you mean by “you of all people” here? Or is it just a bit of ‘harmless banter’?

By: bodhi vartan

bodhi vartan — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:51:24 +0000

Even more craziness. Hehe. (sorry Ashok)

What are the pearl like objects found in monk’s ashes after cremation?
http://www.thecontroversialfiles.net/2014/03/what-are-pearl-like-objects-found-in.html

By: bodhi vartan

bodhi vartan — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:43:42 +0000

When someone falls over in the snow it is always funny. If he hurts himself then it stops being funny. In this occasion, of freezing the guru, nobody is getting hurt so I feel it is ok to continue to have a good laugh.

By: Ashok

Ashok — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 06:11:09 +0000

Well I never! Really Satyadeva….you of all people…telling me to take a look at the ‘root of my sentimental proclivity!!!!’ ….. you ought to be ashamed of yourself! Pleased be advised that my sentimental proclivity is a matter for me and my most intimate tantric partners only!

Now as regards the rest of your post, I think it would be fair to say that we are not too far apart. ‘Ignorant claptrap’ (I personally shudder when I hear the second word in this powerful expression due to my own painful life experiences), and ‘childish foolishness’ (a subject close to my heart ), are both apt and well-chosen in describing the preposterous beliefs and ‘devotee mentality’ you have highlighted. On these very serious matters, we are in agreement, hence my inclination not to treat this thread topic as a laughing matter.

Indeed I think it should be looked at in the context of possible mental illness and/or retarded development or whatever, because for somebody to actually believe the nonsense described in the lead post, would require them to not be in their ‘right minds’ as it were. It surely should not be necessary for me at this point to illustrate what kind of dangerous behavior this kind of deranged mental state might lead to.

Therefore, in conclusion, I would like to say that my kind of ‘understanding and compassion’ translates into having ‘crazy devotees’, locked away in the appropriate institutions where they are neither a danger to themselves or others.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:37:21 +0000

Perhaps “being a sannyasin” is not about indulging in such blindingly ignorant claptrap, holding on to superstitious, infantile hope, unable or unwilling to face the fact of death?

If you’ve responded in similar fashion to this absurd story yourself, Ashok, then perhaps a good look into the roots of such a sentimental proclivity might be in order?

Such childish foolishness shows the limitations of a certain kind of ‘devotee’ mentality, unfortunately all too typical of many Indians, who’ve never been taught differently, or who just refuse to listen to the truth if/when it’s put to them. A good lesson for anyone who feels tempted towards that treacherous way.

By: Ashok

Ashok — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:58:48 +0000

Boooh hooh! (tears are flowing down my cheeks)
Am I the only one around here with a kind, sensitive, generous and sweet, compassionate heart? I thought that opening your heart was what being an Osho sannyasin was all about? I am disappointed, BV, because for some reason I had come to expect something better from you. You had, I felt, in your previous posts, elevated yourself above the level of the hybrid crocodile-cum-hyena, feathered, furred and scaly, pond-life critters that one often encounters hereabouts.

However, in your defence, you did go on to write something which I thought was highly sensible, e.g. “…ponder in case I am holding any beliefs that upon examination might appear as stupid as this thread’s.” Now you’re talking my language. A very wise recommendation indeed, which I think all sannyasins would be wise to heed. For a start, those who think that Osho was a prolific book writer, might like to start pondering, for example…….

By: bodhi vartan

bodhi vartan — Wed, 19 Mar 2014 08:55:29 +0000

Compos mentis interruptus Lokesh… on:

10 February, 2014 at 6:24 pm
http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/3407

…you said you never heard of Timothy Leary. Were you having a senior moment, or being a biggus dickus?

As it happens (recently) I have also been reaching similar conclusion, to perhaps leave the fight to The Young Ones (heard of them?) but it won’t stop me philosophising right through Alzheimer’s and beyond.

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:44:24 +0000

BV, only politics I was ever interested in was Leary’s ‘Politcs of Ecstasy’, back in the sixties. I turned on, tuned in and dropped out. Today, I drop back in from time to time, but prefer to sit on the sidelines and watch as history swirls by in a puff of smoke. Easy rider, doing my own thing in my own time. Osho once claimed to be the ultimate drop-out. I can dig it, man.

By: bodhi vartan

bodhi vartan — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 17:55:23 +0000

Cool. I am looking forward to that. Recently I’ve been meeting some of the sannyasins who have moved-on, so to speak, and into other teachings. I find the inter-phasing and opinions fascinating.

Personally, I would like to see mysticism get into politics through attacking politics.