Comments on: The Lost Osho Lecture from 1984

By: satyamthomas

satyamthomas — Sun, 08 May 2011 16:13:17 +0000

There is certainly some interesting information contained in the series but like all outside sources, the writer fails utterly to understand the “little” people who spent time there imbibing the spirit of the place. I was not a full time resident, spent only 5 months there during the fall of 1984 and spring of ’85 and did decide against asking for permanent residency yet the warmth and love felt from co-workers and friends is indelibly imprinted on my psyche.
It has long been my sense of things that the Ranch served as a device as many things served this function around Osho. If you are truly with Him, all things in life can serve as devices. My trust in the Master remains intact and was so even during the darkest days of Ranch history. I say to hell with the critics. They are simply ignorant and I include in that, so called sannyasins who rejected Osho and worse.

By: Bingo

Bingo — Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:27:48 +0000

Shantam, My Sannyas chi is increasing daily. Regarding meaningful lessons from the past. The whole experience was transformative, not just the ranch but the whole experience of being with Osho and the commune for those years.
I find if difficult to express myself through writing, So I will say this. I have lived a simple life. My master told me to participate, to be present, and to take a risk. To love. To share. To create. To live each moment fully and not be too serious. My master told me to sometimes do the exact opposite
of what I think I want to do, that I might explore avenues I would otherwise never come to know.
He told me to be total, and to go through things, rather than around them. To understand the natural flow of things and to go with that, rather than fight it, and he taught me to be comfortable with my own nature, rather than resist. He told me that sometimes it takes a hammer, and sometimes it takes a hug. He taught me that I dont need to be taught, rather I need to see. He taught me that I am not just an I, but part of a whole, and taught me how to experience that, and live that, and how to communicate that.
For that, I am grateful.

By: shantam

shantam — Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:49:27 +0000

I just wonder whether Samurai´s of Rajneeshpuram has any idea about the present state of Osho affairs. Whether something meaningful lesson has been learnt by the sannyasins or they are just contented to share the stories of those golden days of war and peace.

By: Bingo

Bingo — Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:09:28 +0000

Parmartha, What a coincidence. You walked right into the fire.
I have been reading some of the information from The Oregonian. Devastating.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:36:20 +0000

Hi Bingo,
I was going the other way when you were going to Europe. I was a European commune member invited to Oregon for six months in the work swaps that were going on at that time. Hence perhaps my memory of those last six months Ranch events is a little clearer and based on the experience of being there. Also we knew the National Guard were, as it were, just over the hill, so felt some danger if they were going to arrest Osho as was widely reported. We did have our own guns at the time and did not know how the Rajneesh Peace Police would react to an arrest attempt. I myself and many others felt caught up in something which we certainly did not sign up to.
I remember with friends finding an offbeat trail to walk off the Ranch should such a denouement happen and get to a local road and hitch out of there!

By: sannyasnews

sannyasnews — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:50:05 +0000

The Oregonian newspaper has done a Julian Assange Wikileaks type of information disclosure (only in the last week or so) at

http://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/index.ssf/documents.html

There are 53 documents there. we are not sure if they were already in the public domain, and the Oregonian has just collected them together, or they have only been released after 25 years, as happens in some gov documents in the UK.

Not for everyone, but for those interested plenty to chew on there!

By: Bingo

Bingo — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:19:52 +0000

Shantam, A lot has transpired over these years. I am amazed at the ability of some to recall such details as are being discussed here…. which book, what date, etc. I remember many things from the ranch in detail, but all of the books and dates and other trivia were just peripheral to me. I spent the last 6 moths in the European commune (Premrito offered me the opportunity to go) and of course this means I missed all the turmoil of those last few months at the ranch. I left Amsterdam, and returned to the ranch the day before Osho left, and was at the airport to see him off with all the others. A few days later I would also leave, and never look back. A few weeks ago, a package was delivered to my door step, from an old friend. In it, were several editions of the old “Rajneesh times” newspaper that the commune used to print. Guess it got me to thinking.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:15:44 +0000

Tan, thanks.
I was a commune member at that time. There was definitely something fishy about that day’s video going on, it was even announced that the video would not be shown for technical reasons.
I can only quote you Max Brecher’s words which have the ring of truth to me. (Page 222)
He says:
“After much protest from those in attendance who were not part of Sheela’s inner circle, a watered down version of “Number 20″ was reproduced in the Rajneesh Times. All barbed and resonating insinuations that Rajneeshpuram was functioning under a fascist regime and that Sheela was not the totally reliable conduit of Rajneesh’s vision were edited out. “

By: Tan

Tan — Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:46:45 +0000

I’ve got the book and it’s the discourse 20 all right. It’s a beautiful discourse; in it Osho points out the mistakes made by the masters of the past and categorically emphasizes what he will do to get successful. Quoting him:
“…and remembering that your whole function is to be enlightened, so the torch of enlightenment remains burning. There is no gap. And I’m taking every care that there will be no gap. Bodhidharma will feel jealous of me!” End of the quote.
I can send you the discourse, if you are interested, just tell me how is the best way.

Cheers

By: alokjohn

alokjohn — Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:17:15 +0000

The eight vols of the Rajneesh Bible were retitled.
You can see the re-titles here
http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2274729/0019176357906/

You can prob download them at above link or at http://www.messagefrommasters.com/Ebooks/Osho_Books.htm
or at oshoworld.com