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	<title>Comments on: Wounds and Consequences, by Klaus Rettich</title>
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		<title>By: Klaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2022 07:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, looking at it again, I see different people, various methods and approaches, individuals making their own choices according to what they feel is best.

I do not see a divide there.

Certainly what&#039;s right for me might not be right for you.
That was clear from the beginning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, looking at it again, I see different people, various methods and approaches, individuals making their own choices according to what they feel is best.</p>
<p>I do not see a divide there.</p>
<p>Certainly what&#8217;s right for me might not be right for you.<br />
That was clear from the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/9786#comment-109424</link>
		<dc:creator>Klaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2022 20:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Nityaprem
3 May, 2022 at 6:50 pm

Yeah, indeed, interesting. 

I was contemplating putting up a thread about &quot;Timings of meditation, therapy, love and other experiences&quot;, following this one.

However, I felt it is coming along in a bit of a twisted way. Unclear. Not sharp. Whatever.

All wounds need healing. What causes wounds? For instance, unallowed sadness for a loved one departed. Or on the other hand, joy not expressed. These create tensions in the body. Therapy and bodywork can undo these, possibly.

Sitting, walking, standing silently for hours until &quot;things pass&quot; seems another way to go about it.

In one of his talks Osho spoke about how Sheila P. had sex with a lover in the room next to the room where her husband was dying at the same time;  the emotional pain caused to the husband in hearing the sounds delayed his possible enlightenment.

How and when do opportunities for healing come around? What are the dynamics of our need for (extended) silence, action, words, company?

At the moment, I feel that slowness in going around the actions and encounters in my everyday life is very helpful in order to better observe what is actually going on.

Maybe this all sounds a bit cryptic, right now; last week I ended a 18 months online sessions therapy for the reason that I felt I need to let it sink. And not become ambitious and wanting too much.

Cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nityaprem<br />
3 May, 2022 at 6:50 pm</p>
<p>Yeah, indeed, interesting. </p>
<p>I was contemplating putting up a thread about &#8220;Timings of meditation, therapy, love and other experiences&#8221;, following this one.</p>
<p>However, I felt it is coming along in a bit of a twisted way. Unclear. Not sharp. Whatever.</p>
<p>All wounds need healing. What causes wounds? For instance, unallowed sadness for a loved one departed. Or on the other hand, joy not expressed. These create tensions in the body. Therapy and bodywork can undo these, possibly.</p>
<p>Sitting, walking, standing silently for hours until &#8220;things pass&#8221; seems another way to go about it.</p>
<p>In one of his talks Osho spoke about how Sheila P. had sex with a lover in the room next to the room where her husband was dying at the same time;  the emotional pain caused to the husband in hearing the sounds delayed his possible enlightenment.</p>
<p>How and when do opportunities for healing come around? What are the dynamics of our need for (extended) silence, action, words, company?</p>
<p>At the moment, I feel that slowness in going around the actions and encounters in my everyday life is very helpful in order to better observe what is actually going on.</p>
<p>Maybe this all sounds a bit cryptic, right now; last week I ended a 18 months online sessions therapy for the reason that I felt I need to let it sink. And not become ambitious and wanting too much.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nityaprem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/9786#comment-109411</link>
		<dc:creator>Nityaprem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 17:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Klaus, it’s an interesting contrast, isn’t it, between treatment by religion and treatment by psychotherapy. Of course, as Osho showed, the magic is in the mixture and it’s best to do both — meditate and therapy. 

Yahoo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Klaus, it’s an interesting contrast, isn’t it, between treatment by religion and treatment by psychotherapy. Of course, as Osho showed, the magic is in the mixture and it’s best to do both — meditate and therapy. </p>
<p>Yahoo!</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/9786#comment-107663</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 18:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a misquote, Frank. Do better!!!!!

MOD:
Which quote do you mean, please, Arpana?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a misquote, Frank. Do better!!!!!</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Which quote do you mean, please, Arpana?</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 18:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arps, you say:
&quot;I want to have dealings with individuals who have Sannyas names...&quot; 
Well, there`s Veet Tom; and you can always contact Shantam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arps, you say:<br />
&#8220;I want to have dealings with individuals who have Sannyas names&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Well, there`s Veet Tom; and you can always contact Shantam.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/9786#comment-107657</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 15:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank,

I want to have dealings with individuals who have Sannyas names because I get something positive out of doing so. 

You appear to hang around because you get the opportunity to keep telling everybody you despise them. Why would you do that? Why would you make such a choice? Why would you seek out the company of those you despise? 

I joined a play-reading group a few years back. Not a &#039;spiritual&#039; person in sight. Great bunch. Really enjoyed the meetings. Give it a try. You never know you might meet somebody you don&#039;t look down on!

Here&#039;s the link to Meetup:

https://www.meetup.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>I want to have dealings with individuals who have Sannyas names because I get something positive out of doing so. </p>
<p>You appear to hang around because you get the opportunity to keep telling everybody you despise them. Why would you do that? Why would you make such a choice? Why would you seek out the company of those you despise? </p>
<p>I joined a play-reading group a few years back. Not a &#8216;spiritual&#8217; person in sight. Great bunch. Really enjoyed the meetings. Give it a try. You never know you might meet somebody you don&#8217;t look down on!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to Meetup:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.meetup.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.meetup.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 15:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve had a pretty shitty time the last forty years it would appear, Frank. Pretty much everyone you&#039;ve met is not up to much. 

Thanks for sharing this. Makes me feel fortunate.

I&#039;ve enjoyed engaging with most of the individuals I&#039;ve come across because of Osho. Would have liked more of that. Been something of a solitary journey for me.

I see Sannyas news as more glass is half-full than half-empty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve had a pretty shitty time the last forty years it would appear, Frank. Pretty much everyone you&#8217;ve met is not up to much. </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this. Makes me feel fortunate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed engaging with most of the individuals I&#8217;ve come across because of Osho. Would have liked more of that. Been something of a solitary journey for me.</p>
<p>I see Sannyas news as more glass is half-full than half-empty.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 15:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah,I deserved everything I got.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,I deserved everything I got.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/9786#comment-107654</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank said, &#039;&#039;disciples can be a creepy bunch, they probably deserve it.&#039;&#039;

Do you include yourself in that, Frank, or rather, did you when you were a disciple?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank said, &#8221;disciples can be a creepy bunch, they probably deserve it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you include yourself in that, Frank, or rather, did you when you were a disciple?</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I expect many, if not most gurus feel like that about their disciples at least some of the time.

That might be why you hear so many stories of them knocking them about, getting them to do weird stuff, fleecing them, shagging them and dumping them, badmouthing them etc.

Fair play to them though, disciples can be a creepy bunch, they probably deserve it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect many, if not most gurus feel like that about their disciples at least some of the time.</p>
<p>That might be why you hear so many stories of them knocking them about, getting them to do weird stuff, fleecing them, shagging them and dumping them, badmouthing them etc.</p>
<p>Fair play to them though, disciples can be a creepy bunch, they probably deserve it.</p>
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