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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105251</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2020 14:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Want to really live in the present? Embrace life’s nasty bits, too
By Oliver Burkeman.  

 &quot;If you really want to be here now, forget flowers and sunsets. Contemplate death instead.&quot; Illustration: Michele Marconi/The Guardian

The problem with most books (and articles and podcasts) about “being here now” or “embracing the present moment” is that they really aren’t. As often telegraphed by their cover images (sunsets, flowers, mountain peaks) they’re about embracing the nice bits of the present. And they generally imply that if you follow their advice, you could float contentedly through life, relishing simple pleasures and finding wonder in the everyday. In other words, they’re about the ideal person you might become if you weren’t so prone to irritability, boredom and gloom. So they’re not actually about embracing the present at all. They’re focused on escaping it, in pursuit of a better future.

None of which could be said about Death: The End Of Self-Improvement, the latest book by the spiritual teacher Joan Tollifson. That title alone is a bracing bucket of iced water to the head. Mortality is the ultimate reminder that our fantasies of someday finally becoming perfect are inherently absurd, because that’s not how the journey will end. All we have, in place of that imagined ascent toward perfection, is a succession of present moments – until, one day, we won’t have any more. And “when the future disappears,” Tollifson writes, “we are brought home to the immediacy that we may have avoided all our lives.” If you really want to be here now, forget flowers and sunsets. Contemplate death instead.

Tollifson does so, without flinching. Among other things, the book is a memoir of her own encounters with mortality: her mother’s death, and those of close friends, then an unsparing account of her own experience of ageing – the “sagging, drooping, bulging, wrinkling, and drying up”, then colonoscopies, cancer and chemo, rectal bleeding and stoma bags. Sometimes, the reader wants to flinch. But in a way that’s no bad thing: all of this is part of experience, too. It’s not nice. But any approach to life that brackets it off as some kind of mistake, something that mustn’t be acknowledged, isn’t engaging with how things really are.

And Tollifson’s point, as I grasp it, is that resisting the truth of how things really are is what makes life feel so difficult. She doesn’t claim that embracing unpleasant experiences will stop them being unpleasant. (Indeed, embracing their intractable unpleasantness is arguably the whole challenge.) Rather – and in a way that’s hard to express in words – it stops them being a problem. It becomes possible to be “at peace with exactly how it is, even [including] the not-being-at-peace that sometimes arises”. She quotes the Zen teacher Mel Weitsman: “Our suffering is believing there’s a way out.” There’s freedom, even if there’s no possibility of freedom from the experiences themselves.

We tend to assume, Tollifson writes, that a life of dignity “means being in control, not being overwhelmed by emotion, not screaming or crying in pain, not losing control of our bowels, not losing our minds, and so on”. But perhaps there’s more dignity in deciding not to run from what can’t be outrun. “Old age,” she goes on, “is an adventure in uselessness, loss of control, being nobody and giving up everything.” The challenge is to see which new experiences of decay and decline you’re able to welcome – since they will, in any case, be showing up at your door.

Ain&#039;t this the truth? So liberating to know it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want to really live in the present? Embrace life’s nasty bits, too<br />
By Oliver Burkeman.  </p>
<p> &#8220;If you really want to be here now, forget flowers and sunsets. Contemplate death instead.&#8221; Illustration: Michele Marconi/The Guardian</p>
<p>The problem with most books (and articles and podcasts) about “being here now” or “embracing the present moment” is that they really aren’t. As often telegraphed by their cover images (sunsets, flowers, mountain peaks) they’re about embracing the nice bits of the present. And they generally imply that if you follow their advice, you could float contentedly through life, relishing simple pleasures and finding wonder in the everyday. In other words, they’re about the ideal person you might become if you weren’t so prone to irritability, boredom and gloom. So they’re not actually about embracing the present at all. They’re focused on escaping it, in pursuit of a better future.</p>
<p>None of which could be said about Death: The End Of Self-Improvement, the latest book by the spiritual teacher Joan Tollifson. That title alone is a bracing bucket of iced water to the head. Mortality is the ultimate reminder that our fantasies of someday finally becoming perfect are inherently absurd, because that’s not how the journey will end. All we have, in place of that imagined ascent toward perfection, is a succession of present moments – until, one day, we won’t have any more. And “when the future disappears,” Tollifson writes, “we are brought home to the immediacy that we may have avoided all our lives.” If you really want to be here now, forget flowers and sunsets. Contemplate death instead.</p>
<p>Tollifson does so, without flinching. Among other things, the book is a memoir of her own encounters with mortality: her mother’s death, and those of close friends, then an unsparing account of her own experience of ageing – the “sagging, drooping, bulging, wrinkling, and drying up”, then colonoscopies, cancer and chemo, rectal bleeding and stoma bags. Sometimes, the reader wants to flinch. But in a way that’s no bad thing: all of this is part of experience, too. It’s not nice. But any approach to life that brackets it off as some kind of mistake, something that mustn’t be acknowledged, isn’t engaging with how things really are.</p>
<p>And Tollifson’s point, as I grasp it, is that resisting the truth of how things really are is what makes life feel so difficult. She doesn’t claim that embracing unpleasant experiences will stop them being unpleasant. (Indeed, embracing their intractable unpleasantness is arguably the whole challenge.) Rather – and in a way that’s hard to express in words – it stops them being a problem. It becomes possible to be “at peace with exactly how it is, even [including] the not-being-at-peace that sometimes arises”. She quotes the Zen teacher Mel Weitsman: “Our suffering is believing there’s a way out.” There’s freedom, even if there’s no possibility of freedom from the experiences themselves.</p>
<p>We tend to assume, Tollifson writes, that a life of dignity “means being in control, not being overwhelmed by emotion, not screaming or crying in pain, not losing control of our bowels, not losing our minds, and so on”. But perhaps there’s more dignity in deciding not to run from what can’t be outrun. “Old age,” she goes on, “is an adventure in uselessness, loss of control, being nobody and giving up everything.” The challenge is to see which new experiences of decay and decline you’re able to welcome – since they will, in any case, be showing up at your door.</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t this the truth? So liberating to know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105250</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 17:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Lokesh

https://youtu.be/5p2k55F-uag]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lokesh</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/5p2k55F-uag" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/5p2k55F-uag</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105249</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Shantam, I would not go so far as to say that.

I must admit that of late there has not been much input from the SN regulars. Also people like Frank no longer bother to visit the site and that is a pity. Who knows, maybe due to it being summertime and people have better things to do than write on SN. Nothing lasts forever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Shantam, I would not go so far as to say that.</p>
<p>I must admit that of late there has not been much input from the SN regulars. Also people like Frank no longer bother to visit the site and that is a pity. Who knows, maybe due to it being summertime and people have better things to do than write on SN. Nothing lasts forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam I SIngh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105248</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam I SIngh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rolling stones or fixed stones, without you, Lokesh, this site is boring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rolling stones or fixed stones, without you, Lokesh, this site is boring.</p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105247</link>
		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2020 06:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There are no others&quot; is a device.
It is neither true nor false.

If it helps - good.
If not - forget it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are no others&#8221; is a device.<br />
It is neither true nor false.</p>
<p>If it helps &#8211; good.<br />
If not &#8211; forget it!</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105245</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2020 06:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[!Do you know this proverb, ‘A rolling stone gathers no moss’?&quot;
Perhaps Shanti is familiar with this proverb but I am not.
Shantam, could you explain the proverb&#039;s meaning? Does it have something to do with Mick Jagger?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!Do you know this proverb, ‘A rolling stone gathers no moss’?&#8221;<br />
Perhaps Shanti is familiar with this proverb but I am not.<br />
Shantam, could you explain the proverb&#8217;s meaning? Does it have something to do with Mick Jagger?</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105243</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 21:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah. I do  gather some moss, actually. 

I do find a good two or three day water fast practised in the hot season  acts as a factory reset button for the body. But I have found breaking the fast correctly is the key to maximum benefit.  

Pranayama works in a similar way, but I haven’t done that for a long time. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I do  gather some moss, actually. </p>
<p>I do find a good two or three day water fast practised in the hot season  acts as a factory reset button for the body. But I have found breaking the fast correctly is the key to maximum benefit.  </p>
<p>Pranayama works in a similar way, but I haven’t done that for a long time. </p>
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		<title>By: Shantam I SIngh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105241</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam I SIngh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2020 10:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Swamishanti, 
Do you know this proverb, &#039;A rolling stone gathers no moss&#039;?
Sorry to say, your posts give this impression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swamishanti,<br />
Do you know this proverb, &#8216;A rolling stone gathers no moss&#8217;?<br />
Sorry to say, your posts give this impression.</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105240</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember visiting Ramana Maharshi’s South Indian ashram down in Tiruvanamalai, and checking out the underground area in the nearby temple where the Maharishi meditated all day and was bitten by rats. I was into eating  a traditional South Indian idli for breakfast in those days, just a couple of rice cakes with chutneys. 

I do remember wandering through the narrow streets and finding sweet shops with incredible displays of coloured cakes and confectionery and huge stacks of different sweets, the ones that are made with milk and sugar, and then wrapped in edible silver foil. 

Ramana Maharshi was quite a traditional man. 
As Mooji has said in an interview that is on YouTube ,  when he was with Pappaji he first encountered sannyasins and realised that they saw things in &quot;a different way&quot;. 
Now Mooji is doing the advaita ting in a different style to the Maharshi , with an ashram of his own mon, but enjoying the company of multiple girlfriends. 

Here’s one of Mooji’s vids on the ‘Song Of The Free’, the Advadhuta  Gita: 

https://youtu.be/cy3RkWuD4WU

&quot;Truly you are the unchanging essence of everything 
You are the unmoving unity 
You are boundless freedom.&quot;
ADVADHUTA GITA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember visiting Ramana Maharshi’s South Indian ashram down in Tiruvanamalai, and checking out the underground area in the nearby temple where the Maharishi meditated all day and was bitten by rats. I was into eating  a traditional South Indian idli for breakfast in those days, just a couple of rice cakes with chutneys. </p>
<p>I do remember wandering through the narrow streets and finding sweet shops with incredible displays of coloured cakes and confectionery and huge stacks of different sweets, the ones that are made with milk and sugar, and then wrapped in edible silver foil. </p>
<p>Ramana Maharshi was quite a traditional man.<br />
As Mooji has said in an interview that is on YouTube ,  when he was with Pappaji he first encountered sannyasins and realised that they saw things in &#8220;a different way&#8221;.<br />
Now Mooji is doing the advaita ting in a different style to the Maharshi , with an ashram of his own mon, but enjoying the company of multiple girlfriends. </p>
<p>Here’s one of Mooji’s vids on the ‘Song Of The Free’, the Advadhuta  Gita: </p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/cy3RkWuD4WU" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/cy3RkWuD4WU</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Truly you are the unchanging essence of everything<br />
You are the unmoving unity<br />
You are boundless freedom.&#8221;<br />
ADVADHUTA GITA</p>
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		<title>By: Shantam I SIngh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/8933#comment-105236</link>
		<dc:creator>Shantam I SIngh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2020 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, SD, 
&#039;Tainted&#039; is the word my brain was searching for. 

I am waiting for fellow-writers&#039; point of view over this post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, SD,<br />
&#8216;Tainted&#8217; is the word my brain was searching for. </p>
<p>I am waiting for fellow-writers&#8217; point of view over this post.</p>
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