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	<title>Comments on: Unconditional Giving &#8211; an Osho-Inspired Experiment, by Prem Ritvik</title>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Lokesh ( at  9:13 am)

Lokesh, there is no need to ´help me out´ about the devastating effects of public rumours* so far, and there is no need with the graphic design you added with the rolling pin as a warning/blackmailing or whatsoever.

Sure enough, you´re sometimes looking for a target for your performance as raging bull - and you imagined to have found one.

What I wrote about myself you didn´t and don´t relate to at all!
Nothing can be done about it, more so as your aggressive, creative stances are mostly not moderated at all over the time, I´m experiencing, writing here. But often even appeciated by the MODs and others who like to rage too...

You know, Lokesh, as in  real life being harassed for a very long time by gang stalking perpetrators, I really loved to reaf Frank´s diversifications about the utter misuse of  &#039;Shadow-Work&#039; as a psychic black magic and as I would say, an obnoxious weapon to de-personalise a human being, and the unconciously raging stuff also for groups -  is just one in its following. Sometimes even a collective riot!

And I know that, Lokesh, having been targeted that way since quite an unbearable long time.

So - I really loved to read what Frank did contribute recently re that aspect.
And can only recommend it also to others.
And there may be certainly - also for you - something in it, I suggest 

That´s where I´ve been looking inside mostly these days, amongst trying my best to get my everyday life together, so to say.

As this kind of Black Magic, one can say, is part of so many so-called chats, also of our SN/UK one, I´d say. 

Madhu!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lokesh ( at  9:13 am)</p>
<p>Lokesh, there is no need to ´help me out´ about the devastating effects of public rumours* so far, and there is no need with the graphic design you added with the rolling pin as a warning/blackmailing or whatsoever.</p>
<p>Sure enough, you´re sometimes looking for a target for your performance as raging bull &#8211; and you imagined to have found one.</p>
<p>What I wrote about myself you didn´t and don´t relate to at all!<br />
Nothing can be done about it, more so as your aggressive, creative stances are mostly not moderated at all over the time, I´m experiencing, writing here. But often even appeciated by the MODs and others who like to rage too&#8230;</p>
<p>You know, Lokesh, as in  real life being harassed for a very long time by gang stalking perpetrators, I really loved to reaf Frank´s diversifications about the utter misuse of  &#8216;Shadow-Work&#8217; as a psychic black magic and as I would say, an obnoxious weapon to de-personalise a human being, and the unconciously raging stuff also for groups &#8211;  is just one in its following. Sometimes even a collective riot!</p>
<p>And I know that, Lokesh, having been targeted that way since quite an unbearable long time.</p>
<p>So &#8211; I really loved to read what Frank did contribute recently re that aspect.<br />
And can only recommend it also to others.<br />
And there may be certainly &#8211; also for you &#8211; something in it, I suggest </p>
<p>That´s where I´ve been looking inside mostly these days, amongst trying my best to get my everyday life together, so to say.</p>
<p>As this kind of Black Magic, one can say, is part of so many so-called chats, also of our SN/UK one, I´d say. </p>
<p>Madhu!</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is an element of honesty in the world of anonymous, faceless writers! Good to know the facts of virtual world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an element of honesty in the world of anonymous, faceless writers! Good to know the facts of virtual world.</p>
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		<title>By: Prem Ritvik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prem Ritvik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank,
cI ask you to see the biography of the man you have accepted Sannyas from. I don&#039;t mean to say that you have a wrong point, but even right point based on age here is wrong.

It is double standard that sannyasins of a 21 year-old enlightened man tell me I am too young. I can be wrong, maybe for some reason, but don&#039;t give reason of age, I cannot do anything about it.


MOD:
&quot;It is to go too back and watch your videos in your 20s&quot; - What do you mean here, please, Ritvik, it&#039;s not clear. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,<br />
cI ask you to see the biography of the man you have accepted Sannyas from. I don&#8217;t mean to say that you have a wrong point, but even right point based on age here is wrong.</p>
<p>It is double standard that sannyasins of a 21 year-old enlightened man tell me I am too young. I can be wrong, maybe for some reason, but don&#8217;t give reason of age, I cannot do anything about it.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
&#8220;It is to go too back and watch your videos in your 20s&#8221; &#8211; What do you mean here, please, Ritvik, it&#8217;s not clear. </p>
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		<title>By: Prem Ritvik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prem Ritvik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 09:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot understand what you want to convey here, Arpana.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot understand what you want to convey here, Arpana.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 08:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Madhu, you ask, &quot;Why do you bother then?&quot;
That is a pretty dumb question that shows a lack of imagination.

Let me help you out. This is a public blog. Were I to write something totally untrue about you, like, &quot;Madhu and her constant intake of barbiturates and alcohol&quot;, don’t tell me you would not find that a bit weird and probably have something to say in response to such a ridiculous accusation. Or how about, &quot;here is a recent photo of Madhu at the SN convention&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madhu, you ask, &#8220;Why do you bother then?&#8221;<br />
That is a pretty dumb question that shows a lack of imagination.</p>
<p>Let me help you out. This is a public blog. Were I to write something totally untrue about you, like, &#8220;Madhu and her constant intake of barbiturates and alcohol&#8221;, don’t tell me you would not find that a bit weird and probably have something to say in response to such a ridiculous accusation. Or how about, &#8220;here is a recent photo of Madhu at the SN convention&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 23:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quite so, MOD.

Rational means based on or in accordance with reason or logic.
A spiritualist is a person who believes that the spirits of the dead can communicate with living people.

As Guru Spock would say, does not compute.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite so, MOD.</p>
<p>Rational means based on or in accordance with reason or logic.<br />
A spiritualist is a person who believes that the spirits of the dead can communicate with living people.</p>
<p>As Guru Spock would say, does not compute.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 21:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This string has got too much stuff. Being a rational spiritualist, I would surely like to create an article about Psychology of  Euphoria in Master/Disciples circles or in Concerts!

MOD:
Go ahead then, Shantam, join the queue! 

(P.S: I reckon some might dispute that self-definition..).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This string has got too much stuff. Being a rational spiritualist, I would surely like to create an article about Psychology of  Euphoria in Master/Disciples circles or in Concerts!</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Go ahead then, Shantam, join the queue! </p>
<p>(P.S: I reckon some might dispute that self-definition..).</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 20:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is that you talking from experience, Shantam? 

I mean to say, your first &#039;darshan&#039; with Osho was in an Indian airport. I have seen film footage of the occasion. That was not a darshan. It was a chaotic mess. Definitely not the right atmosphere, so it most have been the right doctor, you know the one they call Doctor Feelgood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that you talking from experience, Shantam? </p>
<p>I mean to say, your first &#8216;darshan&#8217; with Osho was in an Indian airport. I have seen film footage of the occasion. That was not a darshan. It was a chaotic mess. Definitely not the right atmosphere, so it most have been the right doctor, you know the one they call Doctor Feelgood.</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh,
&quot;all that guff&quot; I wrote? Why do you bother then?

No - &quot;no silent treatment, or what?&quot;

And no, I´m not entering sleeping times with a cup of camomile tea; but I´m thinking these times of a ´lavender one´as a good rest at night is far from my reach for a very long time.

And as far as a controlled or uncontrolled use/experience with psychedelic substances goes, I don´t know a thing.

Sometimes there&#039;s happening just a strong impression about the different phases of the sannyas sangha , especially in Pune I, and that I´ve been blissfully unaware at that time about the differences re our ´filter bubbles´ (where we came from), as one would call it today.

Dancing the Sufi Dances or attending the famous Music Group - not knowing a ´thing´, feeling united, one can say.

Same about some group-settings - even the shocking ones - like former encounter...I cherish these memories too.

Won´t be able (not willing now) to be a sparring partner about what you like to  
trigger by your response (at 2:05 pm).

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh,<br />
&#8220;all that guff&#8221; I wrote? Why do you bother then?</p>
<p>No &#8211; &#8220;no silent treatment, or what?&#8221;</p>
<p>And no, I´m not entering sleeping times with a cup of camomile tea; but I´m thinking these times of a ´lavender one´as a good rest at night is far from my reach for a very long time.</p>
<p>And as far as a controlled or uncontrolled use/experience with psychedelic substances goes, I don´t know a thing.</p>
<p>Sometimes there&#8217;s happening just a strong impression about the different phases of the sannyas sangha , especially in Pune I, and that I´ve been blissfully unaware at that time about the differences re our ´filter bubbles´ (where we came from), as one would call it today.</p>
<p>Dancing the Sufi Dances or attending the famous Music Group &#8211; not knowing a ´thing´, feeling united, one can say.</p>
<p>Same about some group-settings &#8211; even the shocking ones &#8211; like former encounter&#8230;I cherish these memories too.</p>
<p>Won´t be able (not willing now) to be a sparring partner about what you like to<br />
trigger by your response (at 2:05 pm).</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Levina, to be honest, I never eat chocolate cake...too much sugar.

Madhu, what about all that guff you wrote about me swallowing &quot;stuff&quot;? Giving me the silent treatment, or what? Or maybe you are entering the sleepy time with a cup of camomile tea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levina, to be honest, I never eat chocolate cake&#8230;too much sugar.</p>
<p>Madhu, what about all that guff you wrote about me swallowing &#8220;stuff&#8221;? Giving me the silent treatment, or what? Or maybe you are entering the sleepy time with a cup of camomile tea.</p>
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