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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Veet (Francesco),
&quot;Seconded&quot; - as our beloved last Editor (rarely) used to say....

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Veet (Francesco),<br />
&#8220;Seconded&#8221; &#8211; as our beloved last Editor (rarely) used to say&#8230;.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87539</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 21:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If a community of individuals committed to be themselves, from crying to laughter (and vice versa), is possible;
If the love that has been taught and shared to them, the one that holds them together, is based on the freedom and trust to express even some &quot;no!&quot;;
If these two conditions &quot;happened around a man&quot;, in such a prodigious way that someone even thinks &quot;thanks to Him&quot;...

Then it is possible that a taste of sannyas was present even when a friend of Parmartha said: &quot;Osho? Fuck, no!&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a community of individuals committed to be themselves, from crying to laughter (and vice versa), is possible;<br />
If the love that has been taught and shared to them, the one that holds them together, is based on the freedom and trust to express even some &#8220;no!&#8221;;<br />
If these two conditions &#8220;happened around a man&#8221;, in such a prodigious way that someone even thinks &#8220;thanks to Him&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Then it is possible that a taste of sannyas was present even when a friend of Parmartha said: &#8220;Osho? Fuck, no!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2018 15:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ MODs:

Thanks for showing your way of  understanding re the poem I did send.

Just few  questions to you, please:
Will you be totally unknown - identity-wise - and as sub-editors, as it has been before?
And if  - are you, MODs, ´more affiliated´ (as Jitendra ) with Sannyas and/or with Sannyasnews (like the late founders of Sannyasnews)?

And - as Jitendra (from UK?) is in USA just now for holidays, as you said, what is the result of his deals with the investor who bought the website (and all our data too?). Is that a secret?

Am I too curious in your eyes?

I´m asking because what I felt was a mess in the running of Sannyas News for quite a while  may not at all be what others - like you (?) - feel a ´mess´. 
And for me, the mess mainly was that less and less humans with Sannyasnames posting into the Chat on topics related to one another in a human way.

What do you (sub-editors/MODs) feel and think about such an issue?

Sincerely, and looking forward to your response.

Madhu


MOD:
Madhu, we feel you&#039;re imagining and creating problems that don&#039;t exist. 
E.g. Jitendra has had nothing whatsoever to do with whoever purchased the sannyasnews.com and doesn&#039;t even know who that was or might be (and neither does anyone else). And your data is safe, don&#039;t worry about that.

As for running the site and the Chat, Parmartha established clear guidelines for these which will continue to be followed. 

The main issue is who will be the new editor.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ MODs:</p>
<p>Thanks for showing your way of  understanding re the poem I did send.</p>
<p>Just few  questions to you, please:<br />
Will you be totally unknown &#8211; identity-wise &#8211; and as sub-editors, as it has been before?<br />
And if  &#8211; are you, MODs, ´more affiliated´ (as Jitendra ) with Sannyas and/or with Sannyasnews (like the late founders of Sannyasnews)?</p>
<p>And &#8211; as Jitendra (from UK?) is in USA just now for holidays, as you said, what is the result of his deals with the investor who bought the website (and all our data too?). Is that a secret?</p>
<p>Am I too curious in your eyes?</p>
<p>I´m asking because what I felt was a mess in the running of Sannyas News for quite a while  may not at all be what others &#8211; like you (?) &#8211; feel a ´mess´.<br />
And for me, the mess mainly was that less and less humans with Sannyasnames posting into the Chat on topics related to one another in a human way.</p>
<p>What do you (sub-editors/MODs) feel and think about such an issue?</p>
<p>Sincerely, and looking forward to your response.</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Madhu, we feel you&#8217;re imagining and creating problems that don&#8217;t exist.<br />
E.g. Jitendra has had nothing whatsoever to do with whoever purchased the sannyasnews.com and doesn&#8217;t even know who that was or might be (and neither does anyone else). And your data is safe, don&#8217;t worry about that.</p>
<p>As for running the site and the Chat, Parmartha established clear guidelines for these which will continue to be followed. </p>
<p>The main issue is who will be the new editor.</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87536</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2018 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comes from a man who found shelter:

 &quot;It is nonsense
  says reason
  It is what it is
  says love

  It is calamity
  says calculation
  It&#039;s nothing but pain
  says fear
  It is hopeless
  says insight

  It is what it is
  says love

  It is ludicrous
  says pride
  It is foolish
  says caution
  It is impossible
  says experience

  It is what it is
  says love.&quot;

  Erich Fried

Love to share that poem with you all, and especially in gratefulness with Clive 
(aka Jitendra), Chris Esmond and all other Intimates and Unknowables with or without name. 

With Love,

Madhu

MOD:
Yes, Madhu. It seems the SN site is fixed and for this we owe a huge debt of gratitude to Jitendra (Clive) who took on the considerable task (the site was in a mess) and has gone out of his way to see the job through, even while on holiday in the US, losing sleep in the process due to liaising with the web host trouble shooters in the UK. He took responsibility for it all, despite minimal affiliation with SN or Sannyas, simply because it happened to arrive on his plate, as it were. There’s something great about such a choice, not to mention his determination to complete a complex, often frustrating repair job. So, a big thank you to Jitendra!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comes from a man who found shelter:</p>
<p> &#8220;It is nonsense<br />
  says reason<br />
  It is what it is<br />
  says love</p>
<p>  It is calamity<br />
  says calculation<br />
  It&#8217;s nothing but pain<br />
  says fear<br />
  It is hopeless<br />
  says insight</p>
<p>  It is what it is<br />
  says love</p>
<p>  It is ludicrous<br />
  says pride<br />
  It is foolish<br />
  says caution<br />
  It is impossible<br />
  says experience</p>
<p>  It is what it is<br />
  says love.&#8221;</p>
<p>  Erich Fried</p>
<p>Love to share that poem with you all, and especially in gratefulness with Clive<br />
(aka Jitendra), Chris Esmond and all other Intimates and Unknowables with or without name. </p>
<p>With Love,</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Yes, Madhu. It seems the SN site is fixed and for this we owe a huge debt of gratitude to Jitendra (Clive) who took on the considerable task (the site was in a mess) and has gone out of his way to see the job through, even while on holiday in the US, losing sleep in the process due to liaising with the web host trouble shooters in the UK. He took responsibility for it all, despite minimal affiliation with SN or Sannyas, simply because it happened to arrive on his plate, as it were. There’s something great about such a choice, not to mention his determination to complete a complex, often frustrating repair job. So, a big thank you to Jitendra!</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87535</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2018 20:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your sharing, Jitendra, very touching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your sharing, Jitendra, very touching.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87534</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2018 16:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay. It might be a good idea to set up an email address for receiving articles. Like SNarticles@gmail.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. It might be a good idea to set up an email address for receiving articles. Like <a href="mailto:SNarticles@gmail.com">SNarticles@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87533</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2018 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jitendra, if I write an article, where to send it? I used to email my articles to Parmartha.

MOD:
Not sure yet re where to send new articles - sorry, Lokesh.

Jitendra&#039;s away, supposedly on holiday - but he&#039;s still working very hard indeed to restore the SN site to full working order. Frankly, he deserves huge appreciation for this, especially given he&#039;s actually not that interested in SN or even in Sannyas. But we&#039;ll have to wait a bit longer for normal service to resume. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jitendra, if I write an article, where to send it? I used to email my articles to Parmartha.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Not sure yet re where to send new articles &#8211; sorry, Lokesh.</p>
<p>Jitendra&#8217;s away, supposedly on holiday &#8211; but he&#8217;s still working very hard indeed to restore the SN site to full working order. Frankly, he deserves huge appreciation for this, especially given he&#8217;s actually not that interested in SN or even in Sannyas. But we&#8217;ll have to wait a bit longer for normal service to resume. </p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87532</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2018 12:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lokesh, I agree that SN, if it&#039;s to continue, has to remain true to its founders&#039; purposes. 

Parmartha, Pari and Dharmen were instinctively drawn to and valued the &#039;grass roots&#039; experience and perspective, a &#039;democratic&#039; spirit, and, a couple of months or so before he died, I recall Parmartha agreeing with my description of SN as &quot;an alternative view of Sannyas.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lokesh, I agree that SN, if it&#8217;s to continue, has to remain true to its founders&#8217; purposes. </p>
<p>Parmartha, Pari and Dharmen were instinctively drawn to and valued the &#8216;grass roots&#8217; experience and perspective, a &#8216;democratic&#8217; spirit, and, a couple of months or so before he died, I recall Parmartha agreeing with my description of SN as &#8220;an alternative view of Sannyas.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87531</link>
		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2018 07:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jitendra, 
I was also kind of asked if I would like to run the SN website, God forbid. It just seemed like another distraction among many and I said no can do. That said, I would like to see the site continue because it is the only one presenting alternative takes on the sannyas movement as a whole. 

Any other sites I know of appear to be run by Catholic sannyasins, meaning they maintain a non-questioning, toe-the-party-line stance that comes across as stagnant. I find them similar to Christian fundamentalists, they believe without questioning what it is they believe in. There are a few commenters on SN who are a bit like that also, which adds a little salt and pepper to the debates we hold here, which is perfectly all right. What would life be without contrasts?

One night I will sit down and write an article that will probably succeed in stirring the pot a little.

Parmartha will be missed, because he did a great job of moderating in a moderate way and was open to people expressing conflicting views. Now it&#039;s up to us lot to keep the flag of freedom of speech flying.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jitendra,<br />
I was also kind of asked if I would like to run the SN website, God forbid. It just seemed like another distraction among many and I said no can do. That said, I would like to see the site continue because it is the only one presenting alternative takes on the sannyas movement as a whole. </p>
<p>Any other sites I know of appear to be run by Catholic sannyasins, meaning they maintain a non-questioning, toe-the-party-line stance that comes across as stagnant. I find them similar to Christian fundamentalists, they believe without questioning what it is they believe in. There are a few commenters on SN who are a bit like that also, which adds a little salt and pepper to the debates we hold here, which is perfectly all right. What would life be without contrasts?</p>
<p>One night I will sit down and write an article that will probably succeed in stirring the pot a little.</p>
<p>Parmartha will be missed, because he did a great job of moderating in a moderate way and was open to people expressing conflicting views. Now it&#8217;s up to us lot to keep the flag of freedom of speech flying.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7817#comment-87530</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2018 04:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jitendra, about the bills: can you share  with us the amount needed &amp; an account can be made in the name of SN (unless there already exists one) so the ones like me who are interested to contribute can do the needful? 

Hope you manage to tidy up mess so the Sannyas community can again have a discussion board. 

Wish you all the luck &amp; energy for this task.


MOD:
Thanks, Kavita, we will sort out the administration and finance in a couple of weeks when Jitendra is back in the UK from a holiday and (cross fingers) we’ve got the software updated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jitendra, about the bills: can you share  with us the amount needed &#038; an account can be made in the name of SN (unless there already exists one) so the ones like me who are interested to contribute can do the needful? </p>
<p>Hope you manage to tidy up mess so the Sannyas community can again have a discussion board. </p>
<p>Wish you all the luck &#038; energy for this task.</p>
<p>MOD:<br />
Thanks, Kavita, we will sort out the administration and finance in a couple of weeks when Jitendra is back in the UK from a holiday and (cross fingers) we’ve got the software updated.</p>
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