Comments on: Killing the Buddha, a Meaning

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 18:24:24 +0000

I’ve no idea what you mean, Veet. Seems as if you’re bothered about something that is no big deal for me.

By: sw. veet (francesco)

sw. veet (francesco) — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 17:32:22 +0000

Wow, 45 years!
And you have not lost hope yet, if you go on to stay among the Osho addicts, “once arrogant, always arrogant”.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Sun, 08 Apr 2018 12:17:08 +0000

No need to over-complicate things, Veet, I’ve been in and around ‘sannyas circles’ (going around in circles, some might say) for around 45 years so I do speak from some experience.

And “persecuted by an Asian woman”? – that’s your imagination working overtime!

By: sw. veet (francesco)

sw. veet (francesco) — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 21:16:11 +0000

Satyadeva, when you spoke in an apodictic* tone of an arrogant club it sounds that you expressed more a judgment than a theory supported by experiences, because experiences still have to be organized through theories.

In case you may have met a Japanese woman, even at the Ranch, perhaps the same woman you met in Tuscany would still be a gratuitous opinion to conclude that you are persecuted by an Asian woman…eventually, in these cases the family constellation does miracles.

*apodictic – beyond dispute

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 20:09:38 +0000

I don’t have much of an opinion about all that, Veet, primarily because it’s outside my experience. Like anything else, if it works for some people then fine. If it doesn’t work for others, fine too. Experience is what counts, not theories.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 11:56:32 +0000

No, I don’t accept this at all, Satchit. Just being around a master is no guarantee of common sense, let alone “meditation”.

How do you explain the Ranch regime (to give a glaringly obvious example)?

By: satchit

satchit — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 04:50:01 +0000

When the centre is meditation (Osho), then the periphery
happens because of the centre.

By: sw. veet (francesco)

sw. veet (francesco) — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 21:34:41 +0000

I joke, Satyadeva, you too would be on my list, with all my heart.

I wonder if your condemnation of the alternative social model proposed in the communes of Osho is due to aspects like needing ‘vital space’, invasions or promiscuity; if then you have the same criticism about co-housing, which challenges, on a reduced scale, the traditional family convention too.

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 17:13:10 +0000

Mmmm, what a fascinating question, Veet…one that might take many hours to provide an adequate answer – but sorry, I have better things to do.

Now you have the requisite tools for an analysis, why not see for yourself, in real life rather than mere theory (if you’re really that interested)?

By: sw. veet (francesco)

sw. veet (francesco) — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:40:24 +0000

I would gladly do it, Arpana, as soon as I have my own place worthy for a guest like you. If Parmartha also comes we will already be 3, at that point I could not even invite Lokesh, Shantam and Frank (& friends).

But at that point how not to ask the girls to join the manly group? Then Kavita, Madhu and Tan (& friends).

But…before, in order not to appear boringly nostalgic, we have to ask Satyadeva what is the minimum number of sannyasins that constitutes a club, with related mechanisms of identification and arrogance.