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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The full story will never be told, because nobody knows the full story.&quot;

Sure, somebody does, Lokesh. By full story, I don&#039;t mean the total story of Osho&#039;s movement, or even the Ranch in particular. I mean the Share-a-Home Program. The designers of that cockamamie scheme (and I guarantee you, it wasn&#039;t Sheela) were probably a handful of people at most. They could easily tell the world the whole story of how, when, and why it was thunk up, if they chose to do so. But they don&#039;t. They&#039;re still maintaining the play is still being played out. Simple as that.

You query:
&quot;I ask you, what are you putting out there? When is your documentary about Osho coming out? We all know the answer to that.&quot;

Well, speaking for myself, Lok...I spent 5 years creating a free website that featured Osho as the main character. It was a documentary really. Gave the man an open mike--had every one of his talks available to hear. I was not bankrolled by anyone, I spent my own time and money to do it. Went to China 4 times to get the Zen connection, which the Man seemed to be zoned into. Had photos of him, video clips, the whole 9 yards...

4,000 pages! When I used to call up the Yahoo Tech Support that helped solve my web site technical problems as they came up, they were always aghast at the size and scope of my site. They said it was the largest site they had ever seen on Yahoo!, in part due to all of Osho&#039;s mp3 audios I had organised, book by book. 

I didn&#039;t use any sensational controversies, sexcult innuendos, murder/poisoning thriller titillations, or anything else of that sort.

Pure Osho, in his own words and visuals.
OFI had Yahoo! shut it down for copyright infringement, as was maybe their right, who knows?

Never made a penny off of it, no interview requests from anyone anywhere. It launched my career From Nowhere to Nowhere. But I enjoyed every second of it, that was the reward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The full story will never be told, because nobody knows the full story.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, somebody does, Lokesh. By full story, I don&#8217;t mean the total story of Osho&#8217;s movement, or even the Ranch in particular. I mean the Share-a-Home Program. The designers of that cockamamie scheme (and I guarantee you, it wasn&#8217;t Sheela) were probably a handful of people at most. They could easily tell the world the whole story of how, when, and why it was thunk up, if they chose to do so. But they don&#8217;t. They&#8217;re still maintaining the play is still being played out. Simple as that.</p>
<p>You query:<br />
&#8220;I ask you, what are you putting out there? When is your documentary about Osho coming out? We all know the answer to that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, speaking for myself, Lok&#8230;I spent 5 years creating a free website that featured Osho as the main character. It was a documentary really. Gave the man an open mike&#8211;had every one of his talks available to hear. I was not bankrolled by anyone, I spent my own time and money to do it. Went to China 4 times to get the Zen connection, which the Man seemed to be zoned into. Had photos of him, video clips, the whole 9 yards&#8230;</p>
<p>4,000 pages! When I used to call up the Yahoo Tech Support that helped solve my web site technical problems as they came up, they were always aghast at the size and scope of my site. They said it was the largest site they had ever seen on Yahoo!, in part due to all of Osho&#8217;s mp3 audios I had organised, book by book. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t use any sensational controversies, sexcult innuendos, murder/poisoning thriller titillations, or anything else of that sort.</p>
<p>Pure Osho, in his own words and visuals.<br />
OFI had Yahoo! shut it down for copyright infringement, as was maybe their right, who knows?</p>
<p>Never made a penny off of it, no interview requests from anyone anywhere. It launched my career From Nowhere to Nowhere. But I enjoyed every second of it, that was the reward.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Wild Wild Country&#039; is so wildly popular that journos are now out raking through any related  dirt to get more easy copy. 

Apparently, John Bowerman, the son of the Nike founder whose interviews were lengthily featured in &#039;Wild Wild Country&#039; (the guy who said he &quot;misses the fight&quot;), married a woman 40 years younger than him, a teacher, who in 2014  got done for sexual abuse of one of her students.

Should have joined a sexcult to save themselves the hassle, maybe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Wild Wild Country&#8217; is so wildly popular that journos are now out raking through any related  dirt to get more easy copy. </p>
<p>Apparently, John Bowerman, the son of the Nike founder whose interviews were lengthily featured in &#8216;Wild Wild Country&#8217; (the guy who said he &#8220;misses the fight&#8221;), married a woman 40 years younger than him, a teacher, who in 2014  got done for sexual abuse of one of her students.</p>
<p>Should have joined a sexcult to save themselves the hassle, maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
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		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 20:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s okay to play the surrealist role but you&#039;re also irreverent as a Dadaist, although it is difficult to establish the canons that distinguishes the two forms of expression.

It is enough for me to know that you too have a heart, since the Dadaists (unlike the Futurists) were against the intervention in the First World War of Italy and that Surrealism puts Love at the center of life.

I do not want to give you false hope but sometimes it&#039;s nice to be touched by the love of someone who realizes that we exist.

If your wife is sour, leave her and return on the market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exquisite_corpse]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s okay to play the surrealist role but you&#8217;re also irreverent as a Dadaist, although it is difficult to establish the canons that distinguishes the two forms of expression.</p>
<p>It is enough for me to know that you too have a heart, since the Dadaists (unlike the Futurists) were against the intervention in the First World War of Italy and that Surrealism puts Love at the center of life.</p>
<p>I do not want to give you false hope but sometimes it&#8217;s nice to be touched by the love of someone who realizes that we exist.</p>
<p>If your wife is sour, leave her and return on the market.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exquisite_corpse" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exquisite_corpse</a></p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good question, SD.
When a kiosk sells five, ten daily papers more, it is called brisk sale!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, SD.<br />
When a kiosk sells five, ten daily papers more, it is called brisk sale!</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read today that the Way brothers did an episode that didn`t make the final cut which was called &quot;A day in the life&quot; in which they showed what a day in the life for the grunts was like on the ranch.
It may get put in as an extra feature when the directors cut/DVD comes out
(crafty buggers).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read today that the Way brothers did an episode that didn`t make the final cut which was called &#8220;A day in the life&#8221; in which they showed what a day in the life for the grunts was like on the ranch.<br />
It may get put in as an extra feature when the directors cut/DVD comes out<br />
(crafty buggers).</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
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		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SD, firstly, I am not into hero worship of John Lennon, I just appreciate some of his music, mainly the stuff he made with The Beatles. I think &#039;Plastic Ono Band&#039; and &#039;Imagine&#039; are good albums, but I&#039;ve never owned any of his other work. &#039;Mind Games; I used to have on cassette. I thought &#039;Double Fantasy; was a bit crappy.

I have no access to a laptop or pc for a couple days, just got my smartphone, so briefly, on this quote you have pulled out on Lennon: 

As you well know, Osho contradicted himself thousands of times, sometimes deliberately.

I can remember another quote, where Osho talks about musicians and declares that they come closest to meditation.
As far as your quote is concerned, I get the point that he is trying to make, but I can see that this is an example of something where he is not talking out of his own experience.

I doubt he would have listened to much of Lennon&#039;s stuff, or been in tune with where it was coming from. Osho loved to listen to Indian classical music and some film music. I know where he&#039;s coming from, I love that music too, when I&#039;m in the right mood.

Osho says:
&quot;John Lennon on the one hand sings: &quot;Love is the answer, and you know that’s for sure.&quot;

He himself does not know it. He says:
&quot;Love is the flower, you got to let it grow.&quot;

But to know it you have to be absolutely awakened, because love is the ultimate peak of consciousness.&quot;

Now  this is simply not the case. Osho states that &quot;He himself does not know it...to know it you have to be absolutely awakened, because love is the ultimate peak of consciousness....&quot;

Many meditators experience unconditional love. You do not have to be fully awakened to know it, so this is not true.

Also, Osho states somewhere that his way goes beyond the heart.

Ok, so John Lennon may not have been into meditation much, but as Osho states elsewhere, musicians can move into states of meditation through their music.

&quot;So he sings: Love is the answer…Love is the flower…Yes is the answer…Yes is surrender…and you know that’s for sure&quot; – but he himself is absolutely unaware of it; he has not experienced it. A beautiful man, but still lost in dreams and imagination.&quot;

How does Osho know that he has not experienced it?

Also, Osho would not have been aware that the Beatles and other psychedelic groups were singing about their experiences of love and oneness that they were getting revealed to them by consciousness-expanding drugs.

Osho comes out with:
&quot;Buddha may not say things so beautifully because he is not a poet in the ordinary sense, but whatsoever he says is the truth.&quot;

This is total bullshit, and this is where the subtle ego of the master shines through. Everything Osho or Buddha says is not true.

Osho knew very well that the ultimate truth cannot be spoken.

&quot;Now, Lennon was continuously fighting with his own woman – many times they separated and many times they got together again – and he is talking about mind-games, and he was playing those mind-games himself!&quot;

And Vivek also left Osho many times and then came back to him - and what about the tape where they threw the plate at each other - look who&#039;s talking!

&quot;Sarjano, the words are beautiful: Love is the answer. I also say love is the answer, but I mean it! He does not mean it, he is simply saying beautiful....&quot;

No, Osho, he does mean it. 
And he spread the message around.
Stop slagging him off.

 Osho uses the question to make a point but it is a bit stupid.

Let Osho be Osho and Lennon be Lennon.

And if you keep trying to dissect music or poetry like this it just destroys it. Just enjoy it!

“Listening to great music you suddenly become silent — with no effort. Falling in tune with the music you lose your ego with no effort. You become relaxed, you fall into a deep rest. You are alert, awake, and yet in a subtle way drunk.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SD, firstly, I am not into hero worship of John Lennon, I just appreciate some of his music, mainly the stuff he made with The Beatles. I think &#8216;Plastic Ono Band&#8217; and &#8216;Imagine&#8217; are good albums, but I&#8217;ve never owned any of his other work. &#8216;Mind Games; I used to have on cassette. I thought &#8216;Double Fantasy; was a bit crappy.</p>
<p>I have no access to a laptop or pc for a couple days, just got my smartphone, so briefly, on this quote you have pulled out on Lennon: </p>
<p>As you well know, Osho contradicted himself thousands of times, sometimes deliberately.</p>
<p>I can remember another quote, where Osho talks about musicians and declares that they come closest to meditation.<br />
As far as your quote is concerned, I get the point that he is trying to make, but I can see that this is an example of something where he is not talking out of his own experience.</p>
<p>I doubt he would have listened to much of Lennon&#8217;s stuff, or been in tune with where it was coming from. Osho loved to listen to Indian classical music and some film music. I know where he&#8217;s coming from, I love that music too, when I&#8217;m in the right mood.</p>
<p>Osho says:<br />
&#8220;John Lennon on the one hand sings: &#8220;Love is the answer, and you know that’s for sure.&#8221;</p>
<p>He himself does not know it. He says:<br />
&#8220;Love is the flower, you got to let it grow.&#8221;</p>
<p>But to know it you have to be absolutely awakened, because love is the ultimate peak of consciousness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now  this is simply not the case. Osho states that &#8220;He himself does not know it&#8230;to know it you have to be absolutely awakened, because love is the ultimate peak of consciousness&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many meditators experience unconditional love. You do not have to be fully awakened to know it, so this is not true.</p>
<p>Also, Osho states somewhere that his way goes beyond the heart.</p>
<p>Ok, so John Lennon may not have been into meditation much, but as Osho states elsewhere, musicians can move into states of meditation through their music.</p>
<p>&#8220;So he sings: Love is the answer…Love is the flower…Yes is the answer…Yes is surrender…and you know that’s for sure&#8221; – but he himself is absolutely unaware of it; he has not experienced it. A beautiful man, but still lost in dreams and imagination.&#8221;</p>
<p>How does Osho know that he has not experienced it?</p>
<p>Also, Osho would not have been aware that the Beatles and other psychedelic groups were singing about their experiences of love and oneness that they were getting revealed to them by consciousness-expanding drugs.</p>
<p>Osho comes out with:<br />
&#8220;Buddha may not say things so beautifully because he is not a poet in the ordinary sense, but whatsoever he says is the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is total bullshit, and this is where the subtle ego of the master shines through. Everything Osho or Buddha says is not true.</p>
<p>Osho knew very well that the ultimate truth cannot be spoken.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now, Lennon was continuously fighting with his own woman – many times they separated and many times they got together again – and he is talking about mind-games, and he was playing those mind-games himself!&#8221;</p>
<p>And Vivek also left Osho many times and then came back to him &#8211; and what about the tape where they threw the plate at each other &#8211; look who&#8217;s talking!</p>
<p>&#8220;Sarjano, the words are beautiful: Love is the answer. I also say love is the answer, but I mean it! He does not mean it, he is simply saying beautiful&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Osho, he does mean it.<br />
And he spread the message around.<br />
Stop slagging him off.</p>
<p> Osho uses the question to make a point but it is a bit stupid.</p>
<p>Let Osho be Osho and Lennon be Lennon.</p>
<p>And if you keep trying to dissect music or poetry like this it just destroys it. Just enjoy it!</p>
<p>“Listening to great music you suddenly become silent — with no effort. Falling in tune with the music you lose your ego with no effort. You become relaxed, you fall into a deep rest. You are alert, awake, and yet in a subtle way drunk.”</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, folks, its high noon in SN City. A time when all good Osho-fearing citizens should be safe indoors watching Wild Wild Country, avoiding the harsh realities of the wild wild West, taking place on the dusty main street of SN. Villains are on the prowl. 

But don&#039;t worry, self-appointed Marshal Arpana is here to protect you and dispense rough justice. He&#039;ll call the bandits out and put paid to them with his six-shooter. His love gun is loaded not with bullets but...wait for it...Osho quotes. That&#039;s right! If a relevant quote is needed he&#039;s the man to fire it off. A regular old Dead Eye Dick, he never misses the mark...sinners repent. 

I&#039;m speaking from experience here. I once fell foul of the Marshal after creating a ruckus in SN City&#039;s Last Dance Saloon. Marshal Arpana called me out and...wait for it again...put me in my place. 

I&#039;m a changed man. I try my best every day to stay within the rigid confines of Marshal Arpana&#039;s law. God forbid that I should ever be called out again and put in my place. One shot from his love gun is enough to tame a desperado like me. 

Jai Bhagwan...I surrender!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, folks, its high noon in SN City. A time when all good Osho-fearing citizens should be safe indoors watching Wild Wild Country, avoiding the harsh realities of the wild wild West, taking place on the dusty main street of SN. Villains are on the prowl. </p>
<p>But don&#8217;t worry, self-appointed Marshal Arpana is here to protect you and dispense rough justice. He&#8217;ll call the bandits out and put paid to them with his six-shooter. His love gun is loaded not with bullets but&#8230;wait for it&#8230;Osho quotes. That&#8217;s right! If a relevant quote is needed he&#8217;s the man to fire it off. A regular old Dead Eye Dick, he never misses the mark&#8230;sinners repent. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m speaking from experience here. I once fell foul of the Marshal after creating a ruckus in SN City&#8217;s Last Dance Saloon. Marshal Arpana called me out and&#8230;wait for it again&#8230;put me in my place. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a changed man. I try my best every day to stay within the rigid confines of Marshal Arpana&#8217;s law. God forbid that I should ever be called out again and put in my place. One shot from his love gun is enough to tame a desperado like me. </p>
<p>Jai Bhagwan&#8230;I surrender!</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 18:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@sw. veet (francesco) 
30 March, 2018 at 5:18 pm

Here&#039;s another version. Always seemed to me Osho was telling us about the point of the mala and red, the name change. 

&quot;I have heard a story about Count Keyserling -- his grandson is here, a sannyasin. Count Keyserling was one of the most famous German thinkers. He traveled far and wide in the East; he was fascinated by the East. The grandson must have something of Count Keyserling in him, hence he has come to me.

When Count Keyserling was in China, a friend presented him with a beautiful box, two thousand years old, but with a condition which has been fulfilled for two thousand years: that the box&#039;s face has to be towards the East. A beautiful piece of art work, a great work of art! With that condition, for two thousand years whosoever had it has followed it.

Count Keyserling went with it. He placed the box in his drawing room facing towards the East, but then the whole drawing room was unbalanced. The box looked odd, so the whole drawing room had to be redone. But then the whole drawing room was no longer fitting with the house! But Count Keyserling was a man of his word -- he changed his whole house... but then the garden was not fitting, so he had to change the garden. And then he became afraid, because when he changed the garden the house was not fitting in the neighborhood. Now, he could not do anything with the neighborhood!

Then he wrote a letter to the friend who has given the box, &quot;Please take this box back -- I don&#039;t know how I can fulfill the condition. I will have to change the whole world! Now the neighborhood, then the town, then the district, then the province, then the country.... This is too much!&quot;

If you start seeing just a ray of light, a new light, you will have to change your whole world.

The friend wrote to Count Keyserling, &quot;Don&#039;t be worried, that&#039;s exactly the message: that even a small box can change your whole world. It is an ancient Taoist symbol; a message is contained in it. You have understood the message.&quot; &quot;

Osho
The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha, Vol 7
Chapter 2
Chapter title: The greatest rebellion ever tried]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sw. veet (francesco)<br />
30 March, 2018 at 5:18 pm</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another version. Always seemed to me Osho was telling us about the point of the mala and red, the name change. </p>
<p>&#8220;I have heard a story about Count Keyserling &#8212; his grandson is here, a sannyasin. Count Keyserling was one of the most famous German thinkers. He traveled far and wide in the East; he was fascinated by the East. The grandson must have something of Count Keyserling in him, hence he has come to me.</p>
<p>When Count Keyserling was in China, a friend presented him with a beautiful box, two thousand years old, but with a condition which has been fulfilled for two thousand years: that the box&#8217;s face has to be towards the East. A beautiful piece of art work, a great work of art! With that condition, for two thousand years whosoever had it has followed it.</p>
<p>Count Keyserling went with it. He placed the box in his drawing room facing towards the East, but then the whole drawing room was unbalanced. The box looked odd, so the whole drawing room had to be redone. But then the whole drawing room was no longer fitting with the house! But Count Keyserling was a man of his word &#8212; he changed his whole house&#8230; but then the garden was not fitting, so he had to change the garden. And then he became afraid, because when he changed the garden the house was not fitting in the neighborhood. Now, he could not do anything with the neighborhood!</p>
<p>Then he wrote a letter to the friend who has given the box, &#8220;Please take this box back &#8212; I don&#8217;t know how I can fulfill the condition. I will have to change the whole world! Now the neighborhood, then the town, then the district, then the province, then the country&#8230;. This is too much!&#8221;</p>
<p>If you start seeing just a ray of light, a new light, you will have to change your whole world.</p>
<p>The friend wrote to Count Keyserling, &#8220;Don&#8217;t be worried, that&#8217;s exactly the message: that even a small box can change your whole world. It is an ancient Taoist symbol; a message is contained in it. You have understood the message.&#8221; &#8221;</p>
<p>Osho<br />
The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha, Vol 7<br />
Chapter 2<br />
Chapter title: The greatest rebellion ever tried</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 18:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veet, I am not familiar with that Osho story. Sounds like a good one, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veet, I am not familiar with that Osho story. Sounds like a good one, though.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2018 17:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many congratulations, Frank - but I knew you&#039;d see the Light one day, you just needed a mentor to put you on the right path after all these years...

Lucky old you, by the way, to have a tantric master as a shadow - I&#039;m lumbered with bloody Shantam (according to you anyway)...

Never mind - Karma, I suppose....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many congratulations, Frank &#8211; but I knew you&#8217;d see the Light one day, you just needed a mentor to put you on the right path after all these years&#8230;</p>
<p>Lucky old you, by the way, to have a tantric master as a shadow &#8211; I&#8217;m lumbered with bloody Shantam (according to you anyway)&#8230;</p>
<p>Never mind &#8211; Karma, I suppose&#8230;.</p>
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