Just imagine, Osho is alive and young man gets influenced and gets the longing to see the master and then stays in the community. Such person would have gone to America, Germany, Sweden and working six days a week in Mcdonald’s.

Also, when masters are available, even more available after death, it is idiotic and stupid to get hooked with the alive ones. Best option is to wait for them to go and then copy/paste something like, “My people will find me in air, in water, everywhere.”

Seriously speaking, if I see some young chap getting influenced by Osho literature I will surely advise to get university degree in Psychology, Philosophy, Theology and earn livelihood from it and also get higher kick!

MOD:
and also get higher kick! – PLEASE CLARIFY, Shantam.

I simply asked you a question, referring to your very first post on the matter of THIS topic here now, and re that, which I read (several times, to feel it):
“But that drama has nothing to do with the drama of an Italian boy, same age as Shobhit, in presenting to the family his black boyfriend, from a Muslim country, forced to hide from the family that they can not marry because he too is unemployed.”

I´m getting very dizzy when reading your response at 2.22 pm, getting an awkward feeling about your very long political discourse.

Seems I really got it wrong, your very first send-off to the topic. And I don´t know what you are up to.

Sorry for that.

However, when you say: “What annoys me is the frame used by spin doctors, who work behind the scenes of mainstream communication, salaried by the few ones who shit on our heads, and use very sophisticated techniques, playing with words and frames.”
I definitely would second that!

But being on a Sannyas-related website-chat, there may be taken into consideration (always) that the topic ´spin-doctoring ´is worth a juicy-painful shadow work meditation -idealistically seen – for senders of posts and receivers here, for moderators and editors and for an administration expert etc. etc….all the way round…and round, including just mere ´onlookers´.

MOD: POST EDITED.

But words are still words. Some words can help people & some can hurt people, and some people read things beyond words.

Words can be very powerful for young people as they formulate the mind. Osho used words to create spiritual thirst in people.

“Trust is of the heart, belief is of the mind. They are diametrically opposite, they never meet. They can run parallel to each other, but they will never meet. Belief will remain hollow, without any content, and trust is overflowing with joy, blissfulness.

You say you trust me. That’s enough, more than enough. I don’t want you to believe in my statements, because my statements go on changing every day. If you believe in my statements you are going to be crazy. They are so contradictory, you will not be able to figure out what I actually want to say to you.

But trust remains the same – the same flavour, the same grace, the same beauty, because it is not a statement of the mind. It is not a statement at all. It is a silent communion between two hearts, a silent communion in which two hearts synchronize; their beats become a rhythm, their vibe takes the same colour and aroma.

I am not a man who wants you to believe in anything, including me. I am against belief as such.

That’s why I have been continuously contradicting myself, so nobody can make any belief out of my statements. No scholar, no theologian is going to make any system out of my statements. In thirty years I must have contradicted myself thirty thousand times. Anybody working on me for a PhD will soon be found in a madhouse. And my reason for doing so is crystal clear. If I were making statements consistent with each other, you would not listen to me, you would make a belief system out of it. I am a little outlandish.

In the forty-two years Buddha spoke, you cannot find a single inconsistency, no contradiction. Now it is so easy to make the whole living religion into a dead belief, a dogma. The religion becomes a cult.

Religion is religion only when the master is there continuously watching that you don’t get into the head, that you remain centered in the heart. But when the master is gone, all that you have left with you is his statements. If they are consistent, then it is very easy for you to make a theology, a Christianity, a Buddhism, a Hinduism, Mohammedanism, and then cling to it. You have forgotten the master; now you have only words, which mean nothing. It was the man behind the words who had meant something to you. Can’t you see the difference?”

Death to Deathlessness chap.3

The question is, can Siamese twins become enlightened?
I see no reason why not.

“When they want to sell you something they can not declare it before, nurturing our resistance, so they have to disguise it, for example by creating within us the conditions, not only emotional (dramatise, sweeten, outrage, etc.), described by a new frame that is imposed with a criterion of emergency, exceptionally, so that we decide to derogate from the initial point of view, and its frame.”