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	<title>Comments on: Dimensions Beyond The Known: Osho</title>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2018 19:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, SS.
Much appreciate your information. Now, I know more or less where all this comes from.
Cheers! XXX]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, SS.<br />
Much appreciate your information. Now, I know more or less where all this comes from.<br />
Cheers! XXX</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
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		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2018 15:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ma Satya Bharti, after she left the Ranch and dropped sannyas, recalls a telephone conversation she had with Deeksha, the Italian Ma who also left the Ranch and grew disillusioned with Sannyas, who told her that she had once witnessed Osho beating Vivek.

Now, we don&#039;t know if the story is true, or what would have provoked Osho to do this, but if true, again it sounds like another tiff between a couple.

I remember Osho saying once times that in an Indian village, if a husband stops beating his wife everyone knows that he has stopped loving her.

It is acceptable in India for a man to beat his wife, and I believe it even states somewhere in the Rig Veda or one of the other Vedas, that is ok for a husband to beat his wife.

So we don&#039;t know if the account is true, or if so, what context it happened in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ma Satya Bharti, after she left the Ranch and dropped sannyas, recalls a telephone conversation she had with Deeksha, the Italian Ma who also left the Ranch and grew disillusioned with Sannyas, who told her that she had once witnessed Osho beating Vivek.</p>
<p>Now, we don&#8217;t know if the story is true, or what would have provoked Osho to do this, but if true, again it sounds like another tiff between a couple.</p>
<p>I remember Osho saying once times that in an Indian village, if a husband stops beating his wife everyone knows that he has stopped loving her.</p>
<p>It is acceptable in India for a man to beat his wife, and I believe it even states somewhere in the Rig Veda or one of the other Vedas, that is ok for a husband to beat his wife.</p>
<p>So we don&#8217;t know if the account is true, or if so, what context it happened in.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2018 12:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turning points come when they come. 
Lokesh´s reminder last evening is quite a turning point for me. 

Not only I am going to drop expressing mundane spiritual thoughts through sexual imagination, also will be very, very careful not to attack with sarcasm. It means my answers will be very different than the usual impulsive reactions to Swami Anand Anubodh&#039;s and Satyadeva´s direct style.

God Bless You, fellow friends, and me too. 

PS: 
No, I won´t write &quot;Osho´s blessings&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turning points come when they come.<br />
Lokesh´s reminder last evening is quite a turning point for me. </p>
<p>Not only I am going to drop expressing mundane spiritual thoughts through sexual imagination, also will be very, very careful not to attack with sarcasm. It means my answers will be very different than the usual impulsive reactions to Swami Anand Anubodh&#8217;s and Satyadeva´s direct style.</p>
<p>God Bless You, fellow friends, and me too. </p>
<p>PS:<br />
No, I won´t write &#8220;Osho´s blessings&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7585#comment-85569</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2018 06:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SS,
To be ordinary is different than to be common. (Maybe somebody with English as mother tongue can help?).

Again, you&#039;ve just heard things to be said - where all those gossips come from? Sheela’s tapes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SS,<br />
To be ordinary is different than to be common. (Maybe somebody with English as mother tongue can help?).</p>
<p>Again, you&#8217;ve just heard things to be said &#8211; where all those gossips come from? Sheela’s tapes?</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 22:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Lokesh, for the reminder, I will keep in mind to refine and make me mature for the sake of my own satisfaction and contentment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lokesh, for the reminder, I will keep in mind to refine and make me mature for the sake of my own satisfaction and contentment.</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7585#comment-85557</link>
		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 18:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reports about Ozen are not at all accurate in my view, but either way, people have a right to defend themselves against such allegations.
There is a website that does this called:
https://ozentherealstory.com/about-ozen-rajneesh/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reports about Ozen are not at all accurate in my view, but either way, people have a right to defend themselves against such allegations.<br />
There is a website that does this called:<br />
<a href="https://ozentherealstory.com/about-ozen-rajneesh/" rel="nofollow">https://ozentherealstory.com/about-ozen-rajneesh/</a></p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
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		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 18:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see Vivek as being portrayed here as you suggest.

Not that there is anything wrong with a &quot;common&quot; woman, or asking for sex, but I think the recording mentioned Vivek  actually  states, &quot;You never make love with me anymore.&quot;

We don&#039;t know if the story is true, but to me it just sounds like the little domestic argument of an ordinary couple who had been living together for over ten years.

And Vikek did say that Osho was just an ordinary man. She did bow down to him in Buddha Hall and was devoted to him but also saw his human side.

Osho also said he was just an ordinary man, but it is true that he did tell Vivek to just go and have relationships with other men. Which she accepted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see Vivek as being portrayed here as you suggest.</p>
<p>Not that there is anything wrong with a &#8220;common&#8221; woman, or asking for sex, but I think the recording mentioned Vivek  actually  states, &#8220;You never make love with me anymore.&#8221;</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know if the story is true, but to me it just sounds like the little domestic argument of an ordinary couple who had been living together for over ten years.</p>
<p>And Vikek did say that Osho was just an ordinary man. She did bow down to him in Buddha Hall and was devoted to him but also saw his human side.</p>
<p>Osho also said he was just an ordinary man, but it is true that he did tell Vivek to just go and have relationships with other men. Which she accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 16:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veet enquires, &quot;Could you say that the love felt before was of a different nature from that one after the meeting with Him?&quot;

No, I could not. I have always had a love element in my life. You can call it human or divine, but in the end it&#039;s only love.

I leave it to the poets to describe what love is. In an illusory world, love is perhaps the only thing that is real, it&#039;s always there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veet enquires, &#8220;Could you say that the love felt before was of a different nature from that one after the meeting with Him?&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I could not. I have always had a love element in my life. You can call it human or divine, but in the end it&#8217;s only love.</p>
<p>I leave it to the poets to describe what love is. In an illusory world, love is perhaps the only thing that is real, it&#8217;s always there.</p>
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		<title>By: Lokesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lokesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam says, &quot;When swamis were giving head to Mas with their mala&quot;, etc. This is the sort of thing I am talking about. Shantam, you talk about sex a lot and never in a sophisticated manner, more adolescent. Does not exactly put you in a very favourable light as far as women readers are concerned. Your rap would not even go down well at a poker table. Very trite, baba. 

Perhaps you might like to look at that and lend a little respect to SN&#039;s female readers and posters, otherwise you look like a chump. Okay once in a while, but as a constant it&#039;s a turn-off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam says, &#8220;When swamis were giving head to Mas with their mala&#8221;, etc. This is the sort of thing I am talking about. Shantam, you talk about sex a lot and never in a sophisticated manner, more adolescent. Does not exactly put you in a very favourable light as far as women readers are concerned. Your rap would not even go down well at a poker table. Very trite, baba. </p>
<p>Perhaps you might like to look at that and lend a little respect to SN&#8217;s female readers and posters, otherwise you look like a chump. Okay once in a while, but as a constant it&#8217;s a turn-off.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2018 13:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam, you say, &quot;After my only phone-call with UG I have not read any paragraph written by him.&quot; 
But I remember discussing reading Mahesh Bhatt&#039;s book, I somehow take that as our  consumerism. 

&quot;In essence, spiritual literature is like porn stories. They affect and make brain relax. Real love is joy and challenge as living family and alive communities.&quot; 
Somehow in reality  I feel real love can&#039;t only be joy, it has more or less equal ratio of  pain too.

There is mostly not a day when Shashwat days &amp; commune days don&#039;t come to my mind, but surely the frequency has reduced. Guess we are where &amp; how  we ought to be! Frankly, I am now kinda enjoying our separation days as much!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam, you say, &#8220;After my only phone-call with UG I have not read any paragraph written by him.&#8221;<br />
But I remember discussing reading Mahesh Bhatt&#8217;s book, I somehow take that as our  consumerism. </p>
<p>&#8220;In essence, spiritual literature is like porn stories. They affect and make brain relax. Real love is joy and challenge as living family and alive communities.&#8221;<br />
Somehow in reality  I feel real love can&#8217;t only be joy, it has more or less equal ratio of  pain too.</p>
<p>There is mostly not a day when Shashwat days &#038; commune days don&#8217;t come to my mind, but surely the frequency has reduced. Guess we are where &#038; how  we ought to be! Frankly, I am now kinda enjoying our separation days as much!</p>
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