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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85126</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2018 13:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039; re all social animals, Parmartha, and even if we live alone
after having lived through one or the other settings of communal living or building a small family by marriage or whatsoever, we stay social animals, even then, when we are apparently totally isolated (for whatsoever other reason).

&#039;Guardian&#039; journalists have been checking out the one or other models of dealing with togetherness and I guess that came by the article you posted in SN/UK.

I found another one about the new Ministry which came into UK politics this very year. Her Majesty The Queen is said to have commented: &quot; Well, now they have a ministry....&quot; (for loneliness issues and their heavy impact on and in society). 

I´d like to add  a quote from another &#039;Guardian&#039; article  on the topic of discussion here, as I admit I´ve been a bit jealous that you British citizens presumably (?) can try finding other ways (?) to deal with some fatal after-effects of the immense progress re technical and scientific  developments:
That short review of the Sannyas UK Centre by journalists is a nice side-effect of growing social and political awareness in UK and may be helping or supporting those who maintain an &#039;Invitation&#039;. 

The Guardian, Jan 23, 2018:

&quot;Neither is it (´loneliness´) an end-of-life condition. Rather it is an indiscriminate disease that has become an epidemic. There are some obvious pathogens: the deconstruction of community, the conversion of citizen into consumer, the politics of envy. We are no longer “bowling together” and family life has been unravelling for some time now. 

Since the 1980s we’ve been gaining comfort from consumer materialism and convenience in exchange for our identity. The public square has become privatised and we have lived individual, unconnected lives behind locked doors in gated estates, as we gorge on delivered groceries, box sets and now Just Eat takeaways. We have been slowly losing touch with each other and with reality. 

The latest strain is a digital virus, detectable only to the analogue eye of our pre-electronic generation. It is demolishing real sociability and replacing it with virtual reality. A techie elite has hijacked the narrative, causing a quantum shift in human interaction. This threatens the human genius of community which has been the primary driver in the species’ journey from family to gang to clan to tribe to nation to federation.

Loneliness is a cultural construct, a lifestyle issue. It is the child of a very male marriage between social illiteracy and the neoliberal paradigm. Making Tracey Crouch minister for loneliness offers a political statement of serious intent to restore the child to health. Being up against powerful vested interests, she is going to need all the friends she can muster.&quot;

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217; re all social animals, Parmartha, and even if we live alone<br />
after having lived through one or the other settings of communal living or building a small family by marriage or whatsoever, we stay social animals, even then, when we are apparently totally isolated (for whatsoever other reason).</p>
<p>&#8216;Guardian&#8217; journalists have been checking out the one or other models of dealing with togetherness and I guess that came by the article you posted in SN/UK.</p>
<p>I found another one about the new Ministry which came into UK politics this very year. Her Majesty The Queen is said to have commented: &#8221; Well, now they have a ministry&#8230;.&#8221; (for loneliness issues and their heavy impact on and in society). </p>
<p>I´d like to add  a quote from another &#8216;Guardian&#8217; article  on the topic of discussion here, as I admit I´ve been a bit jealous that you British citizens presumably (?) can try finding other ways (?) to deal with some fatal after-effects of the immense progress re technical and scientific  developments:<br />
That short review of the Sannyas UK Centre by journalists is a nice side-effect of growing social and political awareness in UK and may be helping or supporting those who maintain an &#8216;Invitation&#8217;. </p>
<p>The Guardian, Jan 23, 2018:</p>
<p>&#8220;Neither is it (´loneliness´) an end-of-life condition. Rather it is an indiscriminate disease that has become an epidemic. There are some obvious pathogens: the deconstruction of community, the conversion of citizen into consumer, the politics of envy. We are no longer “bowling together” and family life has been unravelling for some time now. </p>
<p>Since the 1980s we’ve been gaining comfort from consumer materialism and convenience in exchange for our identity. The public square has become privatised and we have lived individual, unconnected lives behind locked doors in gated estates, as we gorge on delivered groceries, box sets and now Just Eat takeaways. We have been slowly losing touch with each other and with reality. </p>
<p>The latest strain is a digital virus, detectable only to the analogue eye of our pre-electronic generation. It is demolishing real sociability and replacing it with virtual reality. A techie elite has hijacked the narrative, causing a quantum shift in human interaction. This threatens the human genius of community which has been the primary driver in the species’ journey from family to gang to clan to tribe to nation to federation.</p>
<p>Loneliness is a cultural construct, a lifestyle issue. It is the child of a very male marriage between social illiteracy and the neoliberal paradigm. Making Tracey Crouch minister for loneliness offers a political statement of serious intent to restore the child to health. Being up against powerful vested interests, she is going to need all the friends she can muster.&#8221;</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85107</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, sir or madam. Your gratitude is terrific.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, sir or madam. Your gratitude is terrific.</p>
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		<title>By: Kusum</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85105</link>
		<dc:creator>Kusum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satyadeva, thank you. You certainly have triggered the laughter in me. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satyadeva, thank you. You certainly have triggered the laughter in me. <img src='https://sannyasnews.org/now/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85086</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 13:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Veet, two simple questions:
Have you actually done at least one of the groups you advertised here (via a link) recently?
If so, how much did it cost?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Veet, two simple questions:<br />
Have you actually done at least one of the groups you advertised here (via a link) recently?<br />
If so, how much did it cost?</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85084</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 12:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this ridiculous, self-important huffing-and-puffing because you won&#039;t tell me how much it cost you to do one of the groups you advertised here, or don&#039;t want to say you haven&#039;t actually done one of them! Preferring instead to launch a thoroughly bogus attack, irrelevant to the point.

Not exactly a shining example of the value of therapy...

Btw, re &quot;you continue to remove the “Reply” option below your comments&quot; - pure imagination on your part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this ridiculous, self-important huffing-and-puffing because you won&#8217;t tell me how much it cost you to do one of the groups you advertised here, or don&#8217;t want to say you haven&#8217;t actually done one of them! Preferring instead to launch a thoroughly bogus attack, irrelevant to the point.</p>
<p>Not exactly a shining example of the value of therapy&#8230;</p>
<p>Btw, re &#8220;you continue to remove the “Reply” option below your comments&#8221; &#8211; pure imagination on your part.</p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
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		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 12:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“A lot of the people [at Osho Leela] have gone through life, got married and had kids, and are just not happy with life. Then they turn to something like this.”

And - do they find happiness there ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“A lot of the people [at Osho Leela] have gone through life, got married and had kids, and are just not happy with life. Then they turn to something like this.”</p>
<p>And &#8211; do they find happiness there ?</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85079</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 12:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have already told you about my experience of Tantra, but you are free not to believe me, after all I could not give you a tantric demonstration of what I say.

So, you would be a sannyasin who has never made any group of Osho, not knowing that the therapist does not decide the price of a group all by himself on his website but with the meditation centre (not just OMC) that host it.

Then I can only assume about the reasons you never have anything positive to share about your sannyas, apart from shitting doubts about what others say.

Do not play this game with me and save your money, with my time.
    
If you insist on your rhetorical questions in the future I will be forced to ignore your further questions, especially as you continue to remove the &quot;Reply&quot; option below your comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have already told you about my experience of Tantra, but you are free not to believe me, after all I could not give you a tantric demonstration of what I say.</p>
<p>So, you would be a sannyasin who has never made any group of Osho, not knowing that the therapist does not decide the price of a group all by himself on his website but with the meditation centre (not just OMC) that host it.</p>
<p>Then I can only assume about the reasons you never have anything positive to share about your sannyas, apart from shitting doubts about what others say.</p>
<p>Do not play this game with me and save your money, with my time.</p>
<p>If you insist on your rhetorical questions in the future I will be forced to ignore your further questions, especially as you continue to remove the &#8220;Reply&#8221; option below your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85078</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2018 10:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of rambling on with self-justifying irrelevancies, how about simply answering my query, Veet, or saying you don&#039;t know because you&#039;ve never done any of these groups that you provided a link for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of rambling on with self-justifying irrelevancies, how about simply answering my query, Veet, or saying you don&#8217;t know because you&#8217;ve never done any of these groups that you provided a link for?</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
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		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 23:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Interesting that they don’t publish the cost of their courses. Perhaps they’re free?!&quot;

By this I only assumed that you, SD, did not want me to take seriously what you wrote, that you were naively surprised or even scandalized (?!).

But I suppose this only because you write using a sannyasin name, here, among the lovers of Osho, the Master of Masters; think about this: &quot;you need 7 Sai Babas to make a Bhagwan&quot;...then assuming that you can be a sannyasin that talks to other sannyasins I prefer to think you&#039;re playing, and so I play with you.

Seriously, if you are really interested in the free Tantra group I have a sannyasin friend who in Germany organises something similar in a swinging club called &#039;Fuck the Resort&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interesting that they don’t publish the cost of their courses. Perhaps they’re free?!&#8221;</p>
<p>By this I only assumed that you, SD, did not want me to take seriously what you wrote, that you were naively surprised or even scandalized (?!).</p>
<p>But I suppose this only because you write using a sannyasin name, here, among the lovers of Osho, the Master of Masters; think about this: &#8220;you need 7 Sai Babas to make a Bhagwan&#8221;&#8230;then assuming that you can be a sannyasin that talks to other sannyasins I prefer to think you&#8217;re playing, and so I play with you.</p>
<p>Seriously, if you are really interested in the free Tantra group I have a sannyasin friend who in Germany organises something similar in a swinging club called &#8216;Fuck the Resort&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7529#comment-85076</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 16:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make too many assumptions, Veet.

If you&#039;ve experienced their work why not inform us how much it cost?That, after all, is key information, however attractive the publicity might be.

Cheaper abroad? But offset by travel expenses?

No idea at all re your mp3 query.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make too many assumptions, Veet.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve experienced their work why not inform us how much it cost?That, after all, is key information, however attractive the publicity might be.</p>
<p>Cheaper abroad? But offset by travel expenses?</p>
<p>No idea at all re your mp3 query.</p>
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