Comments on: An Ordinary Man ?

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sun, 21 Jan 2018 06:51:21 +0000

Somehow, I have not been interested in these colourful kinds of magic, so not inclined towards it.

Perhaps everything that exists in these realms is human creation.

For me, it’s better to spend my time on things I am inclined towards; these days I like to live in my own clean world, as what I am not interested is in a way garbage for me!

By: swamishanti

swamishanti — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:49:52 +0000

‘Black Magic’ is a western, Christian term that has been absorbed in the last couple of centuries by Indians as part of the Western influence.

It was Madame Blavatsky, who founded the Theosophical Society, who first coined the term ‘Left-hand Path’ and ‘Right-hand Path’.
She associated ‘Left-hand Path’ with tantrics who were said to be breaking Hindu societal taboos by having sexual intercourse in rituals, drinking alcohol and eating meat, living in cremation grounds and generally questioning taboos.

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 11:55:15 +0000

I think Tantra as a word has different connotations to different people & so it is the most misunderstood word.

As I understood from Osho’s discourses, maybe he is talking about transparent, colourless magic!

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 11:41:09 +0000

” ‘Tantra’ is a very familiar word for all Indians as lots of Indians use these so-called tantrics for some of their spiritual rituals.”

So according to this statement, I am not an Indian – well, I accept that!

Btw, it’s like saying all Indians are Bharatnatyam dancers!

By: Levina

Levina — Sat, 20 Jan 2018 07:04:24 +0000

Radha, pixels on a screen (movie), seen on another screen (computer) utters certain thoughts, that are seen and interpreted by another screen (thoughts, feelings) of this body-mind. Then these thoughts say “Is that all?? This is boring, I wanted to seduce you into really believing what Radha says, and instigate and remember all the wonderful experiences and feelings you had in the past when Osho was alive, I want to seduce you in believing that the past was much, much better than this moment. This moment is not for me, hardly noticeable, I cannot move in it, I disappear…Oh no, thanks God, I haven’t disappeared, I exist in pixels on a screen, and hopefully other thoughts are going to see me and are going to type on this screen lots of thoughts about these thoughts,” says thought…”What a thoughty thought”, says thought, “I could not have thought that, I could have such a thought about this thought, thought about this thought, thought about this thought, thought about this….”

By: swamishanti

swamishanti — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:44:58 +0000

There is some fear from Indians towards those Hindu ascetics who perform tantric rituals in cremation grounds but people also respect those babas and go to them for help.
“Black magic” does not necessarily have negative connotations in those circles, it is seen as a power that can be used to create problems for others or to help, heal or perform miracles. Indians fear those tantric sadhus as they are thought to have to be able to use black magic to harm others or create problems for them, but they also go to them to ask for help and healing.

Obviously, anyone who has any type of power can abuse it, even if they think they are trying to help people.

Those sadhus who are trying to use powers to harm others are obviously the less mature type.

The more mature tantrics would refrain from trying to scare others with the threat of black magic and only use any black magic or power to help others or perform miracles such as producing infinite chapatis, impossible foods out of pots to feed the masses.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 23:16:08 +0000

Thanks for the post, Lokesh. Involved some work and considerations done carefully.

By: kusum

kusum — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:31:28 +0000

‘Tantra’ is a very familiar word for all Indians as lots of Indians use these so-called tantrics for some of their spiritual rituals. Western women have different attitude towards sex as they are not looking for husbands but sex.

By: Prem

Prem — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:09:17 +0000

You are right. Most tantrics just want to give a spiritual edge to their sex life.

From my experience, Love is beyond sex, and sometimes you need to give sex a break in order to really flower in love. Ultimately, as love flowers, any interest in sex disappears.

Tantra easily takes you down into the mud of sexual obsession – and you can spiritualise it with beautiful words…but it still is too centred on the genitals.

Love has nothing to do with sex or genitals.

But if you repress sex, you will never experience Love. If you fall into the mud of sex obsession, you will never experience Love.

Tantra is good for beginners, but it has to be balanced with long periods of celibacy, a time to give sex a break so you can flower in Love.

Usually, Tantra attracts sex-obsessed people who want to spiritualise their sex drive.

By: Prem

Prem — Fri, 19 Jan 2018 15:58:14 +0000

Tantra master = organises meditation groups centered on sex.

Even in the times when I have been lucky enough to be close to him physically = I was close to Osho and you weren’t. Now pay me money for my wisdom.

Osho was an ocean of light and love = I am so profound, I only saw discarnate love and light when I looked at Osho.