For example, in your sannyas life: whatever you have done or not done, you have chosen. You paint the picture. There is no Bhagwan or Osho who has done anything.

You have chosen to become a sannyasin, you have chosen to do Dynamic – because you enjoyed painting it as picture of your life.

Somebody else has chosen different colours.

Nice metaphor. But we are all experienced painters. Every minute we choose this colour or that to paint our life.

1) There is a level of legal battle about material things (structural) where Shantam seems to have read more than most of us.
When the topic, as in this case, requires it, he, unlike the majority, generously shares on SN.

2) There is a level of extra-legal battle, regarding the biography or Shantam’s way of sharing the reasons for that legal battle.

If Shantam uses the legal battle to cover his personal problems it is a private problem but it is intellectually incorrect to use arguments of the second field type to delegitimise those of the first one, which are of public importance, if for you it matters what will happen to what we all have helped to build around Osho in Pune, material and spiritual.

Which is your idea of Sangha, Satyadeva?

Only successful people who possibly drink champagne with your money?
Do you like to know that they are happy about you, who do not bring them in the Court? Even a small complaint?

Yes, court action differs from just blaming, but it comes from the same basic source. The Will issue is really a red herring, just an excuse for his unhappiness to seize upon, as he’s convinced that only by resurrecting the past situation (impossible, of course – didn’t Osho declare at the start, “Know well the Gates will not be open forever!”? And he’s long gone anyway) he’ll somehow be ‘ok’.

Are you blaming that? If so, stop the buck there.

Talking about painting, as in art, when you have no experience of painting, and have only looked at a few paintings in a museum is not the same as talking about painting from the place of being an experienced painter.

You told Lokesh you had taken sannyas in 1975, yet apart from that remark I have no memory of you mentioning Osho, Bhagwan, any of the places that matter to us, meditation, other sannyasins, any experiences you’ve had as a sannyasin; and everybody does, to a greater or lesser degree, but you never do.”

Arpana, I do what comes to me. What does not come to me, I don’t do.

I did take sannyas 1978 in Pune. When and where did you take sannyas?

“matters to us” – Is the “us” the community of your 47 egos?

I said already that I have never been on the Ranch. And I have also never been a fan of Dynamic Meditation like you. Cleaning the toilets like you I have also never done in my sannyas life. In my whole sannyas life I did only worship for one day.

Are you the better sannyasin now?