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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81823</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I have answers but for those who are bit honest about their own inner world and are courageous enough to expose that. In my observation, unfortunately, SD, you are not, Lokesh is. Kavita is, Tan is not.&quot;

Shantam, you are the only person currently I know/have met in person on SN but sometimes I wonder if I would be able to encounter you otherwise as much as I can now; we both know &amp; take liberty with each other which is quite natural, I guess!

In the initial years of my internet/SN it was not very easy, the idea of sharing without having any personal connection/knowledge of the other person, but on the way I realised that it&#039;s ok to not know the person, many times it&#039;s better not have preconceived perceptions, it works better for both parties to share/respond! 

I guess one can enjoy more if one is less stuck-up, in case one needs to enjoy in the first place!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have answers but for those who are bit honest about their own inner world and are courageous enough to expose that. In my observation, unfortunately, SD, you are not, Lokesh is. Kavita is, Tan is not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shantam, you are the only person currently I know/have met in person on SN but sometimes I wonder if I would be able to encounter you otherwise as much as I can now; we both know &#038; take liberty with each other which is quite natural, I guess!</p>
<p>In the initial years of my internet/SN it was not very easy, the idea of sharing without having any personal connection/knowledge of the other person, but on the way I realised that it&#8217;s ok to not know the person, many times it&#8217;s better not have preconceived perceptions, it works better for both parties to share/respond! </p>
<p>I guess one can enjoy more if one is less stuck-up, in case one needs to enjoy in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shantam gabbled:
&quot;Tell me a single sentence where you or Arpana have exposed their thought process?&quot;

Even by your standards, Shantam, that&#039;s an exceptionally stupid thing to say. I reveal my thought processes here every time I post, but what you mean is, because what I say doesn&#039;t augment your self-importance you can delude yourself I don&#039;t. 

Every adjective you use to describe me and SD is a description of you. 

Tan and Kavita are worth a hundred of you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shantam gabbled:<br />
&#8220;Tell me a single sentence where you or Arpana have exposed their thought process?&#8221;</p>
<p>Even by your standards, Shantam, that&#8217;s an exceptionally stupid thing to say. I reveal my thought processes here every time I post, but what you mean is, because what I say doesn&#8217;t augment your self-importance you can delude yourself I don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Every adjective you use to describe me and SD is a description of you. </p>
<p>Tan and Kavita are worth a hundred of you.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81815</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, yes, the &quot;I have the answers - but you&#039;re not worthy of them&quot; trick! Clearly, you know you have no convincing answers, Shantam. Despite promising them two or three days ago. Or, you&#039;re so confused that when cornered, you hide behind convenient untruths you tell yourself; or you just think you surely must know the answers, despite not actually being able to &#039;find&#039; them. Whatever way, the usual self-serving, lying bullshine. 

The joke is, you think you&#039;re a sannyasin, a seeker of truth. Not only that, but an upholder of &#039;What Osho really wanted&#039;! 

As the catchphrase goes, &#039;you really couldn&#039;t make it up&#039;...You could, though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes, the &#8220;I have the answers &#8211; but you&#8217;re not worthy of them&#8221; trick! Clearly, you know you have no convincing answers, Shantam. Despite promising them two or three days ago. Or, you&#8217;re so confused that when cornered, you hide behind convenient untruths you tell yourself; or you just think you surely must know the answers, despite not actually being able to &#8216;find&#8217; them. Whatever way, the usual self-serving, lying bullshine. </p>
<p>The joke is, you think you&#8217;re a sannyasin, a seeker of truth. Not only that, but an upholder of &#8216;What Osho really wanted&#8217;! </p>
<p>As the catchphrase goes, &#8216;you really couldn&#8217;t make it up&#8217;&#8230;You could, though!</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81814</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most of the sannyasins are from Christian background and I am sure during their youth they must have confronted their families and friends about corruption in Church.&quot;

&quot;I am sure&quot; - there you go again, Shantam, making an assumption about something you know nothing about. Shows how little you know about where conventional religion is at in many western countries, especially since 1945. 

It wasn&#039;t so much a &#039;live&#039; issue, more a matter of total indifference. Growing up, for me and almost everyone I knew, it was already dead, irrelevant, hardly worth thinking about except as a source of laughter, satirical humour, its practitioners, with very few exceptions, were just so laughable. Likewise, its rituals.

As a young boy I was sent to &#039;Sunday School&#039; to be taught the Christian ways, but found it so deadly boring I eventually skipped going and went for bike rides instead. 

And I recall clearly perceiving the hypocrisy of my father, who, faced with the &#039;appalling&#039; fact that my older brother used to like a drink at the local pub on Sundays, used to declare that on Sundays one should either be in Church or studying at home - neither of which he did himself, of course! 

Whatever happened re &quot;Osho&#039;s Will&quot;, my sense is that, should the &#039;evil Westerners&#039; eventually be ousted, we can rely on you and the rest of the outraged Indian campaigners to create a place that would elicit a similar response to that of the post-war western generation to the Christian Church, ie an almost total lack of interest. I suggest that if you expect anything remotely like the restoration of the Pune ashram in its heyday you&#039;re going to be very disappointed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most of the sannyasins are from Christian background and I am sure during their youth they must have confronted their families and friends about corruption in Church.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I am sure&#8221; &#8211; there you go again, Shantam, making an assumption about something you know nothing about. Shows how little you know about where conventional religion is at in many western countries, especially since 1945. </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t so much a &#8216;live&#8217; issue, more a matter of total indifference. Growing up, for me and almost everyone I knew, it was already dead, irrelevant, hardly worth thinking about except as a source of laughter, satirical humour, its practitioners, with very few exceptions, were just so laughable. Likewise, its rituals.</p>
<p>As a young boy I was sent to &#8216;Sunday School&#8217; to be taught the Christian ways, but found it so deadly boring I eventually skipped going and went for bike rides instead. </p>
<p>And I recall clearly perceiving the hypocrisy of my father, who, faced with the &#8216;appalling&#8217; fact that my older brother used to like a drink at the local pub on Sundays, used to declare that on Sundays one should either be in Church or studying at home &#8211; neither of which he did himself, of course! </p>
<p>Whatever happened re &#8220;Osho&#8217;s Will&#8221;, my sense is that, should the &#8216;evil Westerners&#8217; eventually be ousted, we can rely on you and the rest of the outraged Indian campaigners to create a place that would elicit a similar response to that of the post-war western generation to the Christian Church, ie an almost total lack of interest. I suggest that if you expect anything remotely like the restoration of the Pune ashram in its heyday you&#8217;re going to be very disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81813</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have answers but for those who are bit honest about their own inner world and are courageous enough to expose that. In my observation, unfortunately, SD, you are not, Lokesh is. Kavita is, Tan is not. 

Tell me a single sentence where you or Arpana have exposed their thought process? Both of you are simply reactive, albeit you have quite a reformed persona. This makes me tired, it is not an inspiring way of dialogue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have answers but for those who are bit honest about their own inner world and are courageous enough to expose that. In my observation, unfortunately, SD, you are not, Lokesh is. Kavita is, Tan is not. </p>
<p>Tell me a single sentence where you or Arpana have exposed their thought process? Both of you are simply reactive, albeit you have quite a reformed persona. This makes me tired, it is not an inspiring way of dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81811</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 09:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course, Shantam. Most inconvenient to deal with questions for which you&#039;ve no adequate answers, which might reveal your foolishness if you attempt a reply. Dodgy politician stuff.

Amusing though, that you don&#039;t see how foolish you appear talking such self-important claptrap. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Shantam. Most inconvenient to deal with questions for which you&#8217;ve no adequate answers, which might reveal your foolishness if you attempt a reply. Dodgy politician stuff.</p>
<p>Amusing though, that you don&#8217;t see how foolish you appear talking such self-important claptrap. </p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81808</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 06:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sannyasnews, 
In the last paragraph of my above post I have written &quot;If it happens&quot;. The way Indian judicially is becoming proactive chances are more than 75%.

More than judicial matters, question is also why seekers of truth be reluctant to face the independent enquiry.

Most of the sannyasins are from Christian background and I am sure during their youth they must have confronted their families and friends about corruption in Church. Have not they faced similar situation in their own Church? So some fair and dignified protest is required or not?

River is in rivering or in the water tray in fridge?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sannyasnews,<br />
In the last paragraph of my above post I have written &#8220;If it happens&#8221;. The way Indian judicially is becoming proactive chances are more than 75%.</p>
<p>More than judicial matters, question is also why seekers of truth be reluctant to face the independent enquiry.</p>
<p>Most of the sannyasins are from Christian background and I am sure during their youth they must have confronted their families and friends about corruption in Church. Have not they faced similar situation in their own Church? So some fair and dignified protest is required or not?</p>
<p>River is in rivering or in the water tray in fridge?</p>
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		<title>By: sannyasnews</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81807</link>
		<dc:creator>sannyasnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems, SP, that you have not read our report that thoroughly, which is often the case.
The report says:
The Justices said that “We have to also hear the CBI’s arguments and views, since you (the petitioner) are seeking a probe by them. Issue notice to CBI,” the court said.

A CIA probe is being sought by Thakkar, but it has yet to be agreed as far as we can see. This hopefully will become clear on the 27th September.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems, SP, that you have not read our report that thoroughly, which is often the case.<br />
The report says:<br />
The Justices said that “We have to also hear the CBI’s arguments and views, since you (the petitioner) are seeking a probe by them. Issue notice to CBI,” the court said.</p>
<p>A CIA probe is being sought by Thakkar, but it has yet to be agreed as far as we can see. This hopefully will become clear on the 27th September.</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81805</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you have a mission you should simply ignore little men with big guns!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you have a mission you should simply ignore little men with big guns!</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/7119#comment-81803</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If it happens, I feel it is my responsibility to present myself as a witness, a witness who does not belong to any group but has the clear-cut view;&quot;

Nonsense, Shantam, you belong to the anti-Resort &quot;group&quot;, with a view that&#039;s anything but &quot;clear-cut&quot;. As SN readers have known for a number of years.

That you can believe the delusion you are merely an unbiased observer with no personal stake in the outcome is no surprise for anyone who&#039;s read your monumentally obsessive rants here. 

Neither is the self-importance (&quot;it is my responsibility to present myself as a witness&quot; etc.) pervading it all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it happens, I feel it is my responsibility to present myself as a witness, a witness who does not belong to any group but has the clear-cut view;&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonsense, Shantam, you belong to the anti-Resort &#8220;group&#8221;, with a view that&#8217;s anything but &#8220;clear-cut&#8221;. As SN readers have known for a number of years.</p>
<p>That you can believe the delusion you are merely an unbiased observer with no personal stake in the outcome is no surprise for anyone who&#8217;s read your monumentally obsessive rants here. </p>
<p>Neither is the self-importance (&#8220;it is my responsibility to present myself as a witness&#8221; etc.) pervading it all.</p>
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