Comments on: Meditation: The Key Defence against being a Consumer Attention Slave

By: sw. veet (francesco)

sw. veet (francesco) — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 12:07:22 +0000

An invitation to awareness, perhaps somewhat naive, which aroused many snobbish reactions.

Multinational corporations, that have an interest in finding algorithms in consumer behaviour, can only be happy with those who many years ago experienced a glorious free period from their stereotyped responses, which since then they claim to have transcended forever.

Ciao,

By: Bong

Bong — Mon, 04 Sep 2017 16:28:08 +0000

I like it. I recommend at least one year without a cellphone and three weeks of solitary meditation (Mystic Rose or whatnot) to kick things off.

By: satchit

satchit — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 15:06:47 +0000

Still discussing “egos”? I thought they had died with the orange clothes, somebody said.

Who spoke: “A total ego is egoless”? Funny.

By: Arpana

Arpana — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:42:33 +0000

Frank,
Yes, no arguing with that.

Get the impression Picasso was enormously egotistical, but he had actually developed his ”big ‘ead” because of all those years of hands-on work, along with the acclaim. Personally, I think he’s done some amazing work, and particularly admire his restless creativity and productivity for all those years. (He painted up until three days before he died at 96).

(I discovered ‘Lord of the Rings’ when I was thirteen, and f*****g hated it when the book became popular; and realised years later was because I had such a big head about having read it.

Further to that, a friend of mine nearly brained me when I told him I had read ‘Ulysses’, because he up until then believed only he had. Bit freaky at the time as well. Murderous glint in his eye).

By: frank

frank — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:24:26 +0000

Arps,
It`s probably better to have an ego about something that is verifiable, like carpentry, plumbing, playing guitar or sport, because having an ego about being spiritual depends on the most dubious of all consensus realities and is so easily faked (see religion/spirituality).

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 14:00:12 +0000

Either way it’s a slapstick. Perhaps accepting the disciple/master funda* is itself the beginning of the “I will be better”, which is the only way to justify one’s existence!

Irony is we realise all of this after there is no chance of any return!

*funda – sheath (Hindi)

By: satchit

satchit — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 13:30:11 +0000

Shantam, this is not meditation.

This is just a technique, a tool, to deal better with stress in the world of business and work.

Meditation, by its very definition, cannot be a means for some purpose. Ask Osho! There is only meditation for meditation’s sake.

By: Arpana

Arpana — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 13:13:30 +0000

Frank, (This is not a dig. Obviously, being me, it could be, but in this instance not. Cross my heart and hope to die).

Isn’t this ego as well?

Seems to me we just have to shrug and say it’s all ego, what the hell, stop worrying about it, otherwise you develop an ego about not having an ego; and get on with it.

MOD:
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By: frank

frank — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:56:29 +0000

As a result:`
Anyone who denies that should fire up the old bullshit detector big time.

Herein lies the mind-boggling mendacity that seems to go hand-in-hand with the so-called spiritual world.

The idea that the presence of a master stops the disciples from being egotistical in ever more complicated and roundabout ways seems somewhat unsupported by empirical evidence!

“My master is better than your master, my yoga is faster than your yoga, you have more ego than me, I am more mindless than you”,
etc etc.

Good entertainment, tho` in a slapstick/bananaskin type way.

By: frank

frank — Sun, 03 Sep 2017 12:44:01 +0000

Nobody has ever done meditation to become weaker!

Even if the aim is to be more humble, more surrendered, more egoless – there is always the idea that “I will be better.”