This ‘story’ of Bharti I find incomplete, he talks of a murder charge around the person who Osho had spoken to, but does not say whether the guy had in fact committed murder. Or been falsely arrested on a murder charge.

Also, I don’t like the Osho News headline on this article, “criminal turns upright man” – silly!

http://www.oshonews.com/2017/05/03/criminal-turns-upright-man/

I am glad in fact that you seem to acknowledge some of my points, and also acknowledge that you should have checked your facts about Pravasi’s imprisonment.

The wisdom to see the Pravasi confession about criminality is simply limited by society’s definitions of criminality comes with age.

Among those, I’ve read what Pravasi on this topic says about himself:
“I’m a criminal. I’m a fugitive, I’ve been for 40 years, but I’ve been true to myself and my friends. But I have a vision.”
and
“I mean we were criminals, but we were criminals having fun, people who got together and decided yes we are doing a job, we’re turning on the world, but we never hurt anyone”.

Then I crossed this information with those of different sources and made some conclusions, and only after finding the link of the documentary and having finished to see it I read in the closing credits of the 6-year prison period.

I may have written an inaccuracy but if this does not affect my overall reasoning (about how to contextualise the existential perspective of Pravasi) it does not seem to me enough negligent that you, Parmartha, apply Godwin’s law on me.

About this second post I subscribe what you say here:
“I think the way he eventually” handled “the prison was good and I would only hope I could do the same if I found myself in such a place.”

Then you say, “He was a sannyasin, that state is not just about what you might think about yourself, or anything else.”
Good, is not this the beauty of Osho’s world, its variety and richness?

As I said, for me the only ticket to be paid for stay on the boat, the lowest common multiple, is gratitude…but on this boat I’m not in charge about the tickets, to decide who can get on the boat and at what price, if with clothes or orange pills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOt3oQ_k008

Ciao,

VF

Just for the record, I was not a friend, as you assume, of Pravasi. I think he lived an adventurous life and I liked what I saw of him. I never shared his view that LSD could change the world.

He was a sannyasin, that state is not just about what you might think about yourself, or anything else. I posted this account of his time in prison because I think you or someone else on the previous string said that on wikipedia it said he had never served any time in prison.

I think the way he eventually ‘handled’ prison was good and I would only hope I could do the same if I found myself in such a place.

Also that self-important squirt, Subhuti, who is headlining an article about Pravasi on Osho News, says he only served three years in prison, whereas it was almost six.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLLPsGoBtF8&t=285s

https://youtu.be/6Ja1wrRAAm4

I’m not questioning your friendship with him, but it is not an argument in itself…and I would not swap the gratitude for a Master with indulgence for a friend.

Peace and love,

VF

P.S:
Not only Tolle and Joplin:
http://vumoo.li/videos/play/watch-the-sunshine-makers-91356
http://belhistory.weebly.com/nicholas-sand.html