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	<title>Comments on: How to Give Up Coffee?</title>
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		<title>By: Bong</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80163</link>
		<dc:creator>Bong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2017 13:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why are you following me? Not following just going in the same direction...good. Blessed are the peacemakers, they shall inherit...which direction?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you following me? Not following just going in the same direction&#8230;good. Blessed are the peacemakers, they shall inherit&#8230;which direction?</p>
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		<title>By: sw. veet (francesco)</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80140</link>
		<dc:creator>sw. veet (francesco)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 11:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Frank, 
Not just for you addictions are more familiar than Nirvana. I think it&#039;s a bit the same for everyone, from coffee to sex, from spaghetti carbonara to heroin (by Bayer).

Although they say there are more insidious addictions for which the saying goes: &quot;Once an addict, always an addict&quot;.

In my opinion, this is not the case for those of us who at the foot of the Master have internalized a bit of his sense of humour in deconstructing things, as the most powerful marketing targeting the human being: God.

I do not know many sannyasins who are back to the drug, but no one who has come back to church.

https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2014/08/30/once-an-addict-always-an-addict/

Ciao,

VF

P.S: 
As I have said at other times, by quoting Fromm there is &quot;freedom from&quot; and &quot;freedom for&quot;... Comparing nirvana to an addiction, as a metaphor, does not work, it is asymmetric.

In fact, usually one throws a stone when there is a diamond, not the opposite. However, if the nirvana is like an addiction, before going back to church my samsara (wandering) will have very different sympathies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hw1uVfeByg

(The band complains, maybe about the thermal state, some blasphemy ... mimicking the addicted ones, about the honey for the voice that is going to end)

&quot;I wander at night with lost souls
Yes of the family I am the rebel
You give me the soul and I&#039;ll send you to the stars
And paradise is a crazy lie
All life is a fat lie
Yup!
Hard life is a big deal, yes
But sometimes a transgression is a necessity
Whoever is good, for me it&#039;s bad!
And I&#039;m an animal and it is!
All history is a big lie
All the lifes, first mine
Ah, mamamia (mamma mia / oh mother, mine) el Diablo!
Ah, Ariba ariba el Diablo!
Ah, mamamia el Diablo!
666
Shoot the snake of the first apple, eh, el Diablo
That steals strength to who condemned him, eh, el Diablo
And with the music I change my skin, eh, el Diablo
But paradise is a crazy lie
All the lifes, first mine
Ah, mamamia el Diablo
Ah, ariba ariba el Diablo
Ah, (mamamamamama) mamamama mia el Diablo
Ah, his holiness el Diablo!
666&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Frank,<br />
Not just for you addictions are more familiar than Nirvana. I think it&#8217;s a bit the same for everyone, from coffee to sex, from spaghetti carbonara to heroin (by Bayer).</p>
<p>Although they say there are more insidious addictions for which the saying goes: &#8220;Once an addict, always an addict&#8221;.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this is not the case for those of us who at the foot of the Master have internalized a bit of his sense of humour in deconstructing things, as the most powerful marketing targeting the human being: God.</p>
<p>I do not know many sannyasins who are back to the drug, but no one who has come back to church.</p>
<p><a href="https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2014/08/30/once-an-addict-always-an-addict/" rel="nofollow">https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2014/08/30/once-an-addict-always-an-addict/</a></p>
<p>Ciao,</p>
<p>VF</p>
<p>P.S:<br />
As I have said at other times, by quoting Fromm there is &#8220;freedom from&#8221; and &#8220;freedom for&#8221;&#8230; Comparing nirvana to an addiction, as a metaphor, does not work, it is asymmetric.</p>
<p>In fact, usually one throws a stone when there is a diamond, not the opposite. However, if the nirvana is like an addiction, before going back to church my samsara (wandering) will have very different sympathies.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hw1uVfeByg" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hw1uVfeByg</a></p>
<p>(The band complains, maybe about the thermal state, some blasphemy &#8230; mimicking the addicted ones, about the honey for the voice that is going to end)</p>
<p>&#8220;I wander at night with lost souls<br />
Yes of the family I am the rebel<br />
You give me the soul and I&#8217;ll send you to the stars<br />
And paradise is a crazy lie<br />
All life is a fat lie<br />
Yup!<br />
Hard life is a big deal, yes<br />
But sometimes a transgression is a necessity<br />
Whoever is good, for me it&#8217;s bad!<br />
And I&#8217;m an animal and it is!<br />
All history is a big lie<br />
All the lifes, first mine<br />
Ah, mamamia (mamma mia / oh mother, mine) el Diablo!<br />
Ah, Ariba ariba el Diablo!<br />
Ah, mamamia el Diablo!<br />
666<br />
Shoot the snake of the first apple, eh, el Diablo<br />
That steals strength to who condemned him, eh, el Diablo<br />
And with the music I change my skin, eh, el Diablo<br />
But paradise is a crazy lie<br />
All the lifes, first mine<br />
Ah, mamamia el Diablo<br />
Ah, ariba ariba el Diablo<br />
Ah, (mamamamamama) mamamama mia el Diablo<br />
Ah, his holiness el Diablo!<br />
666&#8243;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80138</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2017 03:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This means we have to go beyond all! Ssshhhhh....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This means we have to go beyond all! Ssshhhhh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80137</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 15:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re &#039;Freedom is free from the need to be free`- apart from being rather a good line from a classic psychedelic 70s funk song, I would see it more in terms of if you are really free of something you don`t obsess with it. I am more familiar with addiction than Nirvana, so I could understand it in a more everyday way than as being about nirvana etc.

For example, people at AA and NA meetings talk endlessly about the things they are trying to stay off. Yet, surely,to be really free of it, it`s better not to  even have to talk about the stuff,let alone be tempted by it, isn`t it?

I suspect that the same may be true of nirvana, otherwise the enlightened ones would all be sitting around in a circle chatting away about samasara in an attempt not to relapse into it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8216;Freedom is free from the need to be free`- apart from being rather a good line from a classic psychedelic 70s funk song, I would see it more in terms of if you are really free of something you don`t obsess with it. I am more familiar with addiction than Nirvana, so I could understand it in a more everyday way than as being about nirvana etc.</p>
<p>For example, people at AA and NA meetings talk endlessly about the things they are trying to stay off. Yet, surely,to be really free of it, it`s better not to  even have to talk about the stuff,let alone be tempted by it, isn`t it?</p>
<p>I suspect that the same may be true of nirvana, otherwise the enlightened ones would all be sitting around in a circle chatting away about samasara in an attempt not to relapse into it!</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80136</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 10:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Me too, yet to come across someone who is Nirvanoed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too, yet to come across someone who is Nirvanoed!</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80135</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 10:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Books say, freedom from oneself is Nirvana. 

I don&#039;t know some living being who is so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books say, freedom from oneself is Nirvana. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know some living being who is so.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80134</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2017 04:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does this mean, freedom from any need is nirvana?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean, freedom from any need is nirvana?!</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80133</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 17:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Freedom is free from the need to be free).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Freedom is free from the need to be free).</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80132</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Free your mind and your ass will follow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free your mind and your ass will follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Kavita</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6848#comment-80129</link>
		<dc:creator>Kavita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2017 01:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Form your own cult !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Form your own cult !</p>
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