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		<title>By: mini kang</title>
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		<dc:creator>mini kang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ozen Rajneesh book ‘I to I’ may be very interesting to many here!

It is unique and very valuable in this thread.

http://ozenrajneesh.com/i-to-i/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ozen Rajneesh book ‘I to I’ may be very interesting to many here!</p>
<p>It is unique and very valuable in this thread.</p>
<p><a href="http://ozenrajneesh.com/i-to-i/" rel="nofollow">http://ozenrajneesh.com/i-to-i/</a></p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
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		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2017 13:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it sure is a good read. I dipped into it here and there. Osho talks a lot of his childhood.

Not sure Shantam types would be so fond of those books, though, although they had created “Rajneeshism” as a way of getting Osho status as a religious teacher so that he could stay in the USA.

Osho clearly states in those talks that he has no wish for any religion or tradition  to continue after he has left:

&quot;I am not going to leave a tradition behind me. 
While I am here, enjoy the moment. 

Celebrate the moment. 

Why be bothered for the future? 

And remember one thing: anybody who tries, after me, to make a tradition is my enemy, is not my friend and is not your friend either.&quot;

And 
&quot;You ask me, &quot;Is there any possibility of your religion not being reduced to a cult?&quot; Yes, there is a possibility, only one possibility - and that is that sannyasins go on becoming enlightened, so there is always a chain of enlightened people around.&quot; 

I am trying in every way so that you cannot make me...I go on doing everything that will prove that this was not a superman or a messiah or a tirthankara. I will not fit with any image. You cannot manage to make me extraordinary. Beware of the human tendency: one wants one&#039;s Master to be extraordinary. But this is what leads ultimately to the death of religion. 

You can save this living religion only so long as you go on meditating and you go on creating new flowers, new blossomings - so that you never become a desert; there is always some oasis. Just a single person amongst you is enough to keep the religion alive and prevent anybody from reducing it to a cult. 

But please don&#039;t call it my religion. 

It has nothing to do with me. 

It is simply religion. 

You have to understand, as totally as possible, that just a pure religion has more possibility of surviving, because then you don&#039;t put any boundaries on it.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it sure is a good read. I dipped into it here and there. Osho talks a lot of his childhood.</p>
<p>Not sure Shantam types would be so fond of those books, though, although they had created “Rajneeshism” as a way of getting Osho status as a religious teacher so that he could stay in the USA.</p>
<p>Osho clearly states in those talks that he has no wish for any religion or tradition  to continue after he has left:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am not going to leave a tradition behind me.<br />
While I am here, enjoy the moment. </p>
<p>Celebrate the moment. </p>
<p>Why be bothered for the future? </p>
<p>And remember one thing: anybody who tries, after me, to make a tradition is my enemy, is not my friend and is not your friend either.&#8221;</p>
<p>And<br />
&#8220;You ask me, &#8220;Is there any possibility of your religion not being reduced to a cult?&#8221; Yes, there is a possibility, only one possibility &#8211; and that is that sannyasins go on becoming enlightened, so there is always a chain of enlightened people around.&#8221; </p>
<p>I am trying in every way so that you cannot make me&#8230;I go on doing everything that will prove that this was not a superman or a messiah or a tirthankara. I will not fit with any image. You cannot manage to make me extraordinary. Beware of the human tendency: one wants one&#8217;s Master to be extraordinary. But this is what leads ultimately to the death of religion. </p>
<p>You can save this living religion only so long as you go on meditating and you go on creating new flowers, new blossomings &#8211; so that you never become a desert; there is always some oasis. Just a single person amongst you is enough to keep the religion alive and prevent anybody from reducing it to a cult. </p>
<p>But please don&#8217;t call it my religion. </p>
<p>It has nothing to do with me. </p>
<p>It is simply religion. </p>
<p>You have to understand, as totally as possible, that just a pure religion has more possibility of surviving, because then you don&#8217;t put any boundaries on it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Internal Family Systems

The IFS model has 5 basic assumptions:

    The human mind is subdivided into an unknown number of parts.
    Each person has a Self, and the Self should be the chief agent in coordinating the inner family.
    Parts engaging in non-extreme behavior are beneficial to the individual. There is no such thing as a “bad part.” Therapy aims to help parts discover their non-extreme roles. 
    Personal growth and development leads to the development of the internal family. Interactions between parts become more complex, allowing for systems theory to be applied to the internal system. Reorganization of the internal system may lead to rapid changes in the roles of parts. 
    Adjustments made to the internal system will result in changes to the external system and vice versa. Therefore, both the internal and external systems need to be adequately assessed.

There are three distinct types of parts in the IFS model:

    Managers are responsible for maintaining a functioning level of consciousness in daily life by warding off any unwanted or counterproductive interactions, emotions, or experiences resulting from external stimuli.
    Exiles are most often in a state of pain or trauma, which may result from childhood experiences. Managers and firefighters exile these parts and prevent them from reaching the conscious level so that proper functioning and preservation are maintained.
    Firefighters serve as a distraction to the mind when exiles break free from suppression. In order to protect the consciousness from feeling the pain of the exiles, firefighters prompt a person to act on impulse and engage in behaviors that are indulgent, addictive, and often times abusive. Firefighters may redirect attention to other areas such as sex, work, food, alcohol, or drugs.

Managers and firefighters play the role of Protectors, while exiles are parts that are protected.

http://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/internal-family-systems-therapy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internal Family Systems</p>
<p>The IFS model has 5 basic assumptions:</p>
<p>    The human mind is subdivided into an unknown number of parts.<br />
    Each person has a Self, and the Self should be the chief agent in coordinating the inner family.<br />
    Parts engaging in non-extreme behavior are beneficial to the individual. There is no such thing as a “bad part.” Therapy aims to help parts discover their non-extreme roles.<br />
    Personal growth and development leads to the development of the internal family. Interactions between parts become more complex, allowing for systems theory to be applied to the internal system. Reorganization of the internal system may lead to rapid changes in the roles of parts.<br />
    Adjustments made to the internal system will result in changes to the external system and vice versa. Therefore, both the internal and external systems need to be adequately assessed.</p>
<p>There are three distinct types of parts in the IFS model:</p>
<p>    Managers are responsible for maintaining a functioning level of consciousness in daily life by warding off any unwanted or counterproductive interactions, emotions, or experiences resulting from external stimuli.<br />
    Exiles are most often in a state of pain or trauma, which may result from childhood experiences. Managers and firefighters exile these parts and prevent them from reaching the conscious level so that proper functioning and preservation are maintained.<br />
    Firefighters serve as a distraction to the mind when exiles break free from suppression. In order to protect the consciousness from feeling the pain of the exiles, firefighters prompt a person to act on impulse and engage in behaviors that are indulgent, addictive, and often times abusive. Firefighters may redirect attention to other areas such as sex, work, food, alcohol, or drugs.</p>
<p>Managers and firefighters play the role of Protectors, while exiles are parts that are protected.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/internal-family-systems-therapy" rel="nofollow">http://www.goodtherapy.org/learn-about-therapy/types/internal-family-systems-therapy</a></p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6580#comment-78948</link>
		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Parmrtha,
I said this as compliment to the class of writing at this site and your openness to get discussion worthy material.

In my observation, oshonews is like Daily Mail, sannyasnews Independent!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parmrtha,<br />
I said this as compliment to the class of writing at this site and your openness to get discussion worthy material.</p>
<p>In my observation, oshonews is like Daily Mail, sannyasnews Independent!</p>
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		<title>By: shantam prem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shantam prem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[”When the disciple is ready the master appears.”
May be one should create a new version of usual stuff preached by Indian Masters:
&quot;When the master disappears disciples appear in China, Russia and India.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”When the disciple is ready the master appears.”<br />
May be one should create a new version of usual stuff preached by Indian Masters:<br />
&#8220;When the master disappears disciples appear in China, Russia and India.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: satchit</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6580#comment-78945</link>
		<dc:creator>satchit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@lokesh

Who thinks? The mind?
You have a mind? Then it is true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lokesh</p>
<p>Who thinks? The mind?<br />
You have a mind? Then it is true.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, SS, The Rajneesh Bible talks about the &#039;I&#039; subject. In these pages, Osho sums up all his work. It is worth reading them.

In my opinion, Osho goes beyond G (moustache master), well ahead..:) XXX]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, SS, The Rajneesh Bible talks about the &#8216;I&#8217; subject. In these pages, Osho sums up all his work. It is worth reading them.</p>
<p>In my opinion, Osho goes beyond G (moustache master), well ahead..:) XXX</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6580#comment-78942</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There`s a big magician somewhere creating endless ‘I’s having endless stories. I suspect that`s why everyone likes stories, literature and gossip etc.&quot;


Yes, Frank, and this magician has produced a universe full of floating balls and galaxies, and this here biosphere of activity, that we call life. 
Oceans , mountains and varied landscapes, and lots of interesting animals and creatures  that roam and eat and fuck , and fight each other.
Somehow fits together with natures `balance`. 
Humans - whats going on there? 
Different bots - lots of activity in the neurons and electro magnetic pulses, has enabled these creatures to become intelligent enough to compose stories and literature like you say.

They also have a penchant for creating beats and music and the capacity for creativity  is quite staggering.

But this `magician`- or is it a `dreamer` - this Grand `guvnor` - he has made these complex brain designs but has left out a general  heart capacity amongst the species - is this intentional? 
Thousands of years of road-building and wars? 
Madame Blatvatksy wrote about a peacefull culture of non-violent meditators, the lengend of `Mu`, that was submerged under the great flood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There`s a big magician somewhere creating endless ‘I’s having endless stories. I suspect that`s why everyone likes stories, literature and gossip etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Frank, and this magician has produced a universe full of floating balls and galaxies, and this here biosphere of activity, that we call life.<br />
Oceans , mountains and varied landscapes, and lots of interesting animals and creatures  that roam and eat and fuck , and fight each other.<br />
Somehow fits together with natures `balance`.<br />
Humans &#8211; whats going on there?<br />
Different bots &#8211; lots of activity in the neurons and electro magnetic pulses, has enabled these creatures to become intelligent enough to compose stories and literature like you say.</p>
<p>They also have a penchant for creating beats and music and the capacity for creativity  is quite staggering.</p>
<p>But this `magician`- or is it a `dreamer` &#8211; this Grand `guvnor` &#8211; he has made these complex brain designs but has left out a general  heart capacity amongst the species &#8211; is this intentional?<br />
Thousands of years of road-building and wars?<br />
Madame Blatvatksy wrote about a peacefull culture of non-violent meditators, the lengend of `Mu`, that was submerged under the great flood.</p>
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		<title>By: kusum</title>
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		<dc:creator>kusum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Illusions...illusions...:)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illusions&#8230;illusions&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/6580#comment-78940</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interestingly enough, just a few days ago , before this artlice from Lokesh came up I happened to be looking through `the Rajneesh Bible` ,whilst sitting on the  toilet one day,( which is now retitled as &quot;From Ignorance to Innocence&quot;,) and found a delightfull piece where Osho was talking about the different `personalities` or parts of the mind that one can become aware of , he also mentions Gurdgieff  of course , who seemed to focus on awareness.



Osho says;

&quot;Just watch it; just watching it is such a great joy, such a great drama that one need not go to any movie. You can simply close your eyes and see the movie that continues there, with so many actors and so many actresses and everything is there that is needed -- raw footage, unedited....



You have to drop all these personalities like clothes and you have to come to your utter nudity.

And from there is the beginning.

And then the second thing is very simple. The whole problem is with the first thing; the second thing is very simple. When personalities are gone, the crowd has left you, you are alone. Close your eyes, you will see who you are -- because there is nobody else. There is only awareness of immense silence, of no object.&quot;

&quot;In aloneness, suddenly out of nowhere, comes the fragrance called enlightenment. You become illuminated; for the first time full of light, all darkness dispersed.&quot;

The night is over, the sunrise has happened -- and a sunrise that is never going to become a sunset.
OSHO: From Ignorance to Innocence, Chapter 13]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, just a few days ago , before this artlice from Lokesh came up I happened to be looking through `the Rajneesh Bible` ,whilst sitting on the  toilet one day,( which is now retitled as &#8220;From Ignorance to Innocence&#8221;,) and found a delightfull piece where Osho was talking about the different `personalities` or parts of the mind that one can become aware of , he also mentions Gurdgieff  of course , who seemed to focus on awareness.</p>
<p>Osho says;</p>
<p>&#8220;Just watch it; just watching it is such a great joy, such a great drama that one need not go to any movie. You can simply close your eyes and see the movie that continues there, with so many actors and so many actresses and everything is there that is needed &#8212; raw footage, unedited&#8230;.</p>
<p>You have to drop all these personalities like clothes and you have to come to your utter nudity.</p>
<p>And from there is the beginning.</p>
<p>And then the second thing is very simple. The whole problem is with the first thing; the second thing is very simple. When personalities are gone, the crowd has left you, you are alone. Close your eyes, you will see who you are &#8212; because there is nobody else. There is only awareness of immense silence, of no object.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;In aloneness, suddenly out of nowhere, comes the fragrance called enlightenment. You become illuminated; for the first time full of light, all darkness dispersed.&#8221;</p>
<p>The night is over, the sunrise has happened &#8212; and a sunrise that is never going to become a sunset.<br />
OSHO: From Ignorance to Innocence, Chapter 13</p>
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