Comments on: What did you Learn when “travelling” with Osho ?

By: satyadeva

satyadeva — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:06:15 +0000

You might be dreaming of recreating something that has had its day, Shantam. It may well be that the home of “alternative spirituality” (as you call it) is no longer India, but beginning to be spread over a number of other countries, via sannyasins and fellow-travellers and other teachers, other ways.

And if such a dream is a “thousand times” more important to you than “enlightenment” (aka the inner search for the truth of your being) then I suggest you have your priorities upside down. (No big surprise there, of course)….

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:25:34 +0000

Madhu,
It was more to clear one point to use the adjective ‘consumer’. You are a disciple and devotee of that great master who was ridiculed by the world around. I have immense love for all those who dared to trust a master with new vision.

When i came to commune, it was a jump from the world of books to world of another kind of reality. I was inspired by people like you who left the West to be in India.

As an Indian, it is still my deepest wish how I can give my country to thousands of global seekers of alternative spirituality. Only Pune has that potential as ruins and foundation still exists. This wish is thousand times stronger than Enlightenment.

By: swamishanti

swamishanti — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:29:05 +0000

I think Osho would have made an excellent QC, and wouldn’t mind him representing me in court anytime.

Just because he was able to make such a convincing argument, for or against, on sometimes totally contradictory points.

Reading from that ‘Osho Source Book`, we hear that the young Osho, or Rajneesh as he was then known, made quite an outstanding and convincing argument for his final oral xamination at Sagar university, and when asked by the examiner to explain the major differences between Eastern and Western philosphies, he chose to argue that in effect that there is essentially no difference between Eastern and Western philosophy.

(Of course, it would have been easier for him to highlight the major differences between Eastern and Western modes of thinking).

Apparently, he also deliberately chose to present his argument to an examiner that was known to give low marks, yet still managed to score ninety out of a hundred (not bad for a young man whose mind had been totally blown).

After graduating from uni, the young Rajneesh was also awarded a gold medal, which he decided to throw down a well.

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:13:04 +0000

To talk about human side of Osho is no good for religious business. It is also avoided by those who don’t want to create religion out of him.

In my heart, O is not a saviour or messiah but a socio-spiritual mystic who created a global hub for seekers to meet and meditate.

My reverence for Him is for his product(s).

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:26:53 +0000

Shantam enquires, ‘Lokesh, if there is any kind of court case, would you trust Osho to retain him as your QC?’
Eham….e r….no. I cannot imagine Osho in such a scenario. If I try to imagine it the first thing that comes to mind is that he was too long winded. He was also not very good at judging a person’s character.

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:24:10 +0000

Lokesh, if there is any kind of court case, would you trust Osho to retain him as your QC?

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:57:16 +0000

Shatam declares, “Maybe I fight my case myself.”

Probably a good idea seeing as how he will definitely lose the case and only losers win in this game.

By: madhu dagmar frantzen

madhu dagmar frantzen — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:04:31 +0000

“Crazy, uh?” (Simond)

No, Simond, not crazy.
Very beautiful.

By: simond

simond — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 09:04:47 +0000

Madhu,

The website is open to all, sannyasins and friends, ex-sannyasins and any others who wish to contribute, including average Joes, and those whose are interested in Osho.

Sometimes I’m enthralled, others a little bored. And like you, I seem to have some extra time to indulge my passion for discovery and exploration online. Crazy, uh?

By: madhu dagmar frantzen

madhu dagmar frantzen — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:18:33 +0000

“No wonder, consumers like you have no know-how how to reconstruct the magic empire again.” ( Shantam)

You are partly right here, Shantam.

Neither I have been nor am I interested in constructing or reconstructing an “empire”; the “magic”, if I take your word, has been, as I said it, with:
“For me, this was possible, to allow it, as love was feelable – neither as a pornographic exercise nor that kind of love of small families.”

And I am not a “consumer”, nor have I been in that context.

Madhu