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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 18:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A series of 3, Shanti:
Osho Upanishad. Beyond Enlightemment and Sermons in Stones. 

One book really. A cross between discourse and darshan diary. (The audience was small. Same as the discourses given in Uruguay and Nepal).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A series of 3, Shanti:<br />
Osho Upanishad. Beyond Enlightemment and Sermons in Stones. </p>
<p>One book really. A cross between discourse and darshan diary. (The audience was small. Same as the discourses given in Uruguay and Nepal).</p>
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		<title>By: madhu dagmar frantzen</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73866</link>
		<dc:creator>madhu dagmar frantzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Frank, I am practising every day; not the least while continuing to respond in this UK SN Chat, when being judged by people who don´t know me personally and probably would avoid contact (if that would be possible).

The reason I mentioned this woman was that her approach to´forgiveness´ was neither unbearingly romantic nor a kind of religious priesthood kind of blackmail, and the latter is so often the case.

Sucess? Well, I don´t know.

I just came to know that such understanding is creating space for life energy, which loves to express while on the other hand, life energy is shrinking when being shut down -  for example, by contempt of others or heavy ironical or even sadistic approaches.

So it&#039;s a very practical &#039;device&#039; and has nothing to do with a ´preacher man&#039; - or woman.

Btw, I could even imagine you would have liked her being her statement...few weeks ago...

Madhu]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Frank, I am practising every day; not the least while continuing to respond in this UK SN Chat, when being judged by people who don´t know me personally and probably would avoid contact (if that would be possible).</p>
<p>The reason I mentioned this woman was that her approach to´forgiveness´ was neither unbearingly romantic nor a kind of religious priesthood kind of blackmail, and the latter is so often the case.</p>
<p>Sucess? Well, I don´t know.</p>
<p>I just came to know that such understanding is creating space for life energy, which loves to express while on the other hand, life energy is shrinking when being shut down &#8211;  for example, by contempt of others or heavy ironical or even sadistic approaches.</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a very practical &#8216;device&#8217; and has nothing to do with a ´preacher man&#8217; &#8211; or woman.</p>
<p>Btw, I could even imagine you would have liked her being her statement&#8230;few weeks ago&#8230;</p>
<p>Madhu</p>
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		<title>By: swamishanti</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73864</link>
		<dc:creator>swamishanti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It`s from the Osho Upanishad, isn`t it? Another series of discourses in Bombay. 

I was also reading that one recently. Gunnakar thought that he was enlightened when he went to Germany, but whenever he came back to see Osho he would lose it again. But he recognised this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It`s from the Osho Upanishad, isn`t it? Another series of discourses in Bombay. </p>
<p>I was also reading that one recently. Gunnakar thought that he was enlightened when he went to Germany, but whenever he came back to see Osho he would lose it again. But he recognised this.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73863</link>
		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Madhu,
Good for you.
I hope you have some success putting it into practice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madhu,<br />
Good for you.<br />
I hope you have some success putting it into practice.</p>
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		<title>By: anand yogi</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73862</link>
		<dc:creator>anand yogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The absurd red-bottomed baboons again spout their worthless opinions of pure spiritual ignorance from their egos and their minds which are nothing but mind!

As the mighty sages of the  Upanishads said: &quot;The mind of a baboon will remain the mind of a baboon even if he starts to speak about enlightenment!&quot;

Enlightenment exists, and for millenia the sages of mighty East have done everything neccesary to achieve it whilst white-skinned baboons like those here on Sannyasnews were simply mind-fucking, philosophising and psycho-analising each other, glorifying homosexuality, spouting liberal-lefty nonsense, allowing women out of the kitchen in depraved clothing and bringing about Kali yuga!


Parmartha speaks nonsense!
There is no question of divisiveness!
Either you are enlightened or you are not! 

And those who remain egotistically attached to their egos and deny the existence of enlightenment simply remain in the mud of excrement, whilst those blessed ones such as myself, Swami Bhorat and Swami Bodhi Heeren float past completely above it all, like lotuses!

Yahoo!
Hari Om!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The absurd red-bottomed baboons again spout their worthless opinions of pure spiritual ignorance from their egos and their minds which are nothing but mind!</p>
<p>As the mighty sages of the  Upanishads said: &#8220;The mind of a baboon will remain the mind of a baboon even if he starts to speak about enlightenment!&#8221;</p>
<p>Enlightenment exists, and for millenia the sages of mighty East have done everything neccesary to achieve it whilst white-skinned baboons like those here on Sannyasnews were simply mind-fucking, philosophising and psycho-analising each other, glorifying homosexuality, spouting liberal-lefty nonsense, allowing women out of the kitchen in depraved clothing and bringing about Kali yuga!</p>
<p>Parmartha speaks nonsense!<br />
There is no question of divisiveness!<br />
Either you are enlightened or you are not! </p>
<p>And those who remain egotistically attached to their egos and deny the existence of enlightenment simply remain in the mud of excrement, whilst those blessed ones such as myself, Swami Bhorat and Swami Bodhi Heeren float past completely above it all, like lotuses!</p>
<p>Yahoo!<br />
Hari Om!</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73860</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dynamic, or after-dynamic, is amazing indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dynamic, or after-dynamic, is amazing indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: satyadeva</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73859</link>
		<dc:creator>satyadeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enlightenment was certainly never any part of why I got into it, it was simply down to a mixture of body-mind well-being, never having felt better in my life, thanks to dynamic meditation (etc.), which was more than just  a &#039;new beginning&#039;, it was a sort of &#039;rebirth&#039;, that I wanted to continue (foolishly, in retrospect), imagining the rest of my life would be similar, plus enjoying Bhagwan&#039;s recorded talks and one or two books, finding them inspirational and just &#039;right&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enlightenment was certainly never any part of why I got into it, it was simply down to a mixture of body-mind well-being, never having felt better in my life, thanks to dynamic meditation (etc.), which was more than just  a &#8216;new beginning&#8217;, it was a sort of &#8216;rebirth&#8217;, that I wanted to continue (foolishly, in retrospect), imagining the rest of my life would be similar, plus enjoying Bhagwan&#8217;s recorded talks and one or two books, finding them inspirational and just &#8216;right&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Arpana</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73858</link>
		<dc:creator>Arpana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you think about it, everyone comes to Sannyas from a culture of being trained by threats of punishment, promise of reward, and &#039;Enlightenment&#039; is the ultimate reward for making an effort and doing well. 

A great big giant carrot.

I never think about enlightenment any more, unless the notion is mentioned here; but in retrospect I saw enlightenment as a way of escape from how life was, a place where I couldn&#039;t be touched any more by the vagaries of human life. and as I have come to take the vagaries of living in my stride I&#039;m just not looking for a way out anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think about it, everyone comes to Sannyas from a culture of being trained by threats of punishment, promise of reward, and &#8216;Enlightenment&#8217; is the ultimate reward for making an effort and doing well. </p>
<p>A great big giant carrot.</p>
<p>I never think about enlightenment any more, unless the notion is mentioned here; but in retrospect I saw enlightenment as a way of escape from how life was, a place where I couldn&#8217;t be touched any more by the vagaries of human life. and as I have come to take the vagaries of living in my stride I&#8217;m just not looking for a way out anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Parmartha</title>
		<link>https://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/5882#comment-73857</link>
		<dc:creator>Parmartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enlightened, unenlightened and beyond enlightenment... can lead to a sort of divisive consciousness.  

I prefer to take the view that we are all human beings, and all are capable of mistakes, and also of putting them right. 

Those who are so confident or self- ighteous in their certainty that they &quot;know&quot; are guilty of fanaticism, whether in religion or politics, and this is the greatest danger in human beings. In that way such people basically &#039;exclude&#039; themselves from being human.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enlightened, unenlightened and beyond enlightenment&#8230; can lead to a sort of divisive consciousness.  </p>
<p>I prefer to take the view that we are all human beings, and all are capable of mistakes, and also of putting them right. </p>
<p>Those who are so confident or self- ighteous in their certainty that they &#8220;know&#8221; are guilty of fanaticism, whether in religion or politics, and this is the greatest danger in human beings. In that way such people basically &#8216;exclude&#8217; themselves from being human.</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely.
With his overbearing Jewish mother writing a book slagging him off it was certainly the ultimate New Age version of:
&quot;He`s not the Messiah, he`s a very naughty boy!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely.<br />
With his overbearing Jewish mother writing a book slagging him off it was certainly the ultimate New Age version of:<br />
&#8220;He`s not the Messiah, he`s a very naughty boy!&#8221;</p>
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