Comments on: Osho and Gandhi – an Early Example

By: prem martyn

prem martyn — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:06:31 +0000

Hiyall…
been travelling and unravelling …been also to Palma in Majorca connecting with Osho friends …where there’s a new young and inviting Osho community project taking off …its a not -for- profit sharing and living together new venture ….in a rustic stone finca/farm in stunning landscape with views of mountainous Majorca and that mediterranean sound of crickets ( no ball , lbw , rubbing red leather balls along the crease etc)…
I had a lovely time with friends two former Ko Hsuannee students Ma Kanika and Ma Charu at their home in enchanting Palma. Total revisit for me of my connections through welcome friendship dissolving the dry run of these last years of Osho networking. Its fantastic to tell stories and gather your own shared insights amongst friends without any luminous imposed agenda and hilarious too. Ko Hsuan was very much like that, but I was privileged to be amongst life-long combatants who enjoyed a good ruck without breakages. I’m privileged to say that the kids took one long look at me and knew exactly what they were not going to do. I perfectly fulfilled their expectations of a teacher !
Its opening its doors on the 1st Sept and their website is up on 1st July… In the meantime here’s their facebook for your Q’s and A’s https://www.facebook.com/dimamallorca?pnref=story

Mallorca/ Palma really is very old and serene .. not the tourist nightmare I imagined.

By: madhu dagmar frantzen

madhu dagmar frantzen — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:19:26 +0000

“The most enlightened person I know is Chung, my other siamese cat. He says stay with the I Am and drop all this enlightenement number and that way you will come to realize that you will not recognize an enlightened human being until you are enlightened, by which time you will not be concerned with such cat shit.” / Lokesh

Having had a bit of a hang in and – over about your yesterday ´s evening contribution , Lokesh (5 June, 2015 at 6:08 pm), which I couldn´t deny either ,
yet did put my mind in a trauma carousel…
Today´s morning, to share with us all your insights is simply delicious and gives a really good treat.

You know ?— in 1983, the Dalai Lama had been invited in Munich or was it in Frankfurt ? where was my main home base at that time. Anyway -:
To meet Him, we all had assembled in a huge church being in full and (over-)existed expectation , of Him delivering a ´holy´speech. but what He did is talking endlessly about the cat (a simple one, no siam, just a house-cat he had met at His host´s place.
Soon, the huge church space with a little more than a thousand visitors was filled with ripples of laughter and warmed by smiles of the attendance;
while His glance to embrace the audience was as awake and as deep that anybody felt , like as touched by a caressing hand.
And even all these angles being painted on the walls centuries ago seemed to be alive entities.
He seemed to love us little bunch of ´orange Osho people in a corner –
and a Namaste´went from here-to-here.

Yes, there are moments , which fall out of time, and in a miraculous way, you reminded me on THIS.

Namaste´, Lokesh
and my special greetings for Tiddles and Chung !

Madhu

By: simond

simond — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 11:00:43 +0000

I’m enlightened

By: Lokesh

Lokesh — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 07:44:16 +0000

Maitreya was an old pal of mine. He did have a powerful meditative vibe last time we met, but enlightened….I doubt that very mucho. Tyohar I have met a few times and he is no more enlightened than Tiddles, my amazing talking siamese cat. Most of the more enlightened people I am aquainted with are pretty quiet people who never talk in terms of enlightened or not. Met a wonderful doctor in Scotland 30 years ago and he was pretty enlightened, as was a charming doctor I met in Rishikesh. He ran a free clinic for the poor. The most enlightened person I know is Chung, my other siamese cat. He says stay with the I Am and drop all this enlightenement number and that way you will come to realize that you will not recognize an enlightened human being until you are enlightened, by which time you will not be concerned with such cat shit. He says ‘meeeeow’ to all the readers on SN.

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:33:54 +0000

Parmartha , frankly I have met too many Indian Mas & Swamis of this quality , it is hard to make a list and also I don’t consider myself qualified to announce it publically .

By: Kavita

Kavita — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:27:14 +0000

”This example of Guru Nanak is beautiful but 100% unfitting in Osho’s context.”

Btw it was not meant in Osho’s context , Shantam but in your context it fits 100% .

I Swami Iqbal Shantam = ISIS of Oshoism

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 06:03:43 +0000

Many are silent and not “teachers” or “Masters” but driving taxis. You would I hope recognise them if you ever take the right cab.
Most commentators say there are a good few public figures (around 50) in India who were Osho sannyasins who are enlightened. I dont know, it is not my sub-continent. Kavita may be able to comment.
I met and sat with New Zealand Mikaire, and also from New Zealand, Maitreya. The first no longer teaches, except to a small number of inner disciples, and Maitreya is deceased. They were both enlightened in my book.
Those I trust, who have been to see Osho sannaysin, Tyohar, in his Costa Rican commune, also consider he is the real deal.
None of the people you list to try and tag me some bait are enlightened in my view, though I am acquainted with them all.

By: Parmartha

Parmartha — Sat, 06 Jun 2015 05:52:11 +0000

You seem totally preoccupied by the temporal organisation aorund Osho and condemning it, that is what I see.
Your total lack of interest in his spiritual legacy is clear by you saying that you “have no interest” in any body’s enlightenment…. …
But that was Osho’s whole real work, to get individuals to be totally free. How can you not be interested in that?

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Fri, 05 Jun 2015 20:40:36 +0000

200 Enlightend people in osho’s stream…
Aha!

I hope few people don’t get heart attack to see Shantam in the list too!

By: shantam prem

shantam prem — Fri, 05 Jun 2015 20:11:41 +0000

“Dont forget that Osho said it only needs 200 enlightened beings in his stream, and the whole world can be changed.”

Was Osho repeating the above statement everyyear?

Any way Parmartha, you can share the names of two three such great guys and girls. I don’t mind if it is you in your eyes or Lokesh or Arpana, Satyadeva or Alan Lüwe, Somendra or Rajan, Devageet or Veena, Shunyo or Maneesha…