” “Kranti was married at a very young age, but unfortunately her husband died just one year after the marriage.” (Joshi, 1982, p. 49).

Ma Yoga Kranti was the elder sister of Arvind Kumar Jain and left her body on 22.04.2006. Following her death, a cd for private circulation (not for sale) was published by Chirantan Brahmachari (Kabeer): “In Loving Memory of Smt. Kranti Chirantan Brahmachari (Ma Yog Kranti).”

A Discourse by OSHO on Mahavir Sutra (Jaraa-Mrityu). A profile of Swami Krishna Kabeer is presented in ‘Sannyas’, 1972:2, p. 46.”

Does any SN reader know Krishna Kabeer? his story might well be interesting. One SN contact says he is still alive.

And yet…how often in daily life do we get the chance to so swiftly peel away external ‘niceties’ and find what lies behind the façade? At least here we get a chance to examine our and others’ beliefs and values, and their origins, ie those elements that largely determine how we see the world, ourselves, others, and even, ‘life itself’…

Sometimes it’s quite shocking to see others’ (and even our own) relative, ie person-al, self-ish, so-called ‘truths’. And how doggedly we hold on to them, like ‘grim death’…

But it’s still good that such a place as this exists, whatever levels of ignorance and stupidity we expose here. As a few ‘jewels’ now and again emerge from the mire, perhaps occasionally greater understanding, or even, compassion (for ourselves and others)?

Understandable, Tan-ia.

Madhu

Use your common sense. Quoting someone does not by any means imply that person is one’s ‘master’, ‘teacher’, or anything other than someone who’s said something worthwhile.

So instead of trying to score a cheap point, why not look into the statement and see if there’s any truth in it, anything worth remembering for personal practical use?

Unless, of course, you suffer from ‘master-phobia’, or, ‘Truthophobia’…

Or already know it all….

In any case, Osho with his relatives. Second from left is Kranti.

Satyadeva,

It is so more than obvious that, while imagining being
“right on other one’s cases”, as you put it,
we are right sitting in and on our own, isn´t it?

Looking at a web-chat like this one these days, ever again, even though when two buddies are stuck into each other, occupying all the space with their contempt for each other, reminds me especially on the following lines of the given topic issue:

“No faith is ever harmed by irreligious people outside its folds so much, as by people within it.”

It´s the deterioration issue, Satyadeva, you quite often liked to mention, and rightly so.

And for good reasons, I presume, as we are all part of it and have ever been and will ever be, if that kind of stuff is happening. And a contemporary (?) Sannyas website is a good example for it, as we also can explore it in any apparently much bigger stuff.

It´s a painful experience, isn´t it?
Also, when just being a watcher, or pondering about, to just escape and look for better places and so on and so forth, quite often – when escaping – to find same…same…

It´s delusion, I feel, to imagine we could in a virtual chat area of printed bits and bytes, we could copy the ‘real thing´, to sit and feel and exchange with each other, the way meditators in a sangha do, or better said, let it happen.

Take the invitation for a meeting. Words rarely connect, words may connect if a mystic uses words, a poet, a songwriter.

These days, Osho News reminds of our old sons: Nothing is said…nothing is heard, yet the heart is singing…

Call it romantic rubbish as some like to do, but even if once experienced such Peace in all its diversity of forms, we get hooked to find that inner space and place again, don’t we? And also would like to share it with others, wouldn’t we?

The best, maybe, that can happen on a website like this is to get reminders
of experiences we have had, shared, and know of inside. One of these reminders in this topic, issue has been for me:

“…better to call them faiths as we have done so far — are in opposition to one another, only when viewed as separate groups; but the same faiths, if they are understood to be the diverse ways of self-realisation, are found to he paths converging towards the same truth.”

A beautiful dream, that we could share such an understanding. And I know we did.

So different the expressions of an apparent loss, and I would like to say, the loss is a delusion too; that´s the good side of seeing through a loss.

Good morning, Everybody.

Madhu

Yes indeed, Shantam; as I said earlier, I’m right on your case, watching you most carefully….